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entire country and seize kyiv in a matter of days. later today president biden will meet at the white house with the new german chancellor who faces criticism for not be more outspoken in the aggression against ukraine. and emmanuel macron is meeting with vladimir putin to deter him from invading his neighbor. the white house says both leaders discussed deterrence efforts. kelly o'donnell asked the president yesterday what he thinks putin is looking for in order to de-escalate tensions. >> reporter: do you think there's any particular thing that vladimir putin is looking for, sir, in order to make this decision? >> i think things he cannot get. >> things he cannot get. well, all of this comes as russia continues to build up troops along its ukraine border. according to a u.s. intelligence
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assessment, russia has already assembled 70% of the forces it will need to launch a full-scale invasion with estimates that as many as 50,000 civilians could be killed or wounded in a matter of weeks if putin decides to launch a full-scale invasion. national security adviser jake sullivan offered this grim assessment on yesterday's" meet the press" with chuck. >> if there were a window where something happened, a military escalation, an invasion of ukraine could happen at any time. we believe the russians have put in place the capabilities to mount a significant military operation into ukraine and we have been working hard to prepare a response. >> secretary of state tony blinken just met with eu officials about the situation and we expect to hear from the pentagon as well in about two hours from now about its preparation for a potential military conflict as troops from the u.s. begin to arrive in
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europe in an effort to provide additional security for our nato allies. courtney kube is joins us. i want to talk to you. we heard from jake sullivan on "meet the press" a russian invasion of ukraine could happen at any time. i know you've been working your sources throughout the weekend. what is the latest u.s. assessment of the russian military assessment around ukraine now? >> they have a very significant military force surrounding ukraine on three sides right now. that includes, according to these officials, 83 battalion tactical groups. that's not exactly like a u.s. military term but to give you a sense, the btgs that they have and all of the additional capabilities, logistics and support is more than 100,000 russian forces, a raid around there. now that, if in fact russia were
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to go forward with a full-scale invasion of ukraine, i'm talking about a military effort to take over -- ultimately take over the entire country, the officials believe it would take somewhere in the neighborhood of about 120 of these battalion tactical groups. there are still about 14 more headed in so they're well on their way at this pace to have the full complement of all russian military forces, arrayed around ukraine by the middle of the month with a couple of days on either side as a window. beyond that, though, we did hear from these officials about the u.s. military intelligence assessment for what it could look like if ukraine were to go forward with this full-scale invasion as far as casualties and some very grim numbers, including the idea, civilian casualties could be in the neighborhood of 25 to 50,000
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killed and wounded if they go forward with that. at this point officials do not believe vladimir putin as made the final decision to make a full-scale invasion. the officials i'm speaking with there is some sort of military action that is coming. they are looking towards a little past the middle of this month for this action to start. >> courtney, the picture that you paint is pretty dire and it really underscores the urgency here and the backdrop that president biden is dealing with as he prepares to sit down and meet with the new german chancellor today. this is an urgent situation. germany has not publicly expressed support for other actions. they seem to be the key hold out in terms of showing unity with
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what nato needs to do. what does the president need to do in order to have some type of progress? >> publicly, kristen, the white house is putting on a display of unity with germany. there are statements pressuring russia not to invade. privately u.s. officials will tell you they want germany to lay its cards out on the table in terms of exactly what sanctions it would be willing to impose on russia if it does invade ukraine. we heard from the german chancellor ahead of his meeting today, he spoke to the "washington post" and he dismissed this narrative that germany has been too soft as rumors. he's pointing to the fact that his country is one of the largest donors to ukraine. the fact of the matter is what the ukrainians need is not
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economic assistance. what they need and are asking for is not only weaponry but a really strong, united show of unity among the nato allies about exactly what they would do and not let president putin use some of these economic issues within europe, particularly the energy issue, as a wedge to drive divisions between the u.s. and its nato allies that make it more easy for russia to justify its own incursion into ukraine if putin goes down that choice. for example on the in order stream 2 pipeline, jake sullivan, the national security adviser, made very clear as far as the u.s. is concerned, if a single russian troop enters ukraine, the pipeline will not be put into operation. the german chancellor schultz has not gone nearly that far. he says all options are on the
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table, we will do everything in coordination with our allies but he is not willing to say that that pipeline will not go forward if the russians invade. the germans have been reluctant to let their airspace be used and german origin defensive weaponry be transported from estonia to ukraine. i think that nordstrom, too, obviously going to be a key focus today and you mapped out so well what the ukrainians want to hear and want from germany that they have not received yet, not only a firm verbal affirmation that they will stand with its nato allies but they also want military equipment they haven't got. let me talk about the critical meeting that's happening in moscow where you are. first, let me just ask you, what will you and those in the region
