the easiest two years to be a comic in this country, but funny-man mo aman made it work. i'm going ask him how. i'm ayman mohyeldin. couldn't the u.s. government the training its own insurrectionists, on thursday the department of justice charged 11 members of the oath keepers, a far-right militia group with seditious conspiracies for the role in the january 6th attack. now inside those indictment documents are new details of how the militia group used military schools to advance their extremist plots. here, you could see a group using a formation known as ranger file. it's a standard procedure convent teams use as they breach a building. and it's instantly recognizable to any soldier or marine who was served. looking at that level of coordination, it's frightening to see just how close we came

to a coup in a year later. our democracy remains at risk. today, that risk isn't from a group of men making their way up the capitol steps but from an coordinated nationwide attack. tomorrow, the u.s. will mark martin luther king junior day. every year, we celebrate the life, work, and legacy of the civil rights giant. but tonight, on the heels of yet another voting right failure, i want to play these words from king in 1963. >> i think the tragedy is that we have a congress with a senate that has a minority of missed guided senators that will use the filibuster to keep the majority of people from even voting. they want the majority senate for. and sooner they would want the majority of people to vote because they know they do not represent the majority of the american people. >> now that tragedy king spoke

about almost six decades ago is still playing our country today almost down to a word. this weekend, kings family rallied in arizona, pushed for voting rights, home state of the filibuster-in-chief senator, kristen sinema. their king son, poked holes in cinemas reason for protecting the antiquated tactic. >> what is being done in all of these states? it's about the filibuster and yet every last one of the states that have passed these aggressive laws have done it with all republican legislators. not bipartisan. so that to me seems to be not a sufficient argument. >> and he's right, republicans across the country have launched a partisan all at assault on voting rights. in 2021 alone, look at this. 19 states passing 34 laws that to some extent restrict access to voting in this country. and there's more. at least 163 republicans who have embraced trump's big lie

are running for statewide positions. and those positions would give them authority over the administration of elections in this country. so what are democrats, you know the party who actually holds power in control in washington, what are they doing to counter this assault on our democracy? let's put it up on the screen for you. nothing. literally nothing. on the federal level, no concrete action has been taken to protect voting rights in america. that's because, to, all use kings words here, misguided senators, to misguided senators would rather protect the filibuster and protect the right to vote. in a 1957 martin luther king junior speech he delivered one of his major thoughts titled, give us the valid. and in that speech king called out what he described as a sort of quasi-liberalism. he said, which was based on the principle of looking sympathetically at all sides. quote, it is it liberalism so

bent on seeing all sides that it feels to become committed to either side. it is a liberalism that is so objectively analytical that it is not subjectively committed. it is a liberalism which is neither hot nor cold but lukewarm. and it's that lukewarm liberalism king warned about in 1957 that is infecting our country today. make no mistake about it. senators manchin and sinema are so committed to this that all sides nonsense are standing idly by their gop state flooded assault on our democracy. and, if there's anyone in this country that thinks that republicans in congress are going to sign on to a bipartisan, watered down voting rights bill, call me. i have a bridge to sell you. in 2021, georgia was one of the 19 states to pass new voter restriction laws. and now, ahead of the 2022 midterm elections, the state

republicans want to do it again. the republican leader of the georgia state senate promised to introduce a fresh batch of bills that could go even further than what we saw on 2021. joining me now to discuss this and more, georgia state representative bee nguyen, she's also a democratic candidate for georgia secretary of state. thank you so much for joining us. i wanted to start off by asking you, if i can, your reaction to what went down in washington last week. it was a pretty seismic week if you've been tracking the decline of our democracy. have you given up on federal voting rights action become it? look, as soon as we recognize our voting rights were on the block. having a two page bill turned into a 98-page voter suppression bill with the doors open in the version of democracy. we knew that it was instrumental, that we have to pass federal voting rights protection. we have also known here, and georgia, kyrsten sinema and joe manchin have been blocking that

