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responsibility, quell the unrest, and ensure president elect biden is able to successfully begin his term. >> kevin mccarthy, and the gun toting lauren boebert gets tonight's last word. the 11th hour starts now. tonight's last word. the 11th hour starts now >> good evening, i am chris jansing, day 386 of the biden administration, we begin with breaking news. the new york times says that with a brand-new reporting tonight on with the national archives found inside of those boxes that the former president took to florida after leaving office. the times says the archives were possibly calcified information was among the records found at mar-a-lago, and the discoveries after -- prompted the national archives to reach out to the justice
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department for guidance. the department told the national archives to have its inspector general examine the matter. it is unclear what the inspector general has done since then. well today, nbc news confirmed that doj has been asked to look into whether the federal law regulating presidential records was violated by the trump administration. adam schiff is a member of the january 6th select committee. >> it looks very willful. if there is evidence of potential woefulness and the destruction of documents, that is the kind of case that if any case is going to be prosecuted, might be prosecuted. >> earlier today, there was a major escalation from the january six committee as it goes after another of trump's fiercest allies, the committee has now subpoenaed his former traded by, sir peter navarro, in doing so it says navarro, quote, reportedly worked with steve bannon and others to develop an implement a plan to delay congress's certification of, and ultimately change the
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outcome of the november 2020 presidential election. in his book, mr. navarro describes this plan as the green bay sweep. in an interview, mr. navarro reportedly added that the former president was on board with the strategy. and, just last month, peter navarro gave our own melfort, specific details on how that sweep was supposed to work. >> we had over 100 congressmen and senators on capitol hill ready to implement the sweep. we were going to challenge the results of the election, in the six battleground states. most, or all of those states would be serve defy the election, that would throw the election to the house of representatives. senator ted cruz and gosar representative started the green bay sweep you to flee. the election was -- we were following the constitution and rules of the senate to simply get a recount
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of what the votes were. >> the 16 committee wants navarro to produce documents by february 20, third and short for a deposition on march 2nd. also tonight, the washington post is reporting rudy giuliani and other trump legal advisers have asked a republican prosecutor and northern michigan to turn over his counties voting machines, to trump's team following the 2020 election. the post spoke with a prosecutor who told the paper the request was made during a phone call after the county initially misreported election results that showed a win for biden. the county corrected that error, yet, still became the basis for trump's false claims that the election was stolen. giuliani's deposition with the 16 committee was scheduled for yesterday, but has been postponed. this afternoon, another panel member laid out what she is hoping to eventually hear from him. >> how many iterations of plots are there that have been, you know, hatched, and reported, first, second, third hand about
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voting machines, who is going to take them, which ones, where, which company, all of it is just showing that there was a lot of desperation going on. it seems like they were trying anything, and everything that they could. >> we are also following the latest in the rift among top republicans over the rnc's resolution's ensuring 16 committee members liz cheney, and adam kinzinger. yesterday, mitch mcconnell took the rnc the task for issuing that resolution. today, house republican leader kevin mccarthy, again defended the rnc. >> the rnc's job is to help the republican party continue to grow, but the rnc has, they also have a responsibility to say their own opinion of others. i think a lot of republicans out there look at some of the actions of adam and liz, and have real problems with it. >> meanwhile, a bitter political battle north of the border could be headed south. nbc news house confirmed the department of homeland security has issued an alert about a
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potential trucker protest, similar to the one now taking place in canada's capital. truck drivers and their supporters are into a 13th day of a blockade in ottawa. protesting mandatory vaccinations for truckers crossing the border. dhs says it's tracking reports of a potential convoy that may be planning to travel to several u.s. cities, as early as this weekend, potentially impacting sunday's super bowl. the bulletin describes the plan as aspirational. where states in this country are rolling back one of the most divisive covid regulations, today new york said it would remove most indoor mask mandates starting tomorrow. a doctor is going to take questions later in the hour. we are also keeping a close eye on the standoff along the russian ukraine border. the white house now preparing to help americans leave ukraine, should the kremlin launch an invasion. with that, let's bring in our lead off guests on this wednesday night, peter baker,
