tv Alex Witt Reports MSNBC January 30, 2022 9:00am-10:00am PST
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georgia. air travel is limping back to normal, getting off to a slow start in new york. massachusetts still digging out after taking it on the chin. you can see the storm surge slamming one beach town. between 20 and 30 inches of snow accumulated. utility crews are working to restore power to 14,000 homes in florida and more than 51,000 customers in massachusetts. >> as of this morning, though, many restorations have been made this is to the great work of the utilities, prestaging, having the crews available really made a difference to turn on power where they could. >> the governor of georgia is raising concern as farmers in his state assess how the cold front has impacted crops. this is new video today from rehoboth beach, president biden's summertime home. in rhode island, this couple
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braved the conditions to exchange their vows with help of officials at the approve he providence library, good for them. we're going to go right you to, kathy park in boston. nice to see you in the sunshine. a balmy 19 degrees there. but compared to yesterday, that was just ridiculous, having you out in that wind and the cold. we could barely even see you with all the snow. so things look a little better today? >> reporter: hey, alex, yeah, i really needed the sunshine. i think a lot of bostonians did too. it was remarkable how much snow we got. i can see the pavement, here in boston we got 26 inches of snow, tying a record for the most snow in one day. but as you can say, all around me, there's still a whole lot of digging ahead. the first nor'easter of 2022,
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making history. millions still reeling. from plunging temperatures, fast snowfall, and fierce winds. now the cleanup begins from maryland to maine. massachusetts pounded all day and into the night saturday. gusts reaching up to 90 miles an hour in cape cod. in boston, the blizzard so intense, crews struggled to stay ahead of the pileup. >> we can't see anyone, can't see pedestrians, can't see people. >> reporter: powerful storm surges put whole neighborhoods underwater. >> the streets are officially flooded. >> reporter: in nantucket, residents used a canoe to get around. in connecticut, winds topping 60 miles per hour. snowfall totals reaching double digits in the region's first blizzard in years.
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>> roads are awful, very slippery. >> reporter: the bomb cyclone grinding air travel to a halt. more than 3,500 cancellations. nearly all flights grounded at new york area airports saturday. and hundreds of flights canceled at boston logan international. >> the flight was cancelled for cleveland. can't get any until sunday evening or monday morning. >> reporter: cancellations plaguing major transportation hubs, from runways to railroads. for january revellers, the winter weather isn't all bad. >> i just really love the snow. >> reporter: while hundreds of new yorkers seize the day, and the snow, for an epic winter war in washington square park. now the storm is long gone, but the deep chill has stuck around. we are sitting in the teens right now. but it feels just like 8 degrees when you factor in the wind chill.
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alex, i'm still shivering out here. there have been several people in their running gear, a light jacket, getting in a run today, very impressive. >> that's a mentality i can't even relate to. but amen to them. kathy, thank you very much. those airports kathy mentioned are facing lingering problems today but they're starting to move passengers once again. nbc's steven romo is at new york's la guardia airport. steven, are folks frustrated or just glad to get back on a flight? >> reporter: alex, i've actually been surprised, the mood is not nearly as bad as i thought it was going to be. around 7:00 this morning, things were entirely dead. it's only been in the past half hour or so when it's really started to pick up. take a look at that security line, it's backing up. things look swamped over there right now. people seem to be very aware their flight status so they haven't been headed to the
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airport until they absolutely have to. that's why the mood isn't nearly as bad as we expected here. if you think about all the travel problems we've seen just this month, the delays with omicron and the staffing issues we've seen from all of the airlines, it has caused a lot of building frustration. you add in this nor'easter that everyone was dealing with yesterday, those delayed flights now taking off. it's sort of causing a domino effect for delays and cancellations today. these numbers are pretty extraordinary. new york officials say saturday more than 76% of flights were canceled at jfk. 98% were canceled here at la guardia. newark saw 85% of its flights canceled yesterday. it's just more of the same today for many people. nationwide, there have been about 4,400 delays and 1,400 cancellations so far, that information from flightaware. that's in addition to all the problems that people were seeing on the roads. so travelers we're talking to are facing trouble. but here's some of the optimism
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we heard from them today. >> i actually came for a birthday bash but of course it got cancelled because of the weather. coming into new york we had delays, but so far, so good, i've been checking regularly just to make sure because we didn't want something to happen at the last minute and wasn't aware what was going on. >> reporter: now, the advice we've heard time and time again from the travelers are, just check that flight status and keep checking it. they also say a phrase that i really don't like to say on tv, pack your patience. i don't really like that phrase but if it helps them make it through, we're all for it. >> we'll pretend we didn't hear that, but we'll take that point, thank you very much, steven romo. let's go to nbc news
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meteorologist michelle grossman. i know you'll tell folks to be careful as they're out shoveling. >> yes, yes. the good news with that snow is it's light and fluffy, not the, quote, heart attack snow, that's so heavy and hard to deal with. so that's one silver lining. we have a shot of cape may, that's the good news. the sun is shining. we'll start that cleanup process. but we did see a lot of snow and a lot of spots. cape may got nearly a foot of snow. the jersey shore, so much snow in the jersey shore, they're surpassing records there. usually we see the snow inland. but look at that, some people are even out on the beach there, see on my monitor. as snowfall totals go, we saw nearly 3 feet of snow in some spots. stoughton, mass was the jackpot, 13.9 inches.
