next. president biden spending his super bowl weekend huddling over the records of his top picks. plus, a potentially huge announcement in the fight against the coronavirus pandemic, as we're expecting breaking news from pfizer this hour. and later the president is holding a virtual meeting with foreign allies as he urges americans in ukraine to leave and to do it now. welcome to "meet the press daily." i'm kristen welker in for chuck todd. it's been just over two weeks since justice breyer announced he's retiring from the supreme court. mr. biden plans to spend the

weekend at camp david reviewing materials on potential supreme court nominees and that the interview process could begin as early as next week. we'll have our eyes glued to the white house stake-out cameras and we'll bring you any new information as it happened. president biden expanded on his selection process and short list in an exclusive interview with my nbc colleague lester holt. >> the short list are nominees who are incredibly well qualified and documented. >> what's the number you're at? four, five, six? >> what i've done is i've taken about four people and done the deep dive on them, meaning the thorough background checks and see if there's anything in the background that would make them not qualified. >> lester doing his best job to pin him down there. and the president of course said he has about four individuals on his short list but sources are telling nbc news that the three tom contender for the nomination right now are katanji brown

jackson, michelle -- leondra kreuger and michelle childs. >> the president's state of the union address is slated for march 1st. >> i'm not looking to make an ideological choice here. i'm looking for someone to replace judge breyer with the same kind of capacity that judge breyer had, with an open mind who understands the constitution, interprets it in a way that is consistent with the mainstream interpretation of the constitution. >> now as we've mentioned, this nomination has the potential to be a major political sell for president biden. it could unite senate democrats

who had their bond tested with their failure of the build back better agenda. it could show the country that president biden has the ability to build bipartisan consensus in washington. joining me now from the white house is my colleague josh letterman and with me on set is carol lee, doug fornell and author of "defending democracy together," bill crystal. josh, i do want to begin with you. we've been reporting that president biden is going to be spending the weekend at camp david reviewing potential nominees so what do we know about the process and what the president's going to be doing in the next few days? >> well, he will be reviewing those materials throughout the weekend while he's at camp david. in anticipation, as you've been reporting, of possibly actually sitting down with some of these nominees as early as next week. when you think about the way this process has played out

already, these are the same three candidates that we were talking and reporting were under consideration in the very first days after this vacancy became clear. that list expanded to roughly a dozen names and has now fallen back down to the same three candidates. it really speaks to the dual goals that the white house has in this confirmation process. one, to make this process fireproof, to make sure nobody can say they did not go through due diligence and at the same time they don't want to waste any more time than they need to. and these candidates are not people who are new to president biden's team given that his lawyers and his counsel have been looking really since even before the white house -- since before biden had taken over during the campaign at potential picks for who they would actually consider for a role like this.

according to my conversation, people in biden's orbit feel pretty good that they may get some bipartisan support by this nominee. they've been heartened by the conversations president biden has had with senators like mitt romney, lisa murkowski and susan collins. if you look for example at what mitt romney said a few days ago encouraging president biden to pick someone in the mold of justice breyer and sort of suggesting he could be inclined to support someone who followed that model and president biden telling lester just yesterday he does intend to name someone exactly in that mold and is optimistic about republican support. the white house is pretty confident there's not going to be that many republicans that want to go on the attack after a female black nominee and if they do, politically speaking, that's a fight that this white house would likely welcome. >> josh, you're so right to underscore that point. the tone that we are hearing is already so different when you

hear from republicans talking about a potential nominee. a number of them making it clear they are keeping an open mind. josh letterman, thank you for starting us off. carol, i want to turn to you now. you've been working your sources all night, all morning long. there's an urgency to this process. what are people telling you about that? >> there is. and part of that is just democratic jitters, right? you have members of the party who are like, look, we have this opportunity here, let's not slow roll it. who knows what could happen. we live in this world of covid and let's just get this done. and what we've seen from the white house is nothing really forces you to do something other than a deadline, right? the president has set by the end of the month. he has the state of the union, a huge audience. he would get to talk about this, it's an historic nomination and something they would unite the party and the country would get behind and feel proud about from the white house's perspective. they don't want this to drag on.

