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so that is the only reason i am home. other than me trying to do this myself while having absolutely no skills as an audio engineer, a lighting engineer, and makeup artist, or camera operator, other than that, everything art operator, other than that, everything should be fine. ahem. forgive me for everything that may go wrong. i'm happy to be here. thank you for being here. we've got a lot to get to tonight. so, he was a late hire in the trump administration. they didn't hire him until year four in the trump administration. he hired him in march 20. the administration hired a new lawyer to work in vice president pence's office. en a man named gregory jacob. now, this was not gregory is jacob's first stint in the federal government, he had worked before in the george w. bush administration. he was a lawyer who worked on labor arabs in the george w.
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bush administration. but when he came back in march 2020, he came back for a big time job, as vice president pence's chief legal counsel. that is a big time job. of course, gregory jacob did not last a full year in that job because he started in march 2020 and the trump administration didn't last until march 2021, they lost the election. and the biden administration took over in january of '21. but even for that less than a year that he was there, that was really an eventful tenure for gregory jacob, especially during the last few months of his time serving as vice president pence's chief counsel on january 4th, 2021, so, two days before the attack on the capitol, final days of the trump administration, right, gregory jacob attended a meeting in the oval office there for the meet was the president, donald trump, the vice president, gregory
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jacob's boss, mike pence and the chief of staff, a lawyer friendly to him and lawyer named john eastman. john eastman was apparent eyely there at that january 4th meeting to tell vice president pence that he had to act, he had to do something on january 6th, when congress was set to meet to certify the election. eastman, reportedly at that meeting told vice president pence and his staff that the vice president should refuse to certify the election. and if he refused to certify the election then the results could be overturned in trump's favor. that was the meeting oval office, january 4th. gregory jacob was there for that meeting at the vice president's side. the very next day, january 5th, they did it again. that same trumpy lawyer, john eastman reportedly cornered gregory jacob, the vice president's top lawyer. cornered him in another office
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in the white house complex. and when he cornered him, he argued that the following day, january 6th, when it came time for vice president pence to count the electoral votes he should actually just reject all the electors for joe biden. that was his pitch. that meeting reportedly lasted two solid hours in the white house complex. and the day after that meeting, of course, was january 6th. and gregory jacob was there for the interruption of the electoral vote count. he watched his boss get escorted off the floor of the senate while a mob of trump supporters broke into the capitol hunting down mike pence to try to stop the certification of the election for biden. gregory jacob was there for that, he saw his boss get rusheded off to safety by the secret service. and then he emailed that same trumpy lawyer who had spent the last 48 hours trying to talk vice president pence into this scheme that he should stop the
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vert fiction of the election. he wrote thanks to your bull bleep, we are now under siege. and the quote-unquote siege is because you and your boss did not do what was necessary to allow this so the american people could see what happens. during the course of january 6th, they kept going back and forth. later on, the trump lawyer, eastman, emailed, this is after 150 police officers have been injured. a police officer is still in the hospital at this point. this is after multiple people died. while law enforcement was looked for what was left behind from ransacked offices that the mob had ma lauded late into the night. late that night, john eastman is
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still doing it. he wrote gregory jacob to tell him that vice president pence still should refuse to certify the election results. here's the important thing, though, vice president pence's counsel gregory jacob, he did more than just email back and forth with john eastman, with that lawyer who is still trying to get pence to heed the mob and overturn the election, keep trump in power. gregory jacob did more than just email with eastman that day. perhaps more importantly, he also took time to email himself. quote, after the unrest began on january 6, jacob jacob sent an email to memorialize his conversation with eastman from the day before. that was that two-hour meeting in the white house where eastman reportedly brow beat pence that he should throw out all the electors, gregory jacob apparently took contemporaneous
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or near contemporaneous notes of that email to save them, to memorialize them while the capitol siege was under way on january 6th. so this guy, gregory jacob, vice president pence's top lawyer, for the investigators trying to get to the bottom of donald trump's efforts to overthrow the u.s. government and prevent the newly elected president from being sworn in. for those investigators, gregory jacob san interesting fact witness, right? he was in the room when trump and this lawyer were pushing pence that they needed to go along with the scheme to overthrow the meeting. he had a two-hour meeting with this trump lawyer the following day trying to convey instructions, specific instructions for vice president pence to throw out the biden electors to overthrow the government, to overturn the election. gregory jacob as counsel has this interesting window into
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what trump allies were thinking and arguing for in realtime while the attack was in its final planning stages and while it was under way. even while the physical attack on the capitol was still under way, they were still pushing vice president pence to overturn the election. even when it was over, they were pushing vice president pence to overturn the election. and apparently, gregory jacob has a paper trail to back all of this up, having taken contemporaneous notes on what the trump side was telling and what they were telling vice president pence to do. interesting witness, right, if they can get him. well, today here was gregory jacob on his way to provide testimony to the january 6th investigators in congress. he testified to investigators for almost nine hours today. really. which is a very long time. part of the reason we know that, part of the reason that was confirmed tonight is because of comments from the chairman of the january 6th investigation.