effort. so i am not surprised her in the position that we are in. but i see that the urgency of this, we cannot give up. we cannot let our guard down. the other side of the aisle, they are not letting up. and as you mentioned earlier, amen, they are continuing to chop away at our voting rights. republican led a simple majority without any bipartisan report. some time is of the essence we cannot give up the right for federal voting rights protection. >> as a madam representative, let's talk about a little bit about your state. georgia specifically. those new proposals include eliminating all remaining ballot drop boxes discarding the states voting touchscreen machines and creating a constitutional amendment to prevent any future possibility of non citizens voting. what is the probability here that these could become law? >> you know, georgia republicans aren't slowing down on there is salt against our democracy. and i think we take every single threat seriously.

every single proposal seriously. we know the other side of the aisle it's a coordinated effort that is happening across our country. both in georgia and another state legislatures. and so i don't see republicans slowing down on their effort because they know that in order for them to install minority rule, they have to proceed with these voter suppression bill. they want to make a harder to vote without having any by both sides of the aisle and use by our governor. and because we know they delivered in 2020, 2021 we, have statewide elections because they don't have policies that support. they are going to do everything they can to be able to vote in 2022. but also they're setting us up for failure in 2024 but these election suburban laws that they have continued to push in our state. >> you know, i think a lot of

people may not have even known the position of secretary of state and what it actually doesn't are like since before 2020 because of what we saw in that race, you know secretary of state races are getting a lot more attention, a lot more fundraising in georgia, all the candidates have raised a lot more during the cycle than the current secretary of state, brad raffensperger did at this point in 2018. can you talk to us a little bit about the impact? what impact has this increased attention had on your campaign so far? >> yes, so, the average person may have not known the name of secretary of state in georgia or other states across our country but we now know this is a pivotal role. we also know that is not just georgia, it's every swing state, arizona, wisconsin, arizona, georgia. we know republicans are running a conservative effort, and nationalize effort, it is being funded by millions of dollars of dark money. and they're trying to install radical right-wing republicans

who don't believe in the legitimacy of the 2020 election. the front harder on the republican side, jody hice, voted against the certification of the elections. if they are able to install something like jody heights, who is backed up by the former president, that means that the state like georgia could be the deciding state for the election in 2024. it's exactly the type of candidate, who has, shown he's willing to overturn the will of the people and to certify an election. so these races both in georgia and in our swing states are critical state guards to our democracy, especially if we are unable to pass federal voting rights protection. >> all right, georgia state representative bee nguyen, always a pleasure. thank you representative for joining us. appreciate it. >> on tuesday, the senate is expected to take up voting rights legislations yet again. but with filibuster reform seemingly dead on arrival, is there a future for federal voting rights legislation? well let's ask our sunday night panel with us now, jeff bennett,

the washington chief and washington correspondent for pbs news hour. he's also an msnbc political contributor. he's brown, a communist and editor for msnbc daily. and the ceo of the new georgia project. great to have all three of you with us, he's, i'll begin with you. how do you see this week playing out for democrats? is there any hope, political hope for chuck schumer to pull this off? >> i mean, it was just one of the two. it wasn't just rome asked jim or kyrsten sinema. there's more leverage that chuck schumer and the rest of the democrats could possibly have against them. but given that it's two of them, given that they're so far apart in policy on everything but the filibuster. until this point, they've been trying to pass the build back better act, the giant piece of legislation that is supposed to be the cornerstone of president biden's economic agenda. but that sideline, that turn to voting rights, given how far apart sinema and manchin are on that, bill they will need their vote if they are appeared to

bring that bill back. they can't push too hard on them otherwise what chance is there of passing the build back better act? meanwhile i feel like the fact that they're going to go through with this, the fact that he is going to help this vote on trying to get around the filibuster, trying to pass this bill, forcing manchin to cast their vote with the republicans to keep the filibuster in place, that is going to be so damaging to the brands. i feel like it's going to be one of the main things they're remembered for. that is what people are going to remember them for if anything. >> so jeff, just this morning you admit that romney, on meet the press saying that the democrats voting rights bill would give the federal government too much power over the elections. let me play for you what the majority had to say in response. >> i would say to the senator, consult your history.

