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he left office. the archives released a statement saying quote, in mid january, 2022, the national archives and records administration arranged for the transport from the trump mar-a-lago property in florida to the national archives of 15 boxes that contain presidential records following discussions with president trump's representatives in 2021. the statement continues. they are continuing to search for additional presidential records that belong to the national archives. the washington post was first to report on this writing quote, trump advisers deny any if areas intent and said the boxes contained momentous, gifts, letters from world leaders, including kim jong-un own and barack obama. tonight, the new york times reports the retrieve documents also included a map that mr. trump famously drew on with a black sharpie marker to demonstrate the track of hurricane dorian heading toward alabama and 2019 to backup a declaration he had made on twitter that contradicted weather forecast.
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it's not yet known if any of those 15 boxes of records taken from mar-a-lago contain any documents related to january 6th, but recall trump did go to the supreme court to try to keep the records out of the select committee's hands. a case he lost. we're also learning more about the january six committee strategy and tactics as it focuses on trump's allies. the new york times reports the panel is quote, borrowing techniques from federal prosecutions, employing aggressive tactics typically used against mobsters and terrorists as it seeks to breakthrough stonewalling from former president donald j trump, and his allies and develop evidence that could prompt a criminal case. earlier this evening, one committee member spoke of his concerns about the justice department's handling of cases that are stemming from the capitol attack. >> the violence of january 6th, they're pursuing it vigorously, including people who are not present but nonetheless were
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involved in a seditious conspiracy. where i have less confidence's other efforts to overturn election, such as the former president on the phone with the secretary in georgia trying to course that secretary into finding 11,780 votes that don't exist. i think if you or i or any of your viewers were on the phone recording the conversation like that we would be under investigation. it shouldn't matter that this was the former president of the united states. >> we're also getting another view of just how dangerous january 6th was for officials, staff and law enforcement of the capital. the justice department today released more new video evidence from its criminal cases. one rioter is seen making violent threats about what would happen if then vice president pence did not overturn the 2020 election. >> if pence k, we will drag those bleep burst through the
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streets. you politicians are gonna get dragged through the streets, because we're not going to have our effing votes stolen. we are here to take it back from you. cut their head off! >> one of the two republicans on the january 6th panel says he's now concerned the nation could be heading towards civil war. >> it is a real possibility. >> am i hearing you right, congressman? you fear potentially there could be a civil war here in the united states? >> i do. and a year ago i would have said no, not a chance, but i have come to realize that when we don't see each other's fellow americans, when we begin to separate into cultural identities, when we begin to basically give up everything we believe and so we could be part of a group, and then when you have leaders that come and abuse that faithfulness of that group to violent ends as we saw on january 6th. we would be naive to think it's not possible here. our basic survival is at stake.
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>> house democrats are also focusing on preventing a government shutdown just 11 days from now on february 18th. lawmakers are expected to act as soon as this week tomorrow they will consider a bill that would fund the government through march 11th, and as democrats try to maintain the majority in the house and senate, a supreme court ruling tonight is raising new concerns about voting rights. the high court cleared the way for alabama to use its new conversion will district map, even though a lower court said the map violates the voting rights act by denying african american voters and your district. at the white house today the president was focused on the crisis over ukraine. he met with germany's new chancellor olaf scholz to discuss potential actions
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should russia invade ukraine. as those talks were going on in washington, french president emmanuel macron was sitting down with vladimir putin in moscow. we have a lot more on the high stakes situation along the ukrainian border in just a few minutes. with that, let's bring in our lead off guest on this monday night, philip, pulitzer prize -winning senior washington correspondent for the washington post, coauthor with carol of the new york times bestseller, i alone can fix it. big veteran washington journalist and associate editor and columnist for real clear politics. the department of justice and former acting solicitor general during the obama administration who has argued dozens of cases before the u.s. supreme court. welcome one and all. phil, we now know the national archives as waiting for more records from trump. but here is something your colleagues reported in the washington post. when the january six committee asked for certain documents related to trump's effort to pressure vice president mike pence, for example, some of them no longer existed because they had already been shredded, set someone familiar with that request. the presidential records act is not a suggestion, it requires presidents to turn nyone like te