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congressman bennie thompson of mississippi. i'm going to play you this from bennie thompson and a reporter. this is my favorite piece of tape from the january 6th investigation. you're about to see why. this is bennie thompson tonight talking to a reporter and confirming that, yeah, gregory jacob did come in and testify and it turned out to be a long day and a big deal. listen to how he spools it out. this is excellent. this is from tonight. >> how was your weekend, first of all? >> it was the end deer season. >> really? >> and i went deer hunting. >> did you get anything? >> i absolutely did. do you need some meat? >> i really don't -- i don't eat -- i like meat but i've never had deer meat. >> you never had deer meat? >> is it good? >> do you look it like steak? >> you can you do it any way. how do you like it? >> any kind of way i mean. >> what you can tell us about
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the greg jacob testimony today? >> well, it's still going on. >> still going? >> yeah. >> he obviously is close to former vice president, who you want to hear from. >> well, you know, it's -- we're glad he came and obviously, it's part of the work that we do. and he's a great patriot. he loves this country more so than other people who don't. >> so, a lot of news there. a., got a deer, venison is delicious, you should try it, anyway. b., also got the vice president's chief legal adviser in there. and yeah, we're heading into hour nine now. and in chairman thompson's words, turns out the guy is a great patriot. big day for the january 6 investigation, right? talking to this guy who may be a
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very, very important witness. of course, not all important witnesses have been coming forward to the committee. a large number of people in trump's circle have refused to cooperate with the investigation. including, interestingly, his chief of staff, mark meadows. today, nbc news had some really super interesting reporting that might help explain why meadows is no longer cooperating. yo might remember, the january 6th investigation in congress got up and running this summer, on july 1st. that's when the house voted to set up the investigation into the attack on the capitol into trump's attempts to overturn the election, july 1st. well, nbc's jonathan allen is now reporting that on july 26th, 3 1/2 weeks after the committee got set up, after the investigation got started. july 26th, donald trump's political pac donated $1 million to the conservative nonprofit where his chief of staff mark meadow currently works. that's the most money trump's pac donated to any of his
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political allies. that's the most money trump's pac donated to anyone in the last half of 2021. the other largest donation trump's pac made in that time was a $10,000 donation. almost all the other donations that the pac made were $5,000 donations. but for some reason right after the january 6th investigation got up and running, trump decided to have his pac give not $5,000, not $10,000 but $1 million to the organization that employs mark meadows, wow, a million bucks! huh. for what? as we know, mark meadows was subpoenaed by the january 6 investigation. as we also know, he initially cooperated, he turned over troves of documents and communication to the investigation. documents that led to some of the initial fascinating rounds of revelations out of that
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investigation. after that initial cooperation, all of a sudden, for some reason, mark meadows did a u-turn, said he changed his mind and would no longer be cooperating. so this new reporting from nbc on the money flow, the unexplained money flow from trump to meadows after the committee started its investigation is interesting, right? does that huge anomalous donation from trump's pac weeks after the january 6th got going have anything to do with why mark meadows all of a sudden stopped cooperating. because, so far, there really has been no good explanation for why meadows did that abrupt about-face. after he decided he was going stop cooperating with congress, mr. meadows, of course, was found in contempt for his refusal to cooperate. he was ultimately refused to the justice department, the u.s. justice department or prosecution. i should mention that the justice department has not made any kind of announcement about whether or not they plan to
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prosecute mr. meadows for the refusal to comply with subpoenas and other investigations from the investigation. but nevertheless, the january 6th investigation continue as pace. continues to spill out new eye-popping revelations all the time. last week, for example, we learned that investigators have obtained this document that was first obtained by politico.com. and it is a draft executive order prepared for president trump that would have authorized the military -- would have authorized the defense department to go around the country seizing voting machines after the 2020 election. cnn reported last night that was actually a second executive order like that banging around the trump white house. one that laid out the same scheme to have men go seize voting equipment around the country. but that second executive order wouldn't have had it done by the military. it would have had it done by the department of homeland security. well, now there's this new explosive reporting from michael
