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u.s. ambassador who put the russians on notice in the face-to-face clash at the u.n. monday. this afternoon democratic and republican leaders of the judiciary committee, which is going to sit on the conformation committee for justice stephen breyer's replacement will head to the white house to talk about deliberations on the successor. and "the new york times" reporting that former president trump was personally involved in failed attempts to take control of voting machines in swing states. reportedly getting pushback from attorney general bill barr at the sometime and his personal attorney rudy giuliani. this is liz cheney reacts to the former president's assertion that mike pence could have overturned the election. >> he acknowledges he was attempting to, quote, overturn the election. he threatens prosecutors. he uses the same language he knows caused the january 6th violence. i think it tells us he clearly would do it all again if given the chance.

let's begin with the crisis in ukraine. british prime minister boris johnson is in kyiv meeting with president zelensky today. chief foreign correspondent, richard engel filed this report from the eastern border. >> reporter: here there's an uneasy calm. people are nervous. they are aware that russia has 130,000 troops, tanks, medical units, missile launchers, the full capacity to launch a war, that if it were launched, would likely run right through the city. but the city is still functioning. people have not, to a large degree, left. some are keeping bags pack fwhied door, keeping their document said in places they can find them, putting money in envelopes but they're still going about their day-to-day lives. and the city, outwardly, is not preparing for war. they're not clearing out the bomb shelters.

i spoke to a local counsel woman and she's frustrated that the city isn't doing more. there are no public information campaigns telling people what they should do in case there were an invasion. really it's not being talked about. only when we go up to people and ask them how they are feeling, at first they're almost surprised that we're asking. they think that this is something that is strange. why are all these journalists asking us these questions about how we feel? we've been living under the threat of russian invasion for many years now. i don't want to say it's a suspended disbelief but it is the line the government has been pressing here. the government is not talking much about the possibility of a russian invasion. certainly president zelensky has been openly dismissive of the possibility, saying that he thinks the united states and nato are exaggerating the threat and, to some degree, are

responsible for creating the tension. so, people are nervous, the city's not taking any overt precautions. but people privately are starting, even if they won't say it, even if they feel uncomfortable talking about it, they are starting to at least prepare for the possibility that this country and the city could be invaded. >> our thanks for that important perspective. and joining us now, we're so pleased to have our u.n. ambassador to the united nations from the united states. you, of course, are fresh from the security council meeting yesterday and your face off, really, with the russian ambassador. let me first ask you about our early reporting from vladimir putin's ongoing news conference where he says that in the western responses, which are the u.s. response, to rugds demand for written report, if you will, that they do not meet the

russian security councerns. in other words, nato's exfans, which of course, the u.s. has said was a nonstarter. he doesn't seem to be responding to the arms control proposals from secretary blinken. so, is this a very ominous sign? >> no. i think it's a sign that we are still having ongoing discussions. with the russians. our meeting at the security council yesterday, we're very pleased to have that meeting and to get the russians on record on what they are doing in ukraine. and have them here from a unified counsel. our recommendation, our our occupation for them to pursue a dip luplattic solution and we've made it clear we're willing to sit down and talk to them about their security concerns.

we are willing to also address ukraine's security concerns. they have 100,000 troops on the border with ukraine. nato does not have have those kinds of forces. nato is a defensive force. but we're willing to discuss the security concerns that they have. >> do you believe what the u.s. was originally saying in recent days and weeks, that vladimir putin would not have amassed that kind of force on the borders, now on three sides coming from belarus in the north as well. if he weren't going to do something of -- >> that's exactly what -- yeah. >> go ahead. >> that's exactly what we believe. why would you put 100,000 troops on the border with ukraine if you had no intention of invading that country? and it's more than 100,000. they put an additional 30,000 in belarus.

