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using a fake video. and we're learning more about the raid in syria. we'll talk about it with democratic senator hirono. and a new jobs report reveals that the economy added 467,000 jobs despite the omicron surge. this as congresswoman lofgren introduce as bill that would overall the court him is. she will join me to share more on that and the latest from the january 6th committee. we begin this hour with the latest on the he is came lating tensions between russia and ukraine. vladimir putin and xi jinping issued a joint statement harshly criticizing the united states, opposing nato expansion and standing against what they called, quote, interference in the internal affairs of other
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nations. putin's visit to chai in comes as russia continues to board up either forces along ukraine. and one day after the u.s. accused russia of planning to release a video of a fake attack by ukraine, complete with actors to use as an excuse to justify invasion. and we asked why the u.s. decided to release this information. >> we are not saying that this is what they are going to do. we are saying that this is an option under consideration and that they have used these sorts of pretexts in the past to justify military action and we think that this will make it much more difficult for them after the fact to claim that they had to whatever they decide to do. >> also new details about the u.s. raid in syria. a defense official says that the u.s. is examining electronic devices that special operations forces gathered during the raid yesterday. the devices are believed to
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belong to the isis leader who killed himself and several others when he detonated a bomb. with me now to talk about all of it, hadley campbell in kyiv. and also courtney kube. and also peter baker. peter, the u.s. has released a lot of information about this alleged russian threat including intelligence about alleged fake video plot. it all seems so incredible. you've covered putin and russia for a long time. will releasing this information make a difference? >> i think that the idea is that we put out there that the united states knows that this is what they will do and it will damage any credibility that the false flag operation would have.
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look, this is -- russians are sort of the alex jones of world powers. they traffic in conspiracy theories, they believe conspiracies by the west that are farfetched and they promote them through these provocative actions. when they first seized crimea back in 2014, they pretended that those men in green suits were not russian troops when in fact of course they were. so this is all a normal practice out of moscow and i think what you are seeing here by the understand is a way of trying to call them on it in advance rather than after the fact trying to say that that wasn't real, that was just fake. >> so i don't know if release a of this thing happening. so far what the u.s. is saying is that they are planning possibility of maybe doing a
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movie. >> yeah, there is a lot of skepticism from the stapt state department yesterday. and the united states government says that they don't want to do anything to compromise intelligence sources and methods. look, it is appropriate to be skeptical and to push the american government just like we pushed every authority when they make assertions like this. but again, it is in keeping with the kind of thing that we have seen out of russia in the past. i think that that is why there is a plus a ability to it. >> courtney, how concerned are military leaders? >> there is a larger concern of a false flag. it is not so much what we heard yesterday about this possible video that they may be putting out, that they may be creating to create some sort of a pretext forukraine, but it is more about what that they could
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do, actually trying to potentially stage something inside ukraine that they could then use. and i think that we also really need to underscore here this is not just about getting a message to the russians particularly vladimir putin that the u.s. may know and the western alliance may know these kinds of things that they are working on, this is also about getting this information to the russian public. officials who i speak with say that there is a hope that they can get information to the russian public so that if in fact there is some sort of a false flag, they too may know that there was not some real pretext for russia invading ukraine. there is a real concern that information is not getting to the russian people and because of that, if there is an invasion, they may actually support it because they may believe that there is some sort of a military pretext for it. so don't under estimate the united states government and the british government putting information out like this also to get to the russian people as
