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his loyalty. that does it for us. it's been quite an hour. thank you as always for spending time with us on "the beat." find me online on twitter, instagram, facebook, or now tiktok. and you can tell me what you thought of the interviews tonight or not. i turn now to my friend joy reid. "the reidout" starts now. >> when are they going to learn it's one-way love with trump. >> one way. >> thank you very much, my friend. have a great evening. good evening, everybody. we begin "the reidout" tonight with the remaining unknown unknowns about january 6th. namely what exactly are former president was doing as the attack unfolded. we learned today that white house records obtained by the january 6th committee do not include any phone calls during an hours long period following trump's speech calling on his maga mob to march on the capitol. the committee knows there were many calls that took place during that time. there are just no white house records, which there should be.
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the records that were handed over include only calls that would have come through the white house switchboard. and trump reportedly frequently used his cell phone instead, despite that being a security issue. but there's one call in particular that seems like it would have had to have been included in the white house records if they are complete. congressman mike lee said his cell phone rang, and the call was from the white house. it was the president who had meant to call tommy tubberville to request that he keep objects to the election results. lee passed the phone to tubberville who informed the president that pence had just been evacuated. assumingly, that call appears to be missing from the log. we also know that in a call where they were screaming at each other, kevin mccarthy, the house minority leader, told trump that he needed to call off
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the goons. trump's response reportedly was, well, i guess these people are more upset about the election than you are. but we don't know which phone trump used to do that. cnn reports that the committee has not requested trump's personal phone records, but the chair, bennie thompson, told them that that would be revisited. the committee doesn't know if they have received a full account of the records or if any have been altered. but this gap in calls is raising red flags, on top of the cornucopia of evidence of trump's disregard for the law. the house oversight committee announced they are investigating the 15 boxes of presidential records at that the national archives recovered from mar-a-lago. and "the washington post" reported that some of those documents are clearly marked as classified. including documents at the top secret level. the post notes that the top secret classification is applied
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to information where unauthorized disclosure could be expected to cause exceptionally grave damage to the national security. the national archives asked the doj to investigate that. we've also learned about some of the let's say more creative way that president trump used to dispose of his documents. tearing up some of them. but it reached a whole new level today. axios obtained an excerpt from "the new york times" maggie haberman's new book. she reports that staff in the white house residence discovered wads of printed paper clogging a toilet, and believe the president had tried to flush them. you cannot make this stuff. of course, president trump has called this untrue, but not nor nothing. he did have quite an obsession with the way that toilets flush. i mean, like for years.
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>> i won't use the example of toilets, because it's sort of gross, right? but let's use it any way. so no water comes out. so people are flushing it seven, eight, 10, 12 times. tend result is it's no good. ten times, right? ten times. not me, of course not me. dishwashers, sinks, toilets, lightbulbs. but sinks, toilets, and showers, you don't get any water. you turn on the faucet, you don't get any water. people are flushing toilets 10, 15 times as opposed to once. they end up uses more water. >> as so often happened in the trump years, criminal intent has joined to comically inept execution. joining me now, maya wiley, and former rnc chair michael steele. this is getting weirder and weirder. it is illegal to secret document
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from the white house. you're not supposed to flush them down the toilet of the residence. you're not supposed to eat them. but it seems that president trump did them all. put them in burn bags. it's almost like a comical mob movie. but as funny as it is, it makes you wonder if he's obsessed how they flushed because he's flushing things down the toilet. your thoughts? >> i don't know what to say about this one. i don't know what to say about this one. here's what i'll say -- look, number one, not only is this potentially a crime because of his obligation to send historically important material over to the archives, and that
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is what this says. 15 boxes, it becomes very difficult to believe it was not intentional when, if the reporting is true, that lawyers told him he had this obligation under the act, right? because one defense would be he didn't know. if he didn't know of his legal obligations, guilty of violating them. but he was told, and staffers, if they thought of it, and maggie haberman is said she heard that they believed him to be flushing them down the toilet. that is not sufficient evidence, i want to make that clear alone for a prosecution. but it means there are witnesses that may have sufficient evidence, certainly when you have boxes labeled "classified" it is very difficult to argue that you didn't know, you weren't supposed to take them home to mar-a-lago.