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schmitt and "the new york times," six weeks after election day with his hold on power slipping president donald trump directed his lawyer rudy giuliani to make a call. trump asked giuliani to ask the department of homeland security in key swing states, giuliani did so, calling the department's acting deputy secretary who said he lacked the authority to auditor impound the machines. the outreach to the department of homeland security came not long after attorney general bill barr raised the possibility of whether the justice department could seize voting machines. a previously undisclosed -- trump raised the idea whether the justice department could be used to seize the machines according to two people familiar with the matter. mr. trump told mr. barr that his lawyers had told him the department had the power to seize the machines as evidence of fraud. trump mentioned a specific state that had used the machines built
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by dominion voting systems because lawyers believed there had been fraud. mr. barr had been briefed extensively by federal law investigators about how the views were unfounded because there was no probable cause to believe a crime had been committed. and i meaner the more we learn more about trump's efforts to overthrow the government and prevent the next duly elected president from being sworn, the more it sounds a little like speed dating, right. he tries roping the defense department into this scheme. hey, send out the military and seize the voting machine. the military passed. then he turned to homeland security department, no, pass. also a no go. how about the justice department, bill barr have the justice department go out and seize the voting equipment. apparently, bill barr wasn't going to do it either. but in this new reporting from
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the "times," we learn about one more potential suitor, one more potential date that donald trump tried to get on board for his effort at an insurrection. this is what the "times" reports, quote, around the same time that mr. trump brought up the possibility of having the justice department seize the voting machines he also tried to have state lawmakers in states like michigan and pennsylvania that they should use local law enforcement agencies to take control of the machines. the state lawmakers refused to go along with the plan. you might remember there was reporting in days after the election how trump was calling up republican state legislates in states where he lost, trying to get them to throw out the election recalls. he made a show inviting republicans from michigan and pennsylvania to the white house to explain to them until late november about how he really won those two states and they should do something about it.
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but this new reporting in the "times" is that trump was not only telling these guys that joe biden lost their states, he was telling them that they should have local law enforcement in michigan and pennsylvania start seizing voting equipment. that reporting is brand-new. and, frankly, red hot. i mean, presently, local reporters in michigan and pennsylvania are now doing back flips to try to follow up on this reporting to try to contact those local officials who were in contact with trump after the election to find out what was said to them. to find out if there was ever an active plot to use law enforcement in the state of michigan, law enforcement in the state of pennsylvania to try to go get voting equipment at trump's insistence. he was asking them for that, did it go any farther than that? you know, this hoping up a whole new line of inquiry. after trump told state lawmakers they should have law enforcement seize voting machines. i mean -- we should hear about it from those local republicans
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in michigan and pennsylvania but we should also probably here about it from the january 6 investigation, potentially for anybody bringing criminal charges around this plot. did anybody actually try it? how was this demand from the president received? we've learned a lot about how trump tried to use the power of the federal government to seize voting machines to try and change the results of the election in his favor. was there a state level component of his plan, too? well, the january 6th investigation is trying to find out. just in the last hour, "the new york times" is newly reporting that the january 6 investigators are scrutinizing donald trump's involvement in proposals to seize voting machines after the 2020 election, including efforts to create a legal basis for direct will go national security agencies to take subpoena an extreme action. that's according to three people with knowledge of the committee's activities. the "times" is reporting, quote it is not clear what evidence the committee is examining as it
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looks at any involvement. but the committee recently received documents from the trump white house, including what court filings describe as a document containing presidential findings concerning the security of the election after it occurred and ordering various actions, joining us now is michael schmitt, he's the washington correspondent from "the new york times." he's one of the reporters who broke the story about trump's involvement in seizing the voting machines. it's nice to have you here tonight. congratulations on this scoop. >> thanks for having me. >> there's been a lot of revelations in the last 48 hours. let me ask you if i put anything wrong if i put the emphasis wrong, is there anything i missed on anything that your colleagues reported? >> no, that was a great summation of it. i think for us, the most important thing here is is that there's a lot of different things that have emerged in the past year. that we've learned that donald