in some sense you have the nervous democrats who are like we want to get this done, the white house who is looking at march 1st, the end of february, saying this is something we want to be able to talk about at that point and all of that is leading up to the president making this nomination within the next few weeks. one date to keep an eye on is february 25th, which is the two-year anniversary of when then-candidate joe biden made this promise he would nominate a black woman. >> that's a really important date. circle it on your calendars, folks. doug, let me have you pick up on the point that carol is make about the nervous democrats. i interviewed dick durbin yesterday. let me play you what he said and get your reaction on the other side. >> you're confident he can make a pick by the end of this month as he has said he wants to? >> i got my fingers crossed. i want him to do the right thing and take the time to do it well but i'm anxious. the committee will communicate that to the president. we want to get started. we've got our committee staff

prepared to start reviewing the nominee that he sends forward. >> as carol was just saying, the political back drop to all of this is democrats are looking for a win in addition for this nomination process to go smoothly. >> yes, we need a win. if you look at the enthusiasm gap in the state and national polling, it's there with black voters in particular but progressives. i think biden here has a real chance and a real opportunity to make gains there. republicans don't seem to know how to position themselves here. you have lindsey graham, who has been favorable to republicans and others who are all offer the place in is a real opportunity for joe biden, for democrats. the sooner the better. but they want to do it in the right way. they don't want any surprises. this could be a real big victory for them.

>> bill crystal, pick up about the point of republicans speaking out. i think people were surprised to hear from graham so early in the process and he picked up on michelle childs. how important is bipartisan support? do you expect a number of republicans to get on board? >> yeah, i do. i think the republicans are split. i like the way we were talking about nervous democrats. what is it called when you repeat yourself? they should be going on the offensive. i agree with doug on this. they cannot just appeal to progressives, there a lot of moderates who are pleased at the notion of more diversity on the court who will look briefly at these candidates' resumés say they like very much like judges on the various d.c. circuit or

state court or judicial kreuger on the california supreme court. and i this i biden should exploit this. i think the democrats, frankly, should really make an issue of this. they should highlight the supporters and call out the roger wickers of the world. make the republicans split. let trump weigh in and attack mitt romney. >> does that back fire, those comments by wicker? >> totally. if democrats do a little to help make them back fire. >> you're seeing groups mobilizing in support of whoever the nominee is. so i think you are going to see that. this is a legacy pick for biden. this is one of those historic picks that he's going to be remembered for way down the road. and the people who are opposing

whoever this may be will also be in the history books, too. >> let the suburban voters outside atlanta, let them hear about roger wicker and let's see what walker says. i think it's an opportunity in some of these big states for democrats to not just appeal to the base but to moderate swing voters. >> we've already seen the white house do this. when senator wicker made those comments, they came out very quickly and they have it on all the candidates and they're prepared to move very fast when -- if there are moments like that throughout this process. but one of the things that they also are signaling to republicans for support, saying i'm not looking for an idealogue. >> one of the interesting

components is what the background should look like in terms of person's education and there's been some criticism including from james clyburn that there are too many people on the court with ivy league degrees. could this actually bolster someone like a judge michelle childs who was not educated in ivy league? >> sure. one of the things you know about joe biden because you've covered him for a while is the president can be somewhat critical or at least note that people are ivy league and think they're smarter than others potentially. he's not an ivy leaguer himself, i'm not either. and so this is something that when you're talking about diversity, it's also background and where people come from just in terms of what their education experience is like. so i think it's very much in the conversation. >> doug, we can't ignore the fact this is coming against the backdrop of a very difficult moment for the president. he's dealing with the crisis in

ukraine. yesterday we found out that inflation is at a 40-year high. yes, jobs are up but the inflationary figures continue to dog this president has he heads towards the state of the union address. what does the administration need to do in order to turn the page on this very difficult moment for the economy and still in the fight against covid? >> i think there's some opportunities for biden and for democrats in particular. yes, we're in a tough moment and it's been a tough few months, but the covid numbers are dropping. i think that's something that the administration should take credit for. he does have the state of the union coming up in march to tell the story and ultimately what democrats need to do is have a narrative. you've got multiple different stories out there by democrats about what's going on. people need to understand why inflation is where it is, right? the republicans are saying it's biden's fault. we need a counter to that,