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be watching for today as president biden prepares to meet with the german chancellor? >> i think the big thing here is unity, right? the russians are definitely continuing their game where they're looking for cracks in the cohesion. this is something the ukrainians are probably also looking at and those eastern european allies as well. we've been seeing calls they might want to see more western support, more western equipment in eastern europe, perhaps permanent deployment. so everyone is just now kind of watching to see how this meeting goes between president putin. there's obviously been a big buildup to it, the kremlin was saying it's quite important and macron seemed to place a lot of importance on it as well but the name of the game right now is unity. >> and you are there in moscow where macron has been meeting with president putin. he of course was just on the phone with president biden last
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night. what can you tell us about his agenda going into this high-stakes meeting, particularly when you have president put essentially saying don't expect too much to come from one meeting. yes, diplomacy is still on the table but let's be realistic here. >> i think macron's goal is to keep the dialogue going. he's always been a big proponent of looking at a new european security architecture, which is what putin has been talking about but they don't seem to be talking about the exact same thing here. we heard reassurance from the french they're not looking for a unilateral agreement with russia. that's something that russia is going to be looking for in a meeting like this. it's just the sense that as long as we're talking we're not fighting, right? that seems to be his main objective here. the kremlin himself not giving away too much. we heard from the kremlin spokesman this morning saying this is a very important meeting but that we shouldn't really get
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our expectations too high. the situation, as he said, is too complicated right now for one meeting to make the difference and there continue to be irreconcilable differences between the russian position and how we understand the mainstream western position at this time. we're just going to have to wait for the press conference that should be coming sometime this evening. they've been talking for almost three hours now and they've had several phone calls over the past few days but we'll have a much better idea of what macron might have accomplished or at least being attempting once we get to this press briefing later this evening. >> it's quite an extensive bilat bilateral conferring. what can you tell us about this divide in terms of what we're hearing from the u.s. and ukraine? >> yeah, i mean, that's been one of the more remarkable aspects of this whole drama leading up
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till now. after that shocking assessment, really horrifying assessment that we heard about over the weekend, just last night we heard from the ukrainian defense minister. he came out with a statement. i'm going to read you a little bit of it. he said "it is the duty of the military to calculate all possible scenarios, even the worse and do everything possible to neutralize threats, this is happening now and the probability of a significant escalation as of today continues to be assessed as low." and he even faulted the foreign media for basically scaring everyone, pumping up this notion there is going to be an invasion and it is going to be catastrophic with so many civil civilian casualties. this guess from kyiv to the defense minister all the way down to your average joe in the street. most people don't even believe there's going to be an invasion or if there is an invasion it will be that bad. one of the main reasons, and we
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have to remember this, ukrainians have been at war for the past eight years. russia already controls much. eastern part of the country, the region of bombas from crimea to the south. so to them this threat isn't imminent. it's not something about to happen, it's something that's been happening. that's why we don't see that kind of panic that we're hearing about from the white house and other european capitals. here in ukraine it really doesn't feel that palpably tense. >> courtney, when you think about how imminent an invasion may or may not be, as you painted at the tonight, the u.s. is bracing itself and they are open to sending more troops if
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necessary. do you get the sense we could see more troops move into eastern europe in the coming days or is that not something that's imminent right now? >> reporter: yes, i think we will see more troops but i think the next group we see will be moving from other parts of europe, so moving around within the european command theater as opposed to coming over from the united states. now, there still is the possibility in addition to the troops we heard about last week, the 3,000 that came from -- 2,000 from fort bragg in the united states and 1,000 moved from there within europe. there is still that 8,500 on this heightened state of alert but they will own be sent over at this point if the nato response force is activated. the officials who i've been speaking with, every single one continues to tell me that the response force, there's no decision to activate it at this point and most likely it would not be activated unless vladimir putin invades and there is a call for more assistance and shoring up of defenses by those nato allies. >> well, it is a critical moment
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for the biden administration, for europe and for the world. i thank you so much for starting off our conversation this hour. josh, matt and courtney, i appreciate all of your great reporting and insights. we're keeping a close eye on the white house this hour as president biden is set to meet with the new german chancellor as the state department tries to keep a diplomatic explosion on the table. a former ambassador to ukraine joins me next. you're watching "meet the press daily." "meet the press daily. can you imagine what this place pulls in on parking alone? alright, no more talking about parking lots. a lot of these are compact spots. it's not pretty. progressive can't protect you from becoming your parents, but we can protect your home and auto when you bundle with us. we still planning to head out around the third quarter? let's not talk about leaving before we're actually at the game. looking to get back in your type 2 diabetes zone?
