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after his partner was killed during a shooting over the weekend in harlem. we've got the latest on the violent crime wave sweeping this country, and what lawmakers and law enforcement are doing about it. we start this morning's broadcast with president biden warning that a russian invasion of ukraine would quote change the world. this morning, he is weighing new steps to make sure that does not happen. on tuesday, biden says he's considering hitting vladimir putin himself with sanctions a move the kremlin says would effectively end relations between washington and moscow entirely. on the military side, the pentagon is in the process of identifying 8,500 u.s. troops that could be sent to europe. the united states has already sent its latest shipment of grenade launchers and anti-tank launchers to ukrainian forces. there is still hope that diplomacy can save the day. political advisers from russia, ukraine, germany, and france are meeting in paris. the first time russia and

ukraine have held direct talks since the troop build up began last year. let's discuss and bring in nbc white house correspondent, geoff bennett, chief correspondent for the pbs news hour, and gary, a russian pro-democracy leader, a former world chess champion, a man who knows russia inside and out. michael to you first. the united states has been hitting russia with more and more sanctions ever since they went into crimea eight years ago. what has hand since then, russia has tightened its grip on crimea, and launched cyber attacks on the u.s. why would we think new sanctions are going to do anything. >> as white house officials have been laying out some of these potential new sanctions, economic sanctions, including cutting off russia's access to the swift banking system, cutting off their access to the global bond market, they're making the point that these are precisely some of the options that were considered in 2014 but left on the table, so these

would be sort of new measures that they could impose now that would impose even more economic harm on russia. you heard the president yesterday talking about the fact that he was willing to potentially sanction putin directly. also, white house officials are speaking to areas where they believe the u.s. has real leverage over russia's economy now. a new option that they have been discussing this week would be what they're calling novel export controls, limiting russia's access to advanced computing and semiconductor technology that they say russia needs desperately as it's trying to diversify its economy beyond energy exports. as the white house is laying out economic options, we're learning the president is considering giving a broader speech about what his view is about ukraine, and the steps the united states is considering. some of the steps which could lead to economic disruption at home. we talked about the white house yesterday trying to find additional supplies of natural gas for european, and might lead

to a reaction in kind from russia that could lead to higher gas prices. one of the reasons the president has not given this broader speech yet. we have seen him interacting with reporters and taking short q&as on this is because the situation is so fast moving and the concern is, well, putin might see a big speech on the president's schedule and see that as an opportunity to try to undercut him, make him look weak and act in kind. this is still an option that white house officials are considering but as one official told me, we're just not there yet. >> they got to thread the needle, gas prices go up, the american voter will not like that. gary, let's be honest, it sounds really tough and aggressive to say that the u.s. may sanction vladimir putin personally. but come on, how are we going to do that? i'm guessing at this point he has well figured out how to hide his money. you do not become a multi, multibillionaire while you're in government from doing the right thing. >> absolutely, but i don't think that's difficult. i believe that american

intelligence knows more than enough about putin's money, whether this money, it's under his name, which i doubt very much or in the wallets of oligarchs around the world. by the way, you already should recognize, we're talking about hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars. the amount of money that was taken out of russia during putin's 20-plus year rule is estimated at around $2 trillion. and putin definitely controls most of that, again, not directly. you don't have to sanction putin personally, but you know exactly how to make him feel essential. none of the sanctions have putin's interest. and russia's dictator doesn't care about ordinary russians. since invasion of ukraine, annexation of crimea eight years ago, germany doubled the amount of russian gas it has been

buying. from putin's perspective, sanctions is nothing more than lip service, and now it's the first time, first time, america is talking about real sanctions, and it's difficult because key european allies, germany, and france, especially germany, that is filled with corrupt politicians doing putin's bidding is standing in the way of that. >> so what can we do, gary? >> first of all, america should reinstate its leadership. what people in europe are expecting from america is to take the lead. >> what does that look like? >> first time in 15 years, since putin spoke 15 years ago about his plans to reinstate influence in europe, nato expansion, that's nonsense. he believes ukraine is not a real state, and he has rights to control former soviet union, and even eastern europe and so far america hasn't responded sizably, and only now we hear

