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another hour of "velshi" begins right now. good morning. it's 9:00 a.m. in the east. it's been nearly one full year since donald trump left office in disgrace. at this time last year, his second impeachment trial for inciting an insurrection was underway. it justifiably dominated the trump narrative since then. the heinousness of the attack has almost made us forget about his other horrible acts of corruption. new reporting from "the new york times" sheds light on the attempts to politicize the census bureau. a newly disclosed memorandum citing unprecedented meddling by the trump administration in the 2020 census and circulated among top census bureau officials indicates how strongly they sought to resist efforts by the
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administration to manipulate the count for republican political gain. the issues include crucial technical aspects of the count, including the privacy of census respondents, use of estimates to fill in missing population data, pressure to take shortcuts to produce population totals quickly and political pressure on a crash program that was seeking to identify and count undocumented immigrants. most of the issues affected the population estimates used for reapportionment, which has a big impact on the balance of power in congress. the count affects how congressional districts are drawn up. that's a process that's contested because redrawing maps allows the party in control to redistribute power. it happens every time. it's happening right now. on friday, the ohio supreme court threw out a gerrymandered map and as of january 5, 2022, 34 cases are pending challenging
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congressional and legislative maps in 12 states as racially discriminatory and/or partisan gerrymanders. this is another reminder how donald trump overstepped his bounds. they tried to gain an upper hand any way they could. they are still at it. last night, trump appeared at a rally in arizona to continue his national gaslighting campaign. he repeated the same lies. he was joined by a supporting cast of other election deniers, some of whom he has endorsed to serve in public office. trump loves playing king maker, particularly if it will benefit him down the line. so far, he endorsed 59 republican candidates who support the big lie. that's what this is about. it's a power grab by any means necessary. his bullying of opponents and allies alike, his meddling in
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elections, with the censure bureau, the continuation of the big lie. that unrestrained yearning for power is exactly why we need safeguards to protect our democracy. here with me now, betty woodruff swan. good morning. part of this is an effort to get to the bottom of and account for what happened on january 6 and the effort to overturn the 2020 election. there have been a number of developments in the last week. what stands out for you? >> so much. this week was jam packed. one thing that i think is really worth highlighting, stewart rhodes, the head of the far right group oath keepers was charged with sedition conspiracy. they went after ten other people in his circle.
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one detail in this indictment that i think is really important, it alleges that between december 30th and january 19th, he spent more than $40,000 on guns, ammunition and other military equipment. that's a lot of money. where did that money come from? another important detail is that about if not more than half of the $40,000 he spent after january 6. this really helps show why there was so much security around the president's inauguration, why dhs was so vocal and other agencies have been so vocal after january 6 about the danger persisting. even after that horrifically violent day, we have the head of the oath keepers still spending, according to this indictment, tens of thousands of dollars on weapons. that's a sobering new fact we got this week. it's something that i think
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gives a lot of food for thought. >> part of your reporting is about how intelligence analysts failed to report violent messages online ahead of the january 6 insurrection. >> that's right. we obtained emails through an open records request. one of these shows that in the 48 hours before the attack on the capitol, analysts in dhs saw communications online that were calls for violence. they saw communications that are only described in this email as significant chatter. the email says, but analysts and that leadership decided not to share this information with agencies outside of dhs, including capitol police, because they thought it was just hyperbole. the fact that intelligence analysts whose job it is to understand the threats that this country face chose to give
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essentially a clean bill of goods to the situation going into january 6 despite the fact that they saw concerning material online, is also a substantial new development. in this same email threat, there's back and forth on january 6 at the height of the violence and chaos. u.s. capitol police asked dhs if they had intelligence that would show what type of tactics they might be using. instead of sending over new intelligence according to the emails, a supervisor in the dls intelligence office whose name is redacted said to keep information internal because they didn't think the intelligence they had reached the standards of proof in order to send it over. i spoke to one former senior u.s. intelligence official who read this and said he was g shocked.