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trump advisers and republicans across the country did. we also know a lot of what donald trump said out loud and did publicly. what our reporting, we thought, advanced and what made it important is that it brought trump himself into the effort. in a way that we had not seen before. this was more than just using, you know, calling people and pressuring them and filing fruitless lawsuits. this was contemplating using three of the most powerful institution, not just in the country, but in the world. the department of against, the justice department and the department of homeland security. and to use that apparatus, as the president of the united states, the person who controls them, you know, and consider
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using them in this effort to remain in power, sets itself out as one of the more extraordinary efforts that was under way to undermine this election. i'm not diminishing the other things that he tried. but we thought that this attempt was in a special lane of itself. and he was there and was more than just curious about the idea. >> do we know, mike, what will the -- why they thought it would be necessary, or helpful, or advance the plot to physically seize voting equipment? i mean, whether they were going to have defense or homeland security or the justice department pull off the scheme, why did they want the physical equipment? >> it's a great question, and even as we were finishing our reporting on this, i was
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thinking to myself, well, why did they want these machines? because it's -- it's so different than any other type of election interference, we've seen in this country. to our best understanding from our reporting they wanted the machines because they thought that the machines where they had been hack -- the conspiracy was that the dominion machines had been hacked. and that they needed to get their hands on the machines so they could show that there had been hacking and that votes had been turned, you know, away from trump that, you know, should have been for him. so, they needed the machines in order to do that. at the same time, though, and i don't know how this relates to it, flynn wanted to re-run the election. flynn wanted for the government to have another election. i have no indication that the
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seizing of it was related to that. but flynn, in these television appearances in which he said out loud the same stuff that's being reported here, talked about the idea of re-running the election. >> i mean, presumably, what happens here, if it works, right, if they can get a federal agency to head out in force and start seizing voting equipment all over the country that, at the very least, creates such a controversy. creates such a stir, creates an appearance of seriousness about what's gone wrong in the election that would under gird with steel any effort by the election to decertify election results to say there's some answer that they can't clearly say that biden won or that the
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results were definitive and conclusivive. in the same way we saw the justice department draft to georgia where they were going to hype claims of georgia to georgia legislators to reconsider the final electors there. presumably, this would have been such a scandal, it would have been such a constitutional crisis in the country that it would have opened the door to friendly legislators in those states actually saying that the election wasn't over. >> correct. the problem was is that he couldn't find someone to do it. and it's a constant theme that runs through his presidency. whether it's trying to fire mueller or, you know, a range of different things. this is a pack. he wanted to do something, he didn't want to do it himself. he asks someone else to do it. in the oval office with barr, he
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says, my lawyers says the justice department can seize these things, is this something the justice department could do? you know, without sort of going that extra step to really sort of directly ask barr about it. and the thing i was thinking about as you're asking that question, is that in this instance, in this really, really important period of time where you could argue that it came down to bill barr and ken cuccinelli basically giving trump the heisman and saying, to, we're not going to do this. if that were to happen today, based on what has happened with the republican party and the way that trump has continued to tug it in his direction and sort of the way they have continued to entertain, not just entertain, but go along with what he said, i don't think it would have been -- you know, if that were to happen today and he were president, i don't think he would have such a difficult time finding someone to do it. i don't think -- you know, there are governors that have shown
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immense loyalty to him across the country that are more and more loyal to him today than they were before. and, you know, i think if this had happened at a later date, he may have been more successful. >> yeah. a litmus test for hiring many of those people in the next trump administration if there is one. not endorsing potential candidates around the country the litmus test for whether or not those hires happen, would be would you go along with something like this, at least that's how it seems, michael schmidt, washington correspondent for "the new york times." fascinating reporting. for helping us understand this today. thanks for coming on. >> thanks for having me. >> we've got much more ahead tonight. well, stay with us. tonight. well, stay with us remember the three ps. what are the three ps?
