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praised as martyrs for participating in legitimate political discourse. the republican national committee has voted to formally censure liz cheney and adam kinzinger for being members of the house select committee investigating the january 6th attack. that is their offense. the censured document is wild on many levels. among many truly insane things it accuses them of being destructive to the republican party for wanting to find the truth of what happened january 6th. the republican conference must not be sabotaged by cheney and kinzinger. how else could the truth be destructive and seeking it be considered it sabotage? the rnc now admits it's demanding republicans put party over country and pledge fidelity to donald trump, adding that cheney and kinzinger support
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democratic efforts to destroy president trump more than they support winning back republican support in 2022, end quote. at this surreal headline in today's paper, the party of lincoln and reagan now formally and publicly holds the position that the deadly mob of people trying to overthrow the u.s. government consisted of, quote, ordinary citizens engaged in legitimate political discourse. in case you missed that. the official position of the rnc now is that legitimate political discourse is what happened on january 6th. a day in which resulted in the deaths of at least five police officers and multiple insurrectionists including one who was shot and died while attempting to forcibly breach a barricaded area of the capitol building. according to the rnc, legitimate political discourse now includes publicly chanting a desire to hang the former vice president mike pence. it also includes bringing a
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pre-constructed gallows along. i've never seen a gallows in my life, not in america. the rnc believes that legitimate political discourse results in the vice president ushered away as you see here under guard for fear of his life. yesterday just a couple of hours after that censure vote and the release of the anti-democratic government in a speech before the federalist society the former vice president mike pence indirectly weighed in on the situation while offering his most public and straightforward repudiation of the insurrectionist former president acknowledging that the big lie is a threat to american democracy. >> 6 was a dark day in the history of the united states capitol. lives were lost and many were injured. i heard this week that president trump said i had the right to overturn the election. president trump is wrong. i had no right to overturn the election. the presidency belongs to the
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american people and the american people alone and frankly, there is no idea more un-american than the notion that any one person could choose the american president. the truth is there's more at stake than our party or political fortunes. men and women, if we lose faith in the constitution we won't just lose elections. we'll lose our country. >> quite something from the former vice president. we will lose our country. in addition to those remarks the national archives says that pence's records will be turned over to the house select committee on march 3rd. we also know that pence's former chief of staff, mark short someone who has first-hand knowledge of the former president's efforts to pressure pence to overturn the election recently appeared under subpoena. the select committee interviewed the former secretary of the army ryan mccarthy, the official in charge of making decisions about deploying national guard troops. you'll remember they came quite
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late. joining me now is democratic representative stacy plaskett of the united states virgin islands. she served as an impeachment manager in the second impeachment trial of donald trump. representative plaskett, good to see you this morning. thank you for being with us. the vice president's comments, you are the person that americans remember as laying out exactly what happened in the -- in the congress on january 6th. we know that something happened to the vice president. we know they were chanting "hang mike pence." we know there was a gallots and he was ushered out to safety and the white house seemed to have zero interest in his safety. they didn't call him. he called them, but now you are hearing from the vice president the strongest words yet that you're wrong. i wasn't authorized to do what i can do and where the republican party is into dangerous anti-democratic territory. >> it's good to be with you, and you know, this is just a culmination of something that's been happening for a number of years in the republican party.