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>> it's an interesting discussion. what is the standard of proof? how do you determine what's nonsense? you and i spend a lot of time online and a lot is nonsense. what do you know at 2:00 in the afternoon on the day of january 6 that you should be passing over to police because you are seeing things that look like threats and somebody determines that to be credible and somebody doesn't? we will have to save that for another time. good to see you. thank you for joining us. joining me now is the democratic congressman jamie raskin of maryland. he was the lead house manager in donald trump's second impeachment trial, which came about as a result of january 6. he is the author of the new book "unthinkable, trauma, truth and the trials of american democracy." congressman, good to see you. thanks for being with us. i want to follow off of what betsy said. what we are learning in our reporting every day is that there are more things to be
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learned about january 6, despite the fact that when you were a house manager for the impeachment, you had such detail and so much information and yet there's so much more. my question for you is, where does it lead and when do we find out that someone will be held accountable? we saw the oath keepers charged this week. is that as good as it gets? >> thank you for having me. the senate impeachment trial dealt with one guy and one crime. incitement to violent insurrection. the select committee on january 6 has undertaken a more sweeping investigation into every level of activity taking place. i told you before that i see this as a coup surrounded by a violent insurrection surrounded by a mob riot. within each ring of activity there is now extraordinary detail coming to light about what exactly took place. even the indictment of stewart
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rhodes and ten other members of the oath keepers is just the beginning. that was one subgroup within that level of domestic violent extremists. there were the proud boys. there were the three percenters. there were other groups, the qanon networks. they were organized in similar fashion. we have just begun to scratch the surface of all of the activity taking place. the center of it, as you know, was donald trump's insistence upon seizing the presidency for another four years and his attempt to perpetrate a coup against vice president mike pence and the congress. >> during the impeachment trial and some of the work you are doing on the committee now, you are dealing with donald trump and the people in his circle. then there's this group of different groups that you just mentioned, including the oath keepers. but there's a third group the january 6 committee is bumping up against walls with. that's your own colleagues who
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were there that day who may have had a role either a liaison or organizational role or encouraging role in the things that led up to the insurrection. where is the committee in determining your rights in terms of getting information from members of congress? >> first let me say that, we have not undertaken any systematic study of the members of the house or the members of the senate. rather, we are looking at those specific spheres of activity. to the extent members of congress were themselves engaged in different efforts to destabilize and overthrow the election or unleash violence against congress or incite this mob into riotous activity, then they are coming to our attention. we will pursue that. the chair, mr. thompson, the vice chair, miss cheney said we will leave no stone unturned. we will not give anybody a pass on this. we have the power under article 1 of the constitution set the
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rules of our own houses. we have the right to discipline members all the way up to expulsion. members of congress cannot be questioned for their legislative activity outside of congress. which clearly implies that within congress, we have the authority to do that. we view this as the most serious threat to the continuation of american democracy that any of us has seen in our lifetimes. maybe the most serious threat since the civil war. the war of 1812. we are going to pursue what happens so we can fortify our institutions going forward. >> talk to me about the fact that there's a chance -- a slim majority in the house. there's a chance the midterm elections, could you lose that. republicans have been clear they will dismantle the committee. what's the likelihood of people from whom you need to hear running out the clock and not
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letting you finish your business by the end of this year? >> obviously, they fancy that conclusion. we are determined to see to it that our power of investigation, which the supreme court has said is complete, like the power of a court, is vindicated. the vast majority of people have been cooperating with us, have come forward to the committee. we talked to more than 400 witnesses at this point. we have more than 50,000 documents. this is the most videotaped and photographs insurrection or episode of violence in american history. certainly at this scale. it is true the closer you get to donald trump, the more we are finding people trying to sandbag and stonewall us. they are offering a lot of frivolous legal objections. certainly, the d.c. circuit has obliterated the claim we don't
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have a legitimate legislative purpose. what could be a more legitimate purpose than the preservation of the u.s. government and the constitution? it's true, they are trying to drag their feet. >> congressman, good to see you. thanks for your work. jamie raskin of maryland, a member of the january 6 house select committee. a programming note. sunday, february 6, mark your calendar, msnbc will present, "love and the constitution." it provides a look into the life of this man i spoke to, congressman raskin. the film follows the maryland democrat for more than three years as he fights to defend democracy during donald trump's presidency and in the second impeachment trial. it airs sunday, february 6, at 10:00 p.m. eastern only on
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this morning, four people are returning to their families after being held hostage in a small texas town. overnight, law enforcement rescued worshipers held hostage for most of saturday at a synagogue in texas. the suspected hostage taker is dead. the fbi identified him but hasn't shared his name. it began during saturday morning services at congregation beth israel. the standoff continued into the