so, it is up to them to explain what their troops are doing and what their intentions are. and i think we had a good opportunity to push them on that at the security council yesterday and again we had another opportunity in a diplomatic form, to have them on the record in public. >> does ukraine's hesitance about all this, from the zelensky press conference on friday undercut the allied response or do you see that differently? >> you know, i can't speak for the president of ukraine. what i can say is that we have had intense discussions with the ukrainian government, with president zelensky, with the foreign minister. i have met with the ukrainian ambassador in new york who was present at our meeting yesterday, requested the meeting in writing and made a strong,

strong appeal to the security council in that meeting. so, i think we're on the same sheet of music in terms of what we're seeing. our narrative is different. our rhetoric is a little different. but the -- what we're seeing on the border, there's no dispute on that. >> from the u.s. perspective, the briefing that we just had, the call between secretary of state and secretary lavrov, the foreign minister, was fairly positive today because they were talking again and possibly having a meeting; that there was a diplomatic path here. it does seem to be a different tone from vladimir putin just hours later. is there a disconecthere? >> again, i can't speak for the russians. but from our side, we want to pursue a diplomatic solution. and we're going to lean in on

the diplomacy and i was very pleased, coming out of the meeting, or the discussion that secretary blinken and foreign minister lavrov had; that they agreed to have further talks. that is the approach that we have always wanted and we will continue to do but it doesn't mean we won't prepare. to respond and respond with strongly to any aggression that the russians might decide to do. >> how concerning is belarus? you mentioned the 30,000 troops there. they have missiles there and it would mean that russian movement is only two hours from kyiv. at worst case. >> 100,000, now 130,000 troops. gin, that riflects what we see as the intentions of the russian government but we're still

pushing them to reconsider. to accept the diplomatic approach that will leave them to deescalation. and not to lead to further confrontation. >> do you think even a conversation between the two presidents would be important to try resolve some of these misunderstandings or deliberate miscommunications? >> no, andrea, the president has spoken to president putin twice before and while i'm not aware that there are other plans for a meeting, i know that we are willing to continue to have those discussions at every level between our government and the russian government we've been clear at the start that we want the russians to ofind the solution on the negotiating table and not the battle feed.

>> and as of today takes over the presidency for one month. it's a rotating presidency. can they do anything to stop any discussion, action? can they ubstructs the u.n. security council as they need it? >> you know, they will try to distract us but they can't block a security council meeting. the presidency doesn't allow them to do that. but they will try, i'm sure, any procedural tricks that they can find to distract the security council from this issue. we can still propose a meeting and have a meeting during the russian presidency. >> again, i know how busy you are, i can only madgeage how busy you are but thank you so much for taking time to talk to us. very important to have your perspective. >> thank you so much, andrea.

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the fbi is investigating a series of bomb threats at historically black colleges and universities around the country. ken delaney joins us. this is the second time in less than a month that there have been threats like this. they include howard university, the oldest historically black college in the country. and eight historically black colleges got threats.

schools reported all clear later in the day. we reported threats at 15 colleges and universities. some are conducting remote class while others, including howard, have been given the all clear. bomb threats typically in this country, thankfully, have not corresponded with actual bombings. recall there were threats against ivy league universities in the fall and no bombs were found. they concluded a teenage gamer was involved. that said, this is being taken seriously, in part, because the same racist language has been used in many of the threats. the fbi says they're aware and working with law enforcement partners to address them, andrea. >> ken dilanian, thank you so much. i know you're going to stay on that. and new reporting about donald trump's attempts to overturn the 2020 election. "the new york times" is reporting that after he lost the election, the former president

looked into whether agencies, including the homeland security department, could seize voting machines in key swing states. an attorney for rudy giuliani saying no comment. the report comes just days after trump claimed that former v.p., mike pence, could have overturned the outcome of the election. and dangling potential pardons for january 6th rioters. january 6th vice chair, liz cheney, saying she thinks the former president would do it all over again if he got anywhere close to power. and joining us is the senior capitol hill correspondent and former u.s. attorney and law opprofeser, boston globe columnist and white house bureau chief, ashley parker. liz cheney, in that exclusive conversation with you, sounding the alarms about donald trump. while a georgia prosecutor is