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chief white house correspondent for the new york times, frank folk lucy, a former fbi director for intelligence, he is the author of the book the fbi, way and host of the podcast the bureau, and former u.s. attorney joyce vance, who spent 25 years as a federal prosecutor, she hosts the podcast sisters in law. so much to get to. frank, i don't know, maybe it is incomprehensible that classified documents are just wet, randomly put into 15 boxes trump took with him? or maybe not randomly. we do not know. and that the national archives is actually finding out about this a year after he left office? how big a deal do you think this is? >> yes, it is important to put this into proper perspective. i see a lot of folks out there particularly on social media getting really excited about the possibility of criminal charges. let's get this proper context, here. first of all, if indeed it is true that there is classified information in some of those
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boxes, that is good news for prosecutors, and for the possibility of a criminal referral, and this referral to the doj actually taking some criminal shape. because previous to that, the presidential records management act simply didn't have teeth and it. it was not strictly enforceable. so the classified aspect of this raises the specter of a potential criminal charge, however we are hearing reports that there were longtime negotiations with the national archives, about getting this stuff back, may or may not have disclosed that there is classified stuff in there. it comes down to what is classified? does it look like there is a willful intent to hide within those boxes? the nature of the classified material, there is a lot of what is going on here, i think that we need to sit back and put this into perspective. on the hierarchy of possible crimes committed by the former president, this one is not way up there, let's be realistic about that. likelihood of prosecution, not sure about that. we need some more facts. i see this, chris, as a symptom, yet another symptom, of the
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former president who was in office, and had a flagrant disregard for the rule of law for regulations and protocols, and thought that he was above all of that. the records management act says this, the record you produces president belongs to the american people. they are not yours. they are ours. you have got to give them back. i just see this is more emblematic of a president who said i do not believe in the best interest of the american people, it is about me. >> you know, peter, you remember some other examples of people raising concerns about the way the president conducted business when he was talking about japanese prime minister at the time of a provocative north korean missile launch. it conversation with putin that have no u.s. translator, no records kept, but tell us a little bit more about your papers reporting? how do we get to this point, and remind us of how all of this is tied to the january six committee? >> right, that is a good point. because in fact, as frank said, the president has made clear,
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the former president made clear through four years in office, but he did not how much of a concern for the rules and regulations that govern other presidents. you said it a couple good examples there, another good ones come to mine, like the time he is talking with the russian foreign minister in the oval office, and it's built some classified information with the israeli surveillance program, apparently in jeopardy, time and time again, he posted once a classified map to iran on twitter, this is a constant thing for four years. we heard during those four years, officials telling us that they tried not to tell him, or provide him with classified information when they felt that they couldn't avoid doing it, because they did not think that he would probably guard it. remember, he was told by his own aides, that his phone had been top, or was vulnerable to tapping by the russians and chinese, and they shouldn't do, it and he kept doing it anyway. he has shown a great deal of disregard for these kinds of rules up until now, the fact
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that he has potentially classified information in these boxes, probably shouldn't come as a surprise. remember, my colleague, when she was at politico, had this idea of tearing up documents we back in 2018, it would follow behind him picking up the pieces of these documents, trying to take them together because they knew that they were supposed to keep them intact for the presidential records. frank is right, there is no teeth and that law, in adding a classified element to this changes the dynamic here. what is fascinating is that this is a president who got to office in part in 2016 by criticizing his opponent for being too careless with classified information that was in her email. of course, she was investigated by the fbi, hillary clinton, and not prosecuted. this is of course, i think, one more piece of a pattern that we have seen with president trump, former president trump. we will see if it leads anywhere. but it is very revealing, that once again, a year after office, we are dealing with the. >> joyce, it is not like donald trump had not said in the past