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we've listened to russia's concerns and shared concerns of our own about the steps that they're taking to undermine security. the united states, the european, our nato allies, our oic partners throughout europe have put forward ideas how we and russia can find common agreement that will strengthen collective security for everyone. we're willing to continue a
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substantive conversation with russia on mutual concerns. the diplomatic path is clear. at the same time, we and are allies are resolved there will be real and profound consequences should russia continue -- >> that was secretary of state tony blinken moments ago. joining me is ambassador to ukraine bill taylor. thank you so much for joining me. let me just put that question to you before we talk about what we're watching today. do you realistically think there is still a path to diplomacy? because we still see these leaders talking and yet we see the russian troops continue to amass along the ukrainian border. >> i do think there's still a chance for diplomacy and negotiations. it is of course up to president putin. secretary blinken just said he has a choice. he can negotiate or invade. if he invades, the cost will be
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very high in all kinds of ways but there is a negotiated outcome, solution, that he could take. and the idea is to defer him -- deter him from making a bad decision and encourage him to make the right decision to negotiate. our understanding is he has not made up his mind yet and that suggests there's still the opportunity for the west, broadly speaking this alliance that you've been talking about, can still convince president putin that it's a bad idea to invade, that the cost will be very high. not just in deaths in ukraine, which will be very high, tens of thousands we've heard, also thousands of russian soldiers will die. also president putin will go down in history as a failed dictator who killed many people. there a court in the hague that
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deals with these kind of issues and there's sanctions. so these are serious issues, serious costs that president putin has to weigh when he decides, invade or negotiate. >> and let's talk about that alliance because of course president biden is going to be meeting with the new german chancellor today at the white house. this is a critical meeting. it comes at a critical moment and, of course, as we've been saying, germany has at least been at least publicly a holdout when it comes to the nato alliance in terms of expressing support for more sanctions, as well as a range for other potential actions. so what do you think would constitute real progress for president biden? what does he need to accomplish today in that meeting, ambassador taylor? >> i think it will be very important for the two leaders to come out and express agreement and solidarity and commitment and resolve that they're not going to back down in the face
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of this intimidation that putin is trying to provide. putin is trying to intimidate the western leaders, including president biden and the chancellor as well as president zelensky. and president biden and the chancellor should come out and confirm that they are standing tough, standing firm. they will impose sanctions, the germans can impose sanctions and we can impose sanctions. it has to be to the same goal. >> one thing we're hearing from the administration is that if russia does move into ukraine, even if it's one soldier, that will be viewed as an invasion and they will cut off the nord stream 2 pipeline. this is what the national security adviser had to say over the weekend.
