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the water one dead. tony griffin dead, bryson rose, dead, justin dechambeau six felt under. >> the issues are serious but colbert gets one thing right, a lot of the people pushing this stuff are complete jokes. thanks for spending the time with us here. it's been a busy week. i wish everyone a happy and safe weekend and turn now to "the reidout" with joy reid. how are you doing? >> good. thank you for the laugh. always good to start that way. thank you. have a great weekend. good evening, we begin "the reidout" with an american classic, "the catcher and the rye." the book was published in 1951 introduing us to the funny but troubled prep school kid and anti hero who was disillusioned with society who has a thing against phonies in the outer
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world, answer and alianation are prominent. "the catch and the rye" is controversial a favorite target of the censorship crowd. the biggest reasons for the periodic use of profanity and sexual references disparaged as anti white, anti family values, immoral. it was banned in 1960 and several more times after that reaching a fever pitch during the regan era for the moral majority. the religious nights national movement at the time. 1981 the year president regan took office. >> new efforts to ban some books from libraries. a new campaign after last fall's presidential election. >> most of the pressures that we are experiencing are being brought to bear on libraries by
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individuals that represent themselves and being members of the moral majority and fundamental ministers. >> what do they want removed? >> what they want removed is a who is who and what is what of 20th century moderate literature. >> coincidentally, book burning and banning happened to be staples of fascism and communism. the nazis did it, hitler posting and burning literature he considered dangerous along with the chinese communist party at the pot regime and pretty much everyone else who was terrible. cuba's regime banned books, radio channels and heavily interrupted access to the internet. wokeness is communism but book banning isn't? make it make sense. it is literally another case of everything old is new again because this exact tactic has hijacked precedent day american
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politics. just like back in the '80s, the great parent revolt is shaped by some so you think this is about regular moms and dads advocating for their kids. strip off that vineer but it's about riling up white voters but also about distracting the voters because distraction and slide of hand is basically what modern republican politics is all about. i mean, it sure ain't about governing, it about selling white grievance and rage that produces a tax on asian-americans and jewish people and on our capitol, rather than fight inflation let's howl over critical race theory and instead covid relief, it's give them orange tore distract from the fact that people have hit the pandemic rock bottom, that they can't afford a hospital visit or don't
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have safe roads and clean drinking water and bridges that don't fall on them which is the point democratic state representative made when one of these white discomfort bills was approved by a republican controlled committee this week. >> people are struggling. they are living paycheck to paycheck. a lot of them don't have a paycheck. and so instead of addressing systemic poverty, instead of addressing all these issues that impact people's quality of life, we are using these distraction tools. i am an american, and my voice matters just as much as your voice. my opinion matters just as much as your opinion. my reality matters just as much as your opinion and you can't handle the truth. >> joining me now is the florida state representative you just heard, ramon alexander and joyce
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vance, former u.s. attorney and advisor to the dnc and dccc. thank you for being here. representative alexander, i watched an eight-minute read where you read the rest of the people on the other side of the aisle and it was riveting. it was shared a lot. i saw it first on social media because people were really transfixed by it. it was said a lot of y'all on the other side are scared to vote. did any of your colleagues on the republican side after what you said and after that hearing, did they come up to you? did they say anything to you? what was their reaction? >> absolutely, joy. thank you for having me. it's been a reoccurring theme in the state of florida. these culture wars have distracted us from real issues that impact people every single day and there is also a reoccurring theme with my republican colleagues being frustrated with many of the
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agendas and the distraction tools pushed by governor ron desantis auditioning to be the next president of the united states. absolutely got several of my colleagues reaching out to me expressing their frustrations with the bill and many agendas being pushed by the republican party and leadership. >> so why don't they get-togethers, stand together and stand up to that leadership and stand up to ron desantis? >> they're afraid of the radical right that hijacked the republican party. it fake conservatism. you talk about the radical culture wars that continue to manifest by desantis and their entire agenda. when you look at the fact the last of four gubernatorial elections have been decided by 1 11 -- 1% of the vote. they're continuing to feed red meat to the base to hold on because when you look at the
