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tell your doctor if you have an infection or symptoms such as fever, sweats, chills, muscle aches, or coughs or if you plan to or recently received a vaccine. ♪nothing is everything♪ talk to your dermatologist about skyrizi. learn how abbvie could help you save. good morning. it's 10:00 a.m. eastern, 7:00 a.m. pacific. i'm jose diaz-balart. russia and belarus are conducting joint military drills with tens of thousands of troops. senator ben cardin who sets on the foreign relations committee will join me to discuss. later today, president biden and senate democrats on the judiciary committee will meet to talk about his highly anticipated supreme court nomination, and breaking this morning, brand new numbers show inflation is up 7.5% over the past year, even more than
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expected. later this hour, we'll get an update on the massive gridlock on the ambassador bridge by canadian truckers protesting vaccine mandates as the department of homeland security warns another convoy could soon be headed to the u.s. we begin with the latest on the the escalating tensions between russia and the ukraine. russia has launched ten days of military exercises. 30,000 combat troops are take part in drills. nato has described the biggest deployment to belarus since world war ii. russia says the troops will leave belarus after the exercises end. many in the west believe president putin could use belarus as a launching point as part of a full-scale invasion of ukraine. diplomats from ukraine, russia,
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france and germany are meeting in berlin to discuss ukraine's future. a conflict that has a deep and lasting impact on the region. sky news correspondent stewart ramsey asked a 10-year-old girl living in a village in eastern ukraine what she would tell a 10-year-old girl in britain about her life right now. >> what an incredibly difficult to reality. with me to talk about this, nbc
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news chief foreign correspondent richard engel, peter baker, co-author of "kremlin rising: vladimir putin's russia and the end of revolution." richard haass, president of the council on foreign relations and author of "the world, a brief introduction." with us from kyiv the political editor for the kyiv independent, an english media outlet. richard engel, what message is putin trying to send with these drills in belarus? >> reporter: well, if you're here in ukraine, the message is quite clear, that russia has not given up on ukraine, that it wants ukraine to obey putin's will and feels increasingly surrounded. it is not just the 30,000 troops in belarus carrying out phase two of their military exercises which began today. this is a much more active phase. they have also set up positions near highway routes that could take russian troops very quickly
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to kyiv. kyiv is very close to the belarusian border. it feels this phase two of the exercise could be a potential rehearsal for a military invasion of kyiv. it's not just to the north. there's been a consistent buildup of russian forces along eastern ukraine, and just overnight russian naval vessels arrived in the black sea for naval drills that are going to take place in southern ukraine over the next several days. if you're looking from the inside out, you see russian forces encircling this country as diplomacy does not seem to be getting very far. today diplomatic efforts have been on going in both moscow and in berlin. so far the talks in moscow, according to the russian foreign minister, have not been successful with the russian foreign minister, says it feels
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like you're negotiating with a deaf person, that she listens but does not hear. that's his phrase. >> richard, when we were looking at the map when we were speaking with you, if you're ukraine, this is a complete surrounding of the border. if this is a buff, richard engel, this is a pretty massive bluff. >> reporter: and an expensive bluff and a bluff that is not over. more and more forces are still coming here. just today, the exercises in belarus moving into phase two and the warships which have marines on board. also some of the naval missiles are believed to have cruise missiles on board as well. the ukraine officials and maritime experts have said that the naval drills will actually cut off this country's access to
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the sea of as sof and the black sea. today peskov denied that saying ships will be allowed to go through. yes, it feels like the noose is tightening and it does not feel very much like a bluff. so much so that british prime minister boris johnson says the next several days could be the most dangerous of this crisis. >> alec see, what does ukraine make of these drills. kyiv is only 75 miles from the border of belarus? >> we know that president zelensky is trying to calm people down. the main message from ukraine authorities is to make sure there's no panic in ukraine, but honestly t ukrainian leadership is worried. we have troops surrounding ukraine. we have over 140,000 russian troops in russia, belarus, occupied donbas and crimea.
