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right after the election for violent action in washington to block joe biden from becoming president. so rhodes is accused of seditious conspiracy planning with ten other members of the oath keepers to carry out acts of violence to stop congress from formally counting the electoral vote. as early as just two days after the election, he began messaging his leadership team using an encrypted app. he wrote we aren't getting through this without a civil war and then on january 6th, as the rioters were breaking through the police lines, the government says that rhodes messaged his leadership reminding them that the nation's founders stormed the governor's mansion in massachusetts. and then one other thing that's new in this is the hours after the riot, the government says he met with other ott keepers to plan further violence and that in the following weeksen spent more than $17,000 buying weapons and ammunition.
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>> let's hear the response to these charges from a reside owe show yesterday. >> i don't do illegal activities. i know where the lines are. >> according to this indictment, he did not go into the building so he was not charged with destruction of government property or press passing a as some of the lesser characters were. but this conspiracy that's alleged with all of this detail is extraordinary. >> if the allegations are true and can be proved, then he most certainly crossed the line and did not stay on the legal side of the law. i think he is maintained he did not enter the building and, therefore, he's not guilty of any crimes. but this charge does not require anyone to enter the building. it charges conspiracy, the elements of that are to degree with another person to oppose by force the execution of the laws.
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this this case, in the government's transition of presidential power, which is really a jaw-dropping charge, except for the fact that we all watched it unfold before our eyes. another thing that's significant here is these charges aren't just about january 6th. this is a plot that began well before january 6th. it played out on that day and continued to plan to attack beyond up to january 20th when we had the inauguration. and continued to stockpile weapons for that purpose. there was a reference in these very detailed text messages that are detailed in the indictment about following the playbook that was done in serbia, where a group of citizens did effectively and successfully overturn an election. and so that seems to be the plot here. of course, if these folks are charged, the question is who else is out there who might also be charged with participating in this planning. >> in that indictment, they had detailed communications that had
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come from an encrypted app. so do we think that they had just cracked that or do we think they have some inside source inside the oath keepers? >> i don't think they cracked it. i don't think encrypted apps can be cracked. when you want to get text messages, you can use a search warrant to get those kinds of things. so that's how it's done. but when it's encrypted, even the service provider can't produce that. so they are getting it from end users. they are getting the phones of individuals who were receiving those messages. and that could come in one of two ways. either some of the lower level defendants who have been prosecuted, the government may have obtained their phones and search the contents of their phones, or it maybe that people are cooperating. as part of that, they are producing phones. >> it's all so fascinating. and also disturbing. the antidefamation league has
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detailed analysis of the oath keepers. tell us about their background one of the things so shocking that very day was seeing from these white separatists, from these antisemimites the confederate flag for the first time being carried through the capitol. it didn't even happen during the civil war. and also the t-shirt, which had a logo signifying 6 million wasn't enough. >> the oath keepers are particularly frightening group that they have been tracking for years. they are a large but loosely organized collection of violent government extremists. they are part of the armed militia movement. the leader who was arrested is a former pair trooper in a yale law graduate. he tries to be careful to say we're not part of the movement, but they most absolutely are.
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they believe that the u.s. government has been taken over by a shadowy kabul, if you will, and trying to strip american citizens of our rights. but what makes the oath keepers very concerning is they aggressively recruit active and former law enforcement, military, and first responders. not just in the last few months. they have been preparing for an insurrection or a civil war for years. since they were founded in 2009. and what collecting weapons and running drills and preparing for violence is core to this organization and their views because they think that the government subscribing to these crazy conspiracy theories is going to strip them of their rights. fpz. >> garrett, while all this is playing out, you have the january 6th select committee still being stone walled by high profile lawmakers.