america talking about taking a lead, and supporting other european nations like baltic state, poland and other countries unlike germany and france recognize the threat from russia. hopefully now america is talking business, and if we see the real plan, not just a few hints but real plan on paper. what will happen if russian troops cross the demarcation line, not ukraine border because russia invaded ukraine eight years ago. the moment it happens, america will respond and some of the sanctions could really hurt putin. you talk about export, and you should not worry about rise of gas prices america has plenty of resources to boost its shell, gas and oil production. >> mr. bennett, here's the problem with that, america wants to show the leadership. the messaging isn't consistent. biden has said he could send

8,500 troops to europe, but he also said this, watch. >> we have no intention of putting american forces or nato forces in ukraine, but as i said, there are going to be serious economic consequences if he moves. >> what's the point of sending troops, and then saying he won't send them. >> i think, steph, this is a reflection of the fact that the white house and president biden know they have a limited range of options available, and some of those steps the administration has already taken. they have already sent military aid and weaponry to ukraine. they've already continued to try to keep the lines of diplomacy open, with repeated talks between the u.s. and russia over the past ten days, and as it relates to this question of sanctions, not even the eu and the u.s. can agree to gary's point on how to broadly target the russian economy. on the flip side, though, one reason white house officials think sanctions might be the most effective tool in their

tool kit, as you know, steph, the russian economy has vulnerabilities already baked in. the state of new york has a higher economic output than does russia. california has a gdp that is almost two or three times bigger than russia. russia doesn't export anything other than oil, gas, and arms. they don't really create things that most people want to buy, and so to mike's point, as the administration considers cutting off, for instance, tech exports as a way of sort of pinpointing strategic pressure on russia, they're hoping that works, but this is all really compounded and complicated by the fact that president biden is dealing with an autocrat whose decision making is opaque. president biden spoke to this yesterday, it's hard to read the tea leaves. any other leader who would amass troops, you can glean from that what they would do next, not so with president putin.

the president walking this precarious line of trying to prepare by a hostile act by russia, given the white house has said an invasion is imminent without doing anything that would provoke an attack. >> putin, a mu kurl autocrat, represents a country with a puny economy, he's a wealthy man who does not care if the russian people suffer. i want to bring in nbc's chief foreign correspondent richard engel, he has the latest from inside ukraine. >> reporter: russia seems deliberately trying to keep ukraine and nato guessing, carrying out multiple military exercises, keeping forces moving so there's something of a shell game as the ukrainian military and the west have to watch russia and try to anticipate and predict. russia has mobilized forces to the north of ukraine, to the east and south and a potential invasion could come from any of all of these directions. now, outside of ukraine, small

countries that don't normally send their troops into combat scenarios, don't put their armies on combat footing. denmark is sending fighter sets to lithuania. it's sending warships to the black sea. spain sending fighter jets to bulgaria and warships to the black sea. france vowing to protect romania. while in this country, they're preparing far potential invasion from russia, from one or multiple sides, from the outside, nato is starting to move its forces east to protect against a possible invasion of ukraine, and to protect against the possibility that that invasion could jump over the ukrainian borders and spread deeper into europe. >> among many other things, here's what i don't get, if the goal is to put a pro russian leader into ukraine, aren't there a lot less overt and obvious ways to go about doing

it. putin is a former kgb agent after all, and this seems to be out there for all the world to see. >> don't underestimate putin, and by the way, speaking about the russian economy, it's new york, california, putin controls more money than any individual in human history. >> many popular, he built the most sophisticated network of lobbyists and agents around the free world. and attack the united states. so now putin has various options and he never stop having war against ukraine. we have the column in ukraine, a potential coup d'etat.