i have watched him over years, i am a bit disturbed. i knew his father. george romney had a much more compassionate view for the world that his son seems to be expressing. >> so, pretty personal, pretty sharp words there from the majority. but the question here is with that filibuster reform, democrats need republicans to pass anything as hayes brown just explained on so many issues. are there tensions right now on capitol hill? >> yes, and i feel a important contextual note to make is that the democrats are trying to push forward with the filibuster reform are getting a lot of attention because democrats obviously control all the powers in washington but the chief reason why voting rights legislation has installed in the senate is because republicans are in lockstep opposition. in 2006, the last time the

voting rights act had to be reauthorized, it passed unanimously, every republican senator at the time voted in favor of it. a number of, them are still there. so the question is, why not to have republicans opposing it? it's because republicans have decided, some of them have decided, to use the cover of donald trump's big lie to push forward with all of these depressions and diversion laws. and there's others who have decided that it's not in their political best interests. when you have more black and brown voters, when you have more younger voters. and when you have more first-time voters go to the polls. in georgia, record turnout. turn that state blue. and of course said that two to the state. giving democrats the margin they have not. and what resulted from that? we know that there was no fraud, but resulted from that was a hoax of a more strict election law. not making it harder for people to vote in georgia, in this

case, it's republicans, elected republicans into this process whereby the state election board could potentially be under the offices of the state legislature. the republican state legislature. and what that does, is that it takes a non partisan electoral process and makes it inherently political. and that's the real danger, democrats are fighting this asymmetrical war right now. where you have republicans making changes, as you mentioned, 19 states, 34 laws. that number affects it. and you have democrats at the federal level with that the needs of margins trying to make changes. and clearly they don't have the power that they need to do it. they need the votes to get that done right. >> i know that they use this analogy a lot. but democrats are showing up to a gunfight with a knife. because on one hand, as jeff was saying there, you know you have 19 states, 34 laws restricting voting rights. you have, as we outline representative --

stood by candidates and supporters in the big lie to take over positions that allow them to overrun or oversee our elections and possibly overturning the results of the not satisfied with them. democrats, in d.c., they're filling time and time again on voting rights legislations. what are you hearing from activists on the ground? i mean, you're doing the work on the ground. what is it that they need to get done right now in the absence of filibuster reform? >> well i think that tuesday's votes is going to be super important. i know that there's been a lot of conversation about manchin and sinema and who is the filibuster reform and whether or not there from candidate, montana or with us or against us. i think it's time to count noses, right? but we need, not just for history's sake but for the protection of voting rights that we need right now. so is it 48 senators? is it 45, i think that that

super important in this moment. i think that just allowing folks to hide behind manchin and sinema does no good in this moment. i also think that when i talk to other activists and organizers and ordinary voters and citizens who are deeply concerned about this bloodless coup attempt that we are all witnessing and living for right now, i think that there's a general consensus that just because the democrats and the president have missed their best opportunity to protect our elections, doesn't mean that it's the only opportunity. so, if the vote on tuesday doesn't pass, it does not mean that we can't come back. i don't think that we're going to let up, shut up about it, i agree with the president when he was in atlanta on tuesday. i'm tired of being quiet about this. there is no path forward for build back better. or any of the other domestic reform policy priorities if we are not able to secure the right to vote. and ensure that the will of the people is reflected in the results of our elections. so guess what? if republicans can have 50

votes, trying to get rid of the affordable care act. then we can definitely have more than one vote to try to protect the american elections. democrats encounter the same two issues every time, the only issue, why and always like to bring this, up the only reason why we talk about senator joe manchin and kristen sinema is because 50 republicans are absolutely no on any kind of meaningful voting rights reform. but their views have not changed, is it time for a plan b here? is their plan b to try and win over maybe two other republicans out there? or will they just say no on? >> i mean, to won't do the trick. i feel like for, or something of that nature. to you have to win over on democratic bill and that will probably not happen. being on board with the joe lewis -- sorry john lewis advancement act. even she is on favor of getting rid of the filibuster to pass that bill by itself.

