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of blood. >> police thought her boyfriend's behavior seemed odd. >> he gets to the law or -- >> people thought there was something suspicious about that. >> but, he had an alibi. >> did he try to point to figure out anybody else? >> he did. angela's ex-husband. >> the ex had alibi, too. >> he came off his very calm and collected. >> there was something else missing. >> we got a phone call. >> until somebody found it. >> they asked me if i'd be willing to come up there where wire. >> just one old friend talking to another. >> about a secret and she was dying to share. >> i think she was almost proud of the whole thing. >> the case with the biggest twist came after the verdict. >> wow. >> that was my response, wow. >> hello, welcome to dateline. working mom, angela wilder, dreamed of becoming a nurse.
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she was burning the candle at both ends to make come true then, angela was murdered. investigators suspected the attack was personal. just when they thought it was case closed, turns out it was not. so, they said an elaborate trap, hoping to catch a killer. here is -- >> it was dark, the great central plane. luminous in the early hours of that friday the 13th of november. the small light winds shivered on flat, deserted streets. and knit to the freezing little t that the ruins of autumn, in north dakota. was there a muffled cry, the sound of a car making haste away no one heard. not a thing. it's a modest placed, minot. modest in a good way. and on commonly friendly, comparatively speaking of course. >> it is comfortable.
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it is a family community. >> north dakota nice. maybe an old-fashioned phrase but it still fits. >> the people who have been around a long time, still greet each other on the street. >> as they did that chilly morning in november, 2015. when parents dropped off their kids at this elementary school. and where later, at my knots state universities school of nursing. professor diane shoal wondered why one of her students had not shown up for an 11 am exam. >> before we all started taking the test, i said, has anyone heard from angela? >> angela was this woman. >> my name is angela wilder. i'm a student nurse at am s u. i will be assessing your cardiovascular system today. >> she was just this sweet little southern girl. >> sweet little southern girl? >> yes. it was miss diane. and yes ma'am. and no ma'am. >> okay, i will let the doctor know and he will be in with you shortly. >> angela wilder, was in addition to a nursing student, a mother of three. who, just days before, had
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revealed to her professor that she was pregnant. >> did you have any advice for her? are >> well, we talked about how stressful school is. we talked about her not feeling well. and that is when i told her, yes she is expected to come to class. if she could not, she could call and let me know and we would make other arrangements. >> but that morning? no call. no angela. what's she ill? class was over, before one of dianne students dropped a bombshell. >>, she said, i think it was angela's house when i drove to school and there is police tape around it. a lot of people in hazmat suits. >> and indeed, it was angela's house. this little place, next to a lutheran church. across the street from that little elementary school. it was angela's fiancée, home from a night shift who called 911. >> i just got home. my back door is kicked in, and my girl is not answering the phone.
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my son is inside with her and everything. i am about to go in and see what is going on. >> okay, why don't you just wait for the officers? i will get them over there. >> so, the fiancée stayed outside. the officers went in. the house was neat, tidy. they found the two year old, unharmed. they went down the hall, looked in the next bedroom. and there she was, very dead. >> i did not know at the time exactly, how many times she was stabbed. but i knew that it was vicious. >> my police, detective sergeant, dave goodman. >> how many eventually did you find out? how many stab ones? >> somewhere near 40. >> and there was this fiancée. and you have a crime that looks like a crime of passion. what story did he tell about coming home? >> he reported that he had been at work all night. when he arrived home, and found the back door to the residents kicked open. he said, he was obviously concerned about that. >> if that was me, i think i would have rushed in there to see what was going on.