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>> i'll let the german chancellor speak for himself but the biden administration has been absolutely simply clear on this. if russia invades ukraine, one way or another, nordstrom 2 will not move forward. >> do you anticipate we will hear from the chancellor a firm public backing of that strategy? >> i think you'll hear from the german chancellor, as he said, all options are on the table. that means nordstream 2 is on the team. it's very clear from what jake sullivan said and the chancellor said earlier that the germans and americans agree if there's an invasion of whatever size, if it's one soldier or a massive attack, that that pipeline will not go into effect. >> i want to ask you about some
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of what we have seen, frankly, unfold during the olympics, president putin meeting with president xi jinping. let me read you part of a joint statement that came out of that meeting. i want to get your reaction. it says "the sides oppose further enlargement of nato. they reaffirm the new inter-state relations between russia and china are superior to political and military alliances of the cold war era. there are no for biden areas of cooperation. we don't know specifically what was conveyed between these leader or whether xi jinping said to president putin don't invade or at least don't do it during the olympics. what do you make or how problem atic that that happened right now? >> that's not problematic that
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that happened. what is interesting is they didn't mention ukraine. as you say, the chinese have been ambiguous about ukraine. they've not been ambiguous about nato or support for russia, but they haven't been willing to condemn or indication that they've got some problems with the russian attitude. the russians have said they're going to invade if they don't get what they want and the chinese have not backed that up, have not said they are going to support russia on an invasion of ukraine because the chinese have a lot of investments in ukraine. the chinese have a lot of investments in ukraine and we remember there's some history here. when russia invaded ukraine the first time in 2014, when they invaded crimea and dombas, they met and tried to move a
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resolution condemning that invasion and of course the russians opposed it. the chinese abstained at that time. who knows if they will abstain this time. but what we do now is the chinese are not eager to see the russians invade their neighbor. >> all right. ambassador bill taylor, thank you so much for joining us and helping us break down this really complicated moment. i really appreciate it. >> thank you. good to be here. >> we want to turn to minneapolis where hundreds of protesters took to the streets after the weekend after a 22-year-old black man was shot and killed when police served a no-knock warrant on an apartment. police were investigating a recent homicide at the time of the predawn operation on wednesday and they say locke was not the target of the investigation nor a resident of the apartment. his family says he was staying there with his cousin and was asleep on the couch when police arrived. body cam video shows locke was armed with a handgun under a
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blanket on the couch. the video shows an officer fired at locke at least three times. his family said he was licensed to carry the gun. an investigation is ongoing. this weekend peaceful protests included a caravan of cars honking their horns. minneapolis mayor jacob frye announced on friday a moratorium on no-knock warrants while also saying that amir locke's life was cut short. coming up, the growing rifts within the republican party as former vice president mike pence rebucs former president trump and the republican national committee rebukes two of its own members. you're watching "meet the press daily."
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cheney and kinzinger are participating in a democratic-led prosecution of ordinary citizens engaged in legitimate political discourse. rnc chairwoman rona mcdaniel clarified saying their committee work is persecuting ordinaricy sense. it comes as mike pence delivered his strongest rebuke yesterday that he had the authority to overturn the 2020 election results of january 6th. of course the vice president does not have that power. while some republicans are steering figures to look to the future others are focusing on january 6th and the election lies. garrett haake, it's great to see you. you have been there talking to folks on capitol hill. what is the reaction to the
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rnc's move to censure cheney and kinzinger? >> it's been relatively muted thus far. that development happened friday right as lawmakers were leaving town. so the only folks who weighed in are those who want to and it's telling who those are. you have folks like bill cassidy or lisa murkowski, people who voted for the conviction of donald trump after his second impeachment after january 6th, who have condemned that move or at least questioned it and you've got most of the broader republican party largely look the other way. to me it's part of the reason the rnc's reason to go this route is so accusing. they've taken the tact the less they can talk about january 6th, acknowledge it at all, the better. as soon as lawmakers start showing up today, reporters like me will begin asking whether they think it was legitimate
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political discourse or not. >> you're going to have your microphone ready. i guess the concern is is it a risk to look to the past and not moving forward. i guess that brings me to my next question. you have two very different tactics when it comes to the house and senate republican leaders in terms of talking about the january 67th probe. what can you tell me about why mccarthy and mcconnell are on such different pages here? >> it's fascinating to watch. both want to lead majority next year. neither the house or senate republicans have put form any particular platform. they decided to run as a referendum on the biden administration. if you're mitch mcconnell, you got to win statewide like places like ohio, north carolina and pennsylvania. that means nominating serious people who can win statewide and
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keep focused. but if you're kevin, you need donald trump and the republican base. there are going to be very few competitive districts overall and he's made the calculation, he keeps the base and takes the risk you might get unelectable candidates up and down the line but they've taken it to the point that mcconnell said he's interested in what the committee finds out, mccarthy said the whole thing is a political witch hunt. we'll see which is most effective in the goal they share of not having to talk about this anymore. >> joe manchin and lisa murkowski very vocal.