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it all came in really, really early. in the early morning hours. it was just after 6:00 a.m. this morning in georgia, ft. valley state in georgia. students at that school simultaneously got this message from the college. it said in all caps, quote, emergency alert, do not reporter to campus. if ort valley university has received notice of a bomb threat, law enforcement is investigatings. residential students remain in dorms. that was in georgia. at howard university in d.c.,
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theirs came in at 3:30. shelter in place, a bomb threat against the university is being investigated. all persons on campus are advised to shelter in place until more information is available. in new orleans, at xavier university, this is the warning to students, again, all caps, emergency alert. bomb threat on campus. xavier has received a bomb threat coording with law enforcement. residential students should stay in their rooms until further notice. at philander smith college in arkansas. we have received a bomb threat this morning. before 5:00 a.m., 4:50 this morning, morgan state in baltimore, they got a bomb threat that prompted the university to close its campus for the entire day. they issued a shelter in place for people onsite. minutes later, a little bit after 5:00 a.m., another hbcucppin state not a threat.
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at least 14 historically black colleges and universities got bomb threats. the fbi and atf say they're aware of serious threats working with law enforcement agencies. as far as we know, nobody was hurts today. so far, no bombs have gone off. but obviously, this is a disgusting and troubling and terrorizing pattern. and then 14 hcbcs got bomb threats, yesterday, at least six hbcus got bomb threats, earlier this month, at least eight hbcus got threats that prompted school closures and lockdowns, again, beginning of january, a ton of them. yesterday, a ton of them. today, an explosion of them. and today, beyond just 14 hbcus with threats, it got even more disturbing, beth it
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thune-cookman university in daytona beach. they got a threat. according to the news, before 5:00 a.m., someone called law enforcement and identified themselves as part of a neo-nazi group. they then proceeded to tell the dispatcher that he had planted bombs in duffel bags around the campus and also planned to shoot up the school. again, that's bethune-cookman university in daytona beach, florida. a similar story out of arkansas. a suspect called 911 and said he was a neo-nazi and set c-4 explosives at two nearby hbcus in arkansas. white house press secretary jen psaki said president biden is aware of these threats and that the white house condemns these disturbing threats. leaders across the federal government are calling for a thorough and complete investigation. why is this escalating? how serious are these threats? and how do we make good for the harm that's already done to all
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of these historically black colleges and universities for the third day in the last month of multiple threats to multiple institutions. we've got more on that next. stay with us. stay with us
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this morning, the president of morgan state university in baltimore, morgan state is maryland's largest historically black university, the president sent this message to the campus community. it says, quote, dr. morgan family, since sending out an alert earlier this morning about the bomb threat we've received a few of you have contacted me to inquire whether this is real. unfortunately and sadly it is. the campus is being searched building by building this morning with our residential halls piece searched first. morgan is one of the most historical and consequential universities in the nation. our history has been one where we have endured all kinds of challenges and have always emerged stronger. i'm hopeful that the bomb
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threats to these hbcu institutions will be investigated by the fbi. again, horgan state, morgan state university in baltimore is one of more than a dozen of historically black colleges and universities have had bomb threats that's on the heels of others still in early january. since that first wave of threats less than a month ago, we can report that presidents of these historically black colleges have been meeting not only with law enforcement, but most recently with the department of homeland security which suggests something at least law enforcement's perceptions at the highest level as to whether all of these threats are linked. joining us now is david wilson he's president of morgan state university in baltimore. president wilson, that you ever for being here in this difficult time. >> it is a difficult time, thanks for having me.
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>> is there anything more that you can tell us about the kinds of threat that you all have been experiencing at morgan state and how you've been handling it thus far? >> first of all, today was a very sfesful and exacting day for us, i awakened to a phone call from my chief of police here informing me that we have received a bomb threat and the caller indicated that there were seven bombs here on the campus. you've read the email that i sent to the campus. we immediately went into crisis mode. and i have to say, though, almost an hour or so later, we received a communique from the regional fbi, we have since, of course, keefd communique from the department of homeland security. our local and state officials have reached out to us. and our congressional delegation, individuals at the highest office of the governor here, and so we are seeing, you know, great collaboration across this space.