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much as it is to the russian leadership. >> false flags have been used throughout history. and i know that we have a bit of a satellite delay, but how does the ukranian government view information about this russian fake video plot? >> they actually haven't seen it yet. they too are living off of the narrative from the white house that it does exist, they have said that they are actually pretty pleased that the u.s. intelligence community has come up with this evidence. and the reason behind that of course is that ukraine has said again and again that this is the kind of tactic that the russian playbook comes up with on a regular basis. and sitting here in kiev they would like to see the rest of the world coming to an understanding of what it is what they are up against. and this is a community that has
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to deal with the buildup of troops, cyberattacks and increased pressure economically as well. and when i spoke earlier today with this country's foreign minister, he said that at least for round one, ukraine and the west is winning. listen in. >> what we're seeing today is that diplomacy works. that the threat of invasion in department and early january and middle january, then late january, is postponed. and it means that ukraine and the west won against russia in this first round. >> you feel like they have already won? >> we have won in this round by pushing russia to keep this military plan on the table but not actually activating it. >> reporter: and that was the foreign minister who said that they feel as if so far the west has won. here in kiev, it is pretty quiet i have to say, but you have to
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think about this more broadly. obviously when we talk about vladimir putin, he is in china as you mentioned, and this is all about economic diplomacy. he understands that if there is severe sanctions as the west as been threatening, this could hit him closer to home, an economy that is smaller than the size of california. and where is he going to sell his natural resources, his gas, his oil? he would have to sell it in china for example. they have already been signing some deals earlier. and i asked the ukranian foreign minister about that, i said does this bother you guys that this could potentially undermine any western sanctions? and he said listen, at the end of the day, the infrastructure that russia has when it comes to their natural gas going to european markets has been built since the soviet era and it cannot be matched by anything that you can get in china. >> and very interesting. peter, i'd like your thoughts on this because whether the west has won so far some could say
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that maybe putin has won a lot. that pipeline has been okayed pretty much, it is fait accompli. the troops that he is sending to the border of you ukraine has caused the united states to discuss the possibility of not sending any defensive missiles to ukraine, the whole issue of nato and ukraine has been definitely defined. so, you know, putin has won a lot too. >> i think that you could make the argument that he has destabilized ukraine and he is trying to drive a wedge between the united states and nato allies. really the goal to some extent is to get the united states out of europe. but it has backfired. if the goal is to get nato out of russia's backyard, right now they are moving further into it. there are additional troops to poland, romania, nato allies
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that we're sending troops to in on the to reassure them because of their concerns about russia aggression. so the bottom line, if what putin wanted was to get the united states out of europe and get nato to basically start falling apart, it has done the opposite, it has begun pulling nato together. there are differences among the ale allies. but this is what nato was built for and in some ways putin is giving this a new mission. >> and also i want to ask about syria, the operation that took out the leader of isis. what does the u.s. hope to learn from the electronic devices seized during that raid? >> so there is always that period after one of these raids that they call site exploitation. they try to grab up everything that they can. computers, hard drives, cellphones, any files there. you may remember that they got quite a trove of intelligence out of the bin laden raid
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including new video the world hand seen hasn't seen hand seen of him. and so they hope to get any devices that might indicate any impending operation.seen of him. and so they hope to get any devices that might indicate any impending operation. it is not clear if they were able to get that or what they were able to find on this site. we have to point out that qurayshi detonated a massive bomb before the u.s. was even able to get into the building. so it is possible that some things were destroyed. but we hope to hear in the coming days and weeks after that they have been able to go through whatever they gathered up on site if they were able to get anything that was actionable or might teach them more about isis and the isis leader. >> thank you all for being with me. turning now to the winter storm making its way to the northeast after pummelling a