the plan was simple to use the occupied part of ukraine as a strong haul in ukrainian politics. and unfortunately, germany and france pushed ukraine in this direction, but they failed. the failure to control ukraine by political means through the corrupt western politicians brought putin to a new stage, and it's also belarus, and closer than from russia. and putin will not stop doing all things, but again, let's not forget, he has no block, and as long as he believes the price of ukraine invasion, he can do it. the only prohibitive cost of this war means going back to russia, and also crippling economic sanctions, real economic sanctions that will hit russian economy and putin

personally, and that may stop putin, and start him considering deescalation. >> damn, gary, you definitely didn't make us feel better but you got us smarter in the last few minutes. thank you all so much. we're going to turn to the january 6th committee, and we want to once again showout video that we showed you at the top of the show. you can see an officer, a police officer trying to keep protesters from breaking into the capitol before he was thrown to the ground. it was released by the justice department as part of a court exhibit for one of its january 6th cases. in the meantime, we just learned that conspiracy theorist, alex jones was deposed by the committee on monday. he talked about this on his radio show telling listeners that he pleaded the fifth nearly 100 times. why plead the fifth if you've got nothing to hide. nbc correspondent, natalie

vitale, what do we know about this, and remind us, why is alex jones important in the context of january 6th. he wasn't one of the rioters. >> it's surprising that alex jones showed up for the deposition at all. in december, he actually filed in a d.c. court to say that the january 6th committee shouldn't be able to subpoena him, nonetheless, he did speak with the committee yesterday saying he pled the fifth almost a hundred times, and here's why he said he did that. listen. >> the media tells you that's because you're guilty or because you're going to incriminate yourself but it's also because it could be used to incriminate you and twist something against you. >> you asked earlier why he's so important to this. the committee in the letter when they first asked him to appear before them said they had information that showed he was involved with the planning and funding of the rally. we know on the radio show he was urging people to the rally, saying that january 6th itself was going to be wild and quote

one of the most historic events in american history. they obviously want to talk to him about what we knows regarding that, but i think the other piece of that that's really stunning is on his radio show he talked about the text messages that the committee already had. they knew a lot before they even came to the table with jones. imagine that's the case with a lot of other folks they're talking to as well. gives us a sense as we wait for them to go into the public phase in february or march, they already know a lot, steph. >> and we'll be watching, and if anyone in your life, if anyone that you know is saying, oh, it was just another day in washington, they were just tours, show them that video again. and again and again and again. thank you. coming up next, a patient was denied a heart transplant after he refused to get the covid vaccine. why one massachusetts hospital ultimately made that decision. and overseas, uk prime minister boris johnson fighting for his political life as we wait for a report detailing allegations that he and his

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developing this morning, the biden administration formally withdrawing the covid-19 and vaccination testing requirements for large businesses following the supreme court's decision to block the rule earlier this month. here in new york, an appeals judge has reinstated the governor's mask mandate at least

for now. at the same time, omicron is still fueling a pandemic record for hospitalizations with some hospitals forced to make tough decisions like this one. in massachusetts, a patient was removed from the heart transplant list after he refused to get vaccinated for covid. joining me now to discuss tasha burns and dr. michelle mcmurray heath, a molecular immunologist and former fda official. this transplant story is getting a ton of attention. tell us exactly what happened. >> well, as it should be. >> so patients needing organ transplants have had to to meet certain medical requirements. now being vaccinated against covid-19 is one of the requirements that many hospitals in the country but some patients are saying no to the shot and being denied those transplants, watch. >> tracy ferguson speaking out because her 31-year-old son d.j.

can't. he's waiting on a heart transplant but is being denied because he won't get the covid vaccine. >> my son's in the hospital, and he needs a heart transplant. >> she says d.j. has been fighting for his life but he's been told he's not eligible due to hospital policy. >> i couldn't believe it, and then he said to the doctor, so you're going to let me die. >> she says her son is concerned about the side effects of the vaccine. >> he's not an anti-vaccer, but, you know, he's compromised. the mayo clinic listed on their web site, the myocarditis, and blood clots. >> in a statement, brigham and women's hospital say transplant programs in the united states, the covid-19 vaccine is one of the lifestyle behaviors required for the transplant candidates in order to create the best chance for an operation and the patient