she is not going to be in favor of passing this new expanded bill of the senate. we keep forgetting in fact that manchin has had the chance, she has been given the chance to round up votes for the freedom to vote act which is supposed to be the bill that she helped but together to win over republicans. she was not able to get any republicans on that front. so i don't know what's sort of slim down below you could fit to them that would still do the things that need to get on to actually reform voting rights and put a minimum -- floor from the federal level voting rights are for people as they go to cast their ballot across the country. >> all right, hayes brown, jeff bennett, and nsé ufot thank you for joining us this evening. oath keepers -- why this is so significant to the --

good evening to just some of the stories we are watching, making news update on the texas senate caucus. senior law enforcement official telling nbc news that two teenagers were detained in south manchester england by the greater manchester police. they are the sons of -- the fbi identified akron as the gunman responsible for the hostage the tuition. according to this official, a suspect was in touch with his sons at some point during the situation on saturday. officials in japan and south korea warning at least one suspected ballistic missile was launched from north korea this weekend. this evening rather. this is the fourth rocket filing since the start of january. north korea has been ramping up test of potential nuclear missiles designed to -- tsunami threat around the pacific ocean that followed the volcano eruption on saturday has begun to recede. the volcano erupted near tonga

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themselves the oath keepers were charged with the dishes conspiracy. they could face 20 years in prison. the doj is alleging that they coordinated travel across the country to enter washington d.c., equipped themselves with a variety of weapons, combat and tactical gear or prepared, they answered rhodes call to pick up arms that his direction. joining me now is betsy woodruff swan, she is a national correspondent has been reporting on january the 6th. it is great to see you betsy, thank you for joining us. in an interview with nbc news the attorney actually argued that prosecutors have not shown any new evidence to back up a seditious conspiracy charge, but there is so much detail in these charging documents when you look at them, you believe that if these allegations are true it shuts down any remaining notion that january the 6th was the spontaneous unplanned thing that just happened by the crowd that was there? >> there is no question. that is the whole purpose of this allegation. it reads almost like a

guidebook, or a map, to what happened on january 6th, and to why that day became so horrifically violent. it is a miniature look at people -- a large planned for this attack long ahead of time. arbitrated on purpose for the political reason of overturning the election outcome. there is so much in this document that is very interesting, one thing that i found particularly striking when i was reading over it is that it details how roads spends $40,000 from december 30th, until january 19th on guns ammunition, and other military related items. that is a lot of money for starters. it doesn't make clear where that money came from. it's a lot of money in a short period of time. what's interesting is that half of that 40 grand, he spent after january six. this is the dishes -- right -- this has laid out in the end of

doj's -- continue after the attack was completed, after the attackers failed to reach their stated goal of blocking the certification of the electoral college. that really drives, and helps understand why the capitol building was so militarized on january 20th for the inauguration. there is a lot of pushback that the level of security at the capitol building that they seemed dramatic. but the fact that you have something like -- stocking up on guns and ammunition even after the attack happened, while also according to the indictment, staying in touch with a legit fellow coconspirators about efforts to try and push back against the lawful election results, shows why u.s. officials were so concerned. it is a really notable quote that you mentioned from protesters tierney. it's interesting that he would say there is no new evidence, because this is the first indictment out all of the roads. additionally, what is laid out in here is stuff that he said