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let's recall that during president obama's administration mitch mcconnell said that he would be an obstructionist. that he would not work with democrats, that he was going to be the grim reaper in which no legislation would pass. fast forward into when the republicans had a unified government and controlled the house, the senate and the white house. what did they do? they only took care of themselves with a tax legislation, and now we see that they were unwilling to lose the grips of power at the demise of our democracy. they're only concerned with power. they're only concerned with controlling our government and if they cannot have it they will destroy it and that's what we've seen that president trump has done through so much information that's come out in january 6th that is validating the impeachment of that president and we'll show -- history will show that individuals who did
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not vote to convict him were absolutely wrong. >> i'm curious about whether this rnc censure of your colleagues, liz cheney and adam kinzinger may be a bridge too far. i constantly hear from republicans that there is no real civil war going and it's trump's party and yet there were a number of tweets as a result of this from republicans. mitch romney tweeted, shame for those who seek truth in the sake of vitriol. honor attaches to liz cheney and adam kinzinger even when it comes at great personal cost. the rnc is censuring liz cheney and adam kinzinger because -- it's a sad day for my party and the country when you're punished just for expressing your beliefs and standing on principle and refusing to tell blatant lies. tell me about this because on
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january 6th in 2021 all sorts of them said this is terrible and donald j. trump himself and people who did this should pay the price. everybody folded. everybody flipped. does this flip them back a little bit? >> unfortunately, the individuals that you have cited as putting out tweets are cassidy as well as romney were the brave republicans who were willing to vote to convict the president in the impeachment, and we know that governor hogan has in the past come out against donald trump. so we don't see those individuals who have been lockstep behind the president after january 6th now turning and actually getting a spine. that has not happened, and i don't see it happening within the republican party. it's a sad day when we have the opposing party that is not only not playing by the rules, but actually going after our democracy. i'm not convinced that the
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republican party has a way back anymore. it doesn't seem that that's possible. >> it is odd because i'm not sure a ton of my viewers think that mike pence was the guy who was going to save democracy or the republican party. you did say in your presentation during the impeachment in february of 2021, you said the mob was looking for vice president pence because of his patriotism because the vice president refused to do what the president demanded and overturned the election results. they were talking about assassinating the vice president of the united states. we are more than a year later. this is literally a year after you said this. i suppose better late than never, but do you think mike pence saying what he said yesterday is of any consequence? will it have any impact on anybody? >> well, you know, i'm a pessimist, ali, and i fear that mike pence is really just trying to save himself in his own presidential bid. we know that he's been engaged in meetings in south carolina
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where there is a huge republican primary. we don't have him willing to come and testify before the january 6th commission and those individuals from his inner circle while they did testify refused to say specifically their conversations with president trump so let's not hail him as the great hero at this point. we are grateful that he did not succumb to pressure from donald trump to follow suit and try to overthrow the government on january 6th, but is he going to be the patriot that we see adam kinzinger or liz cheney and actually outright repudiating the president and what he said? that's yet to be seen. >> representative stacy plaskett, democratic representative for the u.s. virgin islands. thank you for being with us. we always appreciate your time on a weekend morning. joining me is yamiche alcindor
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and is also an msnbc contributor and will soon join us as nbc's washington correspondent, my friend, it is always a pleasure to work with you, however it comes to be. i'm dying for your take on everything that we've heard in the last week. there have been very detailed reports published about the stuff that was going on sort of from about mid-november of 2020 until january 6th and with each passing day, with each layer of the onion that peels back it seems closer and closer to donald trump knowing what was going on and perhaps having an orchestrating role in it. >> well, this last week has been extraordinary because we kind of thought we knew how bad things were were. we thought we knew because former president trump was tweeting about everturning the election something no american president has ever done which is declare victory on election night even though he had not won the election and here we go with memos that show that there were people, it was in the
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government, not just president trump, but aides, lawyers and other people around him that were thinking of using the powers of the nsa to try to somehow overturn the election and there was this draft executive order and they were talking about taking over the voting machines. i think this is why lawmakers were so insistent including representative cheney and adam kinzinger that were extraordinarily rebuked by their own party and they were so insistent saying we need an investigation and we need documents and we need far beyond tweets and rhetoric and far beyond rallies to hold the atmosphere that was working against american democracy and the will of the people. >> this is interesting because you must have had similar discussions i had post the impeachment where a lot of people said we have the impeachment and he was impeached and everything that needed to be out there is out there. why don't we move on. democrats are still trying to live in the past because in fact, what we have found from the january 6th investigation so