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do you anticipate it will have a smooth pass and or are there speed bumps along the way? >> smooth eventually. there's broad bipartisan interest in doing something to shore up the act to make it clear the vice president has no role but a ceremonial one. maybe make some improvements to how votes are counted by the time they get to washington. but there's been no pen to paper, no legislative text or agreement on what goes into this bill. i think we're a long way before anything heads to the president's desk. >> garrett haake, thank you for covering all angles on both sides of pennsylvania avenue. coming up next, can the republican party figure out how to focus on the future when its leader can't stop talking about the past? you're watching "meet the press daily" only on msnbc. s daily" only on msnbc
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former president trump's grip over the republican party remains in focus because even those in the party speaking out against mr. trump's election lies are still saying he's an important voice for the party's future. here's vice president mike pence's former chief of staff mark short on "meet the press" with chuck todd yesterday. >> i think he's been very clear to say he believes that the president was wrong, believes the president was given bad advice on the day. it does not take away from what they accomplished working together for four years for the american people. >> does he still think donald trump should be the leader of the republican party? >> i hope that the president looks forward. >> joining me is former florida republican carlos carbello. thanks for both of you for joining me this hour. you just heard from mark short essentially he is trying to walk
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a very fine line when it comes to backing up the fact that his boss is rebuking former president trump but also not completely distancing themselves from trump. >> yeah. this is the impossible balancing act that every republican has to walk these days. on the one hand, they know deep down inside and maybe not even that deep down, that donald trump is not good for the republican party long term, that donald trump has done a lot of damage to the republican party and to the country. but they also know that donald trump has a lot of followers all over the country, people who show up at rallies, people who listen to everything he says and follow it almost religiously so they cannot lose those voters. it's the reason why a lot of republicans either step out and defend donald trump or just stay quiet because they're worried about their primaries. they don't want to get side ways with all those trump supporters and there's still a lot of trump supporters in this country, even though his numbers have been
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dropping. >> there certainly are. >> carol, let's just remind our viewers of what former vice president mike pence said on friday. he said donald trump was wrong, that he was not able to overturn the election. it felt like a very big moment when he said it. but now we've had a few days to kind of reflect. how significant is it that he's essentially saying president trump was wrong? >> well, it's huge. you and i covered this presidency up donald trump's and mike pence's and he was essentially a statue nodding affirmatively and applauding quietly by donald trump's side even so some of them were abhorrent. it's an amazing moment that he has declared trump was wrong. i don't think you can be more antagonistic in terms of how donald trump is receiving this.
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but i would say it's really important, too, to think about why, why now? we know pence wants to run for election. we also know that there is chatter inside the republican party, not the full on alt-right wing it have but a lot of the mainstream republicans are talking about what the january 6th committee will ultimately reveal and how bad that could be for donald trump and will the republican party be tagged with that kind of awfulness. and it's important to think of "the wall street journal," the bastion of how we're requesting to support republicans basically said this is pence's final hour. that's like saying okay, republicans party circle up
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behind and hitch your wagon to donald trump. >> you have the rnc lashing out of it, a number of republicans calling it a sham, attacking people unnecessarily just for political purposes. can you give us a reality check? what is the committee looking at right now? >> the committee has got i don't know -- gotten amazing documentary evidence and testimonials from many, many people about what was happening in the weeks and months before january 6th. remember donald trump famously in the spring began saying that if there was an election result in which he was not re-elected, there was probably going to be some corruption or rigging of that election. so he began very early softening the ground. but there are people who have now told the january 6th committee all of the multiple ways donald trump used his own hand and his own tongue to basically push for a rejection of a peaceful transfer of power,
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used his hand on the levers of some of the government's most powerful tools, the department of defense, the department of homeland security, the department of justice to try to block what was happening because pence was not agreeing with donald trump in those weeks before the certification that he had a right to challenge or reject those results in which joe biden was named appropriately, accurately, the next president. >> and, carlos, as we've been reporting on, the rnc censured two republican house members for being on the commit. >> i'm not here to be the representative of the republican party, i'm here to be the representative for alaskan people and i take that charge very, very seriously.
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so when there is a conflict, when the party is -- is taking an approach or saying things that i think are just absolutely wrong, i think it's my responsibility as an alaskan senator speaking out for alaskans to just speak the truth. >> how politically risky is it for senator murkowski to speak out, carlos? >> well, there's certainly some risks, but senator murkowski is no stranger to risk taking. she already defeated her own party when they ran someone against her. so she does have the courage of her convictions and she understands that long term -- might work in the short term but long term the big lie is going to be exposed over and over again, most recently by donald trump's vice president. so long term it is not a winning strategy. long term the republican party
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will not succeed as long as it is built on top of this massive lie that donald trump promoted on the 6th of january and every day since then. >> all right. thanks to both of you for a great conversation about the republican party and everything that has happened in recent days. fascinating to watch. carlos and carol, really appreciate it. coming up next, meet the mid terms, the extremely crowded senate primary in pennsylvania is getting increasingly nasty. we have interviews with the top candidates coming up. you're watching "meet the press daily." watching "meet the pres daily.