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with my family. >> and i say that to. of course, until you experience that on your own, i guess we do not know how any of us would react. >> still, good men's detective instinct kicked in. >> so what's if the dispatcher told him to wait? would a innocent, worried, parents do that? it was suspicious. why did angela's fiancée, chris, stay outside? and, had he really been at work all night as he said he was? they took him downtown for the first of several interviews. where goodman and his partner, detective, sergeant, chris systematize sized him up. his name was kris jackson. how did he present? >> he was calm, he was crying. he was upset, he was mad. >> where was he that night? chris said, angela drove him to work at walmart. dropped him off before 11 pm. >> and that kids are, and i say,
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i love you sweetheart, drive safe. have a good night. >> angela was nervous, he said. afraid to be left alone. >> why did he say she was anxious that night? >> the night before, she said, that she heard somebody messing around at the front door of the residents. she felt like she was being watched. >> so, said chris, he called and texted her repeatedly. but after 2 am, he said, she did not pick up when he called. >> and he figured that she had fallen asleep. >> but no, she was not sleeping. but who killed her? and why? when chris first arrived at the police station, they let him make a phone call. it was obvious, he had his own suspect in mind. >> richie is probably be piece of -- who did it. god, i hope they piece it to him. i hope so. >> richie? who was he. >> a pregnant young mom, dad. toddler nearby. an investigation about to lead
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fickle thing. like people sometimes are. is that why angela wilder's fiancée, chris was so angry? >> there was a history to this long before that november morning, in 2015, and far away from minot, north dakota. in alabama, angela met richie. at church, they were the best of friends as kids. after angela had a baby as a teenager, it was richie who scooped her up, married her adopted a little girl and before, long had a boy of their own. all witnessed by angela sister, crystal. >> she attended today guys who were funny. that were gentle, intelligent and really, richie was all of those things >> ritchie was in the air force. that's why they moved to minot, there was an airbase there that's where angela pursued her dream of becoming a nurse.
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>> she took classes whenever she could she could have up to two jobs at a time, and still attended classes, and take her kids >> why did richina and gilles's life long bond rupture? who really knows? but there is curdled into a corrosive, toxic anger ritchie was court-martial, convicted of domestic abuse jumped out of the military. the divorce followed. but then, like the prairie wind, their affections shifted. richie remarried a small town north dakota girl named cindy who moved to minot and became a kindergarten teacher. soon, cindy and richie had a baby of their own angela got engaged to chris, and she had another baby as well. these two new families all settle down again or they might have, except for richie and angela's nasty custody battle. >> she said he is just fighting me all the time it's been
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really hard with the kids. >> it was bad between those two scary >> i got a frantic phone call from her one morning, i was like, calm down, what's going? on >> she says, it's richie i just woke up, came out of my bedroom, went to my living room, and he sitting on my couch he looked at me and said, see i told you, i can get to if i wanted to >> is that what happened here? an angry ex-husbands revenge >> hello, are you? richie >> yes ma'am >> a few hours after the murder, after talking to angela's fiancée, chris. detectives goodman and multi's call russian for a top he didn't seem to know what was going on. >> i will tell you, angela is dead >> or really? >> yeah >> did he seemed upset by what it happened? >> he didn't, know >> that requisite? >> it did, yes >> he would have some reaction, it's a mother of a child >> that's what we would expect. >> their questions got tougher
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>> did he have an alibi? >> he said he did >> did you work last night? >> 7-eleven >> would you after you left work? >> -- can anybody tell us when you go to? >> >> that is his new wife, the kindergarten teacher. cindy >> who confirmed that when she woke up with the baby for the night, richie was beside her in bed. >> he was home, the three times that i was up. >> if that's the truth cindy, then that is fine. maybe he was home during those three times when you are up in the night. is that possible? sure, but what do you know about this? >> i do not know anything. >> so maybe the detectives could get something from the crime scene techs. who told them that angela had tried to fight off her killer. >> her fingernails were broken off. it appeared the assault had occurred while she was in bed and ended up on the floor next to the bed. >> your dna is not going to show up anywhere on her?
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>> now. it is not possible. i was not even there. >> going to show up under her fingernails? >> now. >> but they could not help but see, the scratch. >> what's happened to your face? >> where? right here? >> you got a scratch on your face. >> he had the story that he had been wrestling with his younger son and that's how he had gotten scratched. >> police also impounded two cars driven by richie and his wife. and in one? a small spot of something. dark brown, on the inside of a door. >> visible to the naked eye. but not obvious it was blood. but enough suspicion for them to go ahead and collect that. >> and when the lab called back a few weeks later with news? well, it was quite a moment. >> we were excited. we could not believe it. >> that spot in richie's vehicle? it was indeed, blood. angela's blood. >> we ended up standing up
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during that conference call and hugging, we were so excited to get that news. >> but no arrests, not yet. not until more results came in on material found under angela 's fingernails. >> about a week later, we heard back on the fingernail clippings. that came back to richie, we said okay, let's go get him. >> and so they did. >> we found him at a local gym in town. i said i have an arrest warrant for you in the murder of angela. >> richie wilder junior was charged with murder. he soon pleaded not guilty. >> we offered an interview to him. he did not want to talk, and he went to jail. and then, >> a couple of months later. >> richie do you remember us? detective mai tai's detective goodman. >> richie asked to see the detectives again. because he was finally ready to tell the truth. and blow the whistle on his accomplice.