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large swathe of the country. hundreds of thousands are without power, many in texas, fearing a repeat of last year's power grid failure. freezing temperatures are expected again today. nearly 4,000 flights have been canceled as the national weather service warns of impossible travel conditions. and morgan chesky is in dallas. what are conditions like where you are this morning? >> reporter: yeah, we're about halfway into this weather event, a frigid morning here in dallas. temperatures in the low 20s. but we know that the windchill dipped to single digits in certain parts of north texas. amarillo expected to hit negative 16 overnight in the windchill. and this is really a bit of cautious optimism being felt by texans right now because the big concern going into this was the state's power grid which was absolutely crippled last year leaving millions in the dark in, the cold for days on end. we know the biggest drain on the
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power grid was going to happen at some point today. that is when the temperatures statewide were going to dip to their lowest point. and that is when they anticipated that the grid would really be tested. as of right now, there are no grid-related outages according to officials to speak of. however, there are still tens of thousands of texans that are in the dark right now because of local outages. keep in mind that when the storm rolled in, we saw a significant ice accumulation on trees, on power lines and we've heard multiple reports of issues there for another example, just about 100 yards from where i'm standing, we witnessed someone slide out on the road and slam into a power pole causing a transformer to blow. so when you have weather conditions this brutally cold, there are a multitude of things that can go wrong. governor abbott is sending crews
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out to respond as needed. meanwhile, this is all part of a system that is stretching to the northeast and yesterday spawned a rare winter tornado in alabama, the small community of sawyerville. i believe that we have images from there. just showing the damage. authorities have confirmed at least one person died from that tornado that struck midafternoon. and this weather is far from over. back here in texas, temperatures aren't expected to rise above freezing in earnest until tomorrow for the majority of the state. so it will be another very cold and potentially dangerous day here in texas. >> and did you start by telling me that amarillo will see minus 19 or 20 windchill factors? >> so that was the windchill that they were anticipated over. that is in the panhandle of texas. and to go hundreds and hundreds
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of miles to corpus christi on the coast, they were under a windchill advisory on the coast borderline unheard of. >> morgan chesky, thank you so much. stay warm, my friend. still ahead, a surprising jobs report during the surge of omicron. we'll break it down. and plus we'll talk ukraine and the supreme court nomination with senator hirono, next. mhire , there is no destination. uh, i-i'm actually just going to get an iced coffee. well, she may have a destination this one time, but usually -- no, i-i usually have a destination. yeah, but most of the time, her destination is freedom. nope, just the coffee shop. announcer: no matter why you ride, progressive has you covered with protection starting at $79 a year. voiceover: 'cause she's a biker... please don't follow me in.
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first deployment of u.s. forces have left for eastern europe after president biden ordered a troop presence as russia as thousands of troops along the border of ukraine. approximately 1700 service members from the 82nd airborne division left from ft. bragg yesterday for poland as other service members deploy to germany and romania.
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joining me now from ft. bragg is cal perry. what did you hear from the service members as they got ready to deploy? >> reporter: we talk about the 50,000 service members who serve here on ft. bragg, but we don't often talk about the 200,000 family members that also live here. a quarter of a million people live on this base and it is so often the families that have that heavy burden when their loved ones go away and so we spoke to brittany fuller, and we wanted to find out what is it like when the president makes that decision and you are waiting for the phone to ring. take a listen. >> its so hard just because you never know when they are going to deploy. just yesterday we were on the phone at 1:00 and then i didn't hear from him until 10:00 at night and he could have deployed. so i could have never known, he would have never been able to contact me and so i would have been thinking that he didn't love me anymore and found
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someone else. >> reporter: and that rings so true to so many members of our military and their families. why these troops? we can show you some video from the actual flight line yesterday. our colleague kerry sanders was able to get this video. this is the 82nd airborne, and it prides itself on being ready within 18 hours and that is why brittany fuller's boyfriend is always on standby. this is the life that these soldiers live and 2,000 of them are headed to europe right now. >> extraordinary reporting. you said 250,000 people live on that base. thank you for being with me. and now to continue our conversation, democratic senator mazie hirono. and senator, always a pleasure to see you. senior administration officials came to capitol hill yesterday to brief you and your colleague on the tensions between russia and ukraine. were you satisfied with the information that you received?