publicly including, people would be in the united states with military equipment nearby, they might take up arms. just because the stuff that you said publicly, does it mean the doj can't use it in court. it doesn't make this indictment -- >> yeah, and you made such, a series of valid good points there. i do want to go back to this one soundbite of road speaking on, i believe it was january the 4th or fifth about what he called the nuclear option when he was on steve bannon show. watch this. >> we have been already stationed outside d.c. as the nuclear option in case they attempt to remove the president illegally. so we have good men on the ground already, we -- last week and we are starting out staging and we will be there. we will be inside, easy also on the outside of d.c. ready to go and if the president calls. >> so that was two days before,

talking about a nuclear option, do we have any idea how far they were willing to take it? and what he meant by a nuclear option? >> that is a good question. my assumption, is that he meant the plan that he detailed there where the plans that they would execute. those are the plans they executed. they had weapons stored, at a comfort in in arlington virginia across the river from d.c.. they had people in washington at the capitol building. they also had someone at that comfort in who was texting oath keepers threw out the day asking if they had instructions. the way those text represented by doj wreath like this person at the comfort in an arlington wanted to know, when do i bring in the weapons, how can i be helpful to the situation, there was a lot of organization. one of the challenges to people in the intelligence space is distinguishing between hyperbole, people just talking a big game on the internet, and threats. people who are making deliberate plans to engage in

violence. that clip, it is hard to -- see kelly's deliberately it's sober minded when he's giving that, and it has a lot of specifics. the fact that law enforcement officials did not see that and use that as justification for the securing of the capital building is something that in retrospect still bothers the mind. >> yeah, and one of the things they have been saying through the hour's is that trump -- we haven't seen seditious conspiracy charges, we haven't seen this russian charges, we are now seeing is the dishes conspiracy and therefore that argument no longer stands. we have absolutely been to more severe charges against others, always a pleasure, thank you for joining us this evening. we appreciate your time. >> if you don't already know who mo amer is, will probably become a big fan after tonight. next a perspective from the stand up comedian and writer, and the awkward situation he

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so we greatly appreciate you making some time for us. but let me just start with what's the past two years have been. because i know it's been such a tough time to be a comedian. you're supposed to be performing in front of people. what has it been like? what has your journey been like as a comic during the pandemic? >> well i was incredibly fortunate. at this time, i sold my netflix show. i was writing the series at that time. the moment that the pandemic started. over that, it wasn't early experiment. i'm not sure if it was the first one or not. but experiencing that was interesting, of course. having the shows in hawaii that had so many standup comedians that came through. spending it there for three months. it was a once in a lifetime experience.

my pandemic was very different. aside from the divorce, it was very different. some people have babies, some people get the forces. >> and covid twice, you know. >> yes, two-time covid champ. just want to give it up. it was a scary time. i made light of it. a lot of people were affected differently by and of course. so just to stay conscience to that. but i was very lucky that i got through it twice. and i'm vaxxed. i feel like i'm done, i'm over it. i'm completely done. >> one of the things that i really appreciate is how you spoke about your personal experience. you started out as an american comedian following 9/11. you actually joke about it during a netflix special. saying, the conversation that you had with her brother that was telling you your comedy career was over following those tariffs attacks. and you had quite a funny response. i don't to give it away to our viewers, but you also not lived

through the trump era as a palestinian american. and you actually found yourself sitting next to eric trump to scotland. how much has your identity factored into the comedy that you tell? >> i mean, it's a major part of it, right? experiencing stuff firsthand. talking about your personal experience. it's so important. and i'm old used to who you are today. so it's staying authentic onstage, being honest is where it's a shot. and eric trump keeps following me. it's happened so long but it keeps tracking. i don't know when it's gonna go away but eventually it will. i hope it does, it just keeps coming back up. ironically, the trump era was very good for me. not great. obviously there's a lot to get into a held i handled many things. and how ridiculous the whole experience was. i feel like we're all casting a