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kept stabbing her. >> richie wilder had a news story. a new and shocking story that put him and his ex-wife, angela's bedroom. the night she was stabbed to death. but did he kill her? oh no, richie said. but who did? richie was finally ready to reveal the secret. to point the finger at the very man who had accused him. the killer? was angela's fiancée. chris. >> i said what's the -- are you doing man? >> but, to start at the beginning. richie said that chris found out angela was cheating on him as he worked his night shift at walmart. he wanted to catch her in the act. proof that she was an unfit mother. so they, chris and richie, would win custody of their respective kids. sounded good to richie. so, friday november 13th, doug to 15 am. richie told us that he picked chris up from walmart and drove him to the house.
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they were supposed to catch her in the act of cheating on chris. >> when we open the door, it looked like there was two people in the bed. and when we pulled off the cover, i notice that was not a person. it was a body pillow. >> but maybe chris did not understand that, said richie. because he went crazy and started stabbing her. >> and i touched her neck to feel a pulse, because she was kind of -- as i touched her pulse, she leaned up and scratched my face. i grabbed her hands, and she was just like, i love you. >> that was why his face was scratched, said richie. and his dna was under her fingernails. anyway, afterward, said richie, he drove chris back to work and dropped him off at walmart. >> where did chris ride? >> in the passenger seat. >> the same spot in the car where that blood was found. angela's blood. >> when we first interviewed you, richie, why did you not tell us this? >> well, one, because he kept threatening my family.
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he said if you tell anybody, i am going to kill your wife, i am going to kill your little one. >> it was quite a story. the only problem? walmart, where chris worked, had cameras everywhere. and it just so happened that detective goodman spent the night before, watching videos with richie. videos that kept witness of every movement, every minute. if chris left the store to kill his wife, then good men would not see him on any video shot between to 15 am and 3 am. >> every 5 to 10 minutes, we have him there at the store. we have him in the entryway. sitting down, eating his lunch. during the time that ritchie is telling us that he is stabbing angela. >> in fact, the only times chris briefly left the store, where his scheduled breaks. so he couldn't simply have
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taken part in such a game with ritchie? >> he could not have. and we knew that. >> good men held back as richie spun his tail. and then? >> chris did not leave walmart during those times. >> i know he did, i picked him up. >> i know he did not, because i watched him on video. >> and minutes later, richie wilder, his bluff called simply folded. >> you can stop anytime you want. >> i will stop. . okay. >> and so, when richie wilder's murder trial started a few months later, prosecutor kelly dillon was confident. >> i felt i had a very strong case. my strategy was to present the crime scene, presents the evidence and present richie's multiple stories about how this went down. >> straightforward enough. as richie listened, his wife cindy dutifully sitting near the defense table, the defense called people who told the jury about angela's blood in richie
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's car. about dna linked to richie under angela's fingernails. about the changing, self serving, stories that ritchie told. >> she like leaned up, and scratch the mess out of my face. i grabbed her hands, and she was just like i love you. >> up to that point, i was thinking that he might be able to convince a jury. but then when he got to the point when he said that angela sat up and said, richie! i love you. it was done. it was done for me. it is just such an incredible thing to throw into that story. it was just an example of ritchie needing to be the hero. >> what did he gain from killing her? what did he think he would gain? >> control. he wouldn't have to deal with angela any more. richie wilder, is responsible for angela's murder. and only richie wilder. >> richie's defense attorney
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countered that the murder weapon was never found. he suggested that ritchie was somehow, set up. >> [inaudible] and i asked that you find richie wilder not guilty. >> and the jury went out. and returned? in less than an hour. >> i have had simple theft cases that have taken longer. to decide, then this case did. >> we've a jury, find richie wilder, guilty of the crime of murder. >> guilty. richie's wife cindy resolved of tears in the courtroom. and then again later, in the hallway. >> he's a good man. he's a good husband. he would never do anything that would hurt his kids. none of it makes any sense to me at all. i know that i was home that night, i got up on a couple of occasions with my kids. when i got up, he was at home. >> sad, but still so loyal. keeping on clinging to that
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long destroyed alibi. not uncommon, really. for a spouse too refused to an except an awful truth about her man. anyway, cindy was left to pick up the pieces. her sister abby, moved to minot to help. >> i just felt like she needed me as a sister and she needed the support. i've been a single mom for years, i know how hard it is to do it on your own. so i felt like i was going to do wet i could to help her. to bear that burden, and to figure things out. >> and it helped. cindy went back to her teaching job. but even with abby there, she felt lonely. a certain kind of lonely. oh. >> coming up, growing suspicious about cindy. >> was she inside the house? was she involved in this?