's survival after the transplantation. that is common type of requirement for a transplant. >> before covid if you hadn't had your shots, they wouldn't do the operation on you. they would make you wait. they're trying to make the expensive procedure with a lot of rehab involved successful, this isn't some new issue about, oh my goodness, he won't vaccinate, we're going to discriminate about him. >> when it comes about concerns with side effects, whatever the risks of the shot, they're lower than covid. >> ferguson, a father of two with another child on the way remains in the hospital. he was in the o.r. for a separate surgery as we were speaking to her. >> his life is on the line. do you think he might change his mind about the vaccine knowing that? >> he might. he could wake up after his surgery today and say, all right, i'm willing to take my risk. >> do you hope he does?

>> i would want the doctors to treat the patient, not the policy. >> and stephanie, the ferguson family is not the first or the last to deal with this. in october, a colorado woman was denied a kidney transplant because of her vaccination status, and a man in the cleveland clinic had his surgery put on hold because of his donor's vaccination status. these organs are so scarce. people die every day waiting for them, and doctors are having to make tough decisions about patient priorities, we're going to be hearing more of those stories, steph. >> when i hear that story and i listen to the mother say she wants the doctor to treat the patient, not the policy. are we overlooking that the policy is there to best treat the patient? this isn't unique to the covid vaccine. as we heard, there are all sorts of requirements to make someone best eligible for a difficult surgery like this. >> you're absolutely right, stephanie, look, all organ

transplant situations are heartbreaking situations. they're difficult choices that health care providers are trying to make in a context of a very scarcely limited resource and that is organs for transplantation. the best thing that people who have sympathy for this story can become organ donors so the supply can lengthen. let's face it, there are many lifestyle restrictions placed upon patients on the transplant list that seem unreasonable in the day-to-day comparisons. weight loss, people have been denied transplants waiting for their weight to get in a certain range. all requirements are in place, you have the best chance to survive it. having had a family member wh had a lung transplant and died post that transplant, i can tell you how difficult it is.

and it's important that we look across the whole to make sure transplants are successful when available. >> these policies are put in place to best prepare patients to have successful transplants. doctor, i want you to help us understand, how should we read these new pfizer trials, clinical trials for a new omicron variant vaccine. let's say they come out with the vaccine a few months from now. why do we need a specific one for this variant, and what does that mean if we have been vaccinated and have the booster, how does this vaccine help? >> the most important thing to take away is this is incredible good news. when we think about the two years it took us to be able to generate this robust vaccine that's available and around for everyone to take against covid, the ability of our vaccine companies, like pfizer, to now produce very quickly a variant-specific vaccine speaks to the amazing advances in the technology. >> but do we need to take it. >> well, we will see.

they're doing the studies as they develop it. now they have the vaccine in trials. they're going to test whether it's better to have this new version versus a booster with the original version, and we'll have the real world evidence and the data to be able to say, you know, if this option is available, which option is best, and this isn't unusual. this is exactly what we see in seasonal flu each and every year. we make strain specific vaccines, and that's why people return to their flu vaccines every fall and winter. >> sure do. >> dr. mcmurray heath, dasha burns. thank you so much. we're going to turn to something you have got to see this morning. a new chart for morning consult asking the question, how worried are you about getting sick from covid within the next year. here's what is shocking. it appears to show that people who are most protected against the virus are also the most afraid of it. 2/3 of the people who are vaccinated and boosted are somewhat or very afraid of being

sick while only 1/3, this is amazing to me of the unvaccinated share the same concern. the unvaccinated who get so much sicker. a quarter of the unvaccinated, they're not worried at all. it shows how divided we are when it comes to the pandemic, and how much confusion there still is. that is why that is our chart of the week. also developing this morning, overseas, british prime minister fighting for his political life saying he's not going to resign. as we await the release of a highly anticipated report of allegations that government employees in the uk through parties at boris johnson's office while the rest of the country was on lock down. this has blown into a major scandal as police say they are investigating the parties. i want to go right to keir simmons in london. this whole story seems crazy. this much attention, these many resources into looking into a