whether it's corporations raising prices, whether it's china, whaufr it may be be there needs to be a unified and president biden responded to lester to a question about inflation. i want to play that. >> i think it was back in july you said inflation was going to be temporary. i think a lot of americans are wondering what your definition of temporary is. >> well, you're being a wise guy with me a little bit. i understand that's your job. but look, at the time what happened was -- let's look at the reason for the inflation. the reason for the inflation is the supply chains were cut off. >> when can americans expect some relief from this soaring inflation? >> according to nobel laureates and a number of corporate leaders, it ought to be able to start to taper off as we go through this year. in the meantime, i'm going to do

whatever i can in my power to deal with the big points impacting most people in their homes. >> bill crystal, the president said this is going to taper off. you've seen the impact on presidencies if it doesn't. >> they're in some trouble but you've got to make other arguments. one year ago, the house was debating the rescue plan. people are getting big refunds. if you have little kids, you're middle class, you're getting big refunds from that child credit. >> nobody talks about it. >> the president should have said i'm very pleased americans

are getting $7,000 more than we have gotten and that was passed by seven democrats. >>. >> kids in school, 98%, 99% of kids are in school, small businesses are open, we're getting shots in people's arms, gdp is at 5. that's better growth than china. that's a great story to tell. now, you have to balance that with the anxiety that people feel. >> the significance and the timing that president obama spoke to democrats yesterday to say, hey, we got to get it together. >> yeah, and you see him crop up at significant moments. we saw it can voting rights and now we're seeing it at that moment. what's interesting about that is that president obama krit

himself and even president biden has said -- now president biden is experiencing that. we've heard for weeks they know the problems and they diagnosed it, we have messaging problems, but we haven't seen a full fledged fix yet. what's interesting about bringing in president obama to talk to democrats is that seems to be part of it and they probably have time to get there but not much. >> fantastic panel. so glad to you have you person. stick around. be sure to tune in to the president's full interview this sunday airing before the super bowl and it's only on nbc. still to come, president biden holds a virtual meeting with foreign allies as russia conducts military drips of size and scope not seen since the cold war. we're on the ground in ukraine

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welcome back. we are getting a new sense of urgency from the white house that a russian invasion of ukraine could be imminent. president biden held a virtual meeting with leaders of fellow nato leaders. the president's national security team met last night in the situation room to discuss russia's continued build up of troops along its border with ukraine. this morning secretary of state tony blinken warned a russian military offensive could happen at any time. >> we continue to see forces escalating and continuing to the ukrainian border. we're in a window when an invasion could begin at any

time. and to be clear, that includes during the olympics. >> richard haas, thank you so much for joining us on a very busy and critical day for the administration and the world as they watch this crisis unfold. what do you make of this new rhetoric that we're hearing from the white house, what you just heard from the secretary of state? >> what it is is a reflection of capabilities that russia is putting on the border. we can't read intention. all we can read and monitor what russia are doing. it's extensive. people were hoping it would taper off, that was a building to a diplomatic outcome. well, it's continuing. i can't sit here and tell you they're definitely going to invade or if they do what the scale will be but so far there's no sign whatsoever that they're prepared to shut this down. >> for president biden working with some of his allies, we

understand he described the new german chancellor at no merckle, the u.k. prime minister as blustery. how do you perceive his relationship with his nato allies and how critical is it? have they been strengthened in this crisis? >> they've been strengthened in this crisis but it's against a back drop where they've been decidedly weakened not just from this administration but two previous administrations, like when mr. obama did or didn't do in syria and trump in europe, and this administration didn't help itself with afghanistan. that being said, this administration is an alliance-first administration. i think they have done a good job choreographing the western response. but most europeans are quitely uneasy about the united states.