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but certainly this is a very, very disturbing period for us here in morgan state university. >> the involvement of federal agencies like you just described the fbi and homeland security department in particular, suggests not only federal governmentest from in this, but also, potentially, that some of these threats may be connected. we can't ignore the fact that you were more than one of a dozen universities, historically black universities that received this kind of threat. there were more yesterday. there were more less than a month ago. i don't need to ask you to tell us about any ongoing investigations or anything to which you've been taken into confidence. but is there anything you can tell us about how federal authorities see this or perceived links between where all of these threats are coming from? >> well, certainly, we don't talk about the investigation in terms of the information that's been shared with us. but there's something really, really strange going on here.
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of course, you know, today, we had just a plethora of hbcus to receive these kinds of threats. and when you couple that with the ones that have received the threats before, there have been 22 threats to our hbcu campuses. and certainly, i called for an immediate, thorough investigation. on the part of the fbi and on the part of the homeland security. we need to get to the bottom of this. we need to find out what the heck is going on that is enabling individuals, who knows what the motives are, to threaten our students, to threaten our university community. to threaten these historic institutions that have always had their doors open for anyone who wanted to come. and it seems that the only thing that we are doing is to say to the nation, this is how democracy should actually
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unfold. we believe in the democratic ideals. and we are bringing students in. and putting them in the position where they can become innovators, our engineers, our lawyers, our doctors, our elected officials. and morgan has been doing that for 150 or more years. we want to make sure that whomever is responsible for these threats that that person is apprehended and that person is actually prosecuted to the highest extent possible. >> david wilson is the president of morgan state university in maryland. sir, i'm sorry that your campus and you're dealing with all of this tonight, but i thank you for helping us understand this really upsetting situation. >> and again, thanks for having me. >> appreciate it. >> following this latest string of threats today as president wilson was just describing there, more than 20 historically black colleges and universities now having received these
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threats in less than a month, including more than a dozen today. following the latest threats today, the house speaker nancy pelosi the chair of the black caucus joyce beatty and the founder of the hbcu act in congress issued this statement, the continued bomb threats against hbcus are hate crimes that must be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. this third round of bomb threats on historically black colleges and campuses, essential by jars that it coming during black history month when we celebrate but remember the violence so many had to endure for voting rights. we know from history that in spite of external threats hbcus are resilient institutions that persist. we are closely monitoring the situation and doing everything we can to bring an end to these threats. terrorism and racism have no
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place on college campuses or anywhere on this nation. joining us congresswoman alma adams. she's founder and chair of the hbcu caucus in congress. congresswoman, thank you for being here? >> thank you, rachel, for having me today, the first day of black history month when we should be celebrating and not dealing with these kind of things. i listened to the president talk about the threat on his campus, but when you look at the threats across this country, they are acts of terror, hate crimes, and yes, indeed, they must be fully investigated and prosecuted. and clearly, that's what we have asked to have done. i'm the product of an hbcu, i taught 40 years on a campus. i have a grandson at howell. i talked to him today as well. we're very concerned, and the threats are really concerning to all of us, so our federal and state law enforcement agencies must get involved. i believe they will.