party. is this just a way for boris johnson's political foes to get him out? >> reporter: well, they'd certainly like to get him out. crazy is a good description of the scenes in the house of parliament behind me today when he was questioned by the leader of opposition. that was where he had to say that he would not resign. that was where he was accused by one member of parliament of being a liar. you don't do that in the house of commons, and that member of parliament was made to withdraw. you can say other things like truth, you can't call someone a liar, you had to withdraw the allegation. that's the allegation being made around the country. one defense that he has had is that he didn't know that he wasn't allowed to hold these parties. steph, he's the prime minister. he's responsible for the law. it's just not an excuse f you like. another reason that they say is it was work events. his wife was there on one occasion.

16 alleged parties, steph. here's the crucial part of this. now the police are investigating. there was talk in parliament today about a criminal investigation. i mean, that's very very serious for his inner circle, so when you say why are they concentrating on this, others are saying, well, actually they're getting distracted by what happened here. and that is bad for the country with so many other things going on in the world, including ukraine, of course, listen, steph, boris johnson is the great survivor. he's quite a politician, can he survive this. that is the question right now. we're waiting for this report to be published at any time. how damming would it be. will his own party decide they just can't stand it any longer, steph. >> at worst, he's out of a job. at best, he's a major hypocrite. 16 parties while the country was on lock down. do as i say, not do as i do. johnson style. keir simmons, thank you, we will be paying attention. still ahead, the markets

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markets just opened with the dow up 200 points as we wait for big economic news this afternoon. that's when fed chair jay powell will brief reporters. interest rates could go up as early as march. consumer prices jumped 7% year over year in december, fueling calls for powell to act and try to bring down those prices. let's discuss. cnbc's steve liesman, and the fed knows they've got to raise rates, why wait until march. why not just do it now? >> you know, two ways, stephanie, first of all, people think the fed should have done it already and it's behind the curve and late catching up. on the other hand, the fed doesn't really have to do anything to make markets react. the fed made a pivot and said it was going to be more tough in

terms of removing stimulus from the economy, and markets have reacted. stocks are down on the nasdaq about 15 or 16% since then. but more importantly, interest rates have risen. for example, the 30-year mortgage is about 1/2 percentage point higher now. some autofinance rates are up. the fed has time to follow through on what it says, but the fed is powerful enough, all it has to do is talk and rates go up. it's going to be okay a little bit until it reacts in march and raises lates. >> mr. ratner, inflation is a problem not just here, but around the world. in our nbc poll, 61% of people say their income is falling behind their cost of living, cost of food, gas, going up big time. inflation is a huge issue for the american people, specifically the american voter. how fast could prices start to go down or could inflation start to slow if we see rates rise. >> well, effective rates on

inflation takes time to operate. you raise rates and people have to say to themselves, do i need to buy that new house, do i need to buy that new car. business has to say, do i need to go out and do a financing and buy more capital equipment. it's a long slow process, particularly when you're talking about rate increases of a quarter percent each quarter, that's a small impact on the market. i don't think you're going to see the impact of fed inflation soon. the question is whether inflation will go down of its own accord, a supply problem, port problems go away, et cetera, et cetera, that's what the biden administration is in effect staking its political future in this midterm election on. private forecasters, people like larry summers, myself, whatever, i think are not nearly so optimistic about inflation. i think you're going to see very substantial inflation, at least throughout this year. >> mr. liesman, let's talk about the markets. people are obviously panicked about these huge market swings but are we misinterpreting the fact that they are positive, the

fact that the fed can take this security blanket away and the markets and the economy should and could stand on its own. isn't that a positive? i mean, stocks will now get back to fundamentals. >> i think there's a lot of up side to the fed removing some of the stimulus from the market that artificially inflated both the economy and asset prices. you know, there are still, despite the selloff in the market, massive gains. if you happen to have been smart enough to step into the market at the lows of the pandemic back in march, you'd be up 90% still. the markets are off from their all time highs in a big way, but not so much overall. we do want to get back to a more normal economy. we need the fed to remove some of the stimulus, and it looks like parts of the economy, stephanie, are going to do pretty well. consumer spending should be okay because the unemployment rate is very low. wages, although they have not kept pace with inflation, they