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as you know, this was a classified briefing so i can't get into the substance of it, but question all know that we'll do everything that we can to prevent russia from further aggression. >> do you feel that indeed as president biden said some time ago that it is maybe probable that russia could maybe have some incursion in ukraine? >> we've already seen the aggression and i think that it is pretty hard to predict what putin will do. but when he puts 100,000 troops along the border, i think that we should be prepared for further incursions. and that is what we're doing. including by the way congress considering further major, major sanctions against russia if they do anything that would eventually result in those kinds of imposed sanctions. >> and some of the folks on the senate are finalizing a bill that would impose huge sanctions
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on russia. >> yes. >> some could be put into effect immediately before even putin decides whether or not to invade. earlier this week the chair of the house foreign affairs committee gregory meeks told me that it would be a bad idea because it would mean that putin has little incentive not to go into ukraine. where do you stand on that? >> that is why there is a debate going on and our formulations committee as well as among senators as to whether we should do something much morrow active. so that remains. so we are prepared to go that route.active. so that remains. so we are prepared to go that route. i think that the main thing is to understand that there is a readiness. we are ready. >> you're also a member of the judiciary committee which will be in spotlight again soon as it considers president biden's nominee for supreme court.
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do you expect there to be a major battle over his nomination? >> i hope not. i know that the president will select a woman who will be highly qualified and who will be able to serve as a justice in a fair and impartial way which is more that i can say about the former president's selections. so it will be somebody who is very highly qualified. i look forward to the process and we know that the senators will have plenty of time to meet with her and to engage in the appropriate advice and consent of this person. >> senator, thank you so very much for being with me this morning. >> thank you. >> always appreciate your time. pleasure to see you. still ahead, a new report on a biden administration policy that one top democratic senator is calling unconscionable r r is calling unconscionabl
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federal hate crime charge. and the trial begins next week. his father withdrew his plans to plead guilty yesterday just days after a young rejected a plea deal. and joining me now blayne alexander. what is the latest from the courtroom? >> well, that hearing itself lasted less than five minutes. it was very quick. and we now know that all three men who have been convicted of the murder of ahmaud arbery will go to trial to face federal hate crime charges. so the jury selection set to begin on monday morning. and we know that both father and son gregory and travis mcmichael along with william roddie bryan will face trial. and what is interesting is that both father and son were -- son actually pled guilty, father was preparing to plead guilty, so that now raises questions about what jury selection looks like. when you talk about a possible taint to jury pool knowing that
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they were preparing to or had entered a plea of guilty and now going to face trial in this. now, we're waiting to hear from the mother of arbery and her attorney to see how they are reacting to this. we are that wanda cooper jones was very much against any sort of plea deal. and she now has gotten her wishes. here is what her attorney told me yesterday. take a look. >> for wanda, she made a promise to her son that she would get him justice. and she has had to go through an awful lot to get the out comes that we've seen so far and she has repeatedly said if it shows going to court every three years to deal with these men on appeal or several trials after today, and there are additional accountability, she is looking to the trials through the attorney general's office, she is willing do it. >> and a quick piece of context
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to this, of course pleading guilty would mean that they would admit in open court that they were racially motivated when they chased down and ultimately killed arbery. and i asked would that have brought her any sort of comfort. he says that at this point, she is so adamant that they serve time in a state prison and not be transferred to federal custody. and that is what the plea deal would have allowed. and she says even hearing that had mission in open court would not bring her comfort. she want to see them going to trial. >> thank you. and keeping a close eye on the white house as president biden is scheduled to speak about the january jobs report which was way better than many economists expected. and the government reported today that employers created 467,000 new jobs last month. the unemployment rate rose 0.10.