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far and we still have not had public hearings other than the first day and we still have not a report from them is much, much, much more detailed than what we've had before. we now know that the ceo of overstock was involved in these meetings with michael flynn. the cyber ninja guy was involved in plotting all this nonsense that led to him getting a big contract and that sydney powell and rudy giuliani. it's unbelievable the number of people who were pitching a different idea and hour with donald trump? will things change when it becomes more public when it's press report after press report and it's after january 6th in your committee. isn't that the question of our generation of this moment? will things actually change. based on my conversations with republicans especially the ones that watch mike pence who at once was downplaying the january 6th insurrection saying they were talking about it too much in the press and finally finds a moment when he can admit reality
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that donald trump is wrong and no one has the power to overturn the election? based on my conversation with those sort of republicans and those sort of conservatives and until something drastic happens and an insurrection is not draftic and just pause to remember that, they were saying that president trump will continue to have the power. i do hear some people saying that there are some issues with vaccines which is not specifically related to january 6th, but this idea that former president trump is having a break with his party and his followers because he's saying that he will take the vaccine and people were angry with him about that issue, but when it comes to january 6th and what we'll learn about the insurrection it doesn't team like the party including the rnc will be moved by that. i have to tell you when i saw mike pence yesterday say that my head started spinning for two reasons, first he was actually saying that and then my head started spinning because my head was spinning on something that was right. >> we grow up in times when two
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impeachments and an intent to incite an insurrection is career ending, but it's 2022. yamiche alcindor is moderator of news this week on pbs and a soon-to-be resident on msnbc news. we welcome you with open arms. we'll talk to a lawmaker on the literal front lines of trying to change that and the release of body camera footage showing the last moments of a young black man's life has reignited criticism over so-called no-knock warrants. new reporting that some portions of the russian military along the ukraine border have reached full combat strength and the latest on the crisis overseas is next. e crisis overseas is next
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the u.s. and its nato allies continue to try to de-escalate tensions along ukraine's border. on wednesday the white house said that it had adjusted its language and was no longer describing the possibility of a russian military offensive as, quote, imminent. by friday "the new york times" reports that russian troops were entering final stages of redness for the possible invasion of ukraine. according to the times, quote, though the kremlin's intensions are unclear, ukrainian officials are now newly worried about the crimian peninsula where russia has deployed 10,000 additional troops. back in december we first reported that putin had shipped about 90,000 troops to ukraine's eastern border. just over two months later there are now more than 130,000 troops stationed along ukraine's east, north and south all of which border either russia or belarus. on thursday the u.s. accused russia of hatching an elaborate plot to fake an attack by russian troops by ukrainian
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forces to justify a russianenvation to ukraine. they planned to use a fake propaganda video with actors dressed like ukrainian militia and russian soldiers purpose they were calling them nonsense and speculation. joining me is a pulitzer prize-winning pentagon correspondent, and helena, we have been saying that rausch is on the brink of invasion for a couple of weeks now. can russia have these 130,000 troops on the iranian border for weeks and months and do nothing and keep the world on edge like it's doing now? >> that's a great question. hi, thanks for having me, ali. that's a great question and it's something that the short answer would be sure they're good, but the long answer is that gets really expensive. you're looking at russian troops who they've been there for,
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what? it's been 30 days now and more and more are coming every day, but it's very cold. they're not in hardship conditions. they're not in, you know, they're not, like dug into trenches and stuff like this at this point. they're still in camps, so it's not as bad as it could be, but you do have to start thinking about morale. at this point, i think the intel and the analysts and american officials assume that vladimir putin can keep them there for a while longer. the conventional wisdom says that the -- while russia can go over the border at any time that they want, the optimal conditions would begin around february 15th when the ground and ukraine is completely frozen. it's freezing now, but it's not at the frozen point and then you have from february 15th to the end of march where you would have frozen, and that's the best
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sort of -- those are the best conditions for big tanks going over because the rivers are frozen and ukraine has a lot of rivers for big tanks to go over. you don't have to worry that the ukrainian military might blow up bridges and that sort of thing and you optimal maneuverability and there's also the beijing olympics issue because on a country that vladimir putin really needs is alienating china at a time when he's almost assuredly heading into sanctions, it's not the best idea. >> helene, there's some disagreement about what to do about this. in a recent piece you wrote with "the new york times," you write the allies are divided on what kind of response would be triggered by a short of war action. what does that tell us about the ways the allies are divided? what do they need to do to find common ground if there isn't actually a war, but russia continues to increase its pressure on ukraine?