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>> i think we're having some trouble with your microphone, but i'm going to go to michael steele. but we're going to get that fixed. i am old enough to remember, michael, the whole hillary clinton about her email scandal started to be about at one point whether or not there was a "c" for classified on some of those documents that might have been on her private server. that became the subject of a criminal investigation. you have that piece of it. and then you have the really alarming idea that president trump may have been talking to people from the white house, using a cell phone. which i remember these stories that ran years ago in 2018, there were all these stories how insecure that is from a national security point of view. whatever you think of donald trump, at that point he was president of the united states. you didn't want china or russia to listen into his calls, whatever he was doing on the phone. so the idea that he was using the most insecure possible method of communication, he might have as well been
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whatsapping people. president obama had to surrender his blackberry when he became president. what do you make of that combination of facts? >> well, first, could you pass the salt? i just want to -- [ laughter ] yummy. yummy. just pass the salt please. excuse me. i'm stupid. >> i got nothing. i can't hear michael steele, but at this point, it's pantomime and i don't need sound. the demonstration i just saw, it doesn't need words. those are your thoughts. we're going to go back to maya wiley. >> we're not following michael out of that room, are we? i'm not going with michael wherever he's going next. >> i don't know. >> can you hear me, joy?
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>> i can't hear either one of you. go ahead, michael. >> to be serious for a moment, and i hope folks that hear this, the fact is, we have known and seen this pattern of behavior going back for quite some time. when they set up the twitter account and how that was used, the blackberry, the fact that the president kept a private phone that he would use to call world leaders. the fact that we know, as reported just today, that the president has admitted that he is still talking to kim jong-un in north korea. so, you know, the idea of security is not something trump has ever taken seriously, and regarded with the same level of concern that you and i and certainly our government would have. so it's not surprising. the other part of this i think
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that's even more telling, and you touched on this a little earlier, is that this information is now out there in the ether. and while we may not be able to get trump directly because of what he may or may not have been told, what he may or may not have been known, there are people in his orbit that do, and who were in the room. and who did advise the president at one point or another as to what was appropriate protocol and not. as for hillary clinton and her emails, i don't want to hear another word, not a damn word from anybody talking about hillary clinton and national security and her server. >> ever. ever. >> because after this person is sitting up there eating documents, please. >> i mean, it does feel, maya, just to come back to you, it does feel like the way that you would deal with like a drugs prosecution, somebody flushing
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drugs down the toilet or a mafia sort of situation where they're eating documents to make sure they never show up in prosecutor's hands. it's so blatant. i find it hard to believe that president trump would be able to argue he didn't know. it's hard to grow up and be a full adult in yourselves and not understand like the basics of protocol. i can't imagine that he was never told that everything you right down, every tweet, all of it, are public communications from the president of the united states. you're not just some guy, you're the president. like, he had to have been told that. is it a defense to say that a 72-year-old man didn't know that he wasn't allowed to consume classified documents or flush them down the toilet? >> well, i think you're making the right point here in your question, joy. because this is where i was going to go next. we're talking a lot about this as a violation of the recording
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act. michael very, very rightly raises the issue of national security and the failure to protect it. but this is also potentially obstruction of justice. you know, shredding documents, destroying them, secreting them like walking off with them and hiding them at home. those are facts that can prove potentially obstruction of justice. and obstruction of congress. donald trump is going through two different impeachment processes over the course of his first and only term in office. so it could be a crime potentially under, you know, congress' act to try to demonstrate whether or not he should be impeached. you know, these are very substantial allegations, and more than one particular crime. because if, in fact, there are witnesses that can say yes, he did eat documents, or yes, we did tell him about the act and
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he took them any way. the fact that they were classified, that the boxes were marked classified, very difficult then to assert that you didn't know you weren't supposed to take them. so the question is, actually, i don't think it's a question. i don't think the committee has a choice but to subpoena not only his phone records, but also to subpoena donald trump himself. i think they have to do the same thing with the former vice president, pence, because, again, some of those communications may have involved him. he's already come forward and said that, you know, what the president said was not true, that he didn't have the power to do what the power was asking. what else do we need to make sure we know in terms of who was communicating and how it was communicated. it's just time. >> and mark meadows. you know, michael can tell you very well, your chief of staff knows everything. your chief of staff tells you
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and informs you of everything. if he was using private phones and flushing stuff, mark meadows needing the answer some questions. maya wiley, michael steele, i hope that paper was delicious. >> it needed some salt, but it was good. up next on "the reidout," the worst inflation in 40 years. how much of it is legit? and how much of it is just good old fashioned price gouging? you don't want to miss that conversation. also, inside the mind of vladamir putin. the headlines are scary, but how serious is the threat of war. plus -- >> it's time to burn what remains of the confederacy down. i do believe the south will rise again, but this time it will be on our terms. >> everybody is talking about his ads, but there are a lot of other reasons to be paying attention to gary chambers. and we pop the bubble about the
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when can americans expect some relief from this soaring inflation? >> 14 nobel laureates contacted me and corporate leaders, it start to taper off as we go through this year. >> that was joe biden in an interview with nbc's lester holt tonight, arguing inflation is not here to stay. okay. so let's talk a little economics 101, shall we? don't wey, it will be fine. let's just say you have a global pandemic and you and everyone else in the world is basically stuck at home, and the workforce that can't stay home is hit hard by sickness and worse. so you have fewer people on the production lines to make things and ship things and work the sales clerk station and the amazon warehouses, et cetera.
