good to be with you, i'm katy tur. this afternoon there is breaking news of a close encounter between the u.s. navy and russia. nbc news pentagon correspondent courtney kube reports that u.s. navy p-8 surveillance aircraft like this one you see had close encounters with multiple russian jets flying over the mediterranean sea last weekend. the u.s. planes were in international waters at the time of the intercepts akoefrding to the pentagon. we have made our concerns known to russian officials through diplomatic channels. while no one was hurt, interactions such as these could result in miscalculations and mistakes that lead to more dangerous outcomes. as you know, tensions are

already high. russia released video that it says shows russian troops packing up and moving tanks away from crimea, but the u.s. says there's no evidence that russia is really de-escalating. here is secretary of state antony blinken on "morning joe." >> well, there's what russia says and then there's what russia does. we haven't seen any pullback of its forces. they remain massed in a very threatening way along ukraine's borders. >> nato agrees. the secretary told reporters in brussels earlier today that russia is likely doing the exact opposite, instead building up its military at the border. moscow hasn't exactly been forthcoming about how many troops it claims were pulled back and where those troops would be going, if they were going in where. as "the new york times" reports, mr. putin's calculus is likely shifting as he weighs the changing costs of an invasion and he assesses what he could get from negotiations. several officials note that mr. putin has a history of waiting

until the last possible moment to make a decision, constantly re-evaluating his options. joining me now while. well, these intercepts, they generally are deemed safe and professional. this one was deemed unprofessional by the u.s. military. as you said, katy, it's not just

that. it's the fact that this comes amidst everything else that's going on right now with russia, when tensions are so high. we just learned about this today. there were three u.s. navy p-8 poseidons. in this case they were flying over the mediterranean but were very specifically in international airspace when these russian fighter jets approached them in this unprofessional manner. because this is happening at the time when the u.s. and so many nato allies are watching and waiting to see what vladimir putin does in ukraine, if he decides to actually invade or not, it's just really ratcheted up the tensions here. again, it's important to point out to our viewers that this is something that the safe and professional intercepts like this do happen relatively often between these militaries. >> so, matt, we've been watching the russian handout video of tanks moving. russia has said it is moving some of its troops out of the

areas, out of crimea, but nato and the u.s. say they have seen no evidence that they are actually de-escalating in any way. what are you hearing out of moscow? >> reporter: thank , it basical the same situation. we haven't really heard a specific claim of a scaledown from the kremlin. i suppose you could say it's difficult to declare a withdrawal of troops that you've never acknowledged in the first place. now, those handouts you mentioned showed three divisions that were showed to be on exercise in crimea, so that is south of ukraine, right? all three of those divisions we can see were moving somewhere from crimea. one of those divisions is the 42nd motor rifle division. that's based in chechnya, so fine, it is moving away. when you look at the other two, the third and 150th motor rifle division, those are actually based very close to the border to the east of ukraine. when you hear officials say that

russia is mostly just shifting troops, it appears to very much be the case. now of course we're still waiting to get a sense of any kind of larger scale movements. there is continued evidence on social media of heavy russian equipment arriving. one of staging areas for those groupings along the russian/ukrainian border. so far we're not seeing any evidence of a drawback. we need to wait for satellite photos over a course of days, weeks even, to get a sense of where all this stuff is flowing. but so far not looking like a real drawback. they have been very nondescript about what is moving. what little information we have shows not much and it's a shift. >> andrea, national security officials as "washington post" first reported are gaming out scenarios called tiger games. you got a look at what this actually is. can you explain? >> well, for years some of these

former officials who have been in previous administrations have been doing these kinds of tabletop exercises in preparation for crises. here you've got a real crisis, so the biden white house was doing exactly that, at least twice that "the washington post" reported on and updating these with possible scenarios. so we were relying on a nonprofit think tank, silverado policy accelerator, and they came up with scenarios that were very similar to what's really happening now in the run-up to a possible invasion and how to counter that, how to deter it. here's what happened with some big names from former national security councils at the table. inside our situation room, the exercise begins with a russian false flag attack in eastern ukraine to create a pretext to invade. at the table former joint chiefs chairman, retired admiral mike