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corridor and orlando and tampa, the shifts are significant and they're distracting from the everyday issues and trying to trying to hold on. >> joyce, let me bring you in. you've talked about it on television. lost a family member to the rage and anti institutional rage that permeated our politics. i may be the granny on this panel but i'm old enough to remember the '80s era about the same vibe trying to ban folks, the moral majority was really pushing and they said a lot of same things this is anti white and reversed discrimination and white people are under attack. if it was that same vibe regan not coincidentally used to his advantage in his campaign in
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1980 when mississippi was a swing state. this is not new. why do you suppose republicans have gone back into that well? >> it's not new and i think you're smart to point that out because the real problem here and representative alexander said it far more eloquently than i can say it. i was riveted by his eight-minute speech posted on social media. he said we're so much better than this and my fear is although i'd like to believe him. i'd like to be the positive person and with this movement in the republican party, they're willing to appeal to people's worst instinct to lock up the vote. american democracy has to mean more than that and the language of this florida bill, which tries to prohibit teachers from teaching and look, let's not put
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too fine of a point on it. the terms of the bill are neutral but this bill is really about teaching slavery. we know that from some of the comments the legislators have made and the notion that you could learn about slavery in a meaningful way without feeling uncomfortable, what kind of an education would that be? local papers in florida reported that one of the bill's sponsors indicated that teachers could talk about the three-fifths compromise, that 1800s rule that said that black people counted as three-fifths of a white person but teachers wouldn't be able to opine that bill is morally wrong so this is promoting the worst instincts in society to panldpanlder to voted we should know that's wrong and we have to do better. >> there is wrong and what is permitted under the constitution. i'm so glad to have you here as a legal voice, as well. how is this not coercion against speech? how is any of this lawful under
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the first amendment, joyce? >> i would expect that bills like this and i think that there are now bills pending in more than 30 states. they have different character but essentially they do the same sort of thing we saw for instance in tennessee where a local school board decided to ban "mouse" a graphic novel about the holocaust. we'll see a lot of challenges. we'll see civil rights groups and parents and perhaps the federal government to intervene to stand up for the first amendment rights of children who are being educated. the florida bill also speaks to education in the workplace and once that's an effort to avoid the diversity trainings that help businesses build more inclusivity. so i think we'll see a separate level of legal challenges there but legal challenges are slow. >> yeah, but i think they have to happen. curt, let me bring you in. it's not 30, it's 70. there are more than 70 bills pan america said in the first three weeks of 2022, more than 70 of
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these anti wokeness, anti education, anti history bills filed in 27 states seeking to regulate how they teach about race, history and sexuality in schools and if you go to in texas, this attempt to target some 850 books that one texas lawmaker has said might make students, meaning white students feel uneasy, there is a theme to them. 62.4% of these books pertain to the lgbtq community, 14.1% pertain to sex education and 1.3% pertain to race. there is a rime and reason to this that is not different from the 1980s when i was in high school. and to your thinking as somebody who was a republican and was on the strategic side and poitical side, do republicans think by doing this, do they understand they're not expanding the electret? do they care they're taking their concentrated small electret and enraging it in ways
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that become dangerous and drive people toward anti social behavior, even violent behavior? >> no, they don't, joy. this is also a reason why the republican party is bending over backwards to limit who can participate in elections because they know this way, this way ensures that their party will never grow. their party will get smaller. you and i know when the playing field is equal, there is more of us than there are of them. well, they know that, too. that's why they're doing this whole thing in the first place and the representative was 100% right when he pointed out in the amazing speech that they're doing this because they don't want to talk about why there is income inequality and don't want to talk about why the quality of life isn't going up for a large amount of people yet, people continue to vote for them. they don't want to have that conversation. this is a magician and distraction. smoke and mirrors so people don't realize the reason why their standard of living isn't going up, it because of republican policies. when your taxes are too high and
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billionaires are getting tax breaks because of republicans. when you don't have clean air, clean water, republicans gutted regulations. republicans are scared to death in engaging in the issues and why the president in this press conference pointed out what are republicans for? the media needs to step it up and do a lot better here. they need to understand what colors all of their rhetoric, what colors all of their opposition to overwhelmingly popular policies is race and not including that context in the coverage of things like infrastructure, build back better, voting rights, not incluing that context is a disservice to millions of americans. >> and money. we'll dig more into the funding and the organizations that are funding these efforts because this is not just grass roots. let me read for you representative an op ed written in the dallas morning news by students. a high school freshman in new jersey wrote adults who want to