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night. in exchange for the hostages, the suspect demanded the release of a federal inmate. he referred to her as his sister. authorities later proved that to be untrue. she's well-known among terrorists and is serving an 86 year sentence after being convicted in 2010 for attempting to kill u.s. officers in afghanistan. joining me now is morgan chesky in texas. what's the latest this morning? >> reporter: good morning. the latest is, this is a very active investigation. you can see the police presence behind me. e are roads blocked off in a smaller perimeter than what we witnessed last night but still a perimeter around congregation beth israel synagogue. they are trying to find out more about that 11-hour standoff. one of the key pieces of information that will be helping them is the fact this they were able to debrief each of the
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hostages that were released last night after they were rescued. they spent hours speaking with . it started around 10:45 yesterday when police were first alerted to this ongoing situation. that resulted in the release of one hostage, a man, around 6:00 p.m. local time and remaining three rescued about four hours later. this is important to note, fbi hostage negotiators flew to texas when this was started to be well-known. they established a dialogue with this gunman who was inside. they said it was a relatively consistent dialogue throughout the better part of the day in which they are sharing he publically asked for the release of the federal prisoner. we did ask authorities, were there other demands? they wouldn't share that. they wouldn't share if any
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weapons were recovered or what weapons he had. those details hoping to come out today as they continue to cover this scene, both federal and state authorities, and learn more about what took place. >> morgan, thanks for your reporting. morgan chesky live from texas. in his 1957 give us the ballot speech, dr. king declared that the right to vote is one of the highest mandates of our democratic tradition. if he were here today, he would see that this country is struggling to maintain that tradition. his son and daughter-in-law are taking up the mantle in the fight for democracy. i will talk to them after a quick break. talk to them after talk to them after quick break. starting at age 45, instead of 50, since colon cancer is increasing in younger adults. i'm cologuard®. i'm convenient and find 92% of colon cancers... ...even in early stages. i'm for people 45 plus at average risk for colon cancer,
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led the bus boycott. it lasted 385 days. his home was bombed. the supreme court eventually ruled racial segregation was prohibited on buses. he led the march on washington in 1963 to protest racial discrimination. in the shadow of the lincoln memorial, in front of 200,000 people, he uttered the famous words, i have a dream. one year later, the civil rights act was passed. in 1965, civil rights groups marched in an effort to promote equal voting rights. peaceful participants were met with force by state troopers who beat them with sticks, used tear gas and whips on them. the late john lewis was among those beaten on what is known as bloody sunday. two days later, dr. king led a group back to that bridge. those events led to the passage of the voting rights act of
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1965, a landmark bill that prohibits racial discrimination. he saw a need for change and he took action, even if it meant being thrown in jail. he was arrested 29 times in the name of civil rights. until the day he was assassinated, he stood for the universal application of voting rights. in a 1957 address titled, give us the ballot, dr. king said that denial of this right is a tragic betrayal of the highest mandates of our democratic tradition. in 2022, activists are still being arrested. americans are still fighting for fair access to voting. the voting rights act that dr. king worked so hard to pass is now essentially moot. makes you wonder what he would say about the situation in the country today. we don't have to guess too much. his las angeleslegacy is alive . yesterday, martin luther king
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iii and his wife led a march for voting rights in arizona through the hometown of senator sinema, one of the democrats blocking two key voting rights bills in the senate. king iii said, senator sinema is standing in the way of federal voting rights legislation by supporting the jim crow filibuster. that's why we are in arizona demanding she and congress stand on the right side of history and eliminate the filibuster and deliver for voting rights now. as his father once said, the hour is late, the clock of destiny is ticking out. we must act now before it's too late. i'm joined by martin luther king iii and his wife. they are the co-founders of give us the ballot. he is the eldest son of dr. martin luther king junior. thank you for being with us this morning. mrs. king, let me ask you first,
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when kyrsten sinema made her speech last week, she said clearly, she's in support of both of these bills before the senate that have democratic support. she's not in support of overcoming the filibuster in order to get them passed. how do you square those two things? she said she supports voting rights but she holds the key to being able to have those become law in america. that's something she's not prepared to do. >> i think that's the question of the hour. i think that she owes it to all arizonians to explain how can you support legislation that actually has your name on it and not provide a clear pathway for that legislation to become a reality. >> mr. king, after john lewis passed away in july of 2020, kyrsten sinema said -- she tweeted, i voted for john lewis, my hero. i embodied all this congress
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would be and what i hoped to be. a man of principal and courage. you have made the point that people quote your father, who do not actually do the things that he fought for and died for. >> that's absolutely correct. i think that's why it's so imperative that particularly arizonians reach out to the senator and appeal to her as we approach a vote that will at least begin on tuesday, could maybe happen on tuesday as well. arizonians should have currency with her. we challenge her. we constantly challenge her. i certainly challenge anyone who maybe -- i don't like to criticize people, but you have to challenge people. we can and we must do better. we are better than we are seeing some of the behavior that exists today.