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many trump advisers. so where are they on their investigation as it stands today? >> well, a member of the select committee told me yesterday they are now up to nearly 400 interviews conducted. they had some high profile ones this week including the former white house press secretary, bernie kairk is talking to the committee. so they are making some progress. but the question about how they are going to deal with particularly the three current republican lawmakers who said they don't intend to talk to the committee is very much an open one. do they want to go down the path of subpoenaing them, having a potentially lengthy legal fight, kind of crossing what's acceptable in congress and how members are willing to deal with each other, or do they not? do they decide there's other ways to get at that same information? that's very much a live discussion for the committee. they are also expanding their ask, now a demand for big social media companies trying to get more information a about how
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those platforms were used to conduct both radicalization and coordinate efforts on january 6th. those subpoenas came out last night. >> do we know about their possible connections to the inner circle, to the trump people? i had had seen one report that they were involved in security on the that day for roger stone? >> many of the oath keepers themselves have said the reason they were in washington was not to attack the capitol, but to provide security for some trump supporters like roger stone and others. that's been their defense. but in terms of any connection between the trump administration, current or former skpx plans to attack the capitol, there's been no allegation of that from the government. >> and the fact that the ott keepers were involved with roger
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stone himself pardoned by the former president, so close to the former president, but we don't know of any further linkage? >> other than the fact that they said they wanted to provide him with security and were around him a good deal of that day, no. >> barbara, there's a poll released earlier this week showing that 58% of americans believe our democracy is in danger of collapse. that's a very high number. it includes people from the left and the right. obviously, people on one side of the aisle, one side of the range of political view feel it's on danger of collapse because of this and people on the other side believe the election or claim they believe the election was not fairly fought and donald trump should be president. what does that do to belief in the rule of law, to respect for law and order? to have so many people believing
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our democracy is seriously in trouble? >> i think it's very part louse for the rule of law. the speech that merrick garland gave about a week ago touched on this idea. the january 6th attack was a terrible thing, but it's not the only thing that's out there that's an assault on our democracy. we're also seeing all of these threats and intimidation and hrmt of local elected officials. school boards, health officials, election officials, and we're also seeing this movement to try to suppress voters with new laws on the books designed under this pretexas of preventing voter fraud so that narrative of voter fraud is being used to drive these laws that are going to disment power certain voters and certain groups. so altogether, i think this is a collective assault on democracy that needs to be fought on all of those fronts. >> and garrett, we have news from the hill of another
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retirement this time from a republican congressman deciding not to seek reelection. he is one of the ten who voted to impeach. >> katko voted to impeach former president trump. he was then a member tasked with negotiating a bipartisan commission to vgt the january 6th attack with bennie thompson. he did so. then kevin mccarthy, who had asked him to negotiate, had said he had not signed off on the agreement that was put in place cutting him off the a the knees. the commission was defeated or not able to move forward then. that's why we now have the select committee we have today. katko may have been facing another republican in the primary. so he was facing a tough reelection. he's got donald trump very upset with him. and now we know he will not be attempting to return for the next congress when he could have been a committee chairman had had he won reelection and
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republicans take control of the house. he's the ranking member on the homeland security committee. >> on that same theme, yesterday was such a busy day. i didn't have a chance to ask you about this. i saw lindsey graham suggesting mitch mcconnell had had not been loyal enough to donald trump and that if they take over that mitch mcconnell would not necessarily be the majority lead leader? >> this is the kind of story we should put a pin in and circle back next year. mcconnell has a pretty tight grip on the republican conference, but maybe not as tight as it used to be. you can't beat somebod with nobody. it's not clear who would challenge mcconnell. he's not interested in giving it up, but the are relationship with donald trump, the two men haven't talked in more than a year. that could remain problem battic with donald trump still the leader of the republican party. >> thank you all. we're going to come back in a moment. but first, just moments ago, the white house press secretary announcing president biden will
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have a news conference this coming wednesday at 4:00 p.m. that's on the eve of the first anniversary of his swearing in. and what's unusual is this will be only his second solo domestic white house news conference of his presidency. the last one was nine months ago in march of 2021. coming up, the supreme court knocking down the biden administration's vaccine mandate for private employers. more than 100 workers as omicron continues to spread. this is msnbc. to spread. to spread. this is msnbc. skyrizi may increase your risk of infections and lower your ability to fight them. before treatment, your doctor should check you for infections and tuberculosis. tell your doctor if you have an infection or soms such as fever, sweats, chills, muscle aches, or coughs or if you plan to or recently received a vaccine. ♪nothing is everything♪ talk to your dermatologist about skyrizi. learn how abbvie could help you save.