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that he has had some pretty strong opinions about classified documents, and how they should be handled, in particular as they related to hillary clinton. take a listen. >> some bad things came out today, you know. those classified. you know the word classified? >> she sent vast amounts of classified information. including information classified as top secret. top secret. okay? and this is where they said that she was extremely careless, and frankly, i say, grossly incompetent. >> we can't have someone in the oval office who does not understand the meaning of the word confidential, or classified. >> and maybe classified at the highest, highest level. how sad. >> so joyce, as frank pointed out so well, criminality is one thing. but what's trade -- what's tricky when it comes to
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accountability for something like this? if there is a reason, we will find out. i am sure we do not know now about classified documents, but there is a recent classified documents are classified. and there is a reason that they have to be declassified if anybody can get their hands on them. >> so that is absolutely right. there is so much here that we do not yet know that we do need to know. looming large here is this notion of how did they figure out that they have the documents at mar-a-lago? was it something that got inadvertently packed, and pretty early on, the reached back out to national archives and they have been negotiating back and forth over what had to be sent back? that is one set of facts. i guess on the other end of the spectrum, you can have some sort of an intentional effort to obstruct investigations by holding on to documents. if evidence were to emerge that supported that sort of a construction, then i think we would be in a very different sort of area. but absent that sort of obstruction of justice flavor
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to the context for this sort of situation, i think that it is very unlikely that we would see any sort of prosecution if we are looking for accountability from the former president, it will have to come in so many ways as it ultimately did in 2020 at the ballot box, with you know, the public. the voting public rejecting the sort of cavalier handling of the nation secrets. >> meantime, peter, the january six committee has now subpoenaed peter navarro, a loyalist, i think arguably, at a different level than most trump allies. describe the role he played, and just how big a step this is for the 16 committee? >> peter navarro had the odd title of being the assistant to the president for trade and manufacturing, and yet managed to get his hands and all kinds of different issues. he played outside of his lane, to say the least. he was active quite a lot in the covid response. he wrote some pretty early memos warning about how dangerous covid could be, and particularly advocating for action against china.
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and, here, in this book, he wrote after the election, it came out this year, last year i guess, he describes among other things his efforts to work with steve bannon and others to try to find a way to upend the 2020 election. this green bay sweep you talked about. again, he is not an election expert either, but in the book he describes his absolute conviction that the election had been in some ways stolen. there is no evidence of that whatsoever, of course, we have seen that very clearly in the last year. but he was trying, in fact, to get congress to decertify. find a way to certify these electors from these six states. these elections were certified in those six days. the electors were sent to congress. there were no legitimate contrary electors, there was no dispute that these estates had sent to the congress to resolve that peter navarro wanted them to reverse these state certifications anyway and some of the back to the states that they could find a way to keep president trump in office, even though the public voted against
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him in that election. >> and we heard it, joyce. navarro centrally laid out on tv the alleged plot to overturn the election. he explained it almost as if it was perfectly logical, acceptable, this was a smart thing that they were doing. i mean, saying it out loud, doesn't make any difference? what does it tell us about, and how does a level of planning that seems to have gone into this play into this investigation? >> i think peter's right to say that navarro was hardly an expert when it came to elections. the notion that he could have crafted, whatever you could call it, a green bay sweep, or a coup, really defies expectations. saying it out loud, has done something very important here, it has given the january six committee very precise guidance about what they are looking for. because between the book, and public statements made by navarro, they know that he for instance maintained that the former president had approved of the green bay sweep plan. and that becomes very important
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and the committees calculation. it gives them reason to inquire about those communications, and why did in the viral believe that the president approved of it. i suspect, chris, that we get pretty quickly with navarro into this kind of scenario where he is asserting the fifth amendment to try to avoid testifying, but of course as you and i have discussed many times before, there is a crime fraud exception to the ability to maintain those sorts of situations. and if he finds himself in a situation where he is asserting criminality, then ultimately that could have devastating consequences if doj decides to get involved. >> and another big supporter of donald trump, frank, jim jordan, here is what he had to say on fox today about the ongoing truck protest in ottawa. >> americans and canadians obviously, and people around the world, we have had it. they have had it. there are so sick of the double standard. so sick of the mandates. what we want as when god gave us, freedom.
