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my name is nilson barahona. i'm originally from honduras. my father is a citizen. my wife is a citizen. my son has been born here. my mom is a legal resident. i've been here for 20 years. so what is the point of i.c.e. having me here for? >> [ speaking foreign language ].
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♪♪ >> covid-19 can be characterized as a pandemic. >> all of italy, a country of 60 million people, is now effectively a red zone. >> covid-19 is sweeping through the country's jails. they have proven to be a breeding ground for contagion.
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♪♪ >> how is everybody doing? what are you thinking about what's happening out here? this coronavirus thing. >> everybody is here under a lot of stress. we see what's happening outside and how fast it's been moving. once it gets in here, we're all in complete risk. >> [ speaking foreign language ]. >> [ speaking foreign language ]. >> the guards, they only wore their face masks on monday and now they don't even have it on
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at all. as you see, she's going up there. she's going up there checking every room. >> they are not practicing it. which is the social distance, the six feet. we're 32 people in here. there is no way we are going to practice that. >> [ speaking foreign language ]. >> i got three problems for what i'm treating which is high cholesterol, high blood pressure and diabetes. this is the medicine i have to take for every day. >> [ speaking foreign language ]. ♪♪
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>> i am concerned because at this point my health is at risk. it's not easy to be here right now. they are telling us to put our stuff together so we can move to alf p. app alpha is a place one on top of the other. we don't know exactly the reason why. what we know is they're going to put us in a more worse condition. if ner trying to us use force to take us out of here there is going to be a big issue. >> we all did. we all said we are not moving. you think we all fit in the hole? we don't fit in the hole. they can't put us all in there.
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>> [ speaking foreign language ]. >> the warden makes a declaration saying that there was somebody here who tested positive for coronavirus and he's here. >> i'm really scared i'm going to die. >> [ speaking foreign language ]. >> the women communicated with us. they sent us a note through the laundry bag. they sent a letter saying that they are going to go on strike. >> [ speaking foreign language ].
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>> we started this friday by refusing dinner and refused to work for this facility until i.c.e. free us. >> [ speaking foreign language ]. >> nilson, how are you feeling about this? i mean, like it's reached this point, but also you don't know what they're going to do. >> i've tried to be strong, to
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hold on. it's really hard. there is so much going on outside. they've been forgetting us. if you can call me after the break? >> can you just keep it running? >> there is nobody infected in this facility. >> okay. let me tell you something. my name is nilson barahona. i put a lawsuit, okay? to this facility. >> okay. >> both of the wardens were in the federal court on thursday. and they declared that they have tested three people and one came positive. >> the people responsible are nowhere to be found. they're all sitting at home
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somewhere barking orders, telling people like me what to say to you. it's a fucked up situation. it really is. the facility is going to continue addressing issues as they arise. what that entails i have no idea. okay? ♪♪ >> hello? >> hi, tishante, it's seth. what's going on with your husband at this point? >> they retaliated against all the people that are participating in the hunger strike. and so now he's in isolation. [ phone ringing ] >> [ speaking foreign language ].
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>> hey, have you heard from nilson? >> today he's still in the hole in delta. in the shu. i'm so worried about nilson because he's got a really weak condition. >> and with him refusing medication one of the i.c.e. ladies said they're going to get a permit from the judge to force-feed us. ♪♪ [ phone ringing ] >> hello. >> nilson barahona. >> is calling you from -- irwin county detention center.
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>> hi, nilson. how are you? >> i'm okay. i mean, you know, i haven't eaten for five days today. nothing. we haven't drink any water also, taken any of my medicines. when i get up, you know, i get dizzy. honestly, i'm feeling weak. this is very unhumanitarian. and i mean we haven't committed no crime. we are not hurting nobody. we didn't behave aggressively in any way whatsoever. so it's really hard to understand why they are treating us this way. >> [ speaking foreign language ].
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>> let me show you really quick, okay? >> yeah. oh, wow. and they're like all over the place, huh? >> basically. they just put them around. it says, "please practice social distancing and maintain a 6 feet distance from each other." big letters. >> do you know when this inspection's going to happen? >> week and a half, man. i mean, they have been running this place for years and they haven't cleaned it up properly. look. there is all kinds of stuff in there. i mean, hair, everything. it's not sanitary. [ phone ringing ] >> they're transferring me. >> what? >> yeah. to stewart. >> when? >> they're taking me from here to stewart. tonight.