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for ukraine, this is a pivotal moment and we know the ukrainian leadership is continuing its negotiations with western partners. we know a lot of western diplomats, head of states are in kyiv to try to show support, and basically show russia that it's not going to be an easy task. >> al alexi, i'm wondering how you feel. >> i think ukrainians are more calm than foreign observers. for the past eight years we're living through this war. we know russia invaded in march 2014. we know russia had a similar buildup in april 2021. so for many ukrainians and for me as well, this is something we already saw, and we're kind of used to russia threatening and extorting basically ukraine and
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the west. >> peter, president biden talked to french president macron yesterday to try to find a diplomatic solution to the crisis. does the white house believe macron's efforts could bear any fruit? >> in a word, no. i think they view macron as a useful interlock tur in some ways, somebody who can draw out putin. nobody thinks in washington any way that emmanuel macron is going to solve this crisis. you do not want the russians to be able to exploit a wedge within nato, to drive us apart, the united states apart from the european allies. that's probably the most important reality for president biden when it comes to coordinating with president macron at this point. >> richard haass, one idea being floated as a solution is the so-called finlandization of
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ukraine, which would be modeled after a deal in 1948 in which finland avoided a soviet invasion by promising to stay neutral, but the soviet union had a lot of say over finland until 1991. "the new york times" has a piece today looking at how the fins wouldn't wish this on ukraine or anyone else. is this a serious solution? would it be giving in to vladimir putin? >> it's not a serious solution. it would be unacceptable to ukraine, unacceptable to nato. if ukraine wants to apply for nato membership, it can. nato has to consider it. the united states is not going to acknowledge some kind of a russian sphere of influence. to put it bluntly, it's a non-starter. >> i'm just wondering, richard, when you say that 130, 140,000 troops virtually surrounding that country, richard, what can you do when you have someone,
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leader of russia, who is clearly playing on his own timetable with his own rules? is there any diplomatic way of dealing with them? >> i'm not optimistic. there's two tracks here, jose, one is the so-called normanly process to deal with. eastern ukraine at the moment i don't think is a formula that would be acceptable to both kyiv and moscow. the other is to deal with security and nato. i don't see a formula that would work. let me give you another scenario, in addition to all the other possible military interventions or quote, unquote, diplomatic solution, this goes on for quite a while. we're all waiting for something decisive to happen. maybe not 140,000 but 50,000 troops park themselves on the border. they see what they can do to weaken ukraine's economy, maybe oust its government. we're all sitting here as though
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the conclusion, the culmination is imminent. another possibility, this could be something that simmers for the long term. >> richard haass, olesky, richard engel, peter baker, thank you for being with us. we'll have a conversation with senator ben cardin coming up on the hour. we'll be right back. a destination this one time, but usually -- no, i-i usually have a destination. yeah, but most of the time, her destination is freedom. nope, just the coffee shop. announcer: no matter why you ride, progressive has you covered with protection starting at $79 a year. voiceover: 'cause she's a biker... please don't follow me in. ♪3, 4♪ ♪ voiceover: 'cause she's a biker... ♪hey♪ ♪
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15 past the hour. the house oversight committee has launched an investigation into former president trump after the national records from his florida estate. and new reporting this morning from "new york times" journalist maggie haberman and the detail from her forthcoming book shared with axios, haberman reports white house staff found wads of
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printed paper clogging a toilet. in a statement this morning, trump denied these allegations. peter navarro is now the latest white house official to be subpoenaed by the committee. nava row publicly described how he and other republican officials attempted to change the election results. >> we had over 100 congressmen and senators on capitol hill ready to implement the sweep. we were going to challenge the results of the election in the six battleground states. most or all of those states would decertify the election. that would throw the election to the house of representatives. >> do you realize you are describing a coup? >> no. >> joining me now, congressional correspondent for "the washington post." sam stein, white house senator for politico and msnbc