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ban school books don't understand how we students read them. it seemed to me that the removal of the "catcher and the rye" one of the books would do more to block the lessons learned by holden than protect students from anything else. literature such as "ruby bridge's this is your time" are staples of childhood and my journey and discovering my voice. these books are the ones that truly prepared me for the real world and challenges. have you heard from any students representative alexander and how they feel about the attempts to ban books? >> joy, there is an outpouring from students throughout the state in regards to this issue at hand and the consistent culture wars bing purported by the republican party. they want to be in an environment where they can critically think and make their own decisions. i have hope for the next generation they're focussing on issues and quality of life and
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focussing on being bold and courageous towards addressing the future issues of our state so yes, there is an outpouring and that momentum is going to pour into the 2022 elections and speaking to the power and making sure that our future is not hijacked by ambition by governor ron dedesantis trying to compet with texas. >> thank you for your voice ramon alexander. you riveted the world with what you said and it was 100% true. >> what was most amazing about -- i'm sorry, what was most amazing about his entire speech is multiple times in that, he was interrupted by the republican chair of the committee trying to dictate and detail what he could say and the grace you showed representative, i really don't know how you did it. >> agree. >> same here. i will co-sign that. thank y'all very much. up next on "the reidout" a new round of subpoenas are
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issued today as the january 6th select committee tries to get answers about the phony slates of trump electors. jamie raskin joins me plus. >> in some sense, this is trying to save a part of his legacy with those of us who don't want to look at it because it's too painful to look at allegations of assault and rape but we have to look at all of it in my opinion. >> my conversation with w.kamau bell on his series on "the rise and fall of bill cosby." president biden's infrastructure over republicans in congress shamelessly taking credit for the infrastructure bill they voted against. plus, who won the week as "the reidout" continues. don't go anywhere. reidout" continues reidout" continues don't go anywhere.whole lot of g with farmers policy perks. [echoing] get a quote today. ♪ we are farmers. bum-pa-dum, bum-bum-bum-bum ♪
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today the committee on january 6th subpoenaed 14 of the 84 fake electors who tried to falsify the results of the 2020 election in seven states. compelling them to provide
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documents and testimony in their on going investigation. it's already become apparent that many, if not all of the fake electors likely broke the law. they reportedly did so at the behest of the trump campaign to forge sign and submit bogus election certificates claiming trump won their states. this has all the hallmarks of conspiracy to commit election fraud. today chairman bennie thompson said quote, we believe the individuals we subpoenaed today have information on how these so-called alternate electors met and who was behind the scheme. those 14 subpoenas that include the two highest ranking fake electors in each of the seventh states where they submitted bogus election certificates and each subpoena letter points out the existence of these proputted votes was used as a justification to delay or block the certification of the election during the joint session of congress on january 6th, 2021 and axios is reporting
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one of the fake electors was wisconsin former gop chairman plans to cooperate with the committee's investigation. separately nbc news confirmed late today the committee also subpoenaed trump's former white house spokesman. joining me is congressman jamie raskin from maryland and a member of the select committee to investigate january 6th. thank you congressman raskin. let's put up the name of the subpoenaed fake electors. you subpoenaed 14. the committee subpoenaed 14 of them but many of them. >> these people were the ringleaders if you will. they organized the slates in the pivotal place. if you go into a polling place and represent yourself as a voter and you're not a voter in order to vote, that's election fraud and people go to jail for that. these people are representing themselves as electors in order to essentially overturn the whole popular vote total in the
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particular state and sequence that was under taken in ordinary tore get mike pence to be able to say as a pretext, there are competing electoral college slates i'm going to return the electors there by lowering biden's electoral college vote total from 306 to below 270 kicking it into the house of representatives contingent election where i would be voting not one member one vote but one state, one vote and the gop had a majority. 27 state delegations although, i think the at large elector from wyoming would not have voted with them but still, they would have 26 and at that point declared donald trump president. he would seize the presidency under that plan and that was part of that sequence of fraud against the republic. >> so now, and that is a narrative i think has become very clear, right? based on what we seen happen and