asking the fbi to secure her office and staff after comments by trump this weekend. that she said could insight his followers. >> that's exactly right and cheney mentioned the comments as proof that trump is still out there using the exact language he's always used. the same veiled threats and basically every answer to every question that i ask, he would do it gin if given the opportunity. in this case, you have the fulton county d.a. sending a letter to the fbi pointing at trump's comments from the rally over the weekend in texas and saying if he's talking about protests at offices that are investigating him, basically that's us. we might need additional security, additional help to keep safe. the fbi responding in a letter that was essentially saying we're going to keep doing fbi stuff and investigating threats but not committed to helping with security more directly. we have not heard the last of this,and reau. i think as the former president

continues to make more and more public comments about the investigation. his potential legal troubles. we'll hear more from the committee and potentially more jurisdikdss looking into his behavior. >> and legally speaking, how much of a threat are these revelations about donald trump? the push to seize voting machines, his seizing therm election. >> these could be powerful evidence and almost suggests the conspiracy didn't end january 6th. it's still ongoing as he continues to try to perpetuate this myth that mike pence could have overturned the election and i actually won and we should take to the streets and all of these things. he's continuing to do that. the statements alone are not enough to make a case. because the one key fact that you have to prove in all of this is intent and knowledge. did he know that he'd lost the election? if he truly believed he'd won,

then these efforts have an innocent explanation. i wanted what i rightfully won. but in the face of 60 legal challenges and zero evidence of widespread voter fraud. at point, even without an admission from his mouth, i thin it's a fair inference for that he knew it was illegal. to me the key witness in all of this is william barr. why did he resign when he did in december as all the kangss were happening about can the justice department seize these machines? what was it that so horrified william barr and caused rudy giuliani to say no on the seizing of the voting machines. barr told him there was no fraud and that should be sufficient to build that element of a crime and conspiracy. >> and another key witness i want to ask you about. the former pence chief of staff

who testified before the january 6th committee, according to two sources familiar with the matter. he was in the room. he was in the oval office for a lot of the conversations with mike pence the morning of the sixth. he was with mike pence throughout january 6th up on the hill. >> he is. and that's exactly why. he's a long-time conservative republican, a pence loyalist. not necessarily a trump loyalist. so, not someone who's going to lie to the committee to protect the former president. he was with mike pence that day on january 6th. and as you eluded to are all of the meetings and phone calls in the weeks before the election that former president trump lost and january 6th because he was in the room. he was part of those phone calls. he was getting briefed on all the efforts by trump and his allies and team of lawyers and outside advisors. to pressure pence to, as trump

himself said in a statement with a couple of days ago, overturn the results of what we know to be a free and fair election. that's where he has the visibility of what did he want? what happened with the election? how is he viewing january 6th? and that is the real value. >> i want to switch gears, kimberley and talk about the supreme court nomination. the presidents going to be meeting with the top democrat and senator grassley, the former chair, kwhooz now the ranking member, about the process going forward. durbin said he thinks there might be several republicansopen on the president's pick. we've heard lindsey graham. never know what murkowski and collins could do but they have vote frad the previous judicial appointments. of course that wasn't the supreme court. >> this is a process we've seen kick off with many supreme court nominees.

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>> christopher wray has become the most outspoken critic of chinese spying. says when he took the job in 2017, returning to the government after his time at the justice department, that the sheer scale of china's spying shocked him. and he expanded on this point last night, warning that china's espionage reached a new level. says it's more brazen and damaging than before. the chinese government repeatedly insisted it doesn't try to steel secrets. but they've accused a series of chinese spies. covid vaccines, computer chips. nuclear power plants, wind turbines and smart phones. sometimes a company's technology is stolen by planting insiders but other cases involve theft via computer intrusions. and when it comes to that, it says china is a world leader.