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>> you know a dream that i have, it happens a lot. i'm walking on sand. i'm walking and it feels like a nice breeze, it feels really nice. but then the sand it just starts like creating waves. and then it becomes like huge mountains. and then i see like if the mountain is going to fall over me. and then i have to run away from these waves. and it's a bad feeling. i don't know. thinking about it makes me think like on unstable ground. ♪♪
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>> [ speaking foreign language ]. >> my son. i talked to him the day before yesterday on the phone. and he for the first time in six years, he said something to me that he had never said before. he said, "daddy, can we speak in
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english please?" speaking spanish, it was our thing. you know, this was a bond that we had together. i just feel like i am losing that bond, you know. i just want to be able to be with him. >> america has been and still is the greatest country in the world. we are the shining city on the hill. now it's up to us to protect what the rest of the world envies. economic opportunity for everybody. individual liberty for our children and our grandchildren. >> [ speaking foreign language ].
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>> [ speaking foreign language ]. >> we heard about it on the news, spanish tv. somebody who was detained by i.c.e. in the facility of stewart passed away. it was shocking, you know, because we know there are people sick but we all hope that nobody dies, you know what i mean? >> we're asking as a threshold matter for these 11 petitioners to be released. >> i've already ruled on that. and i haven't heard anything terribly persuasive to change my mind on that. ♪♪
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>> a whistleblower, a nurse working at a georgia immigrations and customs enforcement i.c.e. facility, leveling honestly ghastly allegations. the complaint alleges the facility lacked protection against coronavirus for detained immigrants. >> we didn't have anything to sanitize with. we didn't have the proper ppe. the first case of covid in the facility, it was covid is not here in this facility. >> [ speaking foreign language ]. >> women in that facility, mie grapt women, say a doctor was performing procedures for which no medical indication existed. >> they say you're going to do a surgery. i said nobody informed me that i'm going to do a surgery.
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all of a sudden i get up. that's when i know they went through my belly button. i got three big holes. he never explained anything to me and i never agreed. >> [ speaking foreign language ]. >> that's outside irwin? when did that happen? >> now. >> [ speaking foreign
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language ]. >> we are just leaving this irwin county detention center. there was one woman in particular. she described the experience here as torture. >> what's going on? >> not much. >> i see your shirt. >> we just feel that we've got to do something, man. to feel proud of all, you know, there's too much going on outside and we can't ignore it. even though there's nothing we can do. but at least like this we feel like we are part of it. >> [ speaking foreign language ]. >> can't take a picture. put the camera down.
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♪♪ >> [ speaking foreign language ].
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♪♪ [ speaking foreign language ] >> today i can tell you that i
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am sure people on the inside are feeling what we're doing over here on the outside. they told me you need to leave this country because you are a threat to the community. who were they talking about? my wife, a person who was born here? somebody who was suffering because i wasn't next to her? were they talking about my son, a united states citizen? they were protecting my son by taking me away from him? were they protecting my sisters? my mom? who were they protecting? that's what i wonder up to today's date. ♪♪
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♪♪ ♪♪ good evening. i'm alicia menendez. by the end of 2021 every detainee held at the irwin county detention facility had been transferred to another
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location. but the conditions in detention centers are still vulnerable to the spread of covid, putting thousands of people in i.c.e. custody at risk. joining me now, seth freed wessler, director of "the facility," an investigative reporter at pro publica. immigration attorney monica glicken whose client andrea manrique was featured in the documentary. along with nilson barahona who was continued his advocacy for immigration rights since his release, finding the group the i.c.e. breakers. seth, i want to start with you. your film offers a rare glimpse into what life is like inside these detention facilities. what did it take to tell this story? >> you know, when the pandemic began and our whole world was sort of turned on its head, i began trying to report on what was happening in immigration and customs enforcement detention centers, places i knew where it would be incredibly difficult to stop the spread of covid-19. and i wanted to figure out what was happening inside and what life was like for people held
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inside. and so i began making calls using this video visitation app that's installed inside of the cell blocks of many i.c.e. detention centers around the country. for 25 cents a minute i was able to call in and see what was happening inside. so i've reported a series of stories for the web and for the "new york times" magazine about what was happening in i.c.e. detention, but it struck me immediately that what i was seeing, i was entering into the sort of visual world of this detention center. and so i began the process of using hundreds of hours of footage that i gathered from these web cams streaming out of a detention center to put together and direct this film "the facility" that tells the story of really the first year of the pandemic inside of an i.c.e. detention center, a place meant not to be seen from the outside. >> let's be very clear. while the amount of attention that has been placed on irwin means that irwin itself has been closed, there are still thousands of people who are being held in detention centers
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in the middle of a pandemic. what are you hearing from your clients about congresses? other facilities? >> all of our clients are extremely concerned about the conditions in the detention facilities. i should say that precovid there were already numerous outbreaks of infectious diseases like chicken pox. then covid came, a deadly contagious disease, and our clients continuously have complained about conditions including lack of cleaning supplies. detainees are made to clean the facilities themselves. a lot of people don't realize this. and they're either not given adequate supplies or given supplies that give off toxic fumes. they're not given masks. they're not able to socially distance, physically distance from each other. so we continue to have clients who report that they are in fear for their lives that they are going to get covid and die in detention. >> monica, i think there are a lot of people who will watch the documentary, listen to our conversation and say what is the alternative? walk us through what a fair and humane immigration system would
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look like, specifically as it relates to detention. >> well, i should start by saying immigration detention is not criminal. these are people who are not being sentenced to a crime. they're not paying some sort of punishment. it's supposed to really be there for public safety, to ensure compliance with immigration requirements, and the truth is there's a whole other september of possibilities for doing that. many of the folks in detention have all the incentive in the world to attend their hearings. all they need is a day in court and check-ins to keep them informed about what's going on in their cases and where they need to be. that's really all most people need. there are additional tools that immigration can turn to if they really need -- they feel they need extra security in a case such as home visits, in-person checkins with i.c.e. officers. the whole range of tools they can use. sometimes they even do surprise home visits. they do monitoring.