quite honestly they haven't figured out what is the aberration and what is the normal, what you saw under trump whether that was the aberration and whether in a sense the united states will go back to being unpredictable and unreliability. seeing macron and others doing, they don't want to put all their eggs in one basket before. >> you have written extensively that president putin either has to escalate or essentially find a way to save face, that the u.s. and allies need to give him an off ramp. based on my conversation with administration officials, they say, look, we have put various different off ramps on the table and putin hasn't accepted any of them. is there still a chance for a diplomatic resolution for this or is the window narrowing by

the minute? >> i think it's fair what they say. take the idea of off ramp literally. you're driving down the turnpike and no one can force you to turn off. i think they've given putin about limits and the likelihood of ukraine ever coming into nato, new european security arrangements, arms control. all that is there. the question is whether putin wants to avail himself of it. we can't predict it and given what mr. lavrov said, there's no sign they're interested in an off ramp. >> you mentioned the withdrawal from afghanistan, which by all accounts was messy. the administration was criticized widely for that. do you think that president putin is testing this president? does he look at a situation like afghanistan and say he can flex

his muscles in this way? >> it's a good question. i can't prove what i'm going to say now but i think there's a decent chance that after afghanistan, after january 6th, against the last couple of years or six, seven years of american foreign policy, putin might have essentially come to the conclusion that he could mass large amounts of forces on ukraine's border and essentially get away with it that there would be at most a token western response. my guess is he got more than he bargained for and what he's trying to figure out does he go ahead with an intervention, if so, what scale? does he go with diplomacy? but my sense is he underestimated us in part because of afghanistan and is in some ways unhappily surprise with the breadth and depth of the u.s.-led western response. >> president biden told our lester holt that he would not send u.s. troops to ukraine to evacuate americans. they are urging people to get out now. what will you be watching for in

these next 24, 48 hours? >> the real question is again it's all about russia. there's not much more we can do do. we threaten all things to do, we're putting in arms but it's inside the head of one man, of putin's mind. it whether he wants to play for time or more broadly to see if more fissures open up in nato. there's 30 countries orchestrating that. it's with vladimir putin. he manufactured this, he's brought this to the edge. he's got to decide whether russia goes over the edge. >> richard haas, thank you so much for joining us this hour. we really appreciate it. still ahead, breaking news

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the last age group unprotected against the virus. the company said it did not have enough data on its two-dose regimen to recommend it for young kids and needs more data on a three-dose vaccine. this is a major reversal for the company and for the messaging out of the cdc and the biden white house. the cdc had already purchased the necessary doses and had planned to role them out as early as february 21st. now president biden said he saw the vaccinations as imminent when he spoke to my colleague lester holt last night. take a listen. >> i got in office, only 46% of schools were open and now 96% are open and they're wearing masks. of day children are more protected. we're now on the verge of being able to have shots for children under the age of 7, young children. >> for the very latest now, i'm joined by gabe gutierrez, and medical correspondent john torres.

to help us break down this news, i'm also joined by dr. irwin redletter. thanks to all of you for being here. gabe, set the table. break down this news for us. why is pfizer pulling their fda application? >> millions of parents who were waiting on this, they're going to have to wait a little longer. just within the past few minutes the company saying they plan to extend their rolling submission to the fda, essentially pulling the emergency use authorization application because you might remember next week an fda advisory panel was set to meet on tuesday to discuss this. and typically how this played out is the fda advisory panel would discuss it and then if

they voted for emergency use authorization, then the cdc would take a look at this. the cdc had said that it was possible if everything went well to have shots in arms by president's day. earlier this week pfizer's ceo seemed confident that the fda would take a look at this and authorize this. as you mentioned just yesterday president biden told lester we were on the verge of this as well. so this is a significant change. so why, you know, what's the significance here in terms of why didn't they wait until submitting this emergency use authorization application when it had more complete data? you'll remember there was a lot of pressure to get this vaccine to the youngest children. in december late last year, pfizer said that two doses did not provide a significant enough immune response but it didn't have the data for the third dose. now these are smaller doses than

adults and even than are given to older children. so it's 3 micrograms. the thinking might have been why don't we get the emergency use authorization for the first two dose, give kids a head start and once we get the data for that third dose, then hopefully it will be authorized and we'll be able to give kids that whole vaccine dosage of three doses. well, there was some pushback. some people were saying if the first two doses don't give enough significant response, then what's the point? why doesn't we wait to get data from the third dose and that appears to be what's happening here. the breaking news is pfizer pulling its emergency use authorization, waiting on more data. >> gabe gutierrez covering all of the angles of this major breaking news for us. dr. torres, can you pick up on what gabe was just talking about. i mean, what exactly went wrong here? should they have waited longer to make sure that they had confidence in their data?