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plainedge, new york, 16 inches. new york city, central park registered 8.3 inches of snow. this is the big story now. kathy was sort of alluding to this too, the dangerously cold air out there. everyone is cleaning up that light, fluffy snow and we're looking at very frigid temperatures. the good news also, the winds have died down. we're still seeing some gusty winds in maine but that's about it. so, bitterly cold windchills. we're seeing temperatures in the teens in some spot, feels like below zero in many spots. florida, you woke up so cold this morning. this is a big story in terms of the crops in florida. we woke up with temperatures in the 20s and 30s and that's what we'll see again tomorrow morning. so we have a freeze watch in the purple, the light pink for the advisory. it's a huge area of high pressure. you can see where these temperatures extend to. 14 in caribou right now. syracuse, 15. 20 degrees right now in new york city. you factor in the winds, and it feels like below zero in some
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spots. so it feels like 10 degrees in new york city. it feels like 4 in caribou and feels like 4 in boston. that's where kathy is, that's where the big snow totals were. through the afternoon, we won't climb very far from there. new york city just above freezing this afternoon at 33. well below normal for this time of year. typically we're in the low to mid-40s. dc, 41 degrees this afternoon. that stretches to cleveland at 30. it's going to feel like the high 20s there. as you can see, up and down the east coast we're looking at cold air. boston, raleigh, jacksonville, down to miami. miami will rebound into the mid-60s. so chilly for this time of year but not the 30s we saw earlier this morning. back to the west, we're building in the warmth kind of sliding to the east. we'll be warmer and milder in new york city by wednesday and thursday. but alex, just to end here, when you have that big difference in temperatures, you can see that warm air to the west, cold air to the east, this is sort of a precursor to what we'll see
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mid-week when these two dynamic storms come together and clash. >> ew. i wasn't aware there was a big storm coming with a clash. i'm told the manatees in florida are having a rough time of it, it's never this cold. we'll keep a watch on that as well. michelle, thank you very much. other top stories we're following for you today, starting with the new abc news/ipsos poll showing the american public divided on several key issues, according to that poll only 29% of americans say they support deploying troops to eastern europe to counter the russian threat to ukraine. senator dick durbin gave a more optimistic outlook on this morning's "meet the press." >> i listened closely to what president zelenskiy has said. he reminds us time and again there could be a way out of this short of military action. and i hope there is. but it's his decision to make. if he decides that the future membership, if there's to be
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one, in nato for ukraine and the question of russian occupation of ukraine are two things to put on the table, i think we may move toward a solution to this, and i hope we do soon. >> the polling also had reaction to president biden's pledge to nominate a black woman to fill justice stephen breyer's seat. three-quarters of americans want the president to consider all possible nominees. >> we would welcome the appointment of a black female to the court. i believe that diversity benefits the supreme court. but the way that the president has handled this nomination has been clumsy at best. it adds to the further perception that the court is a political institution like congress when it is not supposed to be. meantime, donald trump ramping up the dangerous
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rhetoric at a rally last night in texas, saying this about the prosecutors looking into his company and his efforts to overturn the election. >> if these radical, vicious, racist prosecutors do anything wrong or illegal, i hope we are going to have in this country the biggest protest we have ever had in washington, dc, in new york, in atlanta, and elsewhere, because our country and our elections are corrupt. >> wow. that new poll also shows around two-thirds of americans disapprove of president biden's handling of gun violence and crime, two issues the president is expected to speak on this week when he comes to new york city and meets with mayor adams amid rise in gun violence in chicago. mayor lori lightfoot addressing that issue this morning. >> in the short term we have to
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make sure our police department is holding violent, dangerous people accountable. but in the long term we know we can't just arrest our way out of this problem. we have to invest our way out of this problem. >> nbc's loren egan joins us from the white house this sunday. loren, welcome to you. what do we expect to hear from the president this week when he comes to new york? >> reporter: we expect president biden and mayor adams' conversation to relate to the rise in gun violence around the country as a whole. experts thought that would decrease as the coronavirus started to wane but that has not been the case so far. the white house said the president would discuss with the mayor what he's done on the federal level to address the rising gun violence. he's going to talk with mayor adams about using some federal funds to invest more in putting more police officers on the force, to invest in community