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the government responds to that by sending out money so people you can survive. now you have all this money out there. a year later things open up and that money is burning a hole in folk's pockets. you're buying that couch, that home, that car. but it's taking longer to get that couch. people want their stuff, but it can't be made fast enough. what happens to prices? they go up. inflation is at a 40-year high, and american consumers are turbo charging the economy. but here's the dirty little secret that companies do not want you to know. some of them are taking advantage of the situation and charging you way more, just because they can. if you watch our sister network, cnbc, you hear a lot of ceos
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crowing about their ability to raise prices. >> we're still chasing demand, so we haven't seen a lot of resistance to the price increases. given the inflationary trends we're seeing, we will likely have to take more pricing increases in the year ahead. >> you look at our performance last year, you saw a strong performance, and that was accentuated in the fourth quarter. >> even though we have taken some pricing to date, our chicken burrito is still less than $8. so we have more room to take price as we need to. >> think about that for a moment. these companies are charging you way more. and the ceos and their fellow suits are blaming inflation. why? because the people these ceos work for, not the customers, not their workers, the shareholders.
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they love it. and they reward them for it. take mr. burg from levi's who makes $10 million a year, or the ceo of chipotle, who takes ohm $38 million. what better way to please your shareholders than jacking up profit margins? here's the thing, they're going to keep doing it, because this is like a game of press your luck, where prices will keep going higher and higher and higher until the consumer says enough. with me is lindsey owens. thank you for being here. this is an example of, somebody sends me something on social media and i see something i'm like, oh, my god, we have to get this person on the show. that is what happened, when i saw your tweet thread in which you demystified something i've been wanting to talk about for quite a while, this inflation
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idea. let's put up some numbers. here's the consumer price index before and after the pandemic. it was 2.5% going from 2019 to 2020, the sort of average price of things. it bumped way up to 7.5%, a 40-year high. you write that -- >> lots of folks don't go on those calls. you went on them. what did you hear? >> that's right, joy. the inflation numbers today were not great. they're up 7.5% over the year. it's making it harder for families to afford the cost of food, put groceries in their carts and put gas in their cars. and there are a lot of different reasons for that. but one of them we're not hearing enough about is just
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this bald faced profiteering. my organization at the ground work collaborative, we combed through hundreds of earnings caltrans crypts, hundreds from quarter four. what we saw over and over again is that ceo after ceo is coming out and really just crowing about their pricing action, how great pricing is going for them, how proud they are of their teams for their brilliant fising action, and what that means for these companies is record breaking profits. not just increased profit, increased profit margins, right? what they're telling their shareholders is that's good news for us, good news for you. we're going to do buybacks. and by the way, expect more. because we're seeing how far we can push this, and so far, there hasn't been any blowback for a whole host of reasons, because there's some demand, and in some
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cases these companies don't have any competition. there's really no competition to keep these prices in check. expect this again next quarter, and we're really just getting started here. >> it's like whatever the market will bear, right? one of the things you talk about is 3m. they make n-95 masks. so they tick the price up, and the market will bear us charging more. amazon makes prime cost more. you love netflix? make that cost more. the profit margin, talk to us about that, break that down for me for people in regular english, and secondly, isn't it true the ceos, the reason they get away with it is because they are compensated in part by
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stock. so when they juice the stock, they make more money. >> yeah. so these ceos are really responding to investors who are really demanding these types of price increases. ceos who follow through with those price increases and bring those larger profits home are being rewarded by shareholders. ceos, by the way, who don't, have been penalized. we saw late last year some savage selloffs for companies who said -- johnson & johnson is another one. on their earnings call, the ceo talked about an increased need for medical care and the suffering, and he said it presented an opportunity and made them very optimistic about the future. so we're seeing this, you know, in the pharmaceutical industry and the health care sector during a global health pandemic, but we're seeing it across the
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board with necessities. there are two companies that make diapers. there is not a lot of choices. >> >> still ahead, joe biden issues a warning to americans in ukraine. that is coming up next. america ukraine. ukraine. that is coming up nextent whist.