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they do phone call visits. there's all types of tools they have at their disposal. and really detention of human beings should be the very last resort. in my view it's completely unnecessary for immigration. >> nilson, i want to ask you about what is just a remarkable moment you were able to catch on camera. an i.c.e. officer comes in to make an announcement to the unit about covid, and you challenge what he has to say. take a listen. >> there is nobody infected in this facility. >> okay, let me tell you something. my name is nilson barahona. i put a lawsuit. okay? to this facility. >> okay. >> both of the wardens were in the federal court on thursday. and they declared that they have tested three people and one came positive. >> the people responsible are nowhere to be found. they're all sitting at home somewhere barking orders, telling people like me what to
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say to you. it's a [ bleep ] up situation. it really is. >> nilson, my heart races every time i watch that exchange. what was going through your mind as it happened? >> it was a very emotional moment i would say because until this point we haven't confront anybody with this information yet that they did -- they wasn't aware that we had it in our possession. and the fact that we was able to tell them not only with our mouth but with something that had been said by somebody in the highest position there of authority on that detention center, which was the warden, and they basically couldn't say nothing. he was faced with this reality.
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it just helped for him to take that mask off and truly express the way he feel about the whole situation. >> nilson, when you saw people -- footage of people marching outside, it seemed to create some sense of hope, some sense of solidarity. now that you are on the outside advocating for change, what does that feel like? >> well, when i was inside detention, you know, for a long time and i said this many times, we feel like people have forget about us, you know? and we saw there was people on the outside who care about us enough to do this, it was really exciting but not only that but now that i'm on the outside i am honored to be part of this group of activists, you know? people who are fighting for human rights. the coalition to shut down i.c.e. in georgia is a coalition
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formed by many organizations. and we are working together, you know, trying to raise our voice and tell the government like what we go through, you know, when we are detained on these places. so this kind of treatment can stop. >> seth, what surprised you most in making this film? >> you know, for me the camera on my computer screen and on the side, on these tablets inside of this detention center, functioned sort of as a portal into this place that really is normally a black hole. so i try in this film to tell the story of of what life is like in a really granular sense inside of this detention center. and one of the things that was most profound to watch was that i observed a real level of solidarity inside of this detention center where people came together and organized themselves to demand protection,
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to demand release. the irwin county detention center is a lot like many detention centers around the country. i've been reporting on i.c.e. detention for years, and i've seen tremendous suffering. this film brings us inside of one of them. irwin county detention center is no longer holding i.c.e. detainees, and i think it's really clear one of the reasons for that is that people inside of this place were organized before -- had been organizing for months and were able to call attention to abuses inside of this place. >> seth, monica, nilson, thank you all so much for your time. president biden may have closed the facility in 2021, but what about the rest of his immigration agenda? that's next. that's next. it is moisturising. i bring the dove beauty bar home because it not only cleans, it hydrates my skin. i see what it does for my patients and it's exactly what i want to do for my family.
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president biden promised a new era of immigration policy.