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>> mrs. king, i think that language of challenging people is particularly relevant right now. there are a lot of good people in this country who do not grasp how serious this moment is. you tweeted the other day, as a mother who wants to leave the world a better place for the next generation, i feel the weight of this moment our country is facing. i'm hoping this nation will choose to be -- choose the better of two paths and put democracy over division. how do you convince people who don't live in the history that the two of you live that this is actually existential to democracy? this isn't some fringe thing for black people. >> you know, our daughter is the only grandchild of martin luther king junior. she was born in 2008. in 2013, the voting rights act, the cornerstone of her grandfather's legacy was dismantled. in 2021, last year in our home state of georgia, one of the 19 states that has passed these
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repressive voting rights act, they are sitting with less voting rights than the day they were born. i can't imagine if that's the dream martin luther king had for children. >> mr. king, that's an important point. i don't think most people understand the point that your wife just made. i think if you polled most americans, they say the voting rights act was remarkable and they would support it. when you tell them that it's actually not in place in the way that they think it is, it does not offer protections that you believe that they held, and yet the very things that that law argued for are being dismantled, they don't seem to think it's that serious. your father said, i think the tragedy is that we have a congress with a senate that has a minority of misguided senators who will use the filibuster to keep the majority of people from even voting. that was in 1963 he said that.
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>> one thing i would say is people, whomever they are that do not remember the history are doomed to repeat the mistakes of the past. we have to let it be known clearly that the fact that this is where we are. that's why we are using our voices. we hopefully are using them as trumpets to inform. what we do know is that when people engage, progress can become a reality. we have to keep our eye on the mark. we are not going to give up. we are not going to give out. we will keep pushing forward in a positive way. we want to bring people together. 63% of americans support this. the challenge is the united states senate is where the obstacles are. that's why we are targeting them like a laser. hopefully on the king holiday tomorrow, millions of people will reach out to all of the senators saying we want to see this done and we need it now to
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protect, preserve and expand voting rights. >> mrs. king, the martin luther king junior holiday should be taken seriously. it almost feels like in this couple of years that we are in, where voting rights is more prominent, that it is a day that people shouldn't just think of as a day they are not going to work but really sort of engage as citizens and say, what's my job as a citizen to preserve democracy, a message martin luther king used to make on a regular basis. >> that's exactly what his wife had in mind when she lobbied so many years to make the holiday a federal holiday. it always was supposed to be a day of action, a day on, not a day off. i can't think of any more critical topic this year than our democracy, which is at stake. we have a wonderful opportunity to make our voices heard and known.
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the clock is, indeed, ticking. i think it's historic in the fact that we are so close to the king holiday, we know that the majority of americans agree with having easier access to the ballot box. we understand that. we know also that the majority stand for democracy. democracy will always ring louder than division in this country. now it's time to just take those steps to your phone, to your computer and to make your voices heard, certainly the senators and let them know how critical of an issue and how we all stand for laws that lift us up. not for laws that limit us. >> thank you to both of you. i think about all these deadlines that come and go and rules for things. i realize that you and your family have been fighting this for your lives. will continue to do so and are playing a long game.