>> i think you have to go back to a couple of months and listen to what pfizer and other health experts have said and see where they are right now. a couple of months ago they said they had looked at the data for the two-shot regime, which most of us have gotten and found out it went sufficient in the age group of six months to 4 years old. they said we're probably going to need three shots and they've been doing this rolling submission to the fda thinking they p today they could close the application and over the next couple months as they're waiting for the third shot, get more information, submit that on a rolling basis and get the authorization as well. they looked at the data and all indications might have said we need more robust data and might

have been from the fda as well, let's push forward with a third dose and not do it with just these two doses. it's been very complicated over the last couple of days and hours looking at this but it is possible that could happen. one thing you need to remember, for those of us 12 and above, we're getting 30 micrograms. 5 to 10 years old, they're getting half of the dose. their bodies act differently, immune systems acts differently. it's possible they're seeing something to they make sure it self-and effective. >> it is complicated. you break it very well. as we look forward, how do these studies usually go? do we expect to see pfizer ask again in a few weeks or a few months once they go back to the drawing board? >> i think they're going to look at the studies here and see what that third dosing does.

they have had cases in the community which are helping them out. as those cases go down, it's going to be harder to get that information and i think they will submit for that third dose. >> just to make this personal for the people this impacts and the family it impacts, what does it mean for families who have kids under the age of 5? for a lot of them, myself included, you feel like you're living back in the early days of the pandemic in 2020. this is a big setback. what should they know based on this announcement. >> it's really important that parents understand what we've all been talking about here. and this is really what made sense. first of all, there was even more confusion than we've just been talking about with respect to vaccinating children under 4 because for the group of six-month-olds to 2-year-olds, two doses looked like it was giving adequate immune protection.

but for the 2-year-olds through 4-year-olds, not so much. and there was a lot of confusion. i'm a little disappointed that pfizer kind of rushed the game here and what parents need to know now, it's going to be a little while longer. and i think for a parent who is looking at their babies and toddlers and wants to get them vaccinated, it's probably going to take another several weeks before the fda is going to reves it this issue. and once the f did has approved whatever the recommendations are, in and i think if you're a parent listening to us talking about this is that for your young are babies, you're going to be able to have a two-shot regimen for the six month to 2-year-olds and then for the 2-year-olds to 4-year-olds, i think it's pretty clear that they're going to need a third dose, a booster shot in that

part of that age group. i think that's fine except that we just need more data to establish that this is the right course of action but it's coming and as soon as it gets here, we're going to recommend every parent make sure their children are vaccinated, including the 5 to 11 yearley who is have been eligible for a while but we only have 20% of that age group vaccinated. i think we're going to face some challenges in the younger kids, too. the cdc just released a study on the effectiveness of the booster that says it actually wanes after four months. keeping people out of hospital is only about 66% at that period. how big of a setback is that revelation? >> well, it's news for sure, chrissin this the vaccination, the two plus the booster for most of us, even though the

immunological response is waning after three, four, five months, it is still going to be protective for most people against being hospitalized or dying from covid. that said, i this what we're going to be looking at is one of two possibilities. either we're going to need at some point a fourth shot, app additional booster, or at some point the scientists that are working on this at the nih and at the army research facility are going to come up with a vaccine that's universal for all kinds of covid viruses and that may last what lot longer in terms of protection than what we're dealing with now. so we have to hang in there and keep making sure we get the two doses and at least the one booster for now. >> all right. really important message there at the end. dr. torres, dr. redliner, thank

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welcome back. as republicans look to win back control of the house this november, this week may teach them an important lesson. if you're not 100% donald trump, you're against him. mr. trump endorsed the primary challenger to south carolina congresswoman mace this week. mace worked on trump's 2016 campaign, voted against impeaching him and then voted against the formation of a january 6th committee, but she also voted to certify the electoral college volts and voted to hold steve bannon in contempt for refusing to testify before the house committee. tesy before the house committee