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what we've learned from what we've heard from what is coming from the committee and it seems to be that the one question that remains is that trump knew that was the plan. increasingly, people like boris epstein have been on this air with aari melber admitting i knw that was the plan. there were multiple memos that seem to say, yeah, this is the plan. let me play for you just walk you through a little bit of what trump seemed to understand. let's just go. this is cut four for my lovely team here, my director. on january 5th, trump is tweeting the vice president has the power to reject fraudulently chosen electors. on january 6th, he tweets all mike pence has to do is send them back to the states and we win. january 6th at 2:27 p.m. with the carnage having already, you know, on going, mike pence didn't have the courage to do what he should have done, that's a threat when you have violent
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people attacking the capitol. the "wall street journal" reports before the rally, mike pence told donald trump that he lacked the -- mike pence told donald trump he lacked the constitutional authority to block electors from being counted and the president was furious and he said i don't want to be your friend he told pence. i want you to be the vice president. and my last thing i want to do for the ellipse on the seize of the capitol on january 6th. >> i hope mike is going to do the right thing. i hope so. i hope so. because if mike pence does the right thing, we win the election. we have come to demand that congress do the right thing and only count the electors who have been lawfully slated and mike pence i hope you're going to stand up for the good of our constitution and for the good of our country and if you're not, i'm going to be very disappointed in you.
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>> it seems to me impossible for this investigation to proceed without subpoenaing that guy. is he going to be subpoenaed? >> well, first of all, the public record as you've just shown it with the tweets with his statements makes very clear what donald trump was up to, the whole name of the game was to put pressure on pence to do the right thing by which trump meant step outside of his contusion role and declare unilateral unconstitutional powers to reject the college votes essentially to declare himself a mini dictator for the purposes of allowing donald trump to seize the presidency for the next four years. so, you know, i'm not going to speak for the committee, joy, i'm just one member of several but i will tell you that when i was the lead impeachment manager, i sent a letter directly to donald trump telling him to come and testify because he was putting facts into
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controversy but not doing anything to back them up and that if he didn't show up, we would draw every negative adverse inference against him for not showing up, which we have a right to do in a civil trial and this is a civil case, as well. if donald trump doesn't show up, we're going to resolve every adverse inference against him. he owes us his testimony. there is no position in our constitutional consolation called former president or ex president that gives you any immunity or exception from following the law. you're another citizen and you have the obligation to render truthful, honest testimony to the sovereign when we come calling. that's the representatives of the people in congress. >> i want to note for our audience, yesterday we spoke to new mexico attorney general that said yes when i asked whether he believes that those who could participate in the fake electors scheme potentially could have broken a law in terms of
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seditious conspiracy. i'll table that and i want to ask you about something else. apparently, we talked in the previous segment about banned books and i understand from my producers, one of your books is included in the banned books in one state or another, can you please illuminate us on that? in texas? >> the gop in texas is trying to ban a book i wrote, ironically called "we the students" in public schools. one of the books in there, one of the cases in the book that they should read before they ban my book is called "board of education versus pico" where the supreme court struck down the public schools from public libraries because someone disagreed with the content of the book. my book was sponsored by the supreme court historical society. we the students and the republicans want to ban it in texas right now. >> of course, they do. very quickly, we're out of time.
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public hearings, march or april? do you know which? >> more likely to be april. i hope it will be in april and won't push over into may. i mean, we're making great progress except for the aides around donald trump. >> yeah. congressman jamie raskin, thank you so much. appreciate your time and hope your book -- people, pick up the book, thank you very much. tune in sunday, february 6th at 10:00 p.m. eastern for the premiere of the new msnbc documentary "love and the constitution" following congressman raskin has he battles to save administration. >> i spoke with comedian w. kamal bell on show time. we need to talk about cosby and we'll show you that next. talk we'll show you that nextw. kama bell on show time. we need to talk about cosby and we'll show you that next. . kama. we need to talk about cosby and we'll show you that next. talk we'll show you that next new chapter. wellness well done.