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that is what this is all about. and god bless those truckers for standing firm. >> dhs is warning, frank, that similar things could happen here in the united states. could disrupt the super bowl. yet you have people like jordan, ted cruz, even donald trump talking like that. what is your take? >> boy, i would take the think that the united states has now become an exporter of this kind of fringe radicalized thought. not only exported to our neighbor, but having bounced back on us, and then we amplify it in certain sectors of our society, and turn it against ourselves. so here is what i mean. let's put this into proper perspective. 90% of canadians are vaccinated. the vast majority of canadian truckers are vaccinated. this is not a huge issue for canadians. they get it. but yet, like in our own country, they are seeing a small, small percentage of a
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subset of their society stock trade, block roads, the major bridge leading between windsor and detroit, trade route being blocked, and now here we are dhs warning talking about our super bowl, and why do we here every night on certain far-right news networks? the canadians got this right. we want freedom. you know, this is not about thought. it is about creating an environment that is anti government, anti-science, and trying really for scorched urge kind of environment here. >> frank, peter, joyce, great to have all of you tonight. thank you. coming up, the events surrounding the insurrection continues pulling apart this country's politics. eugene robinson, and matthew dowd join us next. and later, covid numbers keep going down, but confusion over pandemic precautions rising. we will try to clear it up with one of our leading doctors, the 11th hour just getting underway on a wednesday night.
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no limbo contest with themselves to see how low they can go. they seem to have not reached rock-bottom with their statement that what happened on january 6th was a normal political discourse. legitimate, legitimate political discourse. i say this to republicans all the time, take back your party from this cult. >> several prominent republicans, including mitch mcconnell, have made their objections to the rnc censure
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known, here is what we heard from senator ted cruz of texas, today, when he was asked about mcconnell. >> i think it is a mistake for republicans to repeat the political propaganda of democrats and the corporate media. >> back with us tonight, eugene robinson, pulitzer prize-winning columnist for the washington post, an msnbc political contributor matthew dowd. he is also a former george w. bush's strategist, and the founder of country over party. so, matthew, cruz is the latest one who seems to be wanting to re-frame the narrative, is going to be successful at it? >> no, and ted cruz, of course, is the captain of the hypocrisy team since ted cruz has described the events of january 6th in almost the exact same language of being an insurrection, he's described it before and has now the new latest seven point oh version of ted cruz has now decided that that's not an important
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thing to do. i actually think, and i said this at the time, this whole legitimate political discourse statement of the rnc -- was a self inflicted wound, i think it's gonna hang with him for a while, in the course of this. i think mitch mcconnell understands this that is a big mistake, and that's why he did what he did. so, it will stick with them, because it's one of those kind of things in politics, that's very easy to understand, very quick to understand, why would one party describe a violent insurrection in that manner, so in typical ted cruz fashion he doesn't stand on any principle, he just does whatever he wants, trying to score some political point in the moment. >> on the other side, eugene, what do you think that these republicans who are condemning the rnc censure, is it even possible, as pelosi says, to take the party back? >> it doesn't appear to be possible, right now, the party as it is is a cult of trump.