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contributor. what more can you tell us about what they'll be looking into? >> that's a good question. carolyn maloney sent a letter to the archives this morning requesting new information on what the archives have found so far with regards to the former president's practices of sledding documents along with the 15 boxes recovered from mar-a-lago. she wants to know whether or not the documents in the boxes are sensitive or classified material which could be a very serious violation of the law, a major breach of protocol beyond violating the presidential records act. she wants to know how many documents were shredded, how many were shreds to a point where they couldn't be put back together. it's the latest sign that the former president is going to be facing a lot of scrutiny with regards to his recordkeeping practices. >> sam, talk to us about the
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presidential records act. traditionally, what's supposed to happen to these documents? >> you're supposed to retain them. they're supposed to go to the archives. you're not supposed to keep them for personal use. what jackie is describing is a slightly different wrinkle here which is, was there classified material on those records, a whole nother set of laws that could be brought into play here. of course, the context here is that trump came to office in 2016, 2017 in large part by attacking hillary clinton over a sort of soft, flimsy understanding of how to handle classified information. the use of a private server was one of the -- if not the most prominent campaign issue in the election. there's a bit of irony and hypocrisy that trump out of office and in office was so nonchalant with the handling of these materials, if not trying to prevent them from being made
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public. so, as the people who are investigating stuff, whether it's the january 6th committee or in this case the house oversight committee, they're going to answer these questions and put them into this type of political context. >> jacqueline, turning to the latest from the january 6th committee, can you first lay out how important navarro may or may not be to the committee's investigation? >> i think navarro is just as important as a host of the other characters in trump's middle circle. people like mark meadows, people like john mcafee. navarro can shed light on what the other players don't have insight into is just how frequent and targeted and widespread the outreach was to those in the states and those in congress in order to implement what he called the green bay sweep, one of many plans that were sort of hatched to overturn the results of the election.
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we'll see if navarro cooperates with the committee. he's spoken with this extensively with ari melber as you just played, several times. he could be a real resource for just how they were trying these -- this outside legal effort was trying to work from the bottom up to get this done and to block the electoral certification. >> sam, the best resource would be if the committee -- to stay tuned to msnbc. nava navarro already said he would not cooperate with the committee. how might this set up some of the bigger names. navarro seems willing to talk about a lot of things in public, but yet is saying he's not going to be talking to the committee? >> navarro is an interesting character here. he likes to go out and, what he calls flood the zone which is sort of a steve bannon phrase, to essentially get their
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narrative out to confuse larger narratives. the idea he would be a cooperative witness is far fetched. it's probably not going to happen. the kind of million-dollar question here, the thing that looms over everything is what is the justice department going to do with a lack of -- with these recent revelations that trump either flushed records down the toilet, by the way, you shouldn't do. toilets are not meant for paper. and secondly, he did not comply with records keeping laws. if they come down hard, it could move an incentive to cooperate. if they drag their feet, it means the january 6th committee is going to have that much harder a task. >> thank you so much for being with me this morning. >> thank you. we're keeping an eye of breaking news in laguna beach california. a large brush fire causing an
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immediate threat to lives and property right now. the fire broke out overnight amid high temperatures and winds. officials say they expect it to spread quickly. part of the pacific coast highway is closed. take a look at that. that's a pretty long cloud of smoke. we'll bring you updates as we get them. up next, senator ben cardin joins us the day after the biden administration warns senators about iran's nuclear capability. one senator calling it, quote, sobering and shocking. we'll get senator cardin's take next. senator, good to see you. we'll be on in just a minute. we'll be on in just a minute you alright? [loud exhale] [ding] never settle with power e*trade. it has powerful, easy-to-use tools to help you find opportunities, 24/7 support when you need answers, plus some of the lowest options
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together. i don't think putin will be deterred by any piece of legislation in the united states senate. >> mcconnell went on to say the president has all the authority he needs to act and should do it before an invasion. with me senator ben cardin who sits on the foreign relations committee. senator, thank you for your time. what's your understanding of where things stand with the sanctions bill, senator? >> i'd good to be with you. no question we had strong bipartisan support and in congress and there's unity to make it clear to put tin if he does further incursions in ukraine, he will pay a heavy price for that. in the senate it's not always easy to get legislation passed. the president does have significant authority. we want to give him even more authority, to make it clear that russia will pay that heavy