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counsel's office saying wait, we can't do this? >> you're exactly right, chris, as a federal law as presidents and their staff turnover all of those records to the national archives and it's a matter of public trust and they were of course public servants while serving or while trump served as president, and as for the white house counsel, keep in mind the white house counsel any other lawyers in the counsel's office have a ton of issues on their plate in those final weeks of the presidency, including trying to restrain us best they could the presidents impulses to try to overturn the election results. there was a lot on the line for that then white house counsel pat cipollone. that's not to make any sort of excuse for not maintaining
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these records, but it's just to provide some context of with a high stakes high pressure environment it was in those final weeks of the presidency for those people who were working as the president's lawyers in the counsel's office. >> is there any doubt based on your reporting that donald trump had been told at some point or multiple times that these records needed to be kept? >> chris, of course he was told these records needed to be kept, it's something that all presidents are told at the beginning when they come into office. it's also something that his chiefs of staff, is assistance and of course the people who served over the years as the white house counsel were well aware of it's a matter of federal law. this was a requirement from day one of the presidency and the fact that trump did not maintain those records and hand them over to the national archives speaks to him not caring about with the lot
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required of them. >> we all remember, at least i remember that after one of his state of the union's he was actually walking to marine one -- he started saying how nancy fellow see had broken the law because she ripped up his speech. i want to play for you, yes some understanding about documents, somebody had told him that, that documents should be shredded. this is a sample of what we heard from trump about hillary clinton's emails all through the campaign. >> hillary set up an illegal server for the obvious purpose of shielding her criminal conduct from public disclosure and exposure. this was not just extreme carelessness. this is calculated, deliberate, premeditated misconduct. people have nothing to hide don't bleach their emails or destroy evidence to keep it from being publicly archived as required under federal law. a criminal action was willful, deliberate, intentional, and purposeful. we could be sure that what is
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in those emails is absolutely devastated. >> so he seemed to have two different standards for himself and for hillary clinton, who by the way, was not president, having said that is there any legal exposure for trump here, or is this a case of well, if we eventually get them all as well that ends well? >> no, there is huge illegal expenditure to use -- i think you stole my thunder. trump went around the campaign time and again saying you can't destroy records, you can't destroy records. i take those points about how the end of the trump administration, there was a lot of chaos, but even a white house as incompetent as donald trump's from the first day on
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said here is the presidential records act, was passed after watergate because nixon tried to destroy documents. it's a crime to violate this. he had to have been told about that. and trump was bent on hiding evidence, whether he was ripping it up or trying to hide it in mar-a-lago or whatever. you get the sense that donald trump would have burned all these documents of somebody on his staff would have trusted him with a match. there are several criminal statutes that are violated like 2071 which forbids the concealment, the removal or the destruction of the documents. it is no defense that his defenders are saying this is how donald trump ran his business. he ripped up memos and stuff like that. that's not a defense. jimmy carter can't comply georgia government rules when he's the president. the first president bush can't apply cia rules. the second president bush cannot apply texas ranger rules. you are the president of the united states. there is a rulebook that applies. it's criminal. these are fairly easy cases. i think if they are not brought, what does that say about the
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criminal justice system? you've got a guy at the very top who is flagrantly violating the law that undoubtedly he was told about time and again. >> so let's talk about the republicans and we are hearing now from some of the senators on the party's decision to censure liz cheney and adam kinzinger on friday. i want to play a couple of witnessing tonight. >> i talked to rana, she's a good lady and the statement -- she doesn't -- she was talking about things other than violence. and, you know, i think all of us up here want to talk about forward not backward. >> we've got issues that we should be focusing on besides's ensuring to members of congress because they have a different opinion. >> do you agree with the action, actually sunshine cheney and kinzinger? >> you know, it's not my job. but they said in the resolution they wanted republicans to be unified. that was not a unifying action. >> anything that my party does