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a lot of people know because you can't do what hi did unless you have other people support whag you're doing. >> just talking about how to drug women. >> beautiful women lined up outside of his dressing room. >> what did you think was going on? >> he looked at me and said fooled them again. >> you don't often learn your hero is the worst sort of villain. >> this is a sad day in the history of black culture. >> from "america's dad" to alleged sexual predator, bill cosby is accused by 60 women of a variety of offenses including sexual groping and sexual assault and rape. he was the first celebrity to be tried and convicted in the me too era and after spending three years in prison, he was released last year after the pennsylvania supreme court overturned his 2018 sexual assault conviction ruling that cosby's due process rights had been violated. a new show time docuseris the
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struggle those of us grew up cosby, facing his disturbing legacy. joining me now is the director, comedian w. kamau bell. what is the reaction to the fact that you done it, not that people haven't seen it yet but to the you did it? >> i mean, there is two buck e9s -- buckets of reactions. finally we're having this conversation and you specifically to come out to be the person to do it and other people that i'm a black man tearing down another black man and there is no reason to do this and it's a hit piece, which it is not if you watch it. it is not a hit piece. >> yeah, i have to read the statement by bill cosby's spokesperson and long time spokesperson who did slap you. called you a p.r. hack, you're a comedian. it says part of the statement says mr. cosby continues to be
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the target of numerous media that have far too many years distorted truth intentionally despite media's reports of allegations of mr. cosby. none have been proven in any court of law. the problem with that kamau, the convictions were thrown out but he spent three years in prison because a judge and jury lifted the case and found these -- some of these 60 odd allegations credible. what do you make of the constant denial? >> i mean, that's the way he's framed this from the beginning. there is talk of it being some people have called it a quote unquote lynching or that they're coming to take a black man down and while understand america's history of racism and present racism is trying to take black men down. in this case, i believe this black man did what he's accused of. in the deposition unsealed, he says talking about andrea
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constand as she was passed out, i entered the area between permission and rejection and i'm not stopping. he is talking about a drugged woman. >> you know, on that part, you're a comedian so and comedians have started to come out and say look, in our world, your world, the world of comedy, people knew cosby was doing these things and people in your documentary say look, you can't have done this if there weren't people that knew you were doing it and getting away with it. going back to the '60s. i don't know if you feel this way but when i go back and think of the comedy my mom, we watched with my mom, right? we all found bill cosby to be hilarious. his standup routines played on tv was hilarious but you sneaked in there seemed to be cosby hiding in plain sight, making jokes literally about drugging women, spanishfully. -- spanish fly. that his go-to joke.
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he was so culturally important to us we were ignoring it? >> to be clear, this is about cosby but this is bigger than bill cosby. lots of powerful men have gotten away with sexual assault and rape of women and sort of haven't been that closed about it and we sort of had to really like say what are we looking at? we have to pay attention here. i think bill cosby got away with it so long why do we need to hide it? >> you talk about the fact he was the first out of the box in 1960 as a black man doing standup and getting national credit for it and he kind of came behind him but then was more successful commercially because he stripped the race talk out but the things he did and created we grew up watching to the cosby show that presented blackness and black family and black people in such a positive light, like that was his legacy. that's the thing he did that in many ways made it possible to
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elect a barack obama, right? because people can see black folk in a different way because of the way he did things. what do you think in the end his legacy, how does that balance for you wind up sort of, you know, sorting out because his importance to the culture is hard to not acknowledge it but this thing he's done to so many women is like hanging there with a cloud over him. >> for me this doc is about reckoning with it. we turn to a math e case was there more good than bad? i'm trying to look at all of it there are good things he did because he refused to do a stunt and that changed history. you can't separate the two. this is trying to save a part of his legacy with those of us who
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don't want to look at it because it's painful to look at assault and rape. >> there is a scold of black people because that's the other part. how ironic is it for you this man, the corn bread speech -- >> pound cake. pound cake speech. >> turns out to be this. yeah. the pound cake speech. >> i mean, i think that's what ultimately was part of his down fall is said how can you do that with all these other stories out there? that was part of the stories exposed because people felt it was such -- so much hypocrisy they count deal with it. jelani cobb speaks to that. this is a documentary still talking about bill cosby was our teacher and we need to learn from him to create a society
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safer, more nurturing. >> those who said you're just the man to do this. they were right. the four-part documentary, we need to talk about cosby," very brave of you and really important for the culture. appreciate you, man. >> thank you, joy. well, who won the week is still ahead but first, president biden visits the site of today's bridge collapse in pennsylvania during a trip toting his infrastructure plan but guess who else is trying to take credit for that bill's success despite voting against it? this is an easy one. you got this. we'll be right back. easy one. you got this you got this we'll be right back. when caught in early stages it's more treatable. i'm cologuard. i'm noninvasive... and i detect altered dna in your stool to find 92% of colon cancers... even in early stages.