mullen. former undersecretary of defense, michelle fornoy. david petraeus. cyber expert dimitri alperavic, and former national security advisor tom donnelin. >> our goals should be to build out a case here that is clear to putin as to what the cost is going to be for action that he might take here. >> we should be communicating to individuals in moscow that life is going to be very, very tough for you if you go into ukraine. you may be able to get all the way, you might even push the government out of kyiv, but at the end of the day, we're going to make life hell for you if that is the case. >> and that's exactly the kind of very tough warning that was laid out in the president's speech yesterday, which these officials were all saying we need to do. that is what the president is doing. that's what the current officials clearly know is the only way to deter is to threaten

sanctions, to threaten punishment, to tell them that there are going to be costs. last week wendy sherman said not a typical wendy sherman comment, putin has to realize there are going to be body bags coming back to moscow. that's when we first started seeing these very strong warnings. in the lester holt interview of course with the president himself. and jake sullivan in the white house briefing room. so that is what they're trying to do and keep the negotiations going. keep people going to moscow and keep him engaged, because as long as they are talking, they're not firing shots. katy. >> as long as they are talking, they are not firing shots. andrea mitchell, thank you so much, matt bodner, thank you as well and courtney kube. joining me now is michael mcfaul, and form national deputy advisor ben rhodes. so ben, i want to begin with you. earlier today the undersecretary

of state for political affairs, victoria neuland, was on another channel and talking about why vladimir putin might respond to sanctions now when he hasn't responded so much in the past. she said the sanctions would be absolutely crushing for russia in terms of russia's ability to grow its economy and modernize going forward. we've heard over and over again that nato is just absolutely on the same page when it comes to this in a way that not many would have expected at the start of this conflict in its alliance and will, frankly, to make sure that russia feels pain if russia goes into ukraine. what would those sanctions look like? what makes a sanction or a set of sanctions crushing for russia? >> well, i think when you listen to president biden and other officials in his administration, what they're considering are a range of things. number one, export controls. what that means is that the

united states prevents the export to russia of certain key technologies that they rely upon for everything from their defense sector to their technology sector to the smartphone. second, you've heard them talking about sanctioning some of the largest russian banks, which would essentially cut off russia from the capacity to transact in u.s. dollars, cut them off from elements of the global financial system. and then you hear about really targeted sanctions focused on putin and his inner circle that goes after their personal wealth and wealth they may be hiding in other parts of the world. there's a lot of russian wealth, for instance, in london. so this would be a significant consequence for the russian economy. the reality too is that the russian economy has taken a hit over the last seven years from the sanctions that they faced over the annexation of crimea as well. so what you're talking about is not a guarantee that this will affect vladimir putin's calculus. he's priced in sanctions in the past. he's also created over $600 billion in reserves, essentially

a rainy day fund probably meant to mitigate against sanctions. putin will probably turn to china to try to mitigate the effect of western sanctions as well. but in the absence of the u.s. being engaged militarily in ukraine, it's the best tool that we have to affect his calculus and make it clear to him that russia would be a loser in this war. frankly we all would too. the ukrainians more than anyone else would suffer and this level of sanctions would undoubtedly create pressure on the u.s. and europe economies as well, which biden was cautioning people about yesterday. >> ambassador, should we read anything into what courtney kube was just reporting about those close encounters over the mediterranean? >> don't read too much. i think she did a great job of explaining it. but i think it also underscores what happens when there's war or you're on the precipice of war. a lot of things happen that you don't expect. there are accidents, there are incidents, unpredictable things

happen. if vladimir putin decides to launch an aerial campaign to bomb major cities in ukraine, ukrainians will die. by the way, so will ethnic russians, but so will other americans and europeans that have decided to stay there. there will be an action/reaction that comes with that. there could be people leaving the country, maybe even soldiers leaving the country. if it's a full-scale invasion, ukrainian armed forces might leave the country. they might show up in a nato-allied country. i don't want to get ahead of our skis. these are low level probabilities. i don't know if putin has made a decision to invade or not, and i don't believe anybody who claims they know the answer to that question. but when you have conflict, unintended things do happen. >> what about the virtual meeting that you were speaking at today, the virtual hearing, talking about putin's end game, his long-term goals. what can you share about that? >> two things i was struck by. i live here in california. i don't live in washington.