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and when i fear, and what i believe, is that in till the cult of trump is defeated. until that idea of that vile idea is defeated at the polls, at least once more, says trump got defeated in 2020, until it's rejected by enough republicans in the base, that's where the politicians are going to be. and whether we think ted cruz is gonna be, mitch mcconnell is right, and matthew is right, this was a terrible faux pas. yet, it's not enough to allow rational republicans, yet, to take back their party. >> i don't know if we'll hear anybody being concerned, on the republican side, matthew, about this new reporting from the new york times and the national
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archives discovered what it believes was classified information in the 15 boxes of documents that trump took with him from the white house. are we passed the point of asking, when voters are going to reach a point when they say, this is a normal? and maybe, could be a threat to national security? >> you know what, chris, and eugene, i was thinking about this tonight when i was listening to the national anthem being played for one of the olympic -- chloe is cam's olympic gold medal that she won. it struck me, that we're in a moment where we were all standing and listening to the national anthem, when millions, hundreds of thousands of people have died to preserve our constitutional democracy that we have talked about trying to spread around the world, and we're leaning in here about what's happening in canada, and trying to repeat the bad mistakes that republicans
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trying to adhesion to make in the course of this. so, now we have, but i view it as a criminal act, but we have seen, and nasa see pelosi's right, is what's the low? what is the low? if they're unwilling, if they're unwilling to cease criticize, and investigate a insurrection of the capital, i think tearing up classified documents, or taking documents by the former president, is not something that is going to move 75% of the political party. but it strikes me, in the midst of these u.s. olympics, while we listen to the national anthem, that we have a political party that could care less about constitutional democracy. >> and, the politics of this, eugene, remains interesting. i don't think anybody believes that the party is going to suddenly changes stripes, having said that, there is an election coming up. there's a lot of folks in the middle, who helped to get biden elected because of these kinds
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of issues. democrats are already planning to campaign on the center, axios reporting, and i'm gonna quote from, democratic campaign committees and tax tell axios that the phrase, legitimate political discourse, and its broader implications, will be a major theme of their messaging. is that the right approach? i feel like i've been asking this question throughout the trump era, or is all that already baked in? >> no, actually, i don't think it's all baked in. i don't think that the story of the midterms is already pre written, as a lot of people seem to think it is. simply because, the republican party has lost its mind, it is not acting rationally. and so, it could behave in a certain reasonable manner, and expect to win the midterms, but i don't know if this party can help itself. legitimate political discourse
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is an unforced error, and i don't know if this party can get out of its own way. it might make things bad enough for now -- make things bad enough for themselves, that they take wet, historically, ought to be a victory for them, and transform it into something else. republicans can be the democrats best friends, in terms of the midterms. >> that's exactly what has mitch mcconnell nervous right now, eugene matthew have agreed to stay with us, coming up, why one high-profile democrat for governor, was stunned over frustrations from voters over covid restrictions. when the 11th hour continues. covid restrictions covid restrictions when the in fact, subaru has won most trusted brand for more consecutive years than any other brand.
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are rolling back mask mandates, as covid numbers continue to fall. the new york times describes the move as loosely coordinated. quote, governor phil murphy began the effort last fall, weeks after he was stunned by the energy of right wing voters in his blue state. the times goes on to report that, in focus groups, quote, across the board, voters shared frustrations over public health measures, a sense of pessimism about the future, and a deep desire to return to some sense of normalcy. still with us, eugene robinson and, matthew dowd so, here is
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what governor murphy told the washington post about covid rejections. quote, there is no question about last year's elections, whether it's getting a sense of the pulse of the state, people are frustrated. their fatigues. there's a learning loss in our kids, mental health and stress among kids and adults, folks are yearning for some sense of normalcy, and count me, by the way, among them. eugene, do you think some democratic leaders are underestimating the frustrations of voters to get back to normal, what's happening here? >> well, maybe they did, but there are a few things happening, right? people are frustrated, i'm frustrated, nobody likes covid restrictions, nobody enjoys any of this. but, there is a pandemic going on. the republican line now is, the science didn't change, the polls changed, and that's why democrats are moving. in fact, the science has