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that comes across as being stupid is not going to help us. >> senator graham of course was referring to ron mcdaniel who happens by the way to be senator romney's niece, but to the bigger question. how much does this rnc censure decision and the move to describe 16 as legitimate political discourse complicate things from members on the hill, especially those running for reelection? >> i think actually this is much more consequential than people initially believe, they were sort of looking around this weekend to see if more than four republicans had said it was wrong, and now you have these letter today, 140 republicans and members of congress and public officials in the republican party discussing, dismissing this as outrageous that this is not just a censure of the two members on the committee, that bumper sticker blood legitimate
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political discourse is gonna be a huge problem for donors who don't want to be asked about this and four republican candidates up and down the ballot this fall. it's not just senator cornyn getting a mic in the hallway of the wrestle building. it's actually just a well-known phrase now that will burn the rnc and really put republicans on the spot as candidates throughout the campaign season to not just say what do you think about, maybe we'll, maybe they're too aggressive. they have to answer to whether or not their party believes that that is legitimate political discourse. i think that's going to be very damaging for many of them who don't -- who try to -- who don't refused to reject outright with the senators have in the last couple of days. >> so we mentioned the new york
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times is reporting on how the january 6th is working its inquiry, taking a page out of organized crime investigations, using data mapping techniques that they also use to i. d. terrorist networks. is it possible the committee as outpacing whatever the doj might be doing? could it be the justices only focusing on prosecuting those who carried out the actual riot? what do you read into this new information? >> i think the committee is reacting to a really unprecedented stall destruction strategy by the trump white house. it started with them trying to destroy the documents -- trump reaping them up. he didn't rip them up in small enough pieces that the archives were able to put them back together. then he asserted executive privilege over the documents trying to prevent them from being turned over to the 16 committee.
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he lost that in the supreme court 8 to 1. so now the new tactic is to say well, they forgot -- so that's no surprise that the justice -- is using a bunch of serious techniques to try to get at that. in fact the most serious technique we just got word of today, which is steve bannon's attorney, a guy named robert costello, the justice department revealed that they've gone to try to get some of bannon's attorneys calling information and email information. that is a really traumatic step that requires high-level approval of the justice department. the justice department's been clear to say they are not seeking attorney client material, they're seeking information outside of that, but to me that demonstrates the real seriousness of this as a response to whet the former white house officials and others in the trump were trying to do stonewalling the investigation. >> as that investigation continues, amy, we've heard
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congressman kinzinger's concerns about the new visions in this nation growing into a much more dangerous threat. maybe even civil war. do you think that's more one man's opinion or are the republicans who might agree they just don't want to step out and say so publicly? >> well, i think congressman kinzinger is right. we just heard the former president a week ago in his rally in texas basically call and a not remotely veiled way or the biggest protests ever against any prosecutors that would go after him in georgia, d. c. or new york state, that everybody knows with that means, that he said there were going to do illegal things in that they were racist. so he knows after january 6th when his followers will do. he knows that he is essentially inciting violence. there hasn't been a republican since -- there hasn't been a backlash to that since last week. people are saying this is really dangerous and after january six we certainly don't want him to encourage anymore
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protests that we that would become violent. everybody's looking the other way and ducking. i think it is a serious threat. it is our domestic terror threat, it's our worst security threat right now. this is the kind of thing the republican party wants to avoid talking about. it's not that the threat is real, it's just that they just want to look away and say that donald trump is just using interesting language. so when the committee turns out in terms of potential threats that are ongoing, organized funded threats, that will raise the conversation again, put those republican candidates on defense and having to answer to those findings, but every time trumps gets up and incites violence, they seem to be pretty quiet. >> phil, joe biden's attention has been largely focused on ukraine and russia, certainly today, obviously. it was top of the agenda. it's been a lot of time on -- the state of the union is coming up fast. march 1st. so this is a critical period