i was struck by how polarized our congress is, and when we talk about weakness, that's one of our weaknesses right now. we do not look strong when we argue with each other about what we should be doing or blaming the other side for what crisis we're in. that was my first comment. second comment, you know, i think people underestimate putin's long game. you know, i think what they have done and ben really eloquently laid it out. what the biden administration has done to get ready for sanctions sounds like it will be something historic. i also want to remind you, putin doesn't think in cost benefit analysis. he's not worried about his stock price next week. he thinks he's on a historic mission to right the wrongs of the collapse of the soviet union, to bring the slovic nation together. when you're thinking in those terms, you're not worried about short-term costs. the other thing i want to point out, when we say -- i think you

quoted ambassador neuland. she said russia will suffer these costs. well, let's be careful about that. russia as a whole society will, but putin personally will not. i think that's a very important thing to remember. russia is an autocracy today, not a democracy, so sanctions take a long time to have an effect in big economies that are run by autocratic leaders. >> and it's not exactly like the russian people can vote him out of office if they're unhappy with his decision-making. there's also -- in just reading up about what vladimir putin is angry about and the history of it, the idea that nato had promised not to move eastward. he feels like nato has moved eastward and is bordering and threatening russia. there's a missile tracking system, a military base in poland. a missile tracking system and interceptor rocket base. putin is not happy about this. he feels as if it is somewhat a threat to his sovereignty, to

russian sovereignty and safety and security. ben, what is that base? why do we need that base there? >> well, the reality is that the united states has a significant presence in poland because of nato. and what is really antagonized vladimir putin is two things. one is any missile defense system that has any hardware in eastern europe or frankly that could in any way compromise russia's capacity to have essentially a deterrent against the united states. they want parity in terms of not having a missile defense that takes away their capacity to really use a cold war term to ensure mutual destruction. why are those bases there? they're there in part to ensure our eastern european allies against russian aggression. there's been an increase in the presence of u.s. forces in nato

deployments in eastern europe since the annexation of crimea and the russian incursion into eastern ukraine in 2014. in part because it's important to reassure those allies that not only is hardware there, but there are americans on the ground. that is seen as an assurance that we really mean what we say when we say we'll come to your defense. i think to step back from this, katy, one of the things that's so complicated here is that the u.s. is willing to talk about those kinds of things. when you hear president biden say we'll talk about missile deployments in eastern europe, we'll talk about military exercises, transparency around those things, that's the conversation that the u.s. is willing to have. what vladimir putin is trying to do as mike suggested is bigger than that. he's trying to undo the entire security architecture of the post cold war world which means no more nato enlargement, nato pulling back all of its forces along the east. that's a much bigger strategic shift than what the u.s. has been willing to negotiate. it is that gap that is preventing diplomacy from

averting this crisis right now. >> to that point, undersecretary neuland also said that putin has a revengist fantasy about rebuilding the former soviet union, whether it includes ukraine, belarus and moldova and that will throw the world back into a cold war posture. gentlemen, i'm going to have to leave it here today or there today. thank you so much for joining us. coming up next hour, a state department spokesperson, ned price, will join my colleague hallie jackson at 3:00 p.m. eastern right here on msnbc. still ahead, 15. that is how many days the national archives has to hand over donald trump's white house visitor logs after president biden rejected the former president's request to block the records release. plus, it has been a confusing time for all of us. should we wear masks? should we not? the cdc now working on new guidance about when is right. and later, a new report from noaa warning that sea levels are