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thumping over ukraine. military exercises are underway in belarus and at sea. that is expected to involve tens of thousands of troops. with all the major world powers keeping an eye on ukraine. so what is putin's end game? putin's actions are described as a soviet style attack on democracy he hopes goes beyond the boarders of ukraine. he wants to put so much strain on western and democratic institutions, especially the european union and nato, that they break up. he wants to keep dictators in power wherever he can in syria, venezuela and iran. he wants to undermine america and shrink american influence to remove the power of the democracy rhetoric so many people in his part of the world still associate with america. he wants america itself to fail. she believes putin will also fail, but he can do a lot of damage.
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joining me now is ann applebaum. and malcolm nance, intelligence an less and author of "they want to kill americans." thank you both for being here. ann, i want to start with you on this. your piece is fascinating. i -- oh, we don't have ann yet. let me go to malcolm first. let me play joe biden tonight, and he was asked whether or not he would send u.s. troops to ukraine. take a look. >> what scenarios would you put american troops to rescue and get americans out? >> there's not. that's a world war. when americans and russians start shooting at each other, we're in a very different world. >> not even on behalf of evacuating americans? >> no. how do you even find them? i'm hoping that he goes in, he's smart enough not to do anything that would negatively impact on american citizens.
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>> have you told him that? >> yes. >> you've told him to -- that americans will be a line that they can't cross? >> i didn't have to tell him that. i have spoken about that, he knows that. >> malcolm, you are in ukraine at this moment. first of all, there is this sort of now call for everyone to get out of ukraine, so let us know if and when you're planning on doing that. but what do you make of this sort of standoff between putin and the west? because on the one hand, it could in theory be a kim jong-un, he's trying to get attention, okay, he's gotten attention, he stands down, what is your read from there on the ground? >> well, you know, i think ann applebaum's piece spells out. vladamir putin has voels where he doesn't feel ukraine should be an independent nation, that
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it should be part of russia itself. the way it feels here on the ground that this is a kim jong-un move. he's putting enough resources on the ground that has some depth to it. but not enough depth to take this entire country. let's stipulate a few things most americans don't understand. this nation is huge! it's the size of germany, austria, and switzerland laid sideways. it takes 12 to 15 hours to drive from west to east. the capital, kyiv, is 3 1/2 million people, it's bigger than chicago. and it's huge. and they are fiercely independent. one other factor that's missing here, joy, ukraine has an army. i met with the commander of ukrainian army the other way when we were at the battle front, and they are committed to fighting russia, and they're getting new weapons every day from the united states and nato. but if russia thinks they're
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just going to walk in here and jump into this city with airborne forces or commandos, they're talking essentially a war that will go for years and turn into an insurgency. they'll never hold it. >> and ann, we have you on the phone now. let's talk about that. because it seems sort of -- almost like nationally suicidal for vladamir putin to think that he can pull off with ukraine what the old ussr couldn't do in afghanistan. it doesn't seem logical. but you write in your piece, you know, this idea that you have this cleptocrat in vladamir putin. if ukraine became what it wants to be, a normal, modern, prosperous european nation, it would put the lie that he's running at home, it could expos him for the crook that he really is. so what is the sort of likelihood that he takes the
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risk of basically creating this morass for the russian economy by invading ukraine? >> first of all, you're absolutely right. this is much more idealogical than most people seem to understand. putin and the people around him have been putting forward these arguments about nato and they have been trying to pull in the united states. this is really about putin feeling personally challenged by the democracy activism in ukraine, by ukraine's attempt to become independent, by his attempt to become a democracy integrated with the rest of europe. he knows, as you say and as i wrote, if they're successful, that's a huge challenge to him. that means that his autocracy can be challenged by russians who might want the same thing. and therefore, that makes all the diplomacy around this a little bit strange. you know, he's clearly testing
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the waters and trying to see how much support ukraine will get. but really, what we say isn't going to have, in terms of what kind of negotiations we do, won't have that much impact on whether he invades. what will matter is how much support, military support he thinks ukraine will get and how harsh he thinks the sanctions will be. in other words, this is something that he wants to do. he's wanted to do it for a long time. he's been talking about it for more than a decade. he judged that this was a good moment because of disarray inside the united states, because of covid, because of the withdrawal from afghanistan. but if he can be shown that the price is going to be much higher than he thinks, that there will be a military pushback, that the ukrainian army is getting arms from outside, it's one of those strange moments which arming ukraine and helping ukraine defend itself, might be the best path to peace.