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violence prevention programs, and what his administration is doing to combat the illegal sales of guns. but as much of a public health issue as this is, it is also becoming an increasingly big problem problem for the president. you cited those polls. his numbers continue to decrease when it comes to how americans approve of his handling of crime, especially gun violence. and we know that as we get into a midterm elections year, this is something that republicans are already latching on to, and they're going to continue citing these poll numbers and trying to focus a lot of americans' attentions on crime as we get into the midterm elections. and that's before we even get into the complexities of this issue among the democratic party. the president was under fire a little bit from some democrats earlier this year for his encouragement of cities to use some federal covid funding to put more cops on the street. so this is going to be a tricky issue for the president politically, alex. >> absolutely. another thing we're also talking
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about, everybody is, really, it's a parlor game on who the president will be picking to fill justice stephen breyer's seat on the supreme court. the administration has confirmed j. michelle childs is being considered, but that's not the only one. is there a timeline for when the administration or the president himself will say these are the people we're considering and make that announcement? >> reporter: that's right, all the president has said so far is he's going to make an announcement by the end of february. we do know when he was in the transition phase of his campaign, right before he was inaugurated, his transition team had been preparing him for this moment. they had been going over lists. so they certainly have candidates in mind. right now they're going to be sitting down with those candidates in the interview process. we know that vice president harris is going to be deeply involved in this selection process as well. so that's what we're looking forward to in these next few weeks before he has to make that announcement by the end of february. >> okay.
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lauren egan at the white house, thank you, lauren, for that. the u.n. security council meets tomorrow to discuss the crisis in ukraine as fears of an invasion are only on the increase. but if ukraine's president is playing down the threat, what exactly can get accomplished tomorrow? a leading lawmaker just back from ukraine in fact will join me next. ukraine in fact will jn me next. why does walgreens offer prescription copays as low as zero dollars? ♪ ♪ so you won't have a medicare in the world. ♪ ♪
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diplomatic efforts are under way as the u.s. warns a russian attack on ukraine could be just weeks away. the united nations security council will meet tomorrow to discuss the standoff. the united states calling the meeting an attempt to apply international pressure on russia to use diplomacy rather than military force to address its concerns about european security. nbc's erin mclaughlin joins us from the ukrainian capital, kyiv. erin, welcome to you. how is it going in terms of diplomacy efforts into the lead-up of this meeting? >> reporter: hey, alex. in just the last hour, we've
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heard from ukraine's foreign minister on twitter, calling on russia to withdraw the forces that it has built up on three sides of the ukrainian border. let me read you what he had to say. he says, if russian officials are serious when they say they don't want a new war, russia must continue diplomatic engagement and pull back military forces it amassed along ukraine's borders and in the temporarily occupied territories of ukraine. diplomacy is the only responsible way. and this is a slight shift in tone of late for ukrainian authorities who have been very critical with some of the rhetoric coming from washington, saying that that rhetoric is alarmist, that it's been causing panic and economic uncertainty. but here you see the ukrainian foreign minister drawing a correlation between a potential, quote, new war and forces built up on its borders. and this tweet coming a day before this push, diplomatic
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push by the united states at the u.n. security council level to call on russian officials to explain themselves in a live broadcast. that meeting expected to be broadcast live. now, while russia has a veto at the u.n. security council level, it cannot veto this meeting. and earlier today, the u.s. ambassador to the united nations saying she believes she has enough votes for this meeting to go forward. take a listen. >> russia cannot block the security council from holding a meeting. they will certainly attempt to. they will distract from our unified voices. but they know that they cannot block the meeting. and i expect that knowing what we're dealing with, that they will make an attempt. but the security council is unified. our voices are unified in calling for the russians to