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there are two significant developments in the house investigation into the january 6th attack on the capitol. the first, president biden has rejected efforts from former president trump to withhold additional documents from the january 6 committee. in a letter obtained by nbc news, biden has ordered the national archives to turn over trump white house visitor logs that the committee was seeking. in light of the urgency of the committee's work, the logs should be turned over within 15 days. the national archives says it will deliver the documents by march 3rd unless a court order instructs them not to. second, a new round of subpoenas the january 6th wants to speak to six people who they say, who the committee says, organized alternate electors to challenge

joe biden's victory in 2020. joining me now is nbc news white house correspondent mike memoli and jake sherman. so these visitor logs, mike, what might they tell us? >> obviously the white house and the january 6th select committee is very interested in seeing what kind of foot traffic was going through the white house on that day. there's a lot of consideration about who was potentially meeting with the president as he -- the former president, i should say, as he was watching these events unfold. but now what's interesting about this, katy, is we first reported last october that the biden white house's posture on these record requests, which was that this constitutional consideration of executive privilege in their view should not apply to the former president when the very issue that's being investigated is an effort to subvert the constitution itself. so at first glance the letter that we saw today from the white house counsel is not a new position from this administration. what's significant about this letter, though, is the timeline.

in the past there has been a 30-day request for these documents to be provided from the national archives to the committee. reamus in her letter today shrinks that in half to 15 days, which just underscores the fact that the committee itself wants its hands on these documents as soon as possible because they're facing a timeline crunch to conclude their work before we get into the midterm campaign mode and the report would be certainly that much more politicized in that process. the other thing that's significant is this is a different category of documents altogether. previously the privilege claims that had been waived by the biden white house for president trump on issues related to, you know, the presidential records, other documents that the committee had already requested, having visitor logs is a new front in this as well. >> jake, what about the subpoenas that the january 6 committee wants from these alternate electors. >> this is another effort to try to get to the core of who -- first of all, who was planning this effort to try to subvert

the election, the effort that was thankfully unsuccessful, and who was behind it money-wise. and if you look at the letters, they do leave kind of trails, katy, of what they know and what they're seeking to know and that is an effort to entice people to come and speak to the committee. but again, every time someone is subpoenaed to this committee, it's important to keep in mind that if they cooperate, if they don't -- if they aren't no-shows then they could still claim the fifth, invoke their fifth amendment rights in front of the committee in their testimony or furthermore they could just not be helpful to the committee when they're called. so, again, this committee has interviewed 525 i think nbc has reported and we have reported, 525 people. many of those people, i would venture to say the majority probably of those people were not subpoenaed, they have come in voluntarily and told what they knew about the events of

january 6th. so just another round of subpoenas and it's the ultimate question which is when are we going to get to the public phase of this investigation. we're on the doorstep of march here. they have suggested that in the spring or in the summer they'll get to committee hearings and start revealing some of what they have learned. >> you took my second question right out of my mouth. so we still don't know when they're going to start revealing this stuff. how much urgency does this committee feel? i imagine quite a lot considering the midterms are coming up and there's a question of whether the committee will exist after these midterms. >> well, let's assume republicans take the majority, just if we're gambling, that's what history tells us. again, we don't know that for a fact. but if republicans take the majority, this committee will not exist in its current form, that's 100% certain. i would have to imagine that if it does exist, it will exist to probe what republicans consider is an ill-conceived, i guess,

security footing at the capitol on january 6th and why nancy pelosi did not bring police in their view sooner. again, there's no real grounding in what they say on this. but that's how they view the incident. >> jake, let's hope it comes out sooner than later because both of us have a busy, busy summer ahead of us. >> 34 fish shows. >> mike memoli, thank you so much. jake sherman, my friend, my friend, see you soon. hundreds of people sue hertz, claiming they were arrested or jailed for stealing cars they rented. a man who is still in jail right at this moment will join me by phone to talk about those charges from his jail cell. first we'll go to virginia where after today mask mandates for schools will be banned. man for schools will be banned ♪3, 4♪ ♪