are up. people should have money to spend, and it does look like the economy can despite federal reserve rate increases stand on its own. >> steve, you know economics and politics. how does biden thread this needle? we're in a strong economic recovery. unemployment is low. wages are up. as you pointed out, we are in for a very rough ride on the inflation front. >> yeah, a couple of things. first, i am slightly less optimistic than steve is about a so-called, what he's implying a kind of soft landing out of all of this. i think that we're going to have substantial inflation. i think people's real wages are going down, and as you talked about in that poll, that has a significant impact on how they think about everything, what they need, their politics, and so on and so forth. the stock market, i believe, is very much tied to interest rates. i think interest rates are a good part of the reason why we had those huge moves in the stock market that steve described, and i think as interest rates go up, it is not the friend of the stock market.

the biden administration is attempt to go position this, one, as a worldwide phenomenon, there's inflation everywhere and truth to that. not 100% truth but some truth, and we're part of all of that, and secondly blaming it on supply line problems. supply line problems have contributed to it. part of why we have supply line problems is because we have so much demand, and why do we have so much demand, because we've poured this massive amount of stimulus into the economy, unprecedented amount of stimulus, more than the new deal we have put in the economy and that's created this huge consumer demand which has created inflation, and supply problems, and all of that, i think, unfortunately, i say as a supporter of the biden administration, unfortunately is going to be problematic for the administration over these next months. >> then mr. ratner what should their narrative be? if raising rates is good for the economy but bad for the markets , what story are they supposed to tell? >> the story they have been

telling. you saw a bit of it at biden's press conference, one, this is kind of in the hands of the fed. the fed should do what it has to do to tame inflation. it's passing that off to the fed. that's not wrong. it is the fed's responsibility, and secondly, as i said, they're trying to blame this on external factors, worldwide phenomenon, they have stopped using the word transitory. if you look at their forecast, anybody's forecast, they essentially are for sharply declining inflation in the course of this year, i'm just far less sanguine about that actually happening than some of these forecasters and certainly the white house. >> every day voters don't really care if it's a worldwide phenomenon, they care if their lives cost a whole lot more, and they're not happy about it. mr. liesman, mr. ratner, we're going to leave it there. a second nypd officer has died after his partner was killed during a fatal shooting in harlem. what is congress doing to fight this violent crime wave, spending more on police, here's the problem. we're already doing that.

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. tragic news this morning, here in new york city, a second police officer has died just days after being shot while responding to a domestic disturbance call in harlem. you can see here a police procession for officer wilburt mora, was transferred to make his final sacrifice. he donated his organs. new york city is one place violent crime is on the rise, and lawmakers in washington are trying to do something about it. a new house bill called invest to protect would invest in police departments across the country. let's discuss. i want to bring in congressman josh gottheimer, a democrat from new jersey, and brian fitzpatrick, cosponsor and republican from pennsylvania.

what is in this bill, and level with us, what are the chances it actually gets passed because it doesn't really matter what happens in the house if the senate doesn't want to play ball. >> first, stephanie, our prayers are with the families of both officers who lost their lives in the last week in new york city, and you know, this piece of legislation is about investing to protect because we believe you can't define, you need to invest to make departments better and stronger and protect people in our communities and of course officers. there are 40 cosponsors, half democrat and half republican, to your point is a very good sign. this does four major things. one, it invests in training for deescalation, and domestic violence. really helps with overtime, especially for our smaller departments. it helps with retention recruitment, body cameras, for the cloud storage, which are very expensive for our smaller departments, and mental health resources for our officers.