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price. so i hope we can get it done. i can tell you that i've talked with a lot of my republican colleagues as well as my democratic colleagues, and i see a common commitment for legislation. i hope we can reach the finish line. >> this bill would likely include some sanctions that will take effect immediately. house foreign affairs chair gregory meeks said he doesn't support preemptive sanctions because he feels it would do little to stop putin. >> the clear objective is to do everything we can to avoid russia's further incursion into ukraine. we want to only do things that are going to help in that regard. recognize that russia has already violated certain commitments that would warrant additional sanctions being imposed. so there are areas where we could expand sanctions based upon russia's current behavior. but we want to make it clear
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that in those cases president biden and our allies would have the ability to leverage that. in other words, they could hold off imposing those in an effort to keep ukraine from being further invaded. so even if we were to do this, there would be ample authority with the administration to use that as leverage in their diplomacy. >> i want to turn to another foreign policy issue. iran. senators got a briefing from senior officials yesterday on iran's nuclear program. some of your colleagues, senator, said after the briefing they were concerned by what they heard. i know you can't talk about what was actually said. how did you feel coming out away from that briefing? >> well, it is a matter of urgent concern. there is no question that iran today is closer to a nuclear weapon since president trump made the decision to withdraw from the nuclear agreement. that's pretty much a universal view that it was a mistake for
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president trump to withdraw from the nuclear agreement when iran was in compliance with the terms. now, we may have had different views as to whether the original agreement was strong enough and contained all the issues we wanted it to, but it's clear that withdrawing, that we did not have eyes on the ground, didn't have inspections. iran openly violated the terms of the nuclear agreement and we're now in a worse position. >> again, no details necessary, but are you concerned that it's in a critical state right now? >> well, i think it's a trend line we don't want to see continued. i think it's important that we use diplomacy, that we work with our allies and that we try to get iran in a position where they're not -- where they could break out quickly to a nuclear weapon. that was the objective of the nuclear agreement. it's hard to put that back
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together exactly the way it was before. but that needs to be our objective. while we're doing that, we need to have iran's attention in regards to their other nefarious activities including the ballistic missile programs or human rights programs, their support of terrorism. those issues also need to be on the table. >> senator, real quickly on the domestic front, what are the most important things you're looking to accomplish this year? >> well, first, i want to give the biden administration the credit they deserve in the passage of the american rescue plan that really saved us during the pandemic, helped state and local governments, helped american families, provided the resources we needed to deal with covid-19. we went from the beginning of the biden administration where america was near the bottom of all the countries in the world in fighting the virus to now one of the great leaders. we did that. we also got the infrastructure bill passed which was incredibly important, a
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once-in-a-generation opportunity to rebuild america. we have the build back better agenda. we've got to get that done. affordable housing, child care, universal pre-k, climate change. but we also need to deal with the fundamental problems of preserving our democracy that came to light on january 6th, and that means passing the two critically important voting rights bills that were on the floor a couple weeks ago. >> senator ben cardin, always a pleasure to see you. i thank you for your time. >> thank you. at noon eastern, 9:00 pacific, u.s. deputy secretary of state wendy sherman joins andrea mitchell to talk about the ukraine crisis and more. later today president biden will be traveling to virginia where he'll be highlighting his administration's efforts to reduce health care and drug prices it will also be an early window in how they plan on running in the evidence no midterm elections. joining me from virginia, nbc
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correspondent josh lederman. what more can you tell us about the president's trip today? >> reporter: well, officially, jose, today's meeting and visit here by the president is focused on efforts by his administration to lower prescription drug costs. you might wonder why that of all things would be the focus for president biden today given it's not an issue where there's a whole lot of active work he's been doing in congress or otherwise. but it is an issue that is of utmost importance to congresswoman spanberger from this district and talking quite a bit about it as she has been campaigning in a very difficult re-election fight. she's one of the most vulnerable democrats heading into the midterms where the party is so concerned about potentially bruising losses and a shift of control to the republicans. so president biden, while this is not a campaign visit and he's here in an official capacity, the white house has said he's supportive of efforts to try to get democrats like spanberger