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and hispanic unemployment remains unchanged. with me now to explain all of this is ron santos, nbc senior analyst and commentator. always great to talk to you. you can translate what all this means? >> absolutely. and we had a better than expected number principally because it appeared that employers kept some of their seasonal workers on longer. it was expected that 9 omicron variant that forced many to stay home during january could have turned that number negative, but it didn't. we have a strong employment market and a strong economy. and so that is good news for main street but not such great news for wall street insofar as interest rates are going up and in march and so the stock market
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is struggling with that issue this morning. >> so how does it happen that 709,000 more jobs than were previously reported in november and december, how does that happen? i mean, we're not talking, you know, 500 people. >> and the survey that the bureau of labor statistics uses has become a little less reliable to an september because the companies that participate in the survey have either been slow to respond or haven't participated at all of late. there has been a declining amount of interaction between big companies and the labor department. so we're not getting accurate reads on a month to month basis. but once the numbers aretalried if they come in late, we see these upward revisions that you can see there in those blue months. quit rate averaging about h 4
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million a month and still a lot of jobs yet unfilled. participation rate went up, averagely hourly earnings went up 0.7%. so pretty much all good news. >> and meanwhile not good news for meta, they had a bad day. stock falling 26%. biggest one day stock decline in history. i think that they are down like 2% today. what is going on there? >> well, a couple things. they are getting increased competition from the likes of tiktok which is being used -- if you have, you know, gen z kids being used more. and they also have some issues with apple over privacy that has made facebook and some subsidiaries less effective. and there is a drop of users as
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well. and so they lost about $270 billion in market cap, biggest ever for a single stock ever. and on the flip side amazon after the close yesterday reported much better than expected earnings and that is listing the nasdaq because they had a blowout quarter. so did snap, pinterest. so good moves there. >> and i can't think that you enough for being on with me. >> always my pleasure. >> i always have a problem understanding until you clarify. thank you. we'll continue to keep an eye on the white house of course taking you to the president's remarks on the latest jobs report as soon as it begins. and plus a sweeping new bill that would overhaul the immigration court system. congresswoman lofgren will join us in her first national tv interview about the new
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call today to learn more. 40 past the hour. in washington a sweeping new bill by our next guest seeks to transition the immigration court system to an independent judiciary making it similar to a u.s. tax court. the legislation comes as roughly 1.6 million pending cases are stuck in the backlog of the u.s. immigration court system. largest amount in our nation's history. joining me now is congresswoman lofgren from california. she is chairperson of the committee on house administration and member of the judiciary committee. and one of the lawmakers tasked with investigatings the january 6th family. i'm pleased that you would have the time to speak with us. thank you. walk us if you would through what difference it would make
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for people seeking asylum here in the u.s. or people in the process, how would this address this massive backlog? >> well, it is not a bill primarily to address the backlog. it is primarily to address the rule of law. right now immigration judges are appointed by the department of justice. and their decisions, they set in a courtroom, they see the facts, they make a decision and that can be overturned administratively by someone who has not even looked at the facts. it is not really what we think of when we think of a court. so this has been an issue for many years. we had a hearing a number of years ago, i chaired the immigration subcommittee, we had a hearing just a few weeks ago and it is not -- it is not independent, it is not fair. it is not orderly. and we want to bring the rule of law. now, as a side benefit, this may
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also increase the efficiency of the courts. the testimony we received in our hearing was that since the immigration judges really don't have sufficient control over the calendar, things tend to get gummed up, they are held over, people show up and that actually leads to inefficiencies. but really for the backlog in as asylum cases, this bill won't solve that. >> so talk to me about how the bill would change things. >> right now we have what is called article i judges and they seven for a term of years, 12 years generally, and the bankruptcy courts is an example, the tax court is another. there are specialty courts. the judges are appointed by the appellate division and supervised by the appellate
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division. they are not controlled by the political branches. and when you go to court, what you want to believe and you should be able to count on is that the decisions will be made based on the facts and the law not some political agenda. and that is what this bill would achieve. >> congresswoman, you've been on the forefront of immigration issues for years working with both republicans and democrats to try to get something done on immigration reform. do you see this as, i don't know, a first step in something that could maybe include some comprehensive real immigration reform? >> well, i don't know. we had a very big bipartisan bill i worked on and authored that took us almost a year to write. the farm work hours modernization act. may have been the only truly bipartisan bill that was written because we had the united farm workers union, the western
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growers and other employers. we had republican members of congress as well as democrats at the table as we wrote the bill. we had a good bipartisan vote in the house and now it is sitting in the senate. so we can do bipartisanship. this bill -- there are a number of republican members who told me that they thought that this was a good idea. i think that republicans in the house are a little skittish about immigration. so i thought that it was a good idea to put this bill out there. let people see that there is no hidden agenda, there this is just about the rule of law. >> and congresswoman, you also serve on the january 6th committee. you mentioned that the jeffrey clark testimony was disappointing and that the committee is considering offering clark immunity for his testimony. is that something that
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considering for others as well? >> the fifth amendment says no person should be compelled to be a witness against himself. that is serious. if you plead the fifth, you can say that i could be prosecuted to ask to talk about it. and testimony given to the commit at this time could not be used by the department of justice if they find it out through some other means, fine, they could use it. and we're thinking about that. you know, there are a number of steps that have to be gone through to do that. and the question is will we get useful information. we're pondering that right now. obviously the fifth amendment is an important part of our constitution. but use immunity also is a viable legal option and we're thinking about it. >> congresswoman lofgren, i thank you very much for being with me. >> thank you.