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ahead. what do you know about how the white house is trying to make sure his domestic agenda, the things they feel he's accomplished say front and center with voters? >> chris, there are a couple of things the white house is trying to do now with regards to the domestic agenda and politicking ahead of the midterm campaigns. they want to try to remind voters what's biden actually signed into law last year. there's been so much media attention on the failure of the build back better, which is the centerpiece of his domestic agenda that has pale to failed to pass the senate. little attention relatively speaking paid to the pair of successes, the big infrastructure bill that passed near the end of last year and that covid economic stimulus relief package early on in the presidency and so you could inspect biden trying to refrain things for the american public at the state of the union address to talk about wet has passed and how that infrastructure bill in
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particular is improving big roads, bridges, etc in various communities around the country. i think you can also expect to hear a full throttled push on voting rights. remember it has not passed the senate yet, but the administration has an entirely given up on it. i think you're also going to hear some clarity from the president on foreign policy. the ukraine crisis is a crisis indeed, but it hasn't quite captivated the attention of the american people. i think people are a little bit confused as to what is at stake there for the united states. i would expect to hear from the president at that state of union when he knows millions of peoples might be watching to try to articulate some sort of a mission as it relates to ukraine. >> thank you all. great to have you all have here tonight. thank you. coming up, as ukraine awaits russia's next move, a retired four star general helps us assess the ten situation along
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the border. an update on the war over masks. we will ask a leading doctor about the wisdom of winding down school mask mandates in several states. the 11th hour just getting underway on a monday night. ht
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>> we have made it very clear, we are ready to continue talks in good faith with russia. but if russia makes a choice to further invade ukraine, we are jointly ready and all of nato is ready. we are in agreement, that it cannot be businesses usual if russia further invades. >> standing alongside germany's leader, the president today promising a united response
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against russia aggression. as ukraine and nato forces await for the kremlin's next move. a u.s. official tells an assembly scene news that russia has reportedly now gathered 70% of the forces needed to launch a full scale invasion of ukraine. and we are told that invasion would be likely to cause significant casualties, killing or wounding up to 50,000 civilians within weeks. back with us tonight, retired four star u.s. army general, a decorated combat veteran of vietnam, and former battlefield commander in the persian golf. he is a former cabinet member and national security council. always an honor to talk you general. look, members of congress first got these assessments of the consequences if russia invades, matt military and civilian casualties, kyiv could fall, do you believe these assessments and will they factor into the kremlin's decision on whether
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or not to invade? >> there is an element of disbelief, looking at what putin has done over the last several months. there is no question that he has put together a mass of air land and sea military capability, that could take down ukraine. and in my judgment, under 90 days. and that is from the north and belarus, east, russia, he has brought a maritime forces which could attack ukraine's maritime border. all over the russian federation. and so are they going to go in? it's an illogical decision, the ukrainians would fight and would have to find cities and keith. you name it. it's an enormous ground area. it would frighten all of europe
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into coalescing around the nato even more strongly. it would be an illogical act. i think today was a good day for deterrence. having the german chancellor, certainly either support or not contradict president biden. germany, the most powerful economic power in europe, is standing with deterrence. so we will have to see. but as you look at it, just from a forensics military stance, putin looks like he is ready to go on an all out invasion. waiting for the spark to ignite it. >> you are not alone in the assessment that it does not make sense. there have been reports that former russian general has been publicly against invading. and former u.s. ambassador to russia, wrote this, this is a big deal, at one time, albeit a long while ago, general evil shot was a respectful and hawkish leader in the russian ministry of defense.
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played a major role in pristine a standoff with nato in 1999. do you agree, speaking as a general yourself, is that a big deal? >> oh yeah, i think so. this is not the west. these are not retired flag officers supporting presidential candidates. this guy was a main stream hard-line soviet style commander. and for him to come out and publicly criticize putin over this pending military operation is simply astonishing. i would be on surprised if he does not disappear shortly. but he must have done it, sensing support among the armed forces. look, putin has gone in and taking down elements of syria, georgia, crimea, the don boss. he has demonstrated his capability to use brutal military force to intimidate or sees foreign land. he is a threat clearly, to poland, the baltic nations.