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explain themselves. >> reporter: russian officials have denied all allegations from ukraine and the west, calling tomorrow's meeting a, quote, pr stunt, alex. >> okay, erin mclaughlin, thank you very much for the setup because we're going to further this conversation right now, as i welcome to the broadcast democratic congressman tom malinowsky from new jersey. welcome, sir, i know you're just back from a recent trip to ukraine, you went with a bipartisan group of lawmakers. while you were there, i'm assuming, the ukraiian officials were publicly criticizing the white house that it didn't want the white house warning of an imminent attack from russia. yet what erin was just reporting, you have the ukrainian foreign minister basically saying to vladimir putin, if you don't mean war, back off with the troop buildup. what's your takeaway on where things stand right now? >> we met with president
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zelenskiy with the bipartisan delegation, with the ukrainian defense minister, other officials. they know exactly the level of risk that they are facing right now. it's true, they don't want to let putin win a cheap victory of tanking ukraine's economy by panicking everyone without even having to move troops. but they understand that war is a very real possibility and they are preparing. and we're with them on this, and they're with us. putin, in a way, is the great uniter. he has united ukrainians of all different political persuasions. he has united our nato allies to stay with ukraine and with us. he's even united democrats and republicans in congress. most of us understand the united states has to stand by ukraine and against russian aggression. >> that certainly is a miscalculation, then, on vladimir putin's part. >> yes.
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>> let me ask you, i know the u.s. has increased the arms flow. but officials you have met with have reportedly requested more support from the u.s. how so? what are they asking for, and is it reasonable? >> one of the first things that president zelenskiy said to us is that he and the people of ukraine don't want to see a single american soldier fighting for them. so there's a lot of russian misinformation going around about how somehow americans are going to war. they are not asking for that. what they want us to do is to help their military get prepared to fight, to at least impose a cost on russian forces if they go in, obviously to impose the toughest sanctions on the russian economy, particularly the banking sector if this happens, and threatening it as a way of deterring it, obviously. they also asked us for economic help, because again, the threat of a russian invasion is frightening people. people are pulling their money out of banks.
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this is not a time when international investors are looking to make deals in ukraine, for obvious reasons. and so they want us to help inject a little bit of liquidity in their financial system to get them through this period so that if the russians do invade, the ukrainian economy is in a strong state, not a weak state. >> interesting, you speak of this disinformation and how ukrainians don't want to see a single u.s. troop there on the ground in ukraine. the reality is that our president has said there will not be one single u.s. troop member fighting a war there on the ground in ukraine. so that's the fact. but when you hear the president say i am sending troops, it would be a small number, but they're going to go soon to that region, how will they be deployed? how will they be used? >> so we are sending -- we are prepared to send troops and we are encouraging our nato allies to send troops to countries like
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poland and latvia, lithuania, estonia, our nato allies, country to which we have a commitment under the nato treaty that if they are attacked, we will help them, just as they will help us if we were to ever be attacked. so we are signaling to putin here that countries to which we have that commitment will be protected by the united states and the rest of nato, that he cannot cross that line. and it's also a signal to putin that if he continues to threaten ukraine, he will get the very thing he wants the least, which is a stronger nato, with more troops deployed along its eastern flanks, close to russia. >> so -- >> but they're not going into ukraine, just to be clear. >> and i appreciate that point you add there. but amidst all this tension, we have two of your progressive colleagues, congresswoman pramila jayapal and barbara lee, issued a statement this week, we
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have significant concerns that new troop deployments, sweeping and indiscriminate sanctions, and a flood of hundreds of millions of dollars in lethal weapons will only raise tensions and increase the chance of miscalculation. russia's strategy is to inflame tensions. the united states and nato must not play into this strategy. are you at all concerned, sir, that the biden administration's current strategy could further provoke putin? >> absolutely not. i work very closely with congresswoman jayapal and congresswoman lee. i don't agree with them here. the only person provoking tensions, the only person threatening war here, is putin. he has surrounded ukraine on three sides with one of the largest military deployments we have seen anywhere in the world since the end of the second world war. he is doing everything possible to convince us that he is about to launch an all-out invasion of ukraine. so the only choice we have is to either try to deter it by