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as cities and states revise or cancel mask mandates, the cdc is taking another look at its own guidance. here was director, dr. rochelle

walensky, at this morning's covid briefing. >> we know that you have many questions regarding what prevention strategies are really necessary for this moment, especially as people are so eager to remove them. we want to give people a break from things like mask wearing, when these metrics are better. >> meanwhile, in virginia, governor glenn youngkin is going a step further. he is expected to sign a bill this afternoon banning mask mandates in schools. nbc news correspondent heidi przybyla joins me now. so an outright ban. so if you want to wear a mask to school, are you allowed to wear it or you just can't force kids to wear it. >> reporter: it's that the school cannot tell kids to wear it but the kids can choose to wear it. it's really an example, katy, of the local power struggles that will be playing out all across the country as we set the new rules of etiquette and health around living with endemic covid. now, this is also going to play

out in the courts. the courts will have the final say here. katy, we talked to mothers on both sides of the legal question here. first you're going to hear from tasha whose son has cystic fibrosis and she says this is a blatant violation of the americans with disabilities act and that removing that power from local school boards could put her son's life at risk. and then you're going to hear from stephanie, who says that her kids were suspended for wearing -- not wearing masks when they had every right to and that we're not considering the downside of masks. >> for kids like mine, when other children take their masks off, it creates a barrier. jack heard the news about the executive order on the radio and he looked at me with big tears in his eyes and he said, mom, does that mean i'm not going to get to go to school anymore? >> i absolutely think this should be 100% of the time a parents' choice issue. i find it really interesting, my heart really goes out to the people who are in a circumstance where their children have some

kind of condition which makes them more vulnerable to respiratory viruses, but i think this isn't the first respiratory virus we've ever faced. >> reporter: now, the first mother said she wants to make clear she's saying kids should be in masks all the time, she's just saying in periods of surge that the school should be able to protect students like her son, that he shouldn't be segregated, whereas the other mother says that this has become a political statement and that she's worried that if parents don't have the control, that they will never be unmasked, even in lower periods of spread, katy. >> heidi, thank you so much. and last week, we interviewed a man who spent seven months in prison after he says rental car company hertz falsely accused him of stealing a car he says he rented and paid for. he has since been released. now he is among 230 plaintiffs who are now suing hertz, alleging the same, that they were falsely arrested for

renting cars lawfully. newly released court documents that hertz fought to keep secret show the company files roughly 3,365 police reports for stolen cars against its customers every year. today we speak to a new hampshire man who is currently in jail, arrested while on a cruise ship in florida by customs and border patrol, accused of stealing a hertz car he says he rented and paid for. joining me now is attorney francis alexander malfee and his client, charles doucet, who is with us by phone from jail. thank you for joining us. mr. doucet, i know that you're on speaker right now through your lawyer. can you tell me what exactly happened? >> thanks for having me. anyway so i was arrested on a cruise ship. i was supposed to come down and they verified my name and my

social, there was a warrant out for my arrest. when i asked for more information they told me it was something out of arizona. i knew immediately it was this hertz situation. i've been a customer of hertz for many years. i spent over $15,000 a year. i've been a great customer to them. use them for business, correctly through the app. never had a problem. they have always been paid for their rentals and they were paid for their rental this time and the car was reported stolen the same day the payment was actually made. i wasn't notified they reported it stolen until about five days after that. >> mr. doucette, you're one of a number of people suing hertz, represented by mr. malfee here. we talked to a man the other day in jail for seven months.