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so the west has to wake up to this massive threat. ukraine will not be the end of it. but to putin, the ukraine's mother russia. he sees it slipping away, developing western values. on the european union for the economy. so he is tempted to act. i think now he thinks he's in a box and cannot figure out how to get out of it. >> let me ask you about that. is there any possibility that he, maybe even in the beginning, had decided to move all of these forces in place to say hey, this is what we have got and we have the military might to do it if we want to. is there still some sort of diplomatic off-ramps that he could except, that he would feel would save face. >> i sure hope he does. because it's going to be a disaster for russia if he actually invades. it will actually only be the combat fighting and trying to
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secure the streets of kyiv, it will also be massive demonstrations. millions of ukrainians fleeing into the nato nations and appearing all across europe. it will be an utter disaster. there will be played look displays of rejection by the ukrainians in the big city. they have to sort a way out of this. i don't think he thought through this. he thought the real military power, and by the way these are pretty good troops. this is good technology, well trained, disciplined forces. he thought that would give him the political victory that he needed. and at the end of the day, he actually wants to get ukraine. so as an interim step, he thought he could intimidate them. and at the end of the day, he is still going to try to seize ukraine and bring it back into the folds of the russian federation. >> quite a sobering assessment. general mcafee, so good to have you on the program, thank you. coming up, mike pence tells the truth. resulting in a time of reckoning for at least some in the gop. to political observers on what
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to watch out for next, when the 11th hour continues.
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man, he has an honest man. i think he did what he thought was right. on that day. but i will always say it, i'm
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just not a fan of republicans going against republicans. because the only ones that win when that happens are the democrats and the media. donald trump's former un ambassador, nikki haley, not pleased with her former vice presidents former rebuke of his old boss. the conservative wall street journal editorial board on the other hand, is not hesitating to criticize republicans. calling january 6th, pence's finest hour. quote, mister pence stands out as a rare republican these days, willing to stand up to mr. trump's disgraceful behavior after the election. too many in the gop seem to have lost their constitutional moorings, enthralled to one man. back with us tonight, don calloway, democratic strategist and founder of the national voter protection action fund. susan del percio, msnbc
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political analyst and a veteran political strategist, good to see both of you. what does it say that the republican party cannot find its way to unifying and condemning trump's actions? full stop. do >> i am just amazed by how low the bar is to give praise. are we really going to elevate mike pence? listen, mike pence is going to be used for much greater things than he was when he was vice president, because he has an opportunity now to be a guy who brings us back to norms. who brings us back to respect for democracy. who brings us back for respect for respecting the idioms that have gotten us this far in a civil society. but look at how easy it was for mainstream media publications to say, mike pence is the man.