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>> that's where it gets really tricky for nato because if russia just -- nato is, what? how many countries? 32 or something? i'll say it and of course, probably get it wrong, but you're looking at all of these different democracies that are coming into this with their own views and their own fears. so a lot of these countries, one of them being in particular germany are more skittish about really alienating russia, and affect their economy and you have the north stream pipeline and the thing like a coalition of nato is you have to go down to the last common denominator. if vladimir putin called it a little bit and a minor incursion and going in the border and i think at that point he has a better chance of fracturing nato because while the united states and maybe the uk and other
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countries might say then we still go and this is a huge violation of sovereignty and any crossing of the border is a definite, big violation of ukrainian sovereignty and we should go to maximum sanctions. you may have a few other countries, perhaps germany saying not so fast. this is such a big deal that we will have this huge global power standoff. if mr. putin goes for the whole hog, he and the toppling of the ukrainian government and a conquer and occupation of the entire country, that actually has a better chance of uniting nato in a strong response, but it would also be catastrophically -- you would see a catastrophic humanitarian situation with 1 million to 2
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million, with 1 million to 2 million refugees is one of the estimates i've heard. you've heard huge numbers of casualties on both sides, so it's almost as if the worst-case scenario might bring the best outcome for unity, and it won't bring it for civilian reasons. >> helene, we always appreciate your insight and analysis. helene cooper is a pulitzer prize-winning correspondent for "the new york times." you know their name, and you know what they fought for, but the battle about the right to vote is not something that just exists in the pages of a u.s. history book. it is happening today. s happeni. sorry, one sec. doug blows several different whistles. doug blows several different whistles.
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it's common this time of year to see celebrations and remembrances of the civil rights icons whose sacrifices were instrumental in securing voting rights for african-americans for the passage of the landmark voting rights act in 1965. we hear a lot about folks like dr. martin luther king, john lewis, fanny lou haimer and other civil rights leaders and they were fighting an openly unjust system that shut out generations of black voters and that they literally had to put their bodies on the line, getting arrested in many cases, in order to triumph over that injustice. fast forward nearly 60 years and the fight's not over. donald trump's big lie has millions convinced that our elections are rigged and state level republican lawmakers across the country are responding by trying to make voting harder in large part for voters of color with over 30 bills actively targeting and restricting voting rights. meanwhile, the freedom to vote act and the john lewis voting
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rights advancement act are still being blocked in the senate. all of this puts access to the ballot at risk for many americans particularly minorities and those for marginalized communities and lo and behold some of those protesting for equal rights of all americans are being taken away in handcuffs in 2022 just like my next guest who you're looking at there was recently. joining us now is democratic congressman jamal bowman from new york. he's the vice chair of the house education and labor committee and a former middle school principal. representative bowman, good to see you this morning. >> good to see you, as well. i missed you, brother. thanks for having me. >> i missed you, too. you and i always talk about other political stuff and we don't talk about what we need to talk about. i am surprised about the people arrested fighting for voting rights and it feels like news reporting from the 1960s. what's happening today? what are things getting you arrested and how are they moving
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the needle? >> as we know, donald trump happened. as we know, qanon happened, and as we know a big lie and the insurrectionists happened and unfortunately, we are still a country who has not grappled with our history in an open and honest way. that's one of the reasons why we are still out there protesting. we are still out there getting arrested. people are going on hunger strike for several weeks and it's just another reminder that democracy is a contact sport. it's something that we need to be engaged in and part of each and every day and in terms of that history and it's why they introduced the african-american history act because we have to accurately teach american history and accurately teach african-american history to tell the truth and move forward as the nation that we're supposed to be. >> i got a screen up there in the african-american act, investing $10 million over five
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years for the national museum of african-american culture and supporting the museum' efforts to include resources and curriculum. you are an educator and my only hope today in this messed up political system that we have is the kids might save us one day and yet there is a very determined effort to stop that from happening. this history that we don't fully understand yet and i hope we learn more of, folks are trying to stop that. >> the kids have to save us. i repeat, the kids have to save us. we must listen to them because they're telling us what we need to know. the reason why we have mass incarceration and a school to prison pipeline, the reason why we have a rise in mental health concerns and issues amongst our kids. the reason why black and latino kids are suspended and expelled at a higher rate beginning in pre-kindergarten is because we are not connecting with them with our school curriculum by