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helping ukraine or to invite it by not helping ukraine. it is in our national interest, it has been since the end of the second world war, to try to prevent dictators from changing borders with tanks. that would be an absolute catastrophe, not just for ukraine but for the security of europe and the trans-atlantic community that the united states has helped to keep for the last 70 years. this is the best way we can preserve this peace and avoid a war. >> between 2014 and 2018, which includes former president trump's time in office, the number of republicans who saw russia as an ally or friendly to the u.s., it almost doubled. today, this is what the rhetoric on russia sounds like. take a listen. >> the government of someplace called ukraine is demanding that we fight the russian army on their behalf. the question is, we're the united states, so why are we obeying them?
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>> okay. so your office, i understand, is now getting calls about this. what do you make of this messaging? >> it's exactly what putin and the russians want us to be saying and thinking. they're delighted by tucker carlson. they're running tucker's clips on russian tv every single night. number one, he's lying to his viewers. he's telling them that america is about to go to war for ukraine which is absolutely not true. number one, he is inviting his millions of viewers to basically take russia's position, to believe that somehow russia is the victim in this even though russia is the country that already has invaded ukraine, that has started a war that over the last several years has claimed more than 10,000 innocent lives, and is now threatening one of the biggest land invasions of another
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country that we've seen anywhere in the world since the second world war. if america is for anything in the world, it's for countries that are the victims of that kind of aggression. if we're against anything in the world, it's against what putin is trying to do right now. so i'm very concerned about some of this rhetoric that's bubbling up on the far right, and i don't want to see anyone on the left, i do not want to see anyone on the democratic side, echoing that rhetoric as well. we need to hold a bipartisan coalition here in support of our values, in support of a democracy that is being threatened by a dictatorship. >> new jersey congressman tom malinowsky, thank you for your time on this sobering issue, we appreciate it. meantime, the president hasn't made up his supreme court mind yet and it's getting ugly. the expectations for when the confirmation process actually has to play out, that's next. has to play out, that's next
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new this week, president biden is heading to new york city to meet with mayor eric adams to discuss the recent spike in crime including a shooting that left two nypd officers dead and a sea of blue uniforms attending a funeral for one of those officers this week. it was something to behold. joining me now is peter baker, chief white house correspondent for "the new york times" and an msnbc political analyst and my sunday buddy. so peter, you know, i look at that sea of blue and it's heartbreaking, this spike in crime is a concern for this white house. did that picture, that sea of uniforms, nypd officers, do you think that influenced the president to visit new york to show he's aware of the rising crime across the parts of the country? >> i think it does, broadly. remember, this is a very fraught issue, since last year, weapon the killing of george floyd, democrats, you know, many liberals talked about defunding the police. democratic leaders like biden didn't agree with that but were tagged with that in the election
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and made to feel defensive about the crime issue. and with the killings and the crime rates going up in many cities, still not as bad as it was at the peak but going up since last year when president trump was still in office, democrats want to show, you know, that they still stand with police and they're not, you know, going too far to the fringe. at the same time, of course, president biden has to be very aware that there are a lot of americans, and particularly democrats, who are still concerned about issues of police brutality and issues of excessive force that we addressed or saw addressed in street protests last year. so it's a tough and tricky balance for this president to try to find here. >> you know, it's funny, you went right into my second question, i was going to ask you about. it's a tightrope walk that the president is doing right now. there's increasing crime, and yet you need to support the police but there are those who say the police are not going about their jobs the right way. it's really quite the conundrum for this white house. so there will be a lot of eyes