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it's not a game, but you are in it for long haul. thanks to both of you. >> thank you. how to mend a divided nation. it's a question my colleague jonathan capeheart will explore on the sunday show starting at 10:00 a.m. eastern. y show startt y show startt 10:00 a.m. eastern strokes can be reversed. joints can be 3-d printed. and there isn't one definition of what well feels like. there are millions. we're using our world to make your world a world of well.
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i have said we try not to spend too much time discussing the failed former president and his election lies. he is widely expected to run as a republican presidential candidate in 2024. so it's important to keep an eye on the messages that he is sending to the political party that he has taken over. the clip we are about to play was obtained from a cbs affiliate in ohio. in it, trump appears in a video message played for the attendees of the pennsylvania republican debate held in new castle last wednesday. he is spreading baseless lies, disproved about the 2020 election results. >> western pennsylvania, as you know, we did very well there. we did very well in the state. we won the state. it's something that i contest and i will continue to contest. we were up by a massive amount at 10:00 in the evening. all of a sudden, things closed
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and it reopened and look what happened. we have to be a lot sharper the next time when it comes to counting the vote. there's a famous statement, sometimes the vote counter is more important than the candidate. we can't let that ever, ever happen again. they have to get tougher and smarter. >> a lot to unpack there. joining me to help with that is my friend and colleague john than capehart. crazy stuff. he says, we won the state, which he didn't. we were up by a massive amount and all of a sudden -- which is how election ballot counting works. someone is up. someone is down until you count all the votes. then he says there's a famous statement -- nobody has been able to prove that statement. if you were to prove it, if you believe it was ever made, the idea that the counter is more important than the candidate, it's a stalin quote. the whole thing is nuts, except he could be the next republican
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candidate for the presidential party. >> he could be the nominee. more in the here and now, what he said there, that is probably more important, who counts the votes than the candidate, that's exactly what is happening in states across the country as republican governors and state legislatures have moved from not just trying to keep people electric registering to vote and keeping them from voting, but now architecture to make the vote counters exert their will over the will of the american people. >> that's right. the architecture to do that. you on your show actually -- you are holding a special version to talk about voting and the right to vote. >> right. the special edition, our mantra is our fragile democracy. we will focus on the morality of voting rights legislation, threats to democracy at the federal and state levels and how to mend a divided nation ahead
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of the martin luther king junior holiday. co-chair of the congressional voting rights caucus, she represents birmingham, montgomery and selma. also with us this morning will be melanie campbell, cora masters barry and nse ufot. she's been on our air a lot. i had the chance to sit down with the outgoing virginia governor to talk about the lessons he learned about himself and race relations during his term. a lot to talk about. a lot of people to talk about all this stuff with. >> yeah. what you said -- i was talking to the kings, martin luther king iii and his wife. they are talking about -- it's remarkable that the very stuff martin luther king was talking and warning people about in a national environment where people did not take this matter
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as seriously as we think they do in history is repeating itself today. >> right. in fact, i get into that a little bit in the top of my show. i remind people, history isn't linear. history doesn't always march in a trajectory that's about advancement. what john lewis marched for, lots of people marched for, is still what's being talked about today. that is what we're going to talk about in the show. >> i like forward to it. it's going to be a good special. we appreciate that. catch a special edition of "the sunday show" 10:00 a.m. eastern right here on msnbc. the supreme court struck down a major part of president biden's plan to combat the covid-19 pandemic and its ongoing omicron outbreak. his vaccine or test mandate for
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last summer, united airlines had a big covid problem. the airline suffered more than one covid related death of an employee per week. things started to turn around once the company institute aid strict vaccine mandate policy in august, before the federal government was involved in this. get vaccinated or get terminated. fast forward to this week when the ceo shared the airline has not had any covid-related deaths among vaccinated employees. about 3,000 workers out of roughly 70,000, have tested positive. none have been hospitalized. he attributes that to the vaccine mandate.
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united says more than 96% of its employees are vaccinated. over the last several months, other big businesses have issued vaccine mandates as well. cvs, delta, mcdonald's, tyson foods to name a food have used some version of a mandate to keep their workers safe. the biden administration was trying to do the same thing when it mandated that companies with over 100 workers submit to a vaccine-or-test policy. but this week that was blocked by the supreme court's conservative majority. in a 6-3 vote, they undercuted a policy that's only mission is to protect people from the virus. next i will be joined with an osha administrator who will help us what osha can and do to continue keeping workers safe. .