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diplomatic talks. joining me is the chairman of the intelligence committee. thank you for being with us. the readout from secretary blinken's call did say we urged a diplomatic path forward. that russia is going to have more talks with the u.s. but then we hear the hard line from vladimir putin. they're all part of the same piece. you have a takes a to what's going on there? >> i think russia has known and putin has known that his demands to kind of reverse the last 22/23 years and take nato back to pre1997 borders was a complete nonstarter. and the it's peculiar because ukraine put in their

constitution that they aspire to join nato. and so why now? there's a clear path before they can be granted membership innato. i think you're seeing putin reeling a little bit. i think he felt the west would not be united, that the ukrainians might greet any russian incursion with open arms. both facts have been completely reversed. you see the ukrainian parliament about 85% antirussia. and even parts in the east are showing that they are not favorable towards russia. this is an area, in terms of the west's unity -- this is where we all give president biden appropriate hits when they make a mistake. this is one where i think he's really stepped up his game and nato, a year ago, was in shambles. the british were with us from the beginning of concerns about putin. our other nato allies were more

reluctant when you see the spanish sending equipment, the dutch and the danes sending ships. the french saying soldiers in romania are under nato control. the german chancellor coming to washington next week. that is a good sign. and what we've seen is, i think the americans, combined with the brits and others, are flooding the zone diplomatically. not a day goes by that another western leader is not in kyiv meeting with president zelensky or further engagement with the russians. i think that's caught putin a little off guard. and two items in particular, a few weeks back when the american government said if you suddenly see a coup in ukraine, that is the russians under a false flag operation and a week later the britains saying and here's who russia might put in power. that leaning in from the intelligence community. again, unprecedented and i think so far has been fairly well coordinated and getting putin a

little off guard. >> and one of the more ominous signs is he is not deescalated. i want to play a little of my interview earlier this hour with our ambassador to the united nations who was face to face with the russian ambassador and the united front in the security council against russia just yesterday. >> why would you put 100,000 troops on the border with ukraine if you had no intention of invading that country? and it's more than 100,000. they've put an additional 30,000 in belarus. so, it is up to them to explain what their troops are doing and what their intentions are. >> so, could putin just be playing for time, talking about diplomacy through his foreign minister until he's ready? some time before the end of february, we believe, because of the fall in march it will be harder for tanks to move to

ukraine? >> one of the things made mention of this is the vote in the security council was 10-2. russia and china the only ones voting against this action. but a long time since america's been able to get ten votes at the security council on a major issue like this. i do think digging out an exit ramp for putin is a challenge. i don't think anybody has that full answer. clearly putin has got such a small circle of advisors for this point and he is the ultimate decider. and as you pointed out, these next two to three weeks are going to be critical. although, i don't know whether putin would launch a major invasion in the sense oversee and over shadow president xi in china with the olympics coming up. but you get past into february, early march and the ground starts to they and the ability for russian tanks to move forward is undermined. i would point out we were

thinking about this in terms of a classic invasion. we all need to be on guard in terms of ramification oofz russian cyber attack. as we saw five or six years ago that had ramifications in the world's economy. i would urge all american and western business friends to be checking and even a cyber attack could have ramifications because of the interconnection of the supply chain across the world. >> very important warning indeed. you spoke of the allies. one of the allies, the closest allies from u.k. is in kyiv today with zelensky. his support for us is chal fging because he is challenged at home now in an extraordinary events. he's hanging on to his prime ministership but he did go to kyiv and want to playilatal of what he said. >> we have to face a grim

reality, which is that as we stand here vladimir -- today, more than 100,000 russian troops are gathering on oyour border in perhaps the biggest demonstration of hostility towards ukraine in our lifetimes. it goes without saying that a further russian invasion of ukraine would be a political disaster disaster. in my view it will be, for russia, for the world, a military disaster. >> so, do we have to see putin start pulling back some of the troops before this crisis can be ameliorated? >> again, the exact exit ramp and whether putin will choose to take it remains to be seen. i think you will have to see some relaxing of the pressure. again, recall this is one of the