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on the president this week. a lot of other headlines this week for the president that includes ukraine, the economy, supreme court retirement, infrastructure push. where does the most urgent attention lie, peter, for this white house and do they weigh that against what the public might find most important? i mean, do they look at polls, do they get a sense of that, or do they say this is what we need to do and this is our agenda? >> oh, they look at polls, don't worry about that, this is a white house and any white house looks at polls. this is a white house that has realized their focus in their first year was on things that didn't have a lot of traction with voters. the build back better act, even though its programs are very popular, didn't address front and center the issues that a lot of americans have particularly over inflation and covid. i think covid has to be their number one priority because so many americans feel very disconcerted by the inability to return to a regular life, the
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inability to, you know, sort of seem like we can get past this. and that's got to be priority one. but obviously they've got other things they have to worry about. they have to pick a supreme court nominee. this is actually a chance for biden to get a little momentum again after a pretty tough few months. presumably he'll pick somebody that the democratic caucus will like, and even though it will be a partisan fight, he has the votes, presumably, to get that nominee through. that will be a success that he hasn't had in a while. but you're right, he has a lot of things on his plate at the same time, many of them quite tricky. >> given the relative failure at this point with build back better and voting rights agendas, does that all have to go to the back burner? >> we need to recalibrate how they handle it. obviously the voting rights issue is not going anywhere, currently and there doesn't seem to be an effort to find republicans to get past the filibuster. they do want to rewrite the electoral college act, the issue
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of who gets to count the votes and disqualify electors. that would go a long way to addressing the concerns that led to the attack on the capitol, there seems to be a move from both parties for that. build back better, he has some chances for success if he breaks it apart, because there are individually programs in that larger legislation that are supported by if not every democrat, certainly the vast majority of them and probably even some republicans potentially depending on how it looks. if they don't pass it, at least they're telling the public what they stand for as opposed to this amorphous idea that the build back better act came to represent. >> okay. it's not a sunday on this broadcast without "the new york times'" peter baker. thank you, my friend. ahead, a new normal for schools across this country. s a.
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for us. >> reporter: good afternoon to you, alex. school officials in orlando county say it's time to get back to business as usual. starting tomorrow school officials say they will no longer be offering excused absences to students who stay home because of covid concerns. this includes quarantine. school officials say this will reduce the strain on teachers. now, as omicron was surging, students were allowed to do their assignments at home without being marked absent. the district says it extended this policy through january because of the surge. but now officials say cases are rapidly declining and they say it is time for healthy students to get back in the classroom or they could face truancy. >> it is covered under state law, the truancy laws are pretty clear that without having an
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excuse to be absent from school, just keeping your child out of school when the mandatory education statues say that your child is to be in school between the ages of 6 and 16, then we are obligated to enforce that. and there are options. they can choose home education, like i said, they can withdraw and register in a home education program, or they can withdraw and enroll in private education. >> reporter: and as you heard there, parents will have the option of home schooling. but what they'll have to do is they will actually have to officially withdraw from in-person learning, then switch to the home schooling option. however options say if parents feel more comfortable and there comes a time when they want their kids back in class, they will then just have to reenroll. in terms of students staying home who are sick or test positive for covid, alex, this may go without saying, but officials say though students
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will be given an excused absence. and here in orange county, in orlando, this is one of the largest school districts in the state, serving more than 200,000 students. >> okay. some disturbing aspects of that report. but we'll keep following it. thank you so much, stephanie. some might want to dismiss donald trump's latest rabble rousing last night as little more than just playing to the crowd. up next, trump's promise and threat. should it alarm you? threat threat should it alarm you?ck, and the new baja chicken & bacon, aka "the smokeshow." save big. order through the app. trelegy for copd. ♪ birds flyin' high ♪ ♪ you know how i feel ♪ (coughing) ♪ breeze driftin' on by ♪ ♪ you know how i feel ♪ copd may have gotten you here, but you decide what's next. start a new day with trelegy.