hertz did get back to us with some information on your case and they say that the car that you rented was due back on november 29th but didn't get back to them many, many days, weeks later. they also said they tried to reach you 40 times between december 3rd and december 17, 2020, and sent you multiple emails that you never responded to. what do you say to that? >> let me comment there. hertz, including their legal team, are confused with information that is false, with police reports that are false and they're giving false, misleading and inaccurate information. they admitted there are inaccuracies in the reporting but are doing nothing about it. they apparently believe that mr. doucette had a driver's license from alabama. the man has never been to alabama. in fact he's only had a driver's license from new hampshire and his first driver's license was from maine. so they're working off of false

facts. they know these are false facts. i told them it was false facts. they still refuse to release or at least withdraw the police report so he can be released. mr. doucette has missed super bowl sunday, he's missed his birthday, which is today. happy birthday, mr. doucette. >> thank you. >> and he missed valentine's day yesterday. you know, when you talk about a bankrupt corporate culture, the name that comes up is hertz. they need to fix this. they need to fix their false information and fix their false narrative because they have a problem and it needs to be addressed or more people will come forward, as they are. >> mr. doucette, when are you going to be out of prison? what happens next? >> well, let me clarify a couple of things here. i want to make one thing very clear. the information that was given to you by hertz, i'm not going to comment too far on that except for the fact of they reported the vehicle stolen in march of the following year. so if there wasn't some type of

communication issue within their internal system how can they run a car with a potential return date go over three months or four months later before they report the car stolen. normally that would happen as soon as they realize there's an inventory issue or a car hasn't been returned. so if i didn't extend the rental the first few times, how would it go all the way to march. this shows that there's so many inaccuracies. unfortunately, it's the valuable business customers that are suffering. i'm sitting in jail horrified. i have no criminal record. i've never been in trouble with the law in my life. i'm in a completely different world and my business is going to be bankrupt by the time i get out of here because we don't have a set date. i couldn't post the bail or a bond if i wanted to because there isn't one. i'm waiting on extradition to arizona and i have to follow the laws and the timeline that they

have. i'm in a situation where no matter what i do, no matter how much money i have, no matter how my team works, i'm stuck here losing my business and watching my outside life deplete while i sit and wait and can do nothing about it. i lost the super bowl with my friends, i lost valentine's day with my girlfriend and i'm losing my birthday today, all because of a situation that i am not at fault for. and all i would be willing to do is have a day in court but i can't even do that because i can't get out of here. it's miserable. it's degrading, it's unacceptable, it's horrible. i can't believe that any company is allowing this to happen to anybody, let alone the best of their customers. >> charles doucette we thank you for joining us and especially under these circumstances where you have to call in from prison or from jail to your lawyer to speak to us. you know, i hesitate to wish you happy birthday because clearly

it is not a happy birthday. i do want to read a statement from hertz. it's a similar statement that they have given us in the past. they say that they care deeply about our customers and as we have previously said, successfully provides rental vehicles for tens of millions of travelers each year. the vast majority of these cases are renters who are weeks or months overdue returning vehicles and have stopped communicating with us well beyond the scheduled due date. they said only 0.014% fall into the rare situation where vehicles are reported to the authorities. okay. mr. malfee, thank you for joining us. mr. doucette, thank you as well. again, one of 230 people currently suing hertz for these false reports they say. and dramatic flooding and economic hardship inside a new report that warns sea levels are rising at an alarming pace, putting 40% of the united states at risk. all of those low-level areas, i'm looking at you, miami.

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noaa predicts. miami in particular might look like in 2050. look at all of that land lost. with an additional foot of water around its coasts. places like texas, noaa believes, sea levels could be a foot and a half higher than current levels. again, this is the prediction for 2050. the new report by noaa also finds that sea levels are already rising by alarming rates and the report suggests those sea levels will rise more in the next 30 years than they did across the entire 20th century. joining me now is michael mann, penn state distinguished professor and director of their earth system science center. he's also the author of "the new climate war." michael, it is really good to see you. it has been far too long, my friend. this new report by noaa, we're often looking for specifics. it's hard for science to predict what's going to happen