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teaching them their history and their culture, and when you're a black person or latino, asian or what have you and you don't learn about yourself you have no sense of identity and you feel lost within the school system and within your country and you end up making poor decisions. i connect this directly to gun violence. if we have a stronger curriculum and the sense of identity and community, we are less likely to commit harm against that community and it's the same thing as a country. we need to be honest about our identity as a country so we can heal as a country. >> when you say people need to get involved and getting arrest side a choice that you made and a choice that your numbers congress made. it's a hard choice. for some people it would ruin their lives and careers and what are the other basic ways that people can participate. you're in education and local elections get virtually no turnout in this country which
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means you can win a local election with 5% of the vote or 10% of the vote and yet people don't go out to vote and they don't go to the school board meetings and is that a good starting place for my viewers? >> so, absolutely. voting in any and everything is really important, but showing up to school board meetings, just to listen and learn and raise your voice in connection with the topics that are being discussed, that's really important, too. so school board meetings, community board meetings, pta meetings, state, county and city meetings, just be in the building, if you can or on zoom if you have to be on zoom. be involved in a campaign, do postcard writing and knock on a couple of doors and you'll see how empowered you feel even by knocking on two or three doors and that's what's needed now because if people sit on the sidelines, the insurrectionists
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are going to win this big lie and this battle and take our democracy and replace it with white nationalism and fascism and i can't make that happen. you are here on the day that we are launching the velshi book club. what is your favorite book that's challenged or banned right now? "the miseducation of the negro by carter woodson. i don't know if it's banned and also happy birthday to trayvon martin. it's ten years since the horrible tragedy took place. happy birthday, trayvon martin. congressman, good to have you on the show and it's good to have time to explore things beyond what happened in congress this week. please join us when you can. congressman jamaal bowman of new york. 22-year-old black man was shot dead by police serving a no-knock warrant. we'll tell you amir locke's story when we come back. locke's
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this week we saw yet another black man die at the hands of minneapolis police. it was captured on body cam video. on wednesday morning before 7:00 a.m. 22-year-old amir locke was sleeping on a sofa at his friend's apartment when a s.w.a.t. team burst into his home -- into the home, it was not his home. police say locke pointed a loaded gun in the direction of officers at which point they
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shot him multiple times. however, the footage released on thursday puts that account into question. it's fairly disturbing so we'll only use still images of it. it shows a team of officers using a key to unlock the front door and they announce themselves only as they enter, feet away from where locke is laying wrapped in a blanket they yell police! search warrant. get on the ground and one officer kicks the back of the couch and making the gun that emerged from the blanket and the video ends. the entire encounter took less than ten seconds. the police tried to immediately render aid, but locke died later at a nearby hospital. he suffered two wounds to the chest and one to the right wrist. the minneapolis p.d. set out that morning to execute a morning for the neighboring st. paul police homicide unit. officials confirmed that locke was never named in the warrant, they were not being looking for
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him. according to the attorney, locke had a license to carry the firearm and had no criminal record. it's been met with a outcry. the death of breonna taylor in 2020 also while she was sleeping. the mayor of minneapolis imposed a moratorium on no-knock warrant, in order to execute a no-knock warrant during a moratorium there must be an imminent threat of harm and the warrant must be approved directly by the chief of police. locke's death will be reviewed by the state's top cop. minnesota attorney general keith ellison says he'll partner with the attorney's office to get to the bottom of this. he led the derek chauvin and kim potter both who were charged respectively. joining me is tiffany cross,
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host of "the cross connection" on msnbc. >> this case is so demoralizing to see this over and over. keith ellison used to be a congressman, as well so he's very familiar with federal law, and we'll talk about the amir locke murder on "the cross connection" and i'll be joined by the president of the minnesota association of black lawyers, frank abuaono. ask what is going on with the minneapolis police. i have not heard a lot of outrage from the nra on this considering that according to his family and attorneys he was licensed to carry that firearm. plus, ali, i don't know if you noticed this, but there are a lot of ed cares leaving the classroom. i'll talk to a virginia school teacher and president becky pringle about why so many educators are leaving the classroom at record rates. you've seen a lot of this crazy footage as i have with parents outraged at school boards and