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happening the tip -- northeastern you list saturday. blizzards have been in effect from virginia to maine. all flights out of new york city have been canceled. more than two feet of snow could fall in parts of new england before the storm departs. over 1000 homes over -- 100,000 homes have lost power in massachusetts declaring a state of emergency, experts predicted this might be one of the worst storms to hit the region in years now back to dateline >> >> welcome back to dateline, i'm natalie morales it took less than an hour for a jury to find richie wilder guilty of murdering his -- even after the verdict his
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second wife cindy continue to stand by her man insisting to reporters that he was no killer. she was about to rekindle a connection with the old friend, and the story she tell him would come with the surprising new twist. here again, keith morrison with prairie confidential. >> murder can have so many innocent victims, like the children angela and richie's, forever deprived of both parents >> i am with the kids have now. they've been with me for the past year, and they will continue to be with me. they need to know that their dad is a good man. >> stepmother cindy, kindergarten, teachers said she was doing her best in trying circumstances. raising -- convicted of murdering she did get some help, mind you. from her sister, abby. >> she was struggling and needed help.
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trying to figure out the whole single parent thing >> of course, abby had to wonder what happened that night. the night richie murdered angela. human nature. really >> i had tried to ask a few times. are you sure he was home that night? >> same question that bother those detectives but, cindy stuck to her story. >> he didn't leave the house that night. >> no he didn't. >> but,, as you can tell, they had their doubts about cindy. >> did she drive him there? was she inside the house? was she involved in this? >> but, no way to know. >> we just did not have anything to go on. >> did you put it out of your mind? >> we did. >>, meanwhile abby help cindy with the kids. she watched her sister grow even more sad. >> she did seem lonely. she wanted someone to talk to.
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she wanted a companion. it seemed like she was just dealing with the realization that her husband wasn't coming home. >> it wasn't necessarily romance she was looking for, just a man to talk to. like, the bartender that she knew at them -- called, the original. his name was matt walters. he and cindy had met before her marriage, in 2013. we hang out on slow nights and do shots together. there was one night where we had a really good, in-depth conversation ever since then, she felt this connection. that's how she always refer to it. this connection. >> did she trust? you feel safe with? you >> she seem like. it >> they lost track of another, after cindy married richie. cindy had a little girl, but after the murder, cindy found that on facebook. >> she said something like, i suppose you've heard. and i said, heard?
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what she said -- did you feel bizarre if? or >> yeah i felt really bad >> -- worlds? then talked about you, guessed it. richie's arrest. >> did she have any comment about his innocence? >> she insisted that he was home alone with her all night, and that he never left. i think the only thing that ever said to her was, if that's not true and you testified to that in court, you can end up in prison. >> matt knew something firsthand about president. he had done more than a year behind bars in his early 20s for burglary, before turning his life around. i'm going to work is an electrician. you warned her? >> yeah. i let her know that person is in place she wants to go. >> anyway, matt was a shoulder to cry on. >> she was going to really crappy time. >> even after matt moved to denver, they chanted online and
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one day, cindy said something very disturbing. >> we were talking about how richie got caught, and he's going to prison and i said, well a nice kind of a stupid way to do something like that. and she said well, the knife was a backup it was supposed to be a gun >> wow. >> that was my response. wow. >> she wasn't in the same bystander. >> she wasn't innocent bystander, and the right thing is to let the proper people know. >> so, matt did. he called the minot police who, by then, had all but given up on cindy angle. there was a phone call into the general police department phone line. this individual had given his name and phone number, and that he had information in regards to the and to a wild homicide. so what did you? do >> we arrange a time for detective tyson i to place a call, and we heard him out. >> he seemed very credible he was somebody that had this bad gut feeling, from conversations
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that he had that there is more to this. >> so, detectives took the next step. they enlisted him as a confidential informant and gave him a name, sihai dash 17 dash 001. what was it like to be a confidential informant? >> during the time, it was kind of cool. it's like where you see on tv. >> the arrangements, however, we're a little daunting. >> they came out and say it, would you be willing to wear a wire. >> what was elected here? that >> i was kind of stunned and dumbfounded for a second. after a, second i thought, she was involved, and the right thing was to go and help them. >> careful. you can never know when you set a trap exactly what your catch. >> test, test test. i'm almost. there >> coming up, cindy stay silent until, >> all of a sudden. happens >> we were like, we had