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million americans selected simply because they work for employers with more than 100 employees falls in the latter category. companies like united airlines, nike and tyson foods are keeping mandates in place. while the largest private employers walmart and amazon do not require vaccinations for their workers. in another move, the supreme court did uphold vaccine mandates for health care facilities getting federal aid. with justices kavanaugh and roberts joining the liberal minority 37 joining us is ceo of advancing health equity. your reaction to the majority, 6-3, of the supreme court blocking employer vaccine mandates? >> thank you so much for having me. i would say that this ruling really gave a significant blow and setback to any potential
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progress in this pan demic. we know workplaces have been a significant source of outbreaks throughout the pandemic. meat packing plants, construction sites, we foe that workplace safety is incredibly important to keeping workers safe. we also know that vaccine mandates work. so now we'll have to figure out other ways to get more people vaccinated. we could have saved over 6,500 workers' lives over the next 6 months if this mandate had had been upheld. but unfortunately, it has not and this ruling will cost lives. >> barbara, so the liberal justice pushing back strongly in their opinion in the osha case. they say the key question is who should get to decide what protection workers need. an agency with exper tees and health and safety acting as congress and the president authorized or a court lacking any knowledge of how to safeguard workplaces and insulated from responsibility of any damage it causes. this is another instance where,
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to me approach, the recent abortion ruling, seemed to indicate a lack of knowledge of the real world of health and safety measures or in the case of the abortion case, of how abortion works, to put it bluntly. >> yeah, that line is a really important one because they are actually responding to a theme in the majority opinion, which is this isn't about policy. we don't decide what the rules are. it's about who gets to decide. what they are saying is is states can order mandates, but they don't want the federal government to order mandates. they think that osha doesn't have the authority to issue this mandate. they make a distinction between workplace rules that are unique to the workplace and rules that might apply to the general population. but what the it points out is that's nonsense. osha has other rules that are hazards that apply to the general population.
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excessive noise or safe drinking water, our rules that osha made in the past without any problem. so to say that's the distinction really seems like a technicality that's more pretext than legal. instead, what the dissent is saying that it's not the policy, it's who gets to decide. you say states, not teds. what you're really doing is you, the majority, you justices who don't know anything about public health are deciding instead of letting osha, which is a group of experts who have decided this is propt for our workplaces. you're substituting your judgment for the judgment of experts. i think it's a very powerful opinion for that reason. >> doctor, when you think about the meat processing plants, the conditions of those workers and the horrible surge in cases in some of those midwestern meat processing plants in the early stages of covid, you have to wonder why the court thinks that
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osha should not be regulating the conditions, the health and safety conditions for workers in that place. >> absolutely. and also what we have seen is it's more likely for essential workers, service workers, low-income workers to actually be infected with covid. so there are fits parities, even racial disparities in terms of occupational risk. so i'm concerned that this ruling is going to put especially that worker population, low income, essential workers, service workers at risk at work and pose poshl threat to their safety, their health as well as their lives. >> well, this split on the court was unusual. do you read anything into that a that chief justice roberts and kavanaugh did rule that the
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front line health care workers could be protected? or could be forced to be vaccinated or test? >> yeah, it's interesting the way they have split this. these two justices have shown themselves to be a little more moderate perhaps in some of the others in the health care setting. what it requires here is looking at the specific statute that authorizes osha on the one hand and medicare and medicaid on the other hand. one of the rules in the programs is -- >> our thanks to both of you. the biden administration is deploying medical teams to hospitals in six states experiencing major covid surges. including new mexico, ohio, michigan, rhode island, new jersey and new york. nbc news correspondent joins us from coney island hospital in new york where one of those teams will be sent. what kind of backup are they sending, these doctors, nurses, medical technicians?
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>> reporter: hey, andrea. that's exactly right. what we're going to see here on monday is a military it medical surge team arriving with about 20 or more team members who are nurses, clinicians, physicians, real health care staff who are going to be joining the staff that's here in their day-to-day work. that means working directly with patients, running critical hospital functions and they are going to be on the ground for about 30 days. and the hope here is to really carry this hospital and others in five other states through the finish line, through the worst parts of this omicron surge. and hospitals like this one and university hospital in newark, new jersey, are reporting that they feel like they are bursting a at the seams right now. they have staff members out is sick, staff members who are experiencing extreme burnout. they are struggling to serve their patient populations in communities that are very diverse and often have low income patients, ininsured patients who need critical resources the most. there are some positive signs, though, in our new nbc news
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reporting. we find two weeks ago the fire departments ems service was reporting 30% of the members were out sick. now they are down to 14%. 11% for firefighters. that's still more than they would hope normally to see, but that's a real improvement. it means and indicates that we may be getting out of the woods here. but at hospitals like this one, they are still feeling the strain and are looking forward to the federal resources arriving monday. >> our reporting is that in new york, boston and d.c., cases are beginning to decline. hoping that's a leading edge, but that's not happening across the country. thank you very much. strife of the party. the president failing to unite democrats on voting rights. is there any hope to revive it? congressman neguse is joining us next. this is "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. this is "andrl reports" on msnbc.