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white parents enraged over crts and we have to mix it up with a lot of culture and comedy and to do that we'll have actress cheryl lee ralph whose latest role on screen is an educator and she'll join me to talk about "abbott elementary." yet again, i was in hair and makeup taking forever because i said wait a second, ali has yamiche on and ali is talking about this other thing i didn't know and i was late for my tease. thank you, my friend. your show is always amazing. >> there's not much advice, but i could if you had time some time and i can explain to you how i manage to spend less time in hair these days than i used to. good to see you, my friend. >> you, too, ali. thanks for being with us. we'll see you at the top of the hour. tiffany cross, stay tuned for
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everything and let's try to apply it on to our economy, if wages are low and unemployment is going up that american workers will all feel that positive impact equally, but that's not the case especially if you're a person of color. i want to show you a chart that shows unemployment rates for black, latino and white men and women over the past year and let's zoom in at the unemployment rates for black and white men. the solid red line and the solid green line. this past month the unemployment rate for white men was 8.2%. for black men 7.1%, but when we're really looking at is the bigger picture. the entire line. black workers have remained at an unemployment rate at twice as high for white workers and the unemployment rate is far lower than black workers have ever experienced. the chart, let me show you another chart. the labor force participation rate for hispanic, asian and black and white workers. let's zero in on the white workers, which is the green line
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over here. once again, black labor force participation did rise 62% now in january, which is the same as white workers, but the disparity between the two lines over the past year is clear. white workers consistently and continually outpaced their i'm not saying this new data is not optimistic or not good news but when you're trying to close a gap, something else needs to happen. we're seeing a bit of growth in a community that's been disproportionately impacted time and time again. the pandemic is the latest example. one example i want to show you and perhaps it's the most crucial and telling. it's about wealth. the unequal distribution which is at historic and frightening levels. half of americans hold just 2% of all the nation's wealth and communities of color, hispanics in gold and blacks in red, hold just a fraction of that. this chart shows how stark
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joining me now to continue our conversation about the economic racial divide is bill rogers. least the vice president of the st. louis fed. he's the director of its institute for economic equity. he's a former chief economist for the u.s. labor department and an old friend of mine. professor rogers, it's good to see you again. thank you for being with us. we showed the data but nobody surprised by that. black unemployment is higher. black wealth is lower. we're doing well as an economy. wealth is increasing. unemployment is decreasing but the gap is persistent between
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black americans and the rest of the american population. how does that end? >> well, how much time do we have? it's great to see you. i do have to preface my remarks by saying these are my own personal views. they don't represent the policy of the views of the bank in st. louis or this federal reserve system. what comes to mind when what you showed there is several words, scaffolding, foundation, structure. particularly structural. what you're honing in on and wanting us to focus on is the structural challenges that blacks face and they have historically faced. there's this amazing essay that dr. king wrote back in 1966 for the nation magazine. he talks about how it's harder to create jobs than it is to
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create voter rolls. now some would question that statement now because of what's been happening with people being challenged about voting but his central point was that if you look at blacks then and the statistics you compare to now, very, very similar. the unemployment rates are lower. also if you look at a living wage, smaller share of black families have access to a living wage. how do we do this? in our institute, ray and his colleague they've published a really outstanding volume on wealth and approaches to improving wealth and addressing this gap. some of these policies are approaches or really practices too focus on right from cradle, right from birth providing opportunity for growing wealth. 529s which exist. those are examples and i urge
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people to read that. from the standpoint of the labor market, showed growth, showed good growth coming out at the end but we have to continue to do better job on making sure that workplaces are fair and also safe. >> let me ask you about when you look at the various places. you look at the various numbers we get. the unemployment rate itself. the work force participation rate. the wage rates, the wealth disparities. are they all connected? what's the one you hone in on on wanting to fix? you can have lower levels of black unemployment but if black people are not earning the same amount of money, you don't close the wealth gap. >> yeah. unfortunately, there's no silver bullet as i wrote a couple of years ago. there's no silver bullet. you have to have this comprehensive, 360 degree approach whether it's from cradle to grave and talk about how do you improve economic security at these various
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junctures or the work of jon powell where the focus is about how do we improve belonging. we want to improve the ability of families to have access to pay their budget times. that's what they call a.l.i.c.e. most of them we know alice, your viewers know alice. these are people who don't have enough income to make the resources go. >> it's always god to talk to you. this isn't enough time to solve this problem. let's have this conversation lot and lots and you and i have done over the years. that does it for me. thank you for watching. catch me here tomorrow morning from 8:00 to 10:00. i'm be joined by alexander
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