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new today, growing back lash to republican senator roger wicker who compared president biden's pledge to nominating a black woman to the supreme court to affirmative action. the irony is the supreme court is here at the very same time hearing cases about this sort of affirmative racial discrimination. and while adding someone who is
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the beneficiary of this sort of quota, the majority of the court may be saying it is unconstitutional. we'll see how that irony works out. >> okay. joining me now, democratic strategist and biden campaign consultant. and david jolly, former congressman from florida, and an msnbc political contributor. welcome all. i'm going to let you make some commentary. calling the supreme court a beneficiary of affirmative action. >> first of all, not all black women get into college because of affirmative action. and one thing happen to be white women who quite frankly, the same senator didn't have much to say in this vein when president trump said he would replace justice ginsburg with a woman.
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he said it would be an inspiration. so this is an example of what is to come when this black woman is name. when president biden stands by his comments to not only appoint a black woman to the supreme court, but this will also continue to push our judiciary forward and looking like america. out of 115 justices, literally, all of them, except for seven, have been white men. so this means people will interpret the law with people who represent the country. it doesn't mean people will come and not interpret constitutional law in a way that isn't just. it makes it better for all people. >> and this is happening before there's even a name. what is the confirmation going to play out -- how is that going to play out, rather? >> well, i think it will be pretty ugly.
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let's not forget the names that have been brought forward of these women have impeccable credentials. maybe it will be someone's name whom we haven't heard. but i bet their credentials are better than the united states senator's is. at least their record is better. what is really important hear is that i notice that the democrats do not have the same kind of lineup as the federal society is to republicans. to talk about what their judicial ideology is. and that's really important. i hope they get firmly behind the nominee and make this as civil a process as it can be. it is interesting that we don't have an idea of what the democrats are looking for toward their appointments to the courts in the same way you would speck it from the republicans. >> don't you think though, and i'll note this to you.
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don't you think other republicans should hear this and say, come on. don't make that kind of a statement, senator. >> they should all call it out. it's racist, i go northern and absurd. i haven't heard any republicans thankfully getting on that bandwagon but i say that with, not yet. they do it just to rile up their base. they think it is for whatever reason a good thing to get them on cable tv and talk about using that line. any republican who does not agree with it should be calling out their colleagues. >> okay. point well taken. david, we'll switch gears and start with you donald trump for you. you're pleased with that. he held a rally last night in texas. he teased another white house run but listen to this pledge that he made. take a listen. >> if i run and if i win, we will treat those people from
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january 6th fairly. we will treat them fairly. and if it requires pardons, we will give them pardons because they are being treated so unfairly. >> okay. a couple things here. first, there was an earlier sound bite where he suggested people should continue protesting, as if to continue the big lie about the election. get out there and protest, folks. here's a reminder about what he said right there. more than 700 people have been arrested with this rite. the most serious charge being seditious conspiracy. when you listen to that claim from donald trump, what goes through your mind? >> alex, i say this very seriously last night with that dangerous moment we saw with donald trump. we all suffer from a little outrage fatigue with donald trump. many of us try to ignore him. what he pledged tad last night was pardon people who have been criminally charged including for seditious activity. he also suggested that should
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there be criminal prosecution brought against him for any matter, either january 6th or related to his business or personal activity, his attempts to influence the election in georgia, people need to immediately protest and cause disruption in the streets. this was a dangerous moment. this was donald trump saying, what you saw on january 6th, i'm willing to do again. in some ways, only republicans can stop him so i would say they're complicit as well. but last night should have rung the bell for a lot of us. he intends to run again and he intends to seek justice. >> there are many who would love to tune out donald trump. just play him out like violin, right? play the music and let him get off the stage. however, is there peril at doing that? must we pay attention to him given everything that david just said? >> we absolutely must pay
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attention to what he is saying. what he is saying is extremely dangerous and it can cause another dangerous protest that could be worse off. this is the person who started saying that there are very fine people are both sides when there was a horrible demonstration in charlottesville. also the same person, let's remember, that when it was people if itting and protesting for the lives of black people to be dignified, he was actually launching the national guard at these people, and yet when our capitol, our nation's capitol was under siege, he was not saying anything. and he's gas lighting and telling people that it is okay to do this. so it is very dangerous west should pay attention. if we're not paying attention, we could miss even more of the warning signs of what is to come. >> okay, guys. i'm really heavy right now.
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