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cause. his original plan was to work through the weekend to meet his taedline of martin luther king jr.'s holiday on monday. that's no longer possible because he needed all 50 democrats to be present and hawaii senator is out with covid. without any gop support and democratic senators sinema and manchin making clear they have no plans to change the filibuster rule, there's no viable path forward. he still planned those votes next week now canceling the congressional recess. joining us is congressman joe neguse, democrat from colorado. thank you so much. you addressed the senate recently saying the eyes of the world are on you. the senate now is clearly shutting this down because of the rules argument over the filibuster. you're a house member, but as a member of the house black caucus and an elected official, how do you feel about this?
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>> well, it's disheartening. it's good to be with you, andrea. but obviously, yesterday was a setback in terms of the statements that were made by two of the senators that you referenced. but i still remain hopeful. there's a quote from dr. king who we'll commemorate his birthday this weekend. the time is always right to do what is right. i'm still hopeful the senate will find a way to muster the courage to do what is right and to pass the freedom to vote act, which as you know, is senator manchin's bill. that's a bill that senator manchin crafted working with colleagues in the senate and a few members of the house. and i believe it's time for the senate to take that bill up. it's important for the vote to go and happen as schedule. and for the country to see where their senators stand. >> how would you feel a about a
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fallback position, cha mitch mcconnell talked about to address the electoral college issue and the question of whether the election can be overturned by these appointments for secretaries of state rather than voter suppression and access? >> look, i certainly support reforms to the electoral college act. it's something that myself and many of my colleagues have been talking about and working about for the better part of the last year since january 6th of 2021. but i'll just also say this. it's important we not let republicans off the hook with respect to the freedom to vote act and the john lewis voting rights act. you have covered these issues for years. in 2006 the last time it was authorized or reauthorized was done so almost on a unanimous basis in the senate and house. president bush signed that reauthorization into lu. to think that a mere 14, 15 years later to have so many
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republicans who are serving in the senate who voted to reauthorize that law previously and now refuse to do so gives you a sense as to where the republican party is today. there's been no argument that i have heard against the freedom to vote act or the john lewis voting rights act. it's confounding to me why so many senate republicans, all of the republicans refuse to c to the table and work with the democratic party and in the house and senate to secure voting rights for americans. >> it became even more after that 2013 supreme court decision watered down the reauthorized voting rights act. to be continued. thank you so much for coming in and have a good weekend, congressman. >> thank you. and before the "today" show, there was nothing. no morning television. just test patterns putting news, information and entertainment on television in the morning. that was truly revolutionary.
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>> here it is. january 14th, 1952 when nbc begins a new program called "today." if it doesn't sound too revolutionary, i really believe begins a new kind of television. >> every morning bringing the world's biggest stories and news makers into america's homes for the first time. >> the president of the united states is dead. >> dr. martin luther king died violently last night in memphis, tennessee. >> when he had it all. >> pope john paul ii was the target of an assassination attempt. >> a plane has just crashed into the world trade center. >> the "today" show has always been a place that politicians want to come to and where they can always expect a tough question. >> do you think this was a perfect call? >> do you feel like you owe her an apology? >> i never talked to her.
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in california governor newsom reje a recommendation that the assassinator of robert kennedy. he's still a threat to the public. the 77-year-old has spent more than five decades behind bars for shooting kennedy in his victory celebration. when he was a rising contender for president in 1968. the possibility of him being paroled divided the kennedy family. releasing a statement along with six children praising the governor's decision saying they were deeply relieved. others argued he should be released. the request will now go become to the parole pord for another hearing in 18 months.
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robert kennedy's daughter joins us now. thank you very much. i know this is really weighed on your family for five months while this was being reviewed. so i know you're gratified by the decision. do you think there's still the possibility despite the governor's very complete statement, lengthy statement about all the evidence of the refusal to acknowledge his guilt? do you think there's a chance he could be released down the road? you know, i'm so grateful to governor newsom for siding with justice on this issue. he's going to come up for parole every 18 months for the rest of his life. and this is very dangerous to society. i remember as a kid campaigning with daddy. we went to dsneyland in california and that night, we
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went to the ambassador hotel and waited for the returns to come back. i was only 8 years old so i was sent to my hotel, which was elsewhere in l.a. and i went to sleep and the next morning i got up to watch cartoons buzz it was still on east coast time and i was watching bugs bunny alone in this hotel with my feet crossed, and i'm watching the screen. that's how i learned that my father was had been shot. and then we went to virginia. the next day my brother called me and told me that we had lost my dad. the first thing i did was i prayed for daddy and my mother and our family. then i prayed for his killer. and i said please god, don't kill the guy who killed my father because i didn't want any other family to go through what we had gone through. and that feeling is still here today.