reality show that we didn't know we were auditioning for. it felt that way to me. but it was very good. i think it was just the timing of it. all spending so much time in my career doing this. so eventually, it had to level of, right? >> well, listen, we all needed that comic relief during those four years. and so we're not on the back end of it. and we certainly still need that comic relief. >> the entire four years was the best comedy show on the planet. i would come home and my mom would tell me, like, you're not the funniest comedian. >> i was like, what do you mean, what are you talking about? she said there someone way better than. me i asked to. my mom's watching comedy? she said trump. trump is by far the best standup comedian on planet earth. and it's hard. >> yes, your mom is right on that one.

listen, i wanted to ask you about something that resonated with a lot of people like myself. people who have, you know, one foot in different cultures. both here in the middle east. you are passionate about being a texan at heart. houston is your hometown. you recently had a day in houston named after you. that's impressive. but you also talk about the divisions in this country and how your neighbor, scott the reckoning, you guys have a lot in common. he was there for you when houston was going through the hurricane. and you guys are out of power. do you think, what do you think about the divisions in this country? and how do you think that influences your comedy? >> i just wanted to give people perspective that was never seen on television. that is something that is very frustrating to me. somebody who's houstonian. and has an amazing neighbor. shut up scott. what's up. he's one of the first roles in

islamic is being neighbourly and there is no once more neighbourly than scott. he's so carey and just seeing that experience is always, get the mobile phones that if you're type of energy. but the reality is that this type of energy exists everywhere. and they need to start servicing more and more. and show a different side. because i don't think it's fair for both parties. i just think it's really important. scott's always been there for me. the guy is hyper prepared on any situation possible. this guys got generators, welding machines, walked him on him getting a gear. >> you struck out with the neighbor lottery there. it is something we could all use. listen, i wanted to ask you, because i mentioned this off the top.

you've got this new netflix special, you've got a superhero movie alongside the rock. you've got your own show. you've got a new season of grammy coming out. there's so much going on in your life. what do you look forward to coming out in 2022? >> vacation. be careful what you would for, what you dream for. no, it's all really overwhelming. and i say vacation because it's really going to take time to understand what disciplined over the last couple of years. and would have been building. i wrote the opening to my series seven years ago. so it's really sticking with something, keeping to yourself, building something special takes time. and to never give up on it and understand it's there for you to be released at a certain point. so it's timeless.

and that is something that's really special. of course i'm looking forward to the rock movie. who is not looking forward to that? working with the rock will be truly special. and that was super nice of him. he surprised the audience with a video message. it was unintended. it was his suggestion. who am i to turn down the rock? part of the deal, i have to wear his shirt all the time. you know, that's the only caveat. >> all right, special thanks to mo amer, of course you can catch his new special out now. when we come back, we switch gears and head overseas. a crisis in afghanistan is unfolding. millions are facing potentially life-threatening food insecurity this winter. we are going to bring down what you need to know about that crisis, next. u need to know about tha u need to know about tha crisis,

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the u.s. left afghanistan after a 20-year war, it took weeks for the country to fall into complete can almond turmoil. since then, things as you can imagine have gotten -- have gone from bad to diabolically worse. a nation is facing its worst hunger crisis since it began, according to aid agencies well over half the country's population are facing a hunger. that is more than 22 million people including 14 million children expected to suffer from malnutrition in this winter. 1 million of those that risk of dying of starvation. that's where families left to sell anything they have, including their own children believe it or not, just to get the bare minimum to stay alive. the un has just launched a fund raising effort, its largest ever appeal for a single country calling for five billion dollars in aid this year alone. now the u.s. announcing this week that they will pledge an additional 300 and $8 million in humanitarian assistance to

funding that they are already providing. but even once that money is found, the crisis is far from over. the country's finances remain in a stranglehold under taliban rule, that is because the united states and others have frozen the assets of the former government which are held by the u.s. federal reserve. it is worth about nine billion dollars. the federal -- bank's fear retaliation from operating in the country now ruled by the taliban. there is no arguing that the needs -- leaving the u.s. with little -- following the militarized takeover. but the lives of tens of millions of people now hang in the balance and time for them is running out. so what is the solution? we will discuss that next. solution? solution? we will over two hundred and twenty five million dollars to charity.