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changed. the virus itself has changed. and it's gone through phases, and it's you'll to different responses a different times. i do think we're now at the point, i hope we're at the point, where we can relax some of the restrictions. and start getting back to some semblance of normalcy, and learning to live with this virus, but that is going to take some time. it's not like flipping a switch. so, whether they underestimated public sentiment or not,, you have to do what you think is best for the people in your state, and for public health, and i think that's what's most governors, most governors, democrat and republican, though not a few republicans have done it. most of them, i think, i've tried to do their best. >> you can see on the chart, matthew, california and -- among the blue state solution in the rules, how big do you think covered restrictions are gonna be in the meantime campaigns. are you going to see a large
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novel of republicans making this an issue? think about what's happening in the midterms, is always fraught. but maybe if things are better, if the fall feels somewhat normal, with that be a losing strategy? >> i'd rather tell you who's gonna win the super bowl then predicts what is going to happen in that regard. i think we are in a unique territory, and i think most people understand this. the republican base has elements of it that we'll talk about this in the fall, but i think it's totally contingent on where we are in this. but the governor of new jersey is right. people are frustrated, people are tired, people are exhausted. we have been through two years, but none of us on the show have ever experience in this life, not only the physical toll it's taken, but the emotional toll it has taken on the country for two years. we have lost more people in this country then every war
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since the civil war combined, and iran might number the conversation we were all having a year in a half ago about oh my gosh, we just lost the people that were lost in iraq in afghanistan, oh my gosh we just passed the number of people we lost in the korean war, oh my gosh we just passed a number of people lost in the vietnam war, i think the problem for the democrats, here, is this whole thing they've done over the last 6 to 8 months, if we just get x will get back to normal. i don't think there is ever getting back to normal. i don't think that is a good message, i think republicans need to be told, here is the deal, we are going to loosen these things. we're now in a position where we can do that, here's what we recommend. but oh, by the way, when we're doing that, we are going to give you a series of metrics to let you know how we are going to live with this if things are just. instead of just saying, we are going to loosen them, and then two months from now something else happens and oh, surprise, we've got the situation that we have. i think the leaders need to
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sort of advance it in front of the republic, and say, here's what we're doing, this is why we're doing it, and if things change, this is why we're likely to do this. i think virtually justified, in the midst of this, i think a lot of them are pushing into winter, you can talk to doctors. we are at a point where the pandemic has almost become endemic. and when you've got something that's endemic, it's no longer, you can no longer put certain protocols in place because it has now become part of the psyche. i think it, if we constantly tell the public, if you do x, we'll get back to normal. there is no normal. there is no going back. i think that's what leaders need to tell the public. >> well, that's not the message that i necessarily think that they want to start their campaign speech with, but i completely understand what you're saying, and surprisingly, shockingly, we do have a doctor, we're gonna ask those questions, matthew dowd, eugene robinson, great to talk to you guys tonight.
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the decline in hospitalizations, that is why we feel comfortable to lift this, in effect, tomorrow. >> we are seeing a trajectory of those hospitalizations, who have come from 7300, more than that, down to under 2500, just in the last four weeks. >> back with us, doctor celine gounder, -- professor of medicine and infectious diseases at the nyu school of medicine, and bellevue hospital, she is part of the panel that advised the biden transition team on covid-19. she also hosts a weekly podcast on the pandemic, called epidemic, so doctor who should americans be listening to, the cdc, or local officials. all the various sources, we had so much misinformation, politicize asian out there, so many people are confused, and now they're hearing two different things. what do they do? >> chris, i think it's important for people to understand, that the role of the cdc is to provide guidance, to provide advice for the entire country, not for the
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specific city or town where you may live. so that means that the cdc is going to be somewhat more conservative. they are going to be giving advice based on how things are across the country, including some of the work places that are still worst hit, the highest case rates, the highest, hospitalizations the lowest vaccinations. and i think there may be some differences, if you have a pin to live in a highly vaccinated city, or where cases of vaccinations are low, so cases like san francisco. >> but for example, for california, where they've loosened a lot of restrictions. it's a huge state, it's different in different parts of the state. >> and that's an excellent point, one that i have made myself. it is a huge state that san francisco is not sacramento. and there are rural parts of california that are gonna be very different from either of those. so, there are going to be