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we have to remember, that between november 5th and january 6th, was approximately 60 days that mike pence had an opportunity to resign, to stand up and speak out against the madness that he saw brewing within the bowels of the white house. he had an opportunity to do a lot to subvert and actual insurrection, in which the confederate flag made its way to the rotunda for the first time in the history of the union. mike pence could've gone a whole lot to stop that. and he did not. so i kind of have a hard time of elevating him to some kind of stay right now. >> nikki haley doesn't like pence going after republicans, but isn't that exactly with the rnc did? i looked it up, giving liz cheney a higher conservative rating this section, 96%, then the average house republican. and yet, she has called out by the party, officially, as not
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being a legit republican. >> yeah. i would have sworn that statement from nikki kayleigh would have come from the onion about five years ago. because it is just that observe. does she not remember who she worked for in the previous administration? and how the former guy went after every republican that didn't agree with him. so i will put her comments aside. there but what is important, is that there was a line drawn in the sand by the rnc. and yes, mike pence's comments were important. but to don's point. he is getting a. lot of credit for telling the truth. he is not standing up, he is not fighting for something. he is simply telling the truth. and i cannot think it is a little more calculated than all
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of this chris. just to get the statement out there. mike short, his chief of staff, pence's chief of staff. gave testimony, sworn testimony, to the select committee. earlier in the week. then you have mike pence. then you have marc short, going on embassies meet the press to give an interview highlighting all of the steps along. i cannot help it think this is a way to get mike pence to avoid testifying in front of the january 6th select committee. >> you know, there are don, 140 republicans denouncing rnc's decision to censure kinzinger and cheney. part of it reads, history will
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mark this century as a turning point for the rnc, a time between choosing between civility and patriotism on the one hand, and conspiracy and political violence on the other. we stand firmly for the first set of values. where is everybody else, and does this kind of statement have any impact at all? >> unfortunately, it does not. because the folks who are causing the most chaos and who remain the most imminent threat, to over, all known only good government, but the preservation of democracy, they are not listening to these primary academic maybe elevates. allow the new york times. even the most conservatives journalists. the wall street journal. they are not talking to the audience which is driving the chaotic energy, the murder synergy in public affairs right now. so i think there is such a vast crevice between 4chan and -- >> as we see people speaking nationally, at the local level, for example, in arizona, the speaker of the house, the state house of representatives, a republican. a trump supporter. was the sole finalized vote that killed arizona's proposed legislation that would allow the gop-controlled legislature to revoke the results of an election. so it took a republican to do that. let me also add, there was a chief justice of the ohio
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supreme court. the core is three, four, democrat republican. that republican chief justice sided with the democrats, saying that the ohio maps, republican drawn maps, were not valid. and send them back. so there are republicans standing up. and it is very important for democrats not to put all republicans in the same basket all of the time. because those republicans are going to need those center-right votes in order to win in november. >> go ahead, on really quick. >> it should not be close. it shouldn't come down to suzanne collins. every 18 months. >> that's not who i'm talking about. i am just saying that there are people at a local level taking a stand, that are more than just words. >> as some of the secretaries of state did after the election. >> correct.
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>> susan, don, thank you to both of you, appreciate it. coming up, we are going to ask the doctor about when mask mandates should be lifted in schools, after several states announced and dates for those measures, when the 11th hour continues.
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>> citing falling covid numbers, new jersey's governor phil, new jersey's governor phil murphy announced that school murphy announced that school mask mandates in the state will mask mandates in the state will be lifted one month from today. be lifted one month from today. delaware is lifting its school delaware is lifting its school mandates at the end of march mandates at the end of march and connecticut will no longer and connecticut will no longer require masks at school as of require masks at school as of february 28th. february 28th. oregon will and its statewide oregon will and its statewide masking rule, including for masking rule, including for schools, no later than march 31st. schools, no later than march 31st. now in all four states, now in all four states, individual districts will be individual districts will be able to set their own mask policies. able to set their own mask policies. with us for more, dr. with us for more, dr. bhadelia, an infectious disease physician and founding bhadelia, an infectious director of boston university disease physician and founding's center for emerging infectious diseases policy and director of boston university's center for emerging research. infectious diseases policy and so, this is tough. research. and in new jersey, cases are so, this is tough.