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i don't want any other family to go through what we have gone through. and that's why this guy cannot get out of jail. he has no remorse. he has no regret. he has not been rehabilitated and he has a hair trigger range. he's very dangerous to society. he can't be let out. >> kerry, i don't think i have ever heard that story before. it's unimaginable. iz know where i was. i was a kid reporter. i was in the newsroom late that night because of the california time distance. and it had come only months after dr. king's death. so 1968 was a horrendous year for the nation, but for your family, eight children at the time. eight children were left without
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a father. >> no, 11. >> excuse me, i meant 11 children. and your mother. and. >> and he did this -- he said it was premeditated. he brought a gun. he did this on the anniversary of the war. he went to target practice this morning. he built bullets that were incredibly fatal. he went to the hotel where my father was and he shot my father twice. and he also shot five other people. and he nearly killed my mother, who was right next to my father, who was pregnant with my baby sister. i mean, this wasn't just a random shooting. this was a massacre.
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>> i know your family was divided over this. that had to be very painful with bobby jr. >> like we just discussed, 11 kids. i had over 150 ken dis, first cousins, nieces and nephews, relatives of joe and rose kennedy. there's nothing that we all agree on. so when you come from a group that large, you're just going to expect that not everybody is on the same page all the time. and that's the way it rolls. but really the point is not about our family. the point is about your family. the point is about our country. this was a political assassination. this was a terrorist attack. it was a killing of a united states senator in the middle of a presidential campaign. and our country has never healed from that. the difference between having bobby kennedy as president
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versus richard nixon as president with his southern strategy of dividing black against white in order to get more and more votes is still with us today. and that's what led up to donald trump. and so my dad spent that entire campaign, the major theme was haling divisions. he said peace, justice and compassion for those who suffer. that's what the united states should stand for. so yes, i lost my father. and my ten brothers and sisters lost their father. but our country lost our leader, and that's what this is about. >> kerry kennedy, thank you for sharing your thoughts. there's no way to speak -- there's no way to address how unspeakable it was for you and for the nation. >> thank you.
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>> thank you for being with us. after a week of big political disappointments, president biden is scheduled to speak a all the any minute to talk about the benefits of the infrastructure law including billions of dollars to fix thousands of bridges, charging stations for electric vehicle, among other major programs. joining us us now is senior white house correspondent kelly o'donnell, jeff mason and former republican chair michael steele. the white house is clearly looking to tout some wins. it's been a rough week. >> reporter: there have been some very big challenges for the president. this will be a moment to be able to pause and talk about something that went as they had hoped it would and something that matters very much to the american public. and that is infrastructure. and this was bipartisan. this will show us some of the ways that in real practical terms, money that was appropriated through the bipartisan infrastructure law will become reality in real projects to affect bridges
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around the country. we'll hear from the president and we'll hear from mitch landrieu, who people remember as the former mayor of new orleans who has been tasked with the president implement infrastructure and this will be about making some of the rotting, decaying, areas of concern. remember that list of bridges that were on the top ten of being a real threat it public safety so this is a chance for the president to tout a win with specific projects now and money being allocated and the chance to try to see what could come. it does come at a time when the president has had other political setbacks. this is where they want to talk about something that worked well and they can promise in the future tangible results. >> jeff mason, i want to talk about foreign policy. you were at that famous news conference with donald trump at
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the summit. and you have started -- you have seen it up close, but russia now is saying that there was nothing accomplished and there's certainly been no narrowing of positions between russia and the u.s. after a week of diplomacy. there really is a universal view that it has failed to prevent anything worse from happening. now nbc is reporting there are russian operatives, prepositioning to create a false flag operation to issue ukraine to try to promote a false pretext for an attack on ukraine saying they were trying to attack russia. this was hinted at by judge sullivan when he said there wasn't intelligence about that at his briefing yesterday. >> yeah, there sure was. you sited that press conference
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do is how history repeats itself. with president putin in office as long as he has been, the tensions between russia and the united states have -- those incidents of repetition are continuing. and that's definitely a big challenge for president biden right now. the president and his staff, including jake sullivan have made very clear that there will be very tough economic sanctions, tougher than they've ever had before. if russia does make the decision to invade ukraine. but this counts as one of the big e challenges facing the white house right now. and they have been saying for weeks they don't know what decision the president of russia will make, but certainly his latest moves including the reporting that you decided suggests that he is certainly ready to invade ukraine if that's the decision he makes. >> and on the political side, michael steele, you're a former republican chairman. we're hearing from the republican national committee that they have decided that they will demand that any republican
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nominee agree -- any candidate for the nomination agree not to participate in the debates that have been in the place from the presidential debate commission since 1987. >> yeah. you know, look, there's always been this sort of haggling with the process of the debates. particularly going back to the debate of 2012 with mitt romney being fact checked during the course of the debate by one of the reporters. so that's always stuck in the craw. and donald trump is hyper sensitive to the idea of debating because he doesn't like debating. he doesn't like to do the work that goes into debating. the rnc is trying to grease the skids a little bit more. some of the recommendations that they've asked for are good recommendations. but this idea that you're going to threaten potential presidential nominee with what?