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florida senator rick scott was front and center earlier this week when it came time to announce funding for the state of florida receiving from
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president biden's infrastructure bill. the problem rick scott is far from the only one to pull this. many republicans across the country are taking credit for the money going to their states like ashley henson, she called the bill washington gamesmenship and spending at its worst but then turned around to praise the money to modernize her state and louisiana's david duke without the baggage and said the spending spree was bad for louisiana but promoted and paid for by the bill. why? infrastructure spending isn't just politically popular but critically necessary. that was made perfectly clear, crystal clear today after a bridge collapsed in pittsburgh injuring ten people. it's one of pennsylvania's more than 3,000 bridges that are in poor shape. and it had been in that condition for ten years. president biden toured the site while coincidentally in the state to talk iinfrastructure.
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pennsylvania's republican senator voted against the bill calling it too expensive. excuse me. excessive this bridge collapse could have killed people. excuse me while i cough. i'm joined by charlie sikes and michael eric dyson. author of "entertaining race" performing blackness in america. i promise it's not covid. you know how sometimes you get a cough that makes absolutely no sense. that's what is happening now. i'll drink some water. not showing the brand. i'll let you talk charlie sikes. what do you think of the republicans that love that money that is coming to their states when they vote against the bill? . >> it's almost the perfect chief's version, you had 19 republicans with a number of governors that endorse the legislation and they can take credit for supporting this
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spending but the senators that voted against the governors that opposed it, you know, hell no. no way. i think this is one -- this should be a theme in the midterm elections. the contrast between fake and real. you want real. you vote for the legislation that fixes the bridges. fake, the people who posture send out the press releases and try to take credit for something they did not contribute to. i'm glad you put that number up on the board with the reality that as horrific as that picture of the bridge in pennsylvania is, there are literally thousands of bridges just in that state that are in danger of falling down. this is a real issue but again, you know, the fake politicians who are not actually interested in governing or fixing these problems need to be called out. it completely legitimate shot. >> well, i mean, michael, they're too busy these republicans screaming about fake critical race theory and schools
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and screaming about masks and vaccines but this is the opportunity cost of focussing on, you know, the politics of angry memes rather than the really popular poitics of, like, filling potholes and getting bridges built. >> they're mad at built back better but you can build that bridge better and infa fa structure and you're coughing because the dust from the hypocrites are filling your lungs. bless you for that. it's ridiculous. chasing red herrings, looking at rabbits as opposed to the real issues. how do we deal with streets? how do we deal with roads? how do we talk about environmental racism and asbestos and schools and lead pipes and the water in flint, michigan? are issues begging for relief. politics essentially defined is about the distribution of critical resources in a time of crisis to vulnerable populations and, you know, shame on the
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republicans, at least you used to depend on them for that. dad gum, they will show up and talk about the local roles and talk about the local projects they brought back money to support, now they don't want to do the real work involved and want to pimp the democrats and those who do things that are necessary to address the needs of ordinary citizens, and then right in on their white horses, galloping across their contradictions in ways that are just shameful. >> let's see if the democrats actually do what republicans would do and slam them in ads for being hypocrites. i want to play a clip for you, which you've probably seen before. and then i will let you respond. >> prejudice. -- >> i mean white man? >> i am white. actually, that is a lie to. i am kind of tan. and he was brown, not black. >> isn't that weird? the black and white thing is so
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strange, because the shades, there is such a spectrum of shades of people. unless you're talking to someone who is like 100% african from the darkest place, where they have not worn any clothes all day and they have developed all that melanin to protect themselves from the sun -- even the term black is weird. >> so, as the daughter of an african from the congo, used to show up at our house in -- and we were, like wow, you have nice clothes. i am offended just by that aspect of it. but your name was called, so i will let you go ahead and talk. >> well, here is the thing. first of all, he has a meters and, you jane approach to africa about the jungles. the goes to -- joseph khan rat heart of darkness -- shame on joe rogan, who is smarter than that. here you are talking about race and you don't know what you are talking about. you could read critical race theory that would teach you