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down 71%. and in new jersey, cases are down 71%. hospitalizations are down 49%. hospitalizations are down 49%. deaths down 17% in the last deaths down 17% in the last two weeks. two weeks. given the decreases there and in some states, like that, given the decreases there and in some states, like that, what do you make of this announcement? what do you make of this announcement? >> the thing that is sort of >> the thing that is sort of frustrating me throughout this frustrating me throughout this pandemic, it is often that you pandemic, it is often that you see politicians or governors, see politicians or governors, or folks who are trying to make or folks who are trying to make well-meaning decisions, place well-meaning decisions, place the deadlines based on dates, the deadlines based on dates, rather than metrics. rather than metrics. and what you will see, recommendations for the cdc for and what you will see, recommendations for the cdc for example, in terms of what their guidance would be, and example, in terms of what their guidance would be, and putting on or off ramps, on putting on or off ramps, on restrictions. restrictions. are based on metrics. are based on metrics. and so while al agreed that there should be an off ramp. and in times where there is low transmission, the cases and so while al agreed that are coming down. i think what you started with, which was that there is only ten states that have statewide there should be an off ramp. and in times where there is mandates. low transmission, the cases are coming down. and every single locality and i think what you started with city has their own version of, which was that there is only ten states that have statewide
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this. mandates. the reason that it has been and every single locality and frustrating for everybody, is city has their own version of this. that there is not that unifying the reason that it has been metrics. frustrating for everybody, is that there is not that unifying metrics. and those are, i think, in my mind, has to be community and those are, i think, in my mind, has to be community transmission. transmission. kids represent the transmission that is happening kids represent the in the community. transmission that is happening in the community. and 30% of all pediatric infections happen in january in the setting of omicron. and 30% of all pediatric to, you have to base it on infections happen in january in health care capacity. because kids live in families. the setting of omicron. multigenerational families, where people might be vulnerable. and three, you want to base it on vaccination. to, you have to base it on and of course, for younger health care capacity. because kids live in families. multigenerational families, where people might be kids, those vaccines aren't vulnerable. and three, you want to base it on vaccination. and of course, for younger kids, those vaccines aren't yet available for those under five. yet available for those under and so getting those rates of five. and so getting those rates of past to be a goal that the past to be a goal that the governor will focus on as well. governor will focus on as well. >> governor murphy said that >> governor murphy said that he's not declaring victory, he's not declaring victory, but learning to live responsibly with the virus. is what he is going after. but learning to live but i guess the question is, what does that look like as we move forward? responsibly with the virus. is it looking at those metrics is what he is going after. and could it mean sometimes the but i guess the question is, mask rule is there, and sometimes it is not? what does that look like as we move forward? is it looking at those metrics
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>> that is right. and that is why the metrics are a better way to go. and could it mean sometimes the mask rule is there, and we have all been through -- sometimes it is not? >> that is right. including myself, pushing through the other side. and that is why the metrics are a better way to go. we want to get to the other we have all been through -- side. including myself, pushing and honestly, that is what's through the other side. we want to get to the other side. and honestly, that is what's sort of has taken us by surprise. sort of has taken us by surprise. we are existing in a cyclical we are existing in a cyclical event. event. we see surges come up. we see surges come up. in the south, in the summer, in the south, in the summer, in the north in the winter. who knows what's going to happen when new variants. our goal needs to be in the peace times. when lower cases. in times of lower cases, continue to build our efforts to make those surges less deadly. less high in numbers. and we can only do that if we stand ready to take those measures when we need to. but you know, i also think that when there is lower transmission, potentially considering with those off-ramps, objective off-ramps should be. any advice for pandemics -- >> if they transmission in your schools are high. rather high. i see masks as a way of keeping
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kids in school. allowing in school instruction. because essentially, if you send kids in and you take away masks in a setting of high community transmission, which you are potentially doing is creating situations where kids might get exposed and have to come home anyways. so functionally, you are reducing the chances of getting in school learning. but in cases where the transmission is low. again, kids represent their communities. and transmission. when the transmission and slow and communities, the big thing is going to be making sure that everybody around them is vaccinated. if they are eligible. with numbers like 39% or something. at this point, kids under 11, between five and 11 are vaccinated. still not where they need to be. that is what we have to concentrate on. is bringing those community numbers down. keeping them in place until they are there. and then of course improving pediatric vaccination rates. >> dr. nahid but dahlia, always good to talk to you, and coming up, why ottawa has declared a state of emergency, as truckers protesting vaccine mandates bring much of the city to a standstill.