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in other words, if we want peace in the region, then we might need to create some kind of deterrence in ukraine. so it sounds paradoxparadoxical that's the answer. >> malcolm, is that the sense on the ground, are the people of ukraine preparing for war, or do they think in the end the price will be too high for vladamir putin to go through snit >> outside of the armed forces who are doing counterexercises in the regions where the russians are, there is no preparation for war. most journalists are disappointed that they're not coming to kabul. i've been to sarajevo. i've been to cities at war. this place is like going to stuttgart. but i directly asked the commander of ukraine's armed forces what they need. i said, you know, if they need more weapons, as many javelins
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as their soldiers can carry, that will deter russia. >> yeah. we will have you back again. anne, malcolm, thank you both. before we go, a quick update on a story we brought you last week from missouri. the republican senate bill 666, dubbed the make murder legal act, that would have shifted the burden of proof on claims of self-defense has failed to pass out of committee. and up next, gary chambers releases another startling campaign ad. he joins me next. stay with us. campaign ad. he joins me next he joins me next stay with us just stop. go for a run. go for 10 runs! run a marathon. instead, start small. with nicorette. which can lead to something big. start opping with nicorette. ♪ ♪ feel stuck with student loan debt? move to sofi and feel what it's like to get your money right.
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15 years ago today, we saw the start of what seemed an impossible journey. senator barack obama stood in front of the old capitol in springfield, illinois and announced his candidacy for
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president. he acknowledged that it was a long shot. it's easy to forget how improbable that it was that a black man named barack hssein obama could become president of the united states. a year later, the game changed with three words. >> it was a creed written into the founding documents that declared the destiny of a nation. yes, we can. >> that unsolicited video was the original viral po garnering million views in two days. even obama lost the new hampshire primary. but his speech ignited a younger generation of voters and created a pop culture phenomenon. yes, we wasn't even the campaign slogan. the slogan was "change we can believe in." today, democratic candidates are using that same spirit to ignite their own campaign.
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like dr. christian jones, running to become the first black governor of arkansas. charles booker running in kentucky to unseat rand paul. and sherry beasley, running to become the first black senator from north carolina. and now gary chambers running for the senate in louisiana against the man nicknamed foghorn leg horn, senator kennedy. he broke the internet with a "blunt" statement about our marijuana laws. he brought the fire again, hit rally, taking on gerrymandering in his latest ad, and setting fire to a notorious confederate symbol. >> our system isn't broken, it's designed to do exactly what it's doing, producing measurable inequity. 1 in 13 black americans are deprived of the right to vote. 1 in 9 black americans do not have health insurance.
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1 in 3 black children live in poverty. i do believe the south will rise again, but this time it will be on our terms. >> i am joined now by gary chambers, democratic candidate for u.s. senate from louisiana. and the mans responsible for the most interesting political ads, for sure. we had you on when you did your first ad when you highlighted the unfairness of marijuana laws. explain this ad, you lit up the confederate flag. why? >> well, one, thank you for having us again. but we lit the confederate flag on fire because we need to burn the remnants of confederacy from every piece of legislation, that we are watchinggerrymandering,
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that this democracy is in trouble and sit the remnants of the confederacy that remain that have created this atmosphere that we live in. so if it takes us having a bold position by doing so to captivate and bring people to the conversation, we're going to do that. and i'm humbled that we would be in the conversation with the yes, we can video. because as a young voter, it inspired me. and it gave me a window into politics. so we're trying to reach people who are normally not conditioned to care about what's happening in the political spectrum, and we believe that we're being effective in doing so. >> you know what i love about what you just said, i think there is a sort of consulted, tested way of running for office. you know, you run somebody who is a self-funder and they do all these things. when you're talking about younger voters who grew up under obama, they expect more, right? and the floor is higher, because a black man named barack hussein
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obama became president twice in this country. so i feel like the frame has to be expanded. what i like is you're expanding the frame. your ad, if people just take it as oh, he's burning the confederate flag, you would miss the beginning of the ad, which you teach some history and you talk about the reconstruction period when a black man won state wide office and was refused to be seated and the claim was oh, it was voter fraud. which will sound familiar. talk a little bit about that, and the situation in your state where there is a gerrymandering sort of attempt that is not that dissimilar from what's happening in alabama. >> so let me say that we were very intentional with telling the story, because those who oppose critical race theory don't want you to know that he exists. they don't want you to know that there was a black man elected and there were all these other black folks elected in louisiana. and that the image of these
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black elected officials was so jarring that it was another 100 years before douglas wilder becomes the next black governor in this country, and there have only been four black governors in the history of this nation. surely, there are more brilliant black men and women who could have served in these offices.