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denver. >> how did you organize a meeting with cindy? i told her i got laid off, and, i was going to come back to minot to see some friends. i asked her if you want to hang out. she seemed to jump at the opportunity. >> but nervous? oh. yes investigators set up a secret meeting at this hotel. >> there were four detective sitting there, and that's when it kind of hit me. like holy cow, this is real. >> the how to do without spooking her? the tech protective's had an idea. >> one of our options was to have a hotel room, which we had audio on video wired, and we were going to be in the room next to it. >> but, that was engaged to a girl in denver. >> i said,, not, that's not gonna happen. there's only one reason you go to hotel room, and i'm like, we're not doing that. >> so they considered hiding the wire on his body. matt didn't like that, either. >> cindy was very careful and paranoid. i just gather that, if they put
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a wire on me, and we started talking about the stuff there is a chance that she would want to search. me >> he felt that it would be better to just go for a ride, or go out, and have his car wired. >> so, police did just that. then, he did transmitter the trunk, so the detectives could follow and listen in. >> test, test, test. >> 9:30 pm, matt picked up cindy at her house. they went to a bar, warm at turn on the phone to capture the conversation while, they weren't in the car. >> i want it is all to be comfortable together, we hadn't seen each other news. he didn't push too hard, heat and probe. for now, he was just an old phone catching up, till past midnight,, then >> i drove her home and she didn't get out of my car which was good, buddy
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got to the point where it seem like an hour in, she wasn't saying anything. or anything relevant. detectives good men, and multi's, we're only a four feet away in the dark. but we're desperately trying to stay away. >> at some point, we said day we're going to -- you're getting tired, you're getting exhausted. you've been listening for hours. >> there is nothing. >> and then all the sudden it happens. >> i said i should get going. and her body language changed, and the tone of the situation changed. it was pretty obvious that she was angry. >> angry? angry about that? >> i was not sure. so i asked her. >> are you mad at your husband? >> no i am proud of him. i am just pissed that he got caught and that he got sloppy,
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and patient, and -- >> cause we had this thing planned for like two years. >> plan for two? years what's? >> it was almost like the floodgates opened and she led it all off her chest at once. >> he came that night and he said he got sloppy, she fought back, he did what he had to do. she put up a good fight. >> i'm sure. she was fighting for her life. >> and that's what got him to. like if it was me i wouldn't have gone back and cut her fingers off. i would've burnham down. burn it on fire. >> what was it like for you? >> it was the hardest mental thing i've ever had to do. the whole urge i had to -- she sickening. she's disgusting. >> like what's psycho on her. because the hate, and the anger, and the frustration. i totally would've done the
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same thing too. >> i know. it's like i said before. a life is a stupid way to kill somebody. >> while he had a gun that was untraceable. but -- every time he tucking it, it camped jamming. he said that night -- i helped him clean up that night, he left again. like dispose of the clothing. and the weapon. and everything. and i thought we were in the clear. >> do you think you're a horrible person or you think about what you've done? >> -- >> needed to be done? she said. as if murder was somehow a winning solution to who got custody of the kids. finally, remember how am joe la jolla her fiancée during the murder that she was worried about being watched? she was right anyway. >> like, i helped him. like i would leave. i would leave the house at midnight and sit outside her house in my vehicle.
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seeing who came to the house. when her boyfriend left. yeah, we had this planned out. and he -- it up. because he didn't clean the car good enough. one spot of blood in my car. >> when she said that. could you tell us what that was like? >> there were some high fives in the car. >> all right. let's call it a night. i'm the. your beat. we'll see each other again. right? >> it's up to you. >> run out, and exhausted. matt rendezvous with detectives at the sleep in. >> while we had detectives at the motel, and we went in the room. i said is it too soon to hug you? >> i was so drained. so we called it a night. i went back to my friends house that i was staying at. i could not sleep for two or three hours even though i was exhausted. it was all just so surreal. it was a whirlwind of disbelief and shock.