you know, really this is about standing by our officers, getting their backs because they always get ours as evidenced in new york city. and brian, of course, is a lead cosponsor here, and i'm very grateful. >> congressman fitzpatrick, here's the thing, police budgets have actually been going up across the country over the last couple of years, and while those budgets are going up, so is violent crime. why is more money going to solve it? >> well, because, number one, crime rates are going up so police budgets have to go up. they're not going up commiserate to the increase in crime. what's going on, local municipalities, government officials are not showing law enforcement the respect they deserve, the funding they need, and in too many places they're putting the rights of perpetrators ahead of the rights of victims. that's why this legislation is very important that we step in. this is the opposite of the

defund the police movement. if you want reforms, such as body cameras, community policing, community training, all of which the fop wants, by the way, that costs money. reform costs money, and we need to support law enforcement officers under assault right now across america. >> that's the most important point, reform costs money. you need money to make our law enforcement stronger, smarter, better, and that's what everybody wants. congressmen, thank you both for joining us this morning. good luck with this bill. >> thank you. still ahead, an nbc news exclusive, after two years of remote school, lots of kids struggling with mental health issues caused by the pandemic. we've got an inside look at a new project that is working to get these kids help. t a new project th iats working to new project th iats working to get these kids help. how about a throwback? ♪ liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty ♪ only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty ♪

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now to one of the most problematic, unintended consequences of the pandemic. the impact on children's mental health. after nearly two years of remote schooling, trauma and grief, many children are continuing to struggling with emotional challenges brought on specifically by the pandemic. in fact, a new report says that there were more than 47,000 mental health visits to emergency rooms at 38 different children's hospitals around the country in the first three quarters of 2021. that is nearly 40% higher than the same period in 2020. well, now there is a new push to do something about it. nbc news got an exclusive first look at an important program out of california to help curb these staggering numbers. cynthia mcfadden has more on this project. cynthia, what can you tell us? great to see you. >> it's great to see you, steph. this is an important project. it was started by a $25 million grant from the state of california to the child mind institute.

and what they did, relying on techniques that they've taught no person to 60,000 kids over the years, is to put them on videotape, so that all kids can benefit. they're both in english and spanish. they involve a tremendous number of kids and experts and i think, all of us, including our children, can learn something about our emotions from them. take a look at part of the piece. dr. harold copolitz, who runs the child mind institute, the national nonprofit who produced these videos was eager to take skills they've taught, like deep breathing -- >> breathe in through your nose and out through your mouth. >> reporter: and mindfulness. >> try to notice what's happening around you. >> reporter: and make them available to everyone. >> our hope would be that not only does the average child get new skills, but if there is a child suffering, that they feel more courageous to raise their hand and ask for help. >> feeling that i have the most

is sadness. behind that sadness, then there's more sadness. >> reporter: jaden is 11 years old. he lives with his two little sisters and parents in los angeles. a lot has changed for him since he participated in the videos. he was diagnosed with adhd and has started taking medication. you know, you are so upbeat. ♪ upbeat, upbeat, it's time to get upbeat ♪ >> reporter: you weren't that upbeat when they interviewed you for the video. >> i got so pissed at myself once, i thought to stop living entirely. i can't be helped. i'm going to be trapped like this forever. >> reporter: jaden's mother tells us, she saw he was struggling. >> he was never really like an angry kid. you know, energy, and sometimes sadness, but not anger. and so that was a big signal to me that there was something else going on. >> reporter: of course, these new videos can't diagnose or treat kids like jaden, but the

hope is they can prevent things from getting worse. showing them techniques to identify, manage, and not shy away from their emotions. >> reporter: well, so, jaden, of course, is a terrific kid. it was fun to spend some time with him. there were 64 kids in these videos, and what's important is, while california paid for it, it's available to everybody. go to the nbc news.com website or today.com, you can find out all the details, how anyone, anywhere, parents, kids, teachers can all access these videotapes. and i have to say, steph, all of us can benefit from them. they are really proven techniques. they work in managing really rough emotions. >> i am so personally grateful for you bringing this story to us. i, myself, have worked at the child mind institute, my children have. it has been hugely beneficial to our family. so for people out there who can support child mind, please do. and if you need help, reach out. they are the best.

cynthia, thank you so much. really important story. that wraps up this very busy hour. i am stephanie ruhle. my friend and colleague jose diaz-balart picks up the breaking news coverage on the other side of the break. breakin other side of the break.

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