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welcome back. we are getting our first readout of president biden's meeting just moments ago with germany's new chancellor. at the top of the meeting the president told reporters the pair has a lot of work to discuss including the potential invasion by russia to ukraine. the president will hold a press conference alongside germany's chancellor. we'll bring that to you live. the committee of the gop's state's officials declined a candidate for an open seat. former president trump's endorsement is still up for
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grabs in this race, once again casting a spotlight on the peril and sway in the party, and he's picking candidates on their loyalty and not electability. great to see you. what is the state of play in pennsylvania? >> so good to see you. over the weekend pennsylvania's republican party held their committee meeting with senate candidates in the hotly watched race made their case for why they should fill retiring senator pat toomey's seat. trump had endorsed carnel but dropped out of the race last year leaving the race wide open. >> over the weekend at a closed-door event, the state republican party voting not to endorse any new candidates. the newest name in the race,
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flexing money and maga connections. >> i am not in politics. it has been a new transition for me. >> the former connecticut resident, veteran and hedge fund executive getting heat on his roots and business deal tphgz china. >> i spent the majority of my life in pennsylvania, and i am a pennsylvania taxpayer and this is a continuation of public service to pennsylvania and the country. >> do you regret some of the business you did in china? was any of that a mistake? >> look, i have been blessed, and just like president trump's experience helped him be a great president, my experience in business is something i am proud of and i want to make sure the dream i have lived is available for them. >> i want to know what is getting your blood pressure off? >> dr. oz olding a rally with the focus on covid-19. >> the main thing i hear is, i know who dr. oz is but he's not
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from here and i don't know what he stands for. >> i want republican primary voters to be skeptical, kick the tires, on inflation and the problems with the schools and at the border -- >> we spoke to multiple voters in recent days, and they are skeptical. >> i was a skeptic for sure, but he answered a lot of questions that for me were the right answers. >> what were your concerns about dr. oz coming in? >> just maybe being a drifter. >> jeff bartos is speaking. >> they see opportunities. i am the only candidate that is a life long pennsylvanian. >> he has out performed his high profile rivals, and there's another candidate performing well in straw polls, kathy
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barnett. >> people are unnerved by what they lived there. >> barnett made headlines for suing over the results of the 2020 election in the commonwealth. >> do you believe that joe biden fairly and legitimately won the election? >> i believe there are a number of questions. >> the other candidates, mainly shying away from trump's false claims of a stolen election, but the former president still looming large in a state that helped put biden in the white house. >> are you hoping for an endorsement from former president trump? >> we would love his support. >> absolutely. >> if president trump endorsed me, i would be delighted. >> these candidates still have a lot to prove to pennsylvania voters and many of the voters are sceptical and wary of the promises candidates make on the trail, and voter records show mccormick and oz were registered to vote in other states, and
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mccormick's campaign is registered in the state as well as oz. >> great interviews with the candidates and it's fascinating to hear from the voters. appreciate your great reporting. thank you all for being with us this hour. we will be back tomorrow with more "meet the press daily." msnbc coverage continues with katy tur after the break. katy tur after the break up at 2:00am again? tonight, try pure zzzs all night. unlike other sleep aids, our extended release melatonin helps you sleep longer. and longer. zzzquil pure zzzs all night. fall asleep. stay asleep. throughout history
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good afternoon. i am katy tur. president biden is in a high stakes meeting with the leader of germany after allies accused germany of not pulling its weight when it comes to the crisis in ukraine. on the table today, germany's contribution or lack there of to ukraine's defenses, and how their continued reliance on the north stream pipeline plays into their position on russia. that is president biden and the german chancellor just a moment ago. the pipeline to bring natural gas into germany from russia, and critics argue germany is worried of disrupting that supply by angering russia. at the same time, french president, emmanuel macron, is in russia and met with vladimir pun

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