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that it is not a biological phenomenon, it is not about inherit ability in jeans, it's about the degree to which a society in which we live gives us, imbues us with a sense of what race means. that is what it means by socially constructed. it does not mean that these divisions are not real, but they are created by the needs arbitrarily of some people, in this case, white supremacists, to project on to the rest of the world there superiority. to beat their chests. so, in this sense, talking about it doesn't make sense to talk about black or white, you don't even know what you're talking about. you have not studied race as a phenomenon in both america and the global situation. -- here you are trying to talk about trans identity as satanic, you really don't know anything -- i would be glad to go on joe rogan's podcast. he will not have a real brother like me, because i will break it down for him -- >> let me go on to the topic we
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talked about earlier. there is this book banning theme that i remember from the 80s when they tried to go after certain books that the moral majority did not like. i feel like it is a bit -- presumption on the part of republicans that their bases so easily triggered by racial topics and by lgbtq topics. we are essentially saying, our base is bigoted and we have to play to that. >> first of, all on the row -- joe rogan -- the only thing that i can say about that that is good is that they weren't talking about vaccines. the book planning is an extraordinary throwback. it's like we're back in the 19 50s here. and it does look like the contempt that just sort of assumes that going after a couple of bad words in a pulitzer prize-winning graphic novel about the holocaust is the way to really win support from the base.
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i am awestruck by the snowflake array of all of this. the people who said, well, we didn't care about -- apparently they met your feelings but not their feelings because they are very, very tender. so, to what republicans talk that -- legislation in texas saying, please do not just any facts that make us uncomfortable. and they think that our folks are snowflakes? >> i think they should all be in this position here because i think they all want us to suckle them. they are babies. i want to note that the great joe madison, after 74 days, and in his hunger strike for voting rights and i want to just commend him for really putting it all on the line for democracy. and i think that is a perfect segue into our next segment because charlie and michael are going to stick around with us and they are going to say hero of the week. god bless joe madison. hero of the week is next. e madison. e madison. hero of the
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but my weekend begins very, very soon, but first, you know we have to play -- oh, yes! our favorite game. -- charlie sykes, tell us. we are dying to know. hero of the week? >> okay, well i'm going with supreme court justice stephen breyer who left more or less on his own terms, but at least did not give mcconnell --
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but the reason he won here of the week is the speech that he gave in the white house, where he eloquently described what the american ideal was. and reminded us that ideally was a experiment and that it was up to future generations to preserve it. >> thank you, stephen breyer, for not pulling a notorious rbg and sticking around. you are absolutely right. good for him. you are up to the plate -- who won the week? >> i think it is stephen breyer moving aside, and the black women he made room for. black women have been the morality, the conscience, their intelligence has been high their spirituality has been profound -- we have every range of both site and every range of intelligence that you want. black women are the winners because of their deep intelligence, the profound spirituality and being -- at midnight with disappearing ink. that is what we do. vanilla vitality.
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we've got the whole thing. mocha magic and -- magic and -- sophia angela. olivia julianna. the kids from gen z for change. the young students in florida who tried to speak at this hearing. the young people, the youth, the tiktok kids of the week, they are fighting the power, and fighting for learning in, books because they are smarter than the adult who are trying to mess up education. thank you both very, much that is tonight's readout y'all, now all of y'all won the week. time for you to watch chris hayes, it starts now. k. time for you to watch chri >> tonight on all in -- >> you can have the power to reclaim your authority and send us a slate of electors that will support president trump and vice president pence. >> big news from the january 6th committee. >> we want to know who was behind this plot to overturn the election. >> reporter:

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