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irwin county detention center is closed. but what about the rest of the president's immigration agenda? to talk about that i'm joined now by luis gutierrez, former congressman from illinois, and our own jacob soboroff. good o'see you both. jacob, zoom out for me and talk about the rest of the president's agenda. >> well, look, i think we're talking about here about irwin in particular apps a microcosm for the larger immigration system, which president biden as a candidate promised to basically radically depart from. as president he promised a fair and a safe and a humane and an equitable immigration system. but look at the landscape today. the vast majority of those private detention centers like irwin are still open and still operating. deterrence is still the guiding force, the guiding philosophy of u.s. immigration policy, which is to say we are going to harm you if you make your way to the u.s. we are going to force you into a dangerous or deadly journey. and whether it's title 42, president trump's immigration
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policy which they say was a public health policy, which has been continued by the biden administration, or the remain in mexico policy which the biden administration on the one hand has tried to fight but now has been forced to adopt by the courts, deterrence is still the guiding philosophy of u.s. immigration policy and for the biden administration. and i think many activists and attorneys and migrants, quite frankly, didn't expect that to be the case right now. >> congressman, so long as you have title 42 in place, so long as you have remain in mexico in place, can this administration actually deliver on a fair, safe and equitable immigration system? >> it really can't, alicia. look, the premise is that people seeking asylum have always been welcome to america. and just a handicap on this thing. title 42, that's stephen miller's idea, one of the most anti-immigrant people you can find. hateful and full of bigotry against our immigrant community.
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and we're going to keep it in place? come on. who are we kidding? alicia, they will not process people at the border because they said that there is a health crisis and used title 42. okay. how about the over 10 million people that every month cross that border back and forth every month and they're not stopped? how about the hundreds of thousands of people that each year come from foreign countries and are still allowed to come here? no. it's phony. it's bogus. and it's anti-american. and you know who profits from this, alicia? i'll tell you who profits from this. the cartels. the drug smugglers. those that exploit this very vulnerable population. unfortunately, we created detention centers, didn't we? it's called ellis island. remember that? the island of tears. and so then we had detention centers. we might as well call them the detention center and the islands of death because people, alicia,
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are dying. separate from covid-19 people are dying. half of those that died in i.c.e. facilities while in detention died because of medical reasons and because they didn't receive the appropriate medical attention. so my hope is that we will -- yes, they're fighting in court the stay in mexico policy, let's take it to the supreme court, let's fight it, and let's be humane and let's be real. let's not listen to the haters of immigrants and those who would cause -- and lastly, nilson. what a brave man. and what a threat he is, isn't he, to america. no threat whatsoever. his wife is legally in this country. his children are american citizens. his parents are here. everything he has is in america. he will certainly show up to each and every one of his hearings. he wants to be an american in every sense of the word.
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>> jacob, as you and i have talked about many times, this administration both has the task of building and imagining a fair, equitable and humane immigration system. they also have a lot of undoing before them including much of your reporting focusing on family separation under the p trump administration. where are we in the biden administration's efforts to reunify those families? >> i think we're in a similar position as we are with all the other facets of immigration policy that we've discussed. i think that the biden administration has attempted when it comes to the separation of 5,500 kids from their parents by the trump administration, which was called torture by physicians for human rights. government-sanctioned child abuse by the american academy of pediatrics. they've had signals that they want to move in the right direction. but here we are one year after president biden and vice president harris were inaugurated. 112 families have been reunified according to the last count of over 1,000 who are still separated. there's no guarantee whatsoever of permanent legal status for
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. before we go tonight, it has been more than one year since the house voted to impeach donald trump for inciting an insurrection in the wake of the january 6th attack. now a new documentary uncovers the powerful story of a key figure in that trial. lead impeachment manager maryland congressman jamie raskin. "love & the constitution" follows congressman raskin for more than three years,
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documenting the congressional newcomer who would become a leader in the fight against the up from administration and who would endure unimaginable loss after the suddenly death of his son tommy just days before the attack on the capitol. tonight we have an exclusive clip from the film, a prescient conversation between congressman raskin and his son tommy on election night 2020. >> tommy. >> hey. >> are you staying up or are you going to sleep? >> i don't know, dad. >> i don't think so. i'd be willing to put money on it. >> oh, really? >> yeah. >> it's a win-win for me because if trump wins i get money. if trump loses i get biden. >> all right. love you, kiddo. bye. my kids were so freaked out that trump might win. everybody's so freaked out. it's going to be a long night. trump is going to be suing -- we're going to win this narrowly and then trump is going to be
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fighting it every step along way. i mean, buckle up. it's going to -- we'll be fighting about this until we get into the new congress. we'll be fighting about it until january 6th. >> that new documentary "love & the constitution" debuts on sunday february 6th, 10:00 p.m. eastern right here on msnbc. do not miss it it. i'm alicia menendez. good night. good night o hoo! ensure, complete balanced nutrition with 27 vitamins and minerals. and ensure complete with 30 grams of protein. ♪ ♪ (vo) america's most reliable network is going ultra! wwith verizon 5g ultra wideband now in many more cities. hey, it's mindy! downloading a movie up to 10 times faster than before. whoa! is that done? (mindy) yep! (vo) verizon is going ultra, so you can too. ♪ (jazz music) ♪ (thank you, have a nice day.)
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