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and a telemundo investigation reveal that the biden administration is regularly deporting people to venezuela despite the president previously denouncing that practice. in october 2020, biden criticized president trump saying that he has no regard for the suffering of venezuelan people. and joining me now is one of the reporters whoed on this story. thank you for being with me. >> thank you. >> how unusual are these deportations? >> well, as you know there are no diplomatic relations from venezuela and the u.s. in norming a circumstances we would see the u.s. requesting more. and the way i.c.e. is executing
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the deportations. it is through third countries.a the deportations. it is through third countries.m. and the way i.c.e. is executing the deportations. it is through third countries.a the deportations. it is through third countries. and we have some documents that some have provided and they pretend to be regular travellers going on vacation and the courts again no badge or no i.d. saying that they are part of i.c.e. and so just wearing casual clothes. so the deporees are told to act as tourists? >> yes, to pretend that they are tourists. and same thing for the agents. they don't have any identification. they wear casual clothes and they go with other travelers in the regular flights going to the
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dominican republic where travelers are going on vacation. >> and we have seen deportations of people and we saw it at del rio, texas, thousands of haitians arrived to the border, they are being sent back to haiti. there is an increase of deportations of cubans being sent to a 62 year plus dictatorship. is this on the increase? >> well, the answer from -- our job is to do the deportations of immigrants. and we're just complying with the requirement. and under any administration, trump or biden administration. and with this case venezuelas or other nationalities that you mention, you know, it is between the administration and in the venezuela case, department of
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state, they define it as a legitimate regime. and these immigrants that we're talking about have just returned to venezuela after seeking asylum in the u.s. so that is government and that' important because they face persecution once they arrive in caracas. >> and what happens with people are being sent back to port-au-prince. thank you. up next, the olympics are under way, shrouded, however by controversy. controversy. with nicorette. which can lead to something big. start(man 1 vo)with nicorette. i'm living with cll
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surrounding the games. how did that play out this morning in the opening ceremonies? >> reporter: jose, it's tough to say. you've got the global pandemic, rising geo political tensions and then you had this beautiful, pretty abbreviated opening ceremony that still was missing that key ingredient that makes it so memorable and that is the smiling, jubilant faces of athletes who gather to march there on the parade of nations because everyone was wearing masks. one of the only time you did see people's facing during the opening ceremonies was a very striking moment with two lines of smiling people passed down a chinese flag to chinese soldiers, which stepped the flag, it had a military feel, a little out of place for the
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olympics. and you've got the presence of vladimir putin there, the guest of the chinese president. you've got the absence of anyone from washington because of the diplomatic embargo that has been put over the olympics because of those human rights abuses that washington says that china has been committing over the uighur population. then you have china using a cross country skier, who is a uighur, to light the torch. politics is supposed to be something you don't see play into the olympics and yet seems to be front and center during these opening ceremonies. >> that wraps up the hour for me. i'm jose diaz-balart. be sure to follow the show. thank you so much for the privilege of your time. we pick up with more news after a quick break.
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