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and discussed. i kept having to grapple with the images of what's angela went through during the murder. >> a few days later, the detectives went to the school where cindy was a substitute teacher. third day that grade. >> when i went down to the school. i shoulder that i had a arrest warrant for being a part of the homicide of angela. how >> how did she take? it >> she did not respond. she did not cry. she did not make any statements. >> oh but she would. such a surprise on the way. >> coming up. cindy says she was just branding. >> a handful of things in that conversation are somewhat true, but for the most part it's false, and extremely exaggerated. >> but will anyone believe her? >> that was kind of a shocker in the courtroom that day. >> it was a surprise.
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court, she shares a different version of her story. but first she talks to us. here is keith morrison with the conclusion of prairie confidential. >> she looked tiny, almost childlike, in her jail jumpsuit. barely five feet, maybe 100 pounds. a trusted teacher of the very young, and very innocent. and yet here she was in court answering two allegations in a very big crime. a huge -- . of lying to everyone. even those who loved her mouth. >> i felt betrayed, because i felt sorry for her. as a cyst are wanted to help her. and then to find out that it all felt like a big lie, and that i was betrayed, and deceived. it was terrible. >> no doubt. she did say what's she said on those tapes with the
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confidential informants, matt walters. >> like if it was me, i would've gone back and got her fingers off. i would bring down the house. >> who did you think about? knowing there is a children in the house at the time. >> i was thinking, those are strong words. that is a lot of hate. >> but was it? or something else altogether. >> a few days after she was supposed to be seen in court. we interviewed cindy by court -- phone from the jail. how could she explain all those things she said to matt on tape? her answer was also her legal defense. >> i mean, i was only trying to see if there was more in our relationship. and i was -- >> you are trying to impress him? did you say. >> yeah. i know that he had had a criminal history to. so i thought, that would be our
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common thing. >> so you said i did all these terrible things when you didn't really do them? >> yes. parts of that conversation are somewhat true, but some of it is extremely exaggerated. >> so what is true out of that conversation? just >> the fact that i knew about it after it happened. >> okay. and you had the fact that you knew about? it >> i didn't think [inaudible] i did want to lose my job. >> would a jury except this information that she was simply trying to impress someone with this made up top? certainly the prosecutor didn't buy it. >> if you're trying to impress subway, you make up a story about being a state champion gymnast or a diver. not about being an accomplice to murder. >> in any case, no jury would have to decide. on a charge of conspiracy to
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commit murder, the prosecutor offered a deal. she would spend 25 years in prison, and then get out to resume her life. and cindy turned it down. she had a strategy of her own. she would take an all furred p plea. meaning she pled guilty not because she did it, because a jury would find her guilty, that way the judge would impose a lighter penalty. but in may 2015, who they appealed to the judge for a lean more lenient sentence. and now, it was the judges turn. which he believes in these explanation? >> you are the one person who could've stopped this nightmare. you're the one person who could've intervened. who could have called law enforcement when reggie left your home. you are the one person who could've spared her life. you chose not to do so.
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i am here by remanding you to the north carolina code of corrections and rehabilitation, and spot -- to the arrangement of life in prison without the possibility of parole. >> life without parole? it was a shocker in the courtroom that day. >> it was a surprise. but, it was certainly, in my mind, well deserved. >> were you surprised? >> this judge is known for hard sentencing. particularly where children are involved. >> from cindy? not a flinch. from her sister? >> it almost feels like the death of someone in the family. everything changed. at least before there was some hope that even if it was a long period of time, there's still
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that hope that we can make memories again. go on trips, and spend time together outside of prison walls. and that is gone. >> but for angela's sister. >> she's a horrible person. she is exactly where she needs to be. and i am so thankful that the judge saw her for the individual that she is. the monster that she is. >> and so our story ends, with a family shattered. and that waters, doesn't regret his decision to wear a wire. but he struggles. doing the right thing was not easy. >> basically i'm responsible for ending another person's life in all meaningful ways. which is fine, she deserves it. but it's still kind of a hard thing to deal with, to know you ended someone's life. >> you feel like it somehow on you? >> yeah like a weight is on me. >> and angela? would surely be working as a
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nurse by now. would finally have achieved her lifelong mission to care for people, and make them well. cool >> she pops in my head. and i'm just sad. she would have been one heck of a nurse. >> that is all for this edition of dateline. i'm natalie morales. thank you for watching. i'm craig melvin, and i'm natalie morales. this is dateline. >> during the middle of the night i heard this loud noise. it sounded like someone who's in the house. i opened up her door to her bedroom, and i thought, i'm hearing things. >> your instincts were right, that something was happening in the middle of the night. you think your child is safe in your home. >> she was just 16. emma the honor
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