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>> let me say the canadian truckers are heroes. they are patriots. and they are marching for your freedom and for my freedom. they are, those truck drivers, god bless them. they are can -- >> republicans now throwing their support behind truck drivers loudly protesting vaccine mandates in canada. the freedom convoy has successfully interrupted life in the canadian capital of ottawa for 11 days now. and some gop lawmakers are suggesting similar protesters be held here. >> the ear piercing protests, starlink streets with big rigs. as demonstrators demand an end to the countries mandatory vaccination requirement for truckers crossing the u.s. canadian border.
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dubbed, the freedom convoy, the movement is being called an insurrection by some. paralyzing the canadian capital. >> nobody is here to hurt anything, we are just here to be heard. >> the canadian trucking alliance estimates that just 10% of cross border truckers are unvaccinated. in a blow to protesters, one source of funding has been cut off after gun fund-raise said they will return $9 million in the donation, citing unlawful activity. >> we are turning up the heat in every way we possibly can within our operations and enforcement. >> today, a canadian judge signed a injunction, to stop incessant honking. as diesel fumes frustrate residents and shop owners alike. >> difficult to breathe. you cannot hear yourself think. after an hour, the headache is excruciating. the >> 11-day protest now declared a state of emergency, with much of the city locked down in a blanket of gridlock.
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the mayor now asking for 2000 additional police officers. >> was initially described as a peaceful protest, has now turned into a siege of our downtown area. >> with reports of protests turning violent, canada's prime minister justin trudeau says that there is no plan for now to call in the military to clear the streets. >> we are going to end these mandates, and these lockdowns. >> sara's restaurant is empty, the unprecedented occupation of ottawa has a stranglehold on the economy. >> people are struggling to pay their bills, pay their rent, they are begging to come into work, but there is simply no work to be had right now. for now, the white house said that they can canadian chaos has not infected the supply chain of the u.s.. >> thanks to miguel for that report. just ahead, for most brits, she is the only queen they've ever known, now she is naming her own successor. we will explain when the 11th hour continues.
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tonight, the queen's platinum jubilee. the 70th anniversary of queen elizabeth the second a seeding the british throne, was marked by royal gun salutes today in london's green park, right next to buckingham palace. since the actual anniversary fell on a sunday, tradition dictates that royal solution be held fouling day. there was a modest celebration over the weekend, with a much larger four-day event planned for june. her royal highness is the longest reigning british monarch. the first to reach a platinum jubilee. the queen's coronation, june 2nd, 1953. the first ever to be televised. in her 70 years on the throne, she has met 13 presidents. from harry truman, to joe biden. worked with 14 prime ministers, from winston churchill, to boris johnson. but perhaps getting most attention today, is what she had to say about her daughter and law.
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camilla, the duchess of cornwall. in her statement, the queen said quote, and when in the fullest of time, my son charles becomes king, i know you will give him and his wife camilla the same support that you have given me. and it is my sear which wish that when the time comes, kamala will be known as queen consort as she continues her own loyal service. as the new york times points out, this announcement puts to rest any speculation on camilla 's future in the royal family. that is our broadcast for this monday night, with our thanks for being with us. on behalf of all of my colleagues at the networks of nbc news, goodnight. tonight, on all in. one year since the second impeachment warning on white house burn map and documents seizure at mar-a-lago. >> the person out there needs to pin down every republican and say do you side with what the ire are sea did, or do you condemn what they did? >> today how donald trump has maintained a stranglehold on
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the republican party. and then, how our fanning the flames unimportant north of the border. plus, the shadow dockets drinks again. the stunning supreme court decision that just reroute the voting rights act. and a personal bankruptcy collapsing to a 25-year low. why aren't democrats taking more credit for the biden boom. all in starts right now. good evening from new york i. m. chris hayes it. was one year ago today that the second trial of donald trump in the senate, trump of course the only u.s. president in history to have been impeached lights. because only two presidents were impeach before. i'm president johnson, and president clinton. trump accounts for all presidential of peach mints. the second time of course was for inciting the deadly insurrection of january six. and that case was presented a year ago t

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