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do you care about the mothers who are in a condition where their children are going too are their children are going t
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it's not a coincidence that states like mississippi have -- that also is not in the history books, you don't teach that. you are teaching it. let's talk about your opponent. julie kennedy. people may not know him other than, he has a little fog horn nickname because he's actually an awful guy, as you discussed last time. he pretends to be something else. his latest statement when asked about the supreme court nominees, it's going to be a black woman. he said, number, one i want to nominee who knows a law book from a j.crew catalog. that is his statement. apparently, he thinks that populism is j.crew, all cashmere, all the time. your thoughts on him and on how, what is your strategy to defeat him? he won last time pretty handily when he was reelected. although, your governor is a democrat. he won by narrowly. but he won. >> so, our strategy, number,
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one kennedy is a disgrace to the people of louisiana. it was connie who i caught in a school board meeting while they were talking about changing the name of the high school. so i think he should look at the republican party for examples for people doing their job while they're on the job. we have more than competent qualified jurist's in this country. a black woman just served as chief justice of the supreme court. bernie johnson. we have judge janice clark who soon -- a case that was a supreme court case that created all of the black judicial seats in louisiana. so jon kennedy spits on the legacy when he makes statements like that. when we have these fine jurors from our state. so when i look at where we are with him, our strategy is to expose him for the fraud that he is. and to build the greatest
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grassroots movement for the country to pay attention to louisiana and to send a message of the democratic party that louisiana is a state of 4 million people, houston is almost the size of louisiana. if the democratic party can't flip louisiana, and needs to fold its tent up and close at stores. because this is when you can win. it's the second biggest state in america. it's a place where victory can be want. but resources have to come with that. >> expanding the aperture. i am all for that. expanding the aperture of what we think about when we think about how politics should be played. gary chambers, thank you. thank you so much. we appreciate you. carefully will come back. and still ahead, despite what some republican lawmakers are saying, no, no, no, the biden administration is not giving outs cracked pipes. we will tell you what is really going on next. we will be right back. t is reall going on next.
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dealing from 1600 pa? you all know that is absolutely not happening in all of america, right? but before you could save the shade room, which later posted a correction, this lie, which was launched on conservative sites, and spread over the web, including on sites frequented by black and younger readers. i wonder why, i wonder what's behind a strategy associating joe biden would crack. even republican elected like marco rubio joined in. well, please take a moment to call uncle raw score or your cousin to the screen for just a second because these are the facts. there is a drug abuse and overdose crisis in america. not only crack, but also cocaine, matt, prescription drugs. too ever since the 1990s, the federal government has offered harm reduction tools to try to minimize the risks that includes safe smoking kits, which contain materials to help prevent disease transmission. but the biden version do not contain crack pipes. they do not. because that would be dumb.
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probably illegal to. the goal is to save lives, not get people to start using drugs. now, go back to reading facebook and instagram for fun and not the news. all in with chris hayes starts now. not the news >> tonight on all in -- >> people have nothing to hide, don't bleach. they will destroy evidence to keep it from being publicly archived as required under federal law. >> well, well, well, it was the man in the cabinet's hat. >> i won't talk about the fact that people have to flush their toilets 15 times. >> tonight, new reporting that donald trump took material clearly marked as classified out of the white house, new questions about an unexplained gap in white house for locks, and why donald trump's reported use of the white house toilet to flush documents could be a big problem in an investigation. >>

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