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went back last year to see how things are on the ground. tell me what it is that you found while you were there. what you are hearing about now, and just how about the humanitarian crisis is getting? >> so, when i got back it was pretty clear that what we've seen since the taliban seized power was a very sudden and rapid unraveling of the country's economy. practically over -- billions of dollars in foreign aid kept the country afloat disappear. the toll it took an ordinary afghans was astounding. from all parts of the country we were seeing massive lines outside of banks as people were trying to get access to their savings but were unable to because there was a cash shortage. yet importers who were unable to import things because they couldn't get lines of credit. the prices for basic food in goods skyrocketed. they laborers had lost their jobs. farmers were facing one of the worst trials in decades but we're seeing mothers and grandmothers who were already

severely malnourished. -- bringing them to clinics and hospitals around the country those were folks who would usually often have had stories of week for the winter, but because of the drought they didn't have that to get them through the winter. even the husband's lost their jobs. so they're bringing kids in trying to get lifesaving treatment, once those kids are stable enough they are going back to rural villages or cities where they had empty cupboards. that is what we are seeing right now. very very -- >> incredible. >> in a matter of weeks -- what we see happen over the course of years. >> yeah it seems like a dire, dire, situation. the op-ed from the new york times or the editorial board, they wrote in part this. besides calling on the u.s. government to help ease the pressure on the country, they write reasonable people can disagree about how much the

u.s. should give an afghanistan, but self interest dictates that americans -- think clearly about long term costs, small efforts now could avoid big problems later, such as another mass migration in europe. the war has been lost, but that doesn't mean every institution that americans work with is destined to disappear. there's still time to save afghanistan's central bank. >> i don't want you to weigh in on the op-ed itself, backswing to me as a reporter what has happened with the country's financial system, what is the best thing that the u.s. government can financially do to save lives? >> sure, so there's two things going on. the first is that when the taliban seized power the country was already in pretty bad economic -- yet each art that was gripping the entire country, one of the western decades. you had massive displacement from the fighting leading up to the taliban takeover. and you have economy that was reliant on foreign aid. suddenly see that 40 disappear practically overnight.

45% of the country's gdp, 75% of the government's budget. all the money that goes to doctors, hospitals, teachers, nurses, suddenly are that vanishes. at the same time the u.s. ethnic shun from taliban leaders her well over a decade, suddenly those leaders were now in power. so sanctions that were meant to target a few leaders of the taliban or suddenly having an impact across the entire country. the u.s. then froze 9.5 billion in assets, the country central bank assets which are being held in new york at the fed. they stopped cash statements into the country that helped keep the economy afloat because they are -- suddenly that stopped. and foreign banks also worked with afghanistan, fearful of sending electronic money to the country. they are worried about the sanctions. even after the u.s. fed made it

clear -- the treasury made it clear that those banks can work with humanitarian organizations to get money in, they shouldn't fear sanctions for working with the un, still we are seeing those banks fearful of any kind of transaction. so what we have is a massive cash shortage in the country, which is money getting, in so banks have very little money to get out to folks. -- aid organizations are struggling to get money and to provide aid. you have a banking system collapse as a result of maine as a result of -- >> all right, christina goldbaum the heartbreaking situation in afghanistan. we hope the international community can find a way to alleviate the suffering for people there. christina goldbaum thanks so much for your reporting, and thank you so much for joining us this evening. thank you for making time for us at home. you can catch me every friday on peacock at seven eastern, and back here on msnbc on saturday saturday and sunday that nine. make sure to follow us on twitter and tiktok at a men and

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