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differences in terms of wet local officials, local public health officials may recommend based on the local epidemiology. in contrast to what the cdc will recommend for the entire country. >> speaking of the cdc, they are already preparing to roll out millions of vaccine doses for kids under the age of five. this is from cnbc. quote, state and local health officials could start ordering the first doses monday, and will start receiving vaccine shipments on presidents'day, according to the cdc. then the fda, as you know, meets next tuesday to consider doses for kids on an emergency basis. but with covid cases going down, governors lifting restrictions. what can the cdc what can doctors do to can vince nervous parents to get their four-year-old vaccinated, when many aren't even getting their 11-year-olds vaccinated? >> i think eventually, what will make a real difference in childhood vaccination rates, is going to be school requirements, as has been the case with all other childhood vaccines. but, i think we're a little
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ways off from seeing those kinds of requirements, at least widespread throughout the country. i think that will require, not just an emergency use authorization, but a full approval, and were months away from that. some of the other things i think will make a difference is, i think a lot of parents will be hesitant to be the early adopters, they will want to wait and see how it goes for other children in their community, make sure that it pans out well for them. and, i think the other factor that would facilitate getting more kids vaccinated, is making it as easy as possible for parent to get their child vaccinated, so they don't have to take time off work, and there are no additional cost or burdens on them. i think that would make vaccination rates really go up as well. >> and a very practical question, given that there are so many places that are lifting mask mandates. what should someone who are immunocompromised and higher risk settings be doing to protect themselves? how well does mask work, for example, if you're the only
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person wearing it in a crowded place, in a grocery store? >> if you are wearing, a cam 95 mask, those are a highly productive, remember that health care workers were working in hospitals full of covid patients, day in day out, wearing those n95 masks for almost a year, and many of us remained an infected if we wore those masks consistently and correctly. they really do work. so that is always an option for someone who's concerned, whether they are immunocompromised or not. >> doctor celine gounder, some folks might wonder why we didn't show her picture froze but we console her here her. thank you doctor, for being with us tonight, coming up, just days ahead of the biggest game of the year, pro football commissioner is on the defense. that story, when the 11th hour continues. story continues. biktarvy is a complete, one-pill, once-a-day treatment used for h-i-v in certain adults.
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and sexual violence, expired in 2018 and congress has yet to renew it. at a press conference today, senator dick durbin explained how the two sides came together to make this deal. >> our bill is a compromise, it doesn't include everything that senator feinstein and i wanted, or everything -- wanted's, there are provisions that all four of us very much wanted to include, like an end to a loophole that allows abusers who harmed their partners to continue to have access to guns. but we agreed, that we had to introduce a bill, that would both -- need, and achieve the necessary bipartisan support and passed the senate. >> other senators also gave remarks, and so much did angelina jolie, who has been active on capitol hill aga vacating for the renewal of the act. >> so folks, i'm a survivor. i know first half wet happens
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when someone you trust abuses you. >> every victim needs to know that there can be a path to justice, that is what's some -- >> the reason many people started to leave abusive situations, is that they have been made to feel worthless. when there is silence from a congress, too busy to renew the violence against women act for a decade it reinforces that sense of worthlessness. passing this law is one of the most important votes u.s. senators will cast this year. most of all we, i want to acknowledge the children, who are terrified and suffering at this moment, and the many people for whom this legislation comes too late. >> sobering words from actress
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an activist angelina jolie to take us off the air tonight, but maybe also, some hope, bipartisanship may still be alive with the deal now made. that is our broadcast for this wednesday night, with our thanks for being with us, on behalf of all my colleagues at the networks of nbc news, goodnight. colleagues at the networks of we have got a lot of show to get to tonight. today, the january six investigation issued subpoenas for another senior trump white house official. trump treated visor, peter navarro. mr. navarro has not been shy about talking about his efforts to overturn the 2020 election. he has actually written an entire book about it. he has given numerous interviews, including more than a one with my colleague ari melber right here on this network. ari's face says it all in this interview. in all of these forums, he has been downright proud of the plan that he says he was pushing to overturn the election results. but tonight, mr.
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