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because this is not something the political parties are involved in. the commission doesn't work with them. because it's an apolitical process. they work with the campaigns. so a little bit of this is sort of the drama to feed the trump engine. to make him feel like the party is going to be there fighting for him should he decide to run. and make it as easy as possible for him to do. i think the country is going to need a debate in 2024. i don't see that not happening. and the rnc thinks that's going to just take place on fox, they have another thing coming. the reality is this is a lot of dog and pony show noise right now that is going to lead to very little, because it's going to be the presidential nominee who ultimately decides when, how, and under what circumstances they debate. >> and very briefly, were you surprised by lindsey graham saying that mitch mcconnell has
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not been loyal enough to the former president to be the leader if they do regain the majority? >> is this the same lindsey graham who wasn't loyal enough when he slammed the president for what he did on january 6th? look, you can't take anything that comes out of lindsey's mouth seriously, because it's going to change depending on the mood and the wind. you know, the fact of the matter is mitch mcconnell of all the republican leaders has been the one, has been the most unmovable by donald trump. and so lindsey graham nipping at his heels is not something mcconnell is not only going to pay attention to but take seriously. mcconnell has control of that senate. lindsey knows it. that was more drama for, again, feeding trump, than moving mitch mcconnell. >> well, thanks to all of you. this is a drama that is going to continue to unfold. kelly is nodding. she's going to be out there on
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the '22 trail and ready for it, of course. it's going to be fascinating to watch it. thanks again. have a great weekend, you all, and meanwhile someone who may not have such a great weekend is novak djokovic, playing in the australian open, or trying to. that's once again up in the air after australia's authorities revoked his visa for a second time on health and good order rounds due to his lack of vaccination. this decision comes just days after an australian judge overruled border officials and allowed the top seeded player to stay in the country. keir simmons is with us. he's looking to the australian open where he consistently wins. he has a great shot at it, and he's trying to break the tie where nodal as 20 and roger has 20 -- >> yeah. >> he wants to get 21.
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>> reporter: he sure does. and we don't know whether it's going to happen, whether he will appear at the stadium in australia. you can see the picture behind me. it's going to be quite a weekend. because we now know he will be detained tomorrow. that he will -- there will be another court hearing on sunday. just a day before djokovic's first match. you know, it's been a week, andrea, like a tense tennis tie break. first he arrives in australia. then he has his visa revokes. then he wins in court. then it was revoked again. now we have this weekend ahead. his has been justified politically. the australian immigration minister saying today, i exercised my power under section is 133 c 3 under the migration act. on health and good orderer grounds on the basis it was in the public interest to do so. now, in the hearing today, it
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was talked about that djokovic's presence in australia would encourage anti-vaxers. the prime minister of australia is saying that it was carefully considered, and saying that the decision was made in the interest of australians who have been through so much. fans of djokovic just want to see him play. >> well, we're going to have to leave it there for now. stay tuned. and that does it for this edition of andrea mitchell reports. and chuck todd will be here with "mtp daily" after this brief message. daily" after this brief bacon, new... (whistle blowing) did you just spike the footlong? sorry, i didn't want the delay of game. save big. order through the app. at vanguard, you're more than just an investor, you're an owner with access to financial advice, tools and a personalized plan that helps you build a future for those you love.
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