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we certainly have had some conversations through my office with them as well. we want to continue to follow this. and every person involved whether it's one, two, three or four or more should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. >> you noted in your statement today, congresswoman, about the adversity that is such a striking part of so many individual hbcus in their history. the things that these campuses have gone through, the things that their student bodies have been up against. the way they have been individually targeted in some states and in some places over their long histories. have you ever seen what appears to be a coordinated effort, terrorizing them all, targeting so many historically black institutions all at once? i feel like i've covered a lot of news stories and a lot of political stories about, you know, students being disenfranchised and campuses being targeted and there being discrimination efforts. but something like this
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affecting such a pretty big swath of these organizations all at once. this is unfamiliar territory to me? >> well, it's unfamiliar to me, too. like i said, i spent 40 years on a campus, very involved as part of the bipartisan hbcu caucus with our students and to know we've not seen this, it's a major disruption in terms of the flow of scholarship and education and getting to class. and all those kinds of things, and the students are afraid. and they should be. they need to be careful. they need to be vigilant. if you see something, say something, even if you don't think it's much. but in spite of all of the external threats, with the institutions, they will persist through all forms of adversity. and they have. and i certainly appreciate speaker pelosi and chairwoman bass and everyone, my colleagues, in joining with us, speak out to against these
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despicable acts. >> congresswoman alma adams, one last question for you here, and that is about the sort of federal response that i was just describing. we just heard from the president of morgan state that have been contacts with the fbi. there have been contacts with homeland security. clearly, there's a federal government response here. we heard from white house press secretary today that president biden has been briefed on the threats and is aware of this. is there anything else that you think needs to be done in terms of federal government response? or do you think the administration is taking this seriously and putting the right resources on trying to find out what happened here and trying to put a stop to this? >> well, i think the administration is doing an excellent job of doing that, keeping us informed. we're going to have to all work together. of course, we're writing letters and putting out petitions. and trying to make sure that we stay in touch with these chancellors and presidents and our students so that we can find out what's going on, who's doing
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it. because terrorism and racism have no place on college campuses. you know, education is the powerful thing. and as our students need to be educated. and their education doesn't need to be disrupted in this way and that's exactly what's happening right now. we're doing what i think we need to do. we're all pulling together and being support to make sure we're getting into this. >> congresswoman alma adams is the founder and co-hair of the hbcu caucus in congress. congresswoman, thank you so much for your time tonight. i am sorry that this is happening. i'm glad to hear that you feel the resources are in the rooting place and going in the right directions. let's hope for arrests soon. thank you. >> thank you. thank you rachel, thank you for having me. have a good night. >> we'll be right back. stay with us. we'll be right bak stay with us
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this weekend, former president trump lashed out at prosecutors who appear to have been in their sights in multiple
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ongoing criminal and civil investigations. he told his supporters he wants them in the streets in d.c., in georgia, in new york, if these prosecutors act against trump. well, today, we have some new reporting from "the washington post" that provides another window into why the investigation like the one being carried out by the new york attorney general lal tissueia james maybe concerned for him to take the streets. the post reports that the a.g.'s investigation has subpoenaed records about the trump hotel in d.c. that's a property that the trump organization leases from the federal government. it's a federally owned property. letitia james' investigation is reportedly looking into whether trump got the lease on that property through fraud. whether the trump organization lied about its assets in order to obtain the lease on the property and the loans they use to pay for it. we know from documents that were filed by attorney general james
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last month that it was trump's adult daughter ivanka trump who reported to the attorney general negotiated a lease from the federal government and associated a loan from deutsche banc to pay for it. ms. james is arguing that the means by committee trump administration described their own federal government condition in order to get the lease and the loan were both fraudulent. here's one example, as part of their statement of assets to try to get the lease and loan, the trumps listed value of apartments they owned including one that ivanka trump was renting personally at the time. under the option, she apparently had the option to buy that apartment for the cost of $8.5 million. but the forms submitted to get the loan for the d.c. hotel that very same apartment was listed as being worth $20 million. a few years later listed it as being worth as $25 million even though there's was an option to
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buy it for $8.5 million. attorney general james is looking into that illegal inflation of the trump family and the trump organization's financial situation for a whole bunch of properties thanks to "the washington post" we now know that the attorney general's investigation has subpoenaed the federal government about trump's deal for that property in d.c. as well. if i were the former president, i don't know if i'd be calling for my supporters to riot if i was indicted in this investigation but i might be concerned. we'll be right back. concerned. we'll be right back.
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all right. that's going to do it for me tonight, i will see you again tomorrow. i will probably still be here. might as well get used to it. i know it's weird, but happy 2022. "way too early with jonathan lemire" is up next. this is amazing. brady is walking away with the most super bowl appearances wins and mvps. [ applause ] it's strange to say, but he's basically the nfl's meryl streep. [ laughter ] jimmy fallon celebrating tom brady as the football legend officially announces his retirement. folks, i'm barely hanging on. the other big story from the nfl, an explosive lawsuit accusing the legal and three teams of racist hiring practices. the question is, how is the nfl defending itself? plus, whoopi