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and others re-elected in tough districts like these. this is also one where the effects of redistricting this cycle really come into play. congresswoman spanberger was actually redistricted out of her own district in terms of where her home is. she's running in the redrawn seventh district trying to shore up support there. one of the things i noticed here as we arrive for this event, you see over my shoulder they've got signage saying build back better, as the president tries to convey to voters what his administration has been able to do. that's a piece of legislation by all accounts on the hill, in its current form is dead. it's not going to look anything bet -- the administration using that as their moniker for what the president wants to do on the domestic front. i think it goes to show the difficult messaging challenge that democrats have heading into the midterms, they're trying to show what they've accomplished for people. at the same time, the politics
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of what they have not been able to accomplish very much on display. >> just having that conversation with senator cardin. later today the president is scheduled to meet with democratic members of the senate judiciary committee. what's he going to be talking about? >> reporter: he'll certainly be talking about his decision upcoming on who he's going to name to the supreme court. we don't expect to see president biden during that meeting with the judiciary members today. we know the president has been reaching out to senators of both parties who will be critical on this, the white house hoping the president's ultimate nominee can get some republican support. he's made it clear he plans to consult very closely with lawmakers as well as vice president harris as he's making his pick. we're reporting there's a whole host of candidates that the president is currently looking at. >> josh lederman, thank you for being with me this morning. i appreciate it. still ahead, we'll talk to a pediatrician and a scholar about why they say the child tax credit is essential for reducing poverty in our country.
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history has a policy change had such dramatic effects in such a short period of time. dr. richard veser, president and ceo of the robert wood foundation. dolores garcia from brandeis university. professor, how did the tax credit tackle some of these costs for families in a way that you say was more effective than other policies? >> well, the credit comes in the form of payment for families they can use to meet their most basic needs. so we have data shows very clearly that families have used about 90% of the funds towards -- it's a lifeline for families during this pandemic time. beyond that, i was a member of
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the national academy of sciences committee that produced the 2019 report, roadmap to reducing child poverty. we have shown in that report, very similar to the one implemented with the american rescue plan to the child tax credit would result in an annual basis in the reduction of child poverty of about 40%. so it's a very powerful program and it helps families in a very direct way because the benefits have come to them monthly. >> doctor, you say we see how our nation real gates those of certain races, wage levels and immigration backgrounds to second-hand status, the impact of poverty on children, fewer years of educational attainment, mental health effects can have lifelong repercussions. as a pediatrician, you're not only calling for an extension of the tax credit but also for it
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to be more equitable. tell us how. >> that's right. if you look at poverty in america, there's no racial or ethnic group that isn't impacted. disproportionately children of color, black, latino, indigenous children, have much higher rates of poverty. when you see a program like this, which is reducing poverty rates by 30%, and over the course of a year by 40%, when you see that pulled back, it's going to hit children across our nation, but it will have a disproportionate impact on children of color. i was in clinic on friday talking to a mom about the payments that she got through this program. she said for her it was the difference between sharing a bed with her daughter in a motel and having her apartment where her daughter has her own room. at that human, personal level, to see a program like this having such impact, seeing it
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expiring, we just can't let it happen. >> professor, let's discuss families with mixed immigration status. there are families who pay taxes, are they able to take advantage of these things? how do we know they can take advantage of these resources available to them? >> after 2018, children that did not have a social security number were eligible for the tax credit. in 2018 that changed and hurt over a million children. these children have some of the highest poverty rates we have in the country, a rate of about 30% compared to the average poverty rate which is about 13%. that was disappointing for me about expansion during the president administration, it didn't reins state the eligibility for these children. these are families that are working, families that are