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if you want a republican majority to thwart the radical far left, then we've got to keep the seat and we've got to get a majority back. if you want to lose the seat once again in the mid-term election cycle to democrats, then my opponent is more than qualified to do just that. welcome back. back with me now, carol lee,

bill kristol and doug thornel. that video talks about the challenge for some republicans. here you have nancy mace. she is trying to hold on to her seat walking a very fine line with seat. donald trump has endorsed her appointment and she's in front of trump power. >> yeah, it was not to criticize donald trump and stand in front of trump tower, and that does say it all, right? so pathetic. >> does this work? voters want authenticity, and she's been all over the map when it comes to trump and where she stands and then to do this, i don't know. >> let me read what donald trump said in endorsing her opponent.

bill, one of the things that i find interesting about this is it underscores why you have kevin mccarthy embracing trump and saying we need him to hold on to the house. >> yeah, the thing he did have against nancy, she said a couple things about the january 6th, and it feels like we are talking about and you should talk about this on the air, because we talk about it off the air, and the democrats could do a better job of wrapping the extremism of the republicans and donald trump himself, and decent republicans have to fly up to new york and bow before the former president. >> this is the conundrum

democrats are facing, because again, going back to former president obama's meeting with them, you have places where they can remind folks about former donald trump, and he's a unifying lightning rod. >> it's not just trump. remember, the rnc passed a resolution a week ago that basically said -- which said that january 6th was legitimate political discourse. so right then and there, you know, democrats, i think -- i think they have been somewhat effective here, forced republicans to condemn that, or do they embrace that? do they think on january 6th, when you had multiple people die, police officers die -- >> nancy pelosi spoke out about it. >> no, no, they haven't. >> they run away from reporters in the capitol. >> republicans run away.

i think democrats are prosecuting, and they could be tougher on it. >> uh-huh. >> yeah, look, make them own this. it's surprising to me that a lot of these republicans that talk tough rollover for trump, and they are just such cowards. >> we have seen this time and again, a republican gets out there against the former president, and he criticized them, they -- it just keeps happening and it underscores, and we talk about it all the time which is former president trump has a strong grip on the party and you can't get through the primary if you are a republican anywhere without his support, and then he goes on to say she was a terrible candidate and on and on. >> you are absolutely right. even as we watch the divides within the republican party, there are significant divides at the democratic party as well, and highlighted by henry cuellar's district seat, and he

had the challenge of the fbi raiding his home and not faced with any charges yet, but certainly has raised scrutiny of him as a candidate and he's running against somebody who has been endorsed by alexandria ocasio-cortez, jessica saw their yos, that just ran a tough ad saying he has been in washington too long. >> i don't think there will be a ton of these primaries on the democratic side, and you look at the republican side, and you look at states like arizona, look at states like pennsylvania, you know, they are going to see some really brutal primaries. we are already seeing it in a number of these places. georgia as well. this is a house district that, you know, that at the end of the day is not a huge -- of huge concern to democrats, but for republicans when you look at the senate map and go state by state and there are places they need to win there are competitive

ugly primaries taking place that reveal republicans to be super dysfunctional, so that, to me, is the story. >> carol, before we go, there are allegations before two central democrats that claims the cia is receiving bulk data pertaining to americans? what do you make of this and could it back fire? >> it's something we are taking a serious look at, and much of the letter is rejected so we don't know what this is about, but it raises a lot of questions, and it's the kind of thing that the american public really doesn't like in the sense that there's a concern that people are too much in our business, and they are spying on us and with our devices and the thing we saw with the edward snowden issue, and the biden administration will need to address. >> and comes against the backdrop of this very political

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good to be with you. i am katy tur. we are watching the white house where any moment now the white house security adviser will be joining jen psaki at today's press briefing. it's not just a drop-by, according to our own kelly o'donnell, he only comes to the briefing when he has news to deliver. let's consider the timing. last night president biden's security team met, and leaders of the uk, france, germany, and more showing putin the west is in lockstep. an invasion