reasons the ukrainians and you have mixed messages coming out of president zelensky verses the military establishment or images of ukrainians training on the weekends for an insurgent force to fight back. but recall the russians first massed the troops in spring of 2021. they didn't take action at that point and you're right that zelensky is trying not to completely spook out a whole economy and create chaos or give russia a reason to move forward. but at the same time, as we see our raid and other western aid flow into the country, it needs to get distributed to the army. the air force needs to be distributed. the civilian defense forces need to be armed. and i do believe this is not at all how putin thought both ukraine and the world would react to his as. >> i also wanted to turn your attention to pete williams

exclusive interview with fbi director wray. he said the u.s. is opening a new china-related counterintelligence investigation every 12 hours and says it blows his mind when he saw the extent of their intellectual property theft. as chair of the intelligence committee, what should the senate be doing? >> let me give you three quick responses. first, it is extraordinarily important, when we talk about the very real threat from china, that we make clear that our beef is with the communist party of china and theed all of president xi jinping. not with the chinese people, chinese americans or all over the world. if we don't make that clarity, we play right into the communist party's agenda, that this is western anti-china agenda and. we're not antichinese people. china's a great nation. this is been growing for years.

i'm very proud that the intelligence committee, even under president, bring the fbi, we bring the direct of national intelligence, our cyber forces and brief business group after business group on this threat. i would point out one of the curious facts is every group were willing to meet with us. the one group not willing to meet with us is these large private equity firms who are making so much money investing in the chinese tech firms that they don't want to hear the truth. i believe they're starting to change their tune but it was a curious fact. three, we need pass the china competes bill. the bill that makes the investment of semiconductors. one of the reasons we can't get a car is we don't have availability of semiconductors. we have china stealing intellectual property and they're trying to make huge

investments. tlab gone from low single digits and now in double digits. america's gone from 33% to 9%. this bipartisan, $52 billion investment in semiconductors and 5g and o would send a strong signal that america's back and create jobs in the country to help deal with inflation and send the signal working to chinese competition and technology. that's where the game is going to play without the chinese communist party in the next two years. >> thanks so much. thanks for taking questions on all subjects. and coming up, a shots for tots. good news on how close we are to children under five getting their first ocovid vaccine. this is "andrea mitchell reports" r first ocovid vaccine this is "andrea mitchell reports" es. glucerna live every moment

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while safe, may not be fully effective. joining me is dr. patel. this seems early, unusual. they have initial reporting from three doses that was not clear and had some issues. why proceed with a two-dose? >> it's help to feel go back to december when pfizer released a press release that their two-dose version under 5 between ages of 2 and 4 was not sufficient as you point out to get to the desired effectiveness or efficacy level as was safe. this is by press release. fast forward through an omicron surge, millions of children who have been been infected, many under the age of 5, and a lot of parents. what the strategy is to submit the data for 6 months to 4 years of age because 6 months to 2

years they found it was safe and efficacious. that's set. but for 2 to 4 we had a gap. so the kind of current thinking is pfizer will file this data, but they went ahead and added a third dose two months after that second dose for the ages 2 to 4. and they will be collecting data on that, and it should turn out, andrea, that everybody needs a third dose, including older children, include 2g to 5, and we'll see what happens for the under 2 set. if this sounds confusing, try to explain to people who are demanding vaccines right now, but there's a little bit of a process as you know with the fda. goes from the fda to the advisory committee and a cdc advisory committee. hopefully that happens in the month of february with vaccines available late february, early march for the under 5 group. >> you made it clear, but there are so many different factors involved. >> right. >> there's been a great deal of hesitancy for the older children, who have a very low

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