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paying taxes, with a social security number. though they don't have a social security number for the time being, all the evidence points to the fact that they will be in the u.s. for a long time, if not personal permanently. mixed status families, many siblings are u.s. citizens. so there are those who are citizens that are being hurt by excluding kids with no social security numbers. >> these are kids throughout our country. we're talking about millions of people. dr. besser, i want to talk to you about the rollout of covid-19s by the end of the month. what are you thoughts on that? >> i think it's really important that we let the review process at the fda and cdc go forward. i spend a lot of time watching that. it will help me determine whether i -- if i approve these,
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whether i say to my patients, i recommend you go ahead and do this or it's available to you if you want. this vaccine for children under 5 is being discussed -- it's a little bit different from vaccines that have been discussed at fda before. it's different in that the company suspects it's going to require three doses for children to get a full protective level from the vaccine. but the fda has asked them to file, based on the first two doses alone. so i'll be looking to see -- i expect there will be a variety of opinions on the committee, whether they want to wait and see the data after three full doses or if they want to approve two doses so children can get a head start rather than waiting another month or two before the full data set is in. i don't know which way they're going to go. it's very important that there's no political pressure on this committee, on the fda, to approve -- until the committee has done their deliberations.
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50 past the hour. time now to check some of the headlines beyond our borders. mexico's president says authorities arrested three people for the murder of one of the four journalists killed there this year. the president vowed actions on all cases, despite attacking journalists during his daily press briefings. this comes after tim kaine and marco rubio asked for officials to protect journalists. and in mexico, six migrant churn rescued from the rio grande after trying to cross the
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border. the border >> the six children were treated for hypothermia at a local hospital. in canada, entry points have been slowed down by trucker protests against covid restrictions. it could be a glimpse of what's coming to the u.s. it could happen as early as super bowl sunday and eventually move to washington d.c., and the state of the country. cal, good morning. what -- who are these protesters? what do they want? >> well, they want the vaccination requirements to go away. what you have said about what could happen in the united states is incredibly frightening as i'm going to show you now the crossing between port huron, where i am here on the american side and sarnia on the canadian
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side. you talk about these truckers, we're talking about a dozen vehicles and a hundred people almost grinding the economy and trade between the u.s. and canada to a halt. 25% of the trade between the u.s. and canada goes between detroit and windsor and that bridge is completely shut down. we have already seen a knock-on effect in the auto history, chrysler, ford, gm and toyota either having to shut down assembly lines or curtail the amount they are working. jose, a dozen vehicles, a hundred people. you can see behind me now a three-to-five-hour wait, more than 60 miles on the u.s. side, 120 miles of extra driving on the canadian side, that's a lot of fuel. time is money. if you take all of the water that's supposed to go through a
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aleve it... and see what's possible. 57 past the hour. we're following a developing story out of beijing that has the potential to shake up the medal board. nbc reports a skater tested positive for a banned substance back in december. the international olympic committee delayed the award ceremony due to a legal issue and said they could not comment further. so far no official response from the russian olympic committee. joining me is gadi schwartz. what is the very latest? >> the latest is camilla is back
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on the ice. the russian government is dismissing the report of people screaming left and right saying they're awaiting word from the international olympic committee, which is extremely tight lipped. we have learned more about the drug reportedly detected in that sample that she took before the olympics in december, it's called trimatzmadine that treats heart conditions and it's banned from competition because it can increase endures. the question that remains is why a 15-year-old would need to take the medication. because she's 15 and a minor, it is possible that the ioc may be limited in the kind of information that they are going to be releasing in general. we'll see.
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>> thank you so much. that wraps up the hour for me. i'm jose diaz-balart. you can always reach me on twitter and instagram. thank you so much for the privilege of your time. yasmin vossoughian picks up with more news next. hi, everybody. good thursday morning. a lot going on, the inflation report showing just how high prices have gone. inflation up 7.5%. the last time inflation spiked that much, ronald reagan was entering his second year

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