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so that a foster child isn't doing it solo. you just have to stand up for a kid who isn't fluent in bureaucracy, or maybe not in their own emotions. so show up, however you can, for the foster kids who need it most— at helpfosterchildren.com joining me now is an epidemiologist by trade, but, importantly, he is the former united states assistant secretary of labor for osha, the occupational safety and health administration. he's a professor at the george washington university of public health. and by good fortune, he and i last spoke on october the 5th of last year, which is the date in which the obama administration -- i'm sorry, the biden administration decided that they are going to ask companies with more than a
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hundred employees to get vaccinated, get their people vaccinated or tested on a weekly basis. dr. michaels, good to see you again, thank you for being with us. on that day you described to me how this is not really just a vaccination mandate. in fact, it's not really a mandate. it's a healthplace safety initiative like all the other osha initiatives are. >> certainly it's very disappointing. we're all disappointed about it, the intention behind that was to keep the american workplace safe as we're putting this rule together we talked to medical experts who supported us wholeheartedly saying it was the right thing to do. we spoke to legal experts who said absolutely we had the right to do it. and on top of it all what we were doing at the department of labor and osha was not a mandate, it was a vaccine or testing option for people to get back into business.
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>> dr. michaels, that's exactly what you told me in october. so what went wrong? >> that's right. well, this supreme court dominated by these republican-appointed judges, they really don't want to stop this pandemic. i believe in my heart that they don't care. but, you know, covid-19 remains a massive safety crisis. employers have seen that by requiring vaccination. they save lives and they make workplaces safe. right now millions of workers in the united states are scared to go to work. and we're not going to stop this pandemic, and we want to get people back to work, but we need some much better workplace protections, and we have to go around and figure out what we can do given what the supreme court has said. >> some of these large companies, we use united as an example because they basically did their own mandate and it worked for them. delta used a slightly different system where if you didn't get it, you were going to get a
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surcharge on your monthly insurance premiums that were going to make a difference in your decision. different people have done it different ways. one could argue that works, except it doesn't work for everybody. >> that's right. and certain states have essentially banned either masks or compulsory vaccination. so i think where they can, every employer should require vaccinations, but, of course, some workers can't get vaccinated, they have immune deficiencies, religious objections. so i think what osha has to do now is issue a traditional osha standard, very much like the osha standard around asbestos or silica saying that every employer needs to implement a plan to make sure their workplace is safe. there will be some exposure, there will be some people who are unvaccinated so we have to make sure people wear the right sorts of masks, the n95 astrazeneca astrazenec or the kn95s.
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and that way we can really begin to slow this pandemic down and save lives and make workplaces safe. >> you know, you make an interesting point that these can be osha rules. you see these postings about what's allowed, what's not allowed. you get training about that. what would be different about what you're suggesting osha do than what's already been done? >> what osha hasn't done -- and really i've been calling for this since actually january of 2020 -- is to put in these basic rules like we have for all other hazards, say, okay, let's figure out what's going on at this workplace, let's look at the hazard and we'll make a plan. some workplaces are safe already. white-collar workplaces where people can keep a little bit of distance and there's lots of air going through probably don't have to do very much. but the meat packing factories, the warehouses where there's lots of people close together, those really need systems where
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we make sure there's enough fresh air going through, and people aren't breathing air that has the virus in it. and that way the workplaces will be safe and people will be able to come in and they'll feel comfortable working. right now so many people are out of work. omicron will pass, but this virus is not going away. we have to learn to live with workplaces safe.o make >> dr. michaels, good to see you again. thank you for being with us. he's the former united states assistant secretary of labor for osha, the occupational safety and health administration. and he's a professor at the george washington university school of public health. well, that does it for me. thank you for watching "velshi." catch me here every saturday and sunday morning from 8:00 a.m. to 10:00 a.m. catch a special edition of "the sunday show: our fragile democracy" right now. a defining moment for our democracy this martin luther king weekend as activists push even harder to protect the right
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