specifically. but looking at a foot of sea level rise by 2050 which is still in most of our lifetimes and what it's going to do to a place like miami, it's pretty shocking. >> yeah, katy, it is great to be back with you. and this is, you know, a sobering report, there's no question about it. there is some increased confidence. we have more observations, more data, we're measuring what's happening with these ice sheets, with these collapsing ice shelves. our models, our climate models are more comprehensive. they better handle some of the complex physics of how ice behaves in these ice sheets. and because of all of that, we have quite a bit more confidence now and what we can say is that, yeah, there's about a foot of additional sea level rise by mid-century, just a few decades down the road, that baked in. that's going to happen. we can't really do anything about that. we're going to need to adapt to those impacts that are baked in. but the fact remains that we can

prevent the worst. we're committed maybe to a foot of sea level rise here by the middle of the century, but we can prevent meters of sea level rise from ultimately taking place where we would see vast inundation around the world and catastrophic consequences. so yeah, some bad stuff is locked in. we're going to need to adapt to that and reduce our -- the suffering that results from that. but at the same time, we can prevent the worst by cutting carbon emissions rapidly. >> so i feel a little bit like we are being shown exactly what's going to happen in the future. not exactly, we're shown an idea of what could happen at the future. it's like we're looking up at the sky and seeing a comet coming towards us, like that movie that just came out. there's a good portion of the population that says yeah, i see it, it's coming. we've got to do something about it. and there's a solid portion of the population that refuses to see it. and there's a portion that sees

it, wants to do something but doesn't want to disrupt their lives as they currently stand. how do you not -- how do you not get really cynical and really depressed, michael? >> yeah. well, you know, the film is "don't look up" but in this case we've got one of our two major parties that doesn't want to look down. they don't want to look down at the warming of the ocean and the sea level rise that's already having disastrous impacts on red states, like florida, which is seeing some of the worst consequences. so yeah, it is frustrating. for those of us who watched the film, you know, "don't look up," it was both -- it was amusing, at the same time very sort of disconcerting because we are facing this. we are facing a politically motivated belief system that denies this catastrophe that is

unfolding in realtime. not as quickly as the comet that strikes the planet in the film, but quickly enough that we're seeing these devastating consequences, these floods that now occur far more often along the east coast, sunny day flooding where it doesn't even take a storm now to flood the streets of miami beach and other cities along the u.s. east coast. so it is happening. that comet is arriving in slow motion and we have to do something about it strikes. >> and i know it is a satire, it is a comedy. adam mckay is a funny guy but there is so much truth that i found it to be a bit of a horror movie, michael, i have to say. got a little mad at my husband last night for making me watch it because i just wanted to go to bed thinking happy thoughts. i want to put my head in the sand which is probably the wrong thing to do. michael mann, good to see you. please come back soon. >> thank you.

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threatening start of the baseball season. talk about things bumming me out lately, guys. a dispute between the owners an the players' union has delayed spring training and financially impacting host cities. kerry sanders is at roger dean stadium in jupiter, florida, it is the spring training home of both the cardinal and the marlins. >> reporter: if all were normal in the world, pitchers an catchers would be showing up for pre-season today. instead, as you could see, as we look over, it is empty. no players, no catchers, no fans. that is because of an ongoing contract dispute that is not only delayed the pitchers and catchers, but has also put the early preseason games in jeopardy. the crack of the bat, and the pop of the mitt. familiar sounds that signal the start of another baseball season.

but this year spring training delayed, pitchers and catcher those where to be found. the clash has fans of america's passtime crying foul. >> it is devastating. >> the dispute resulting in a lockout, now in its third month. it is amajor league setback, not just for baseball, but for communities across florida and arizona that depend on the financial injection from the teams and their die-hard fans. >> they eat in our restaurants and stay in our hotels and as it stands right now, we just don't know if any of those folks will be in this area this spring. >> reporter: in lea county, florida, where the twins and red sox plays, spring train visitors spent nearly $69 million pre-pandemic. >> this is the third spring training season that we're kind of going through this. in 2020 it was effective but the start of covid, 2021, stadiums weren't at full capacity.

>> reporter: spring training is unique. fans have much better access to favorite stars than they do during the regular season. >> we have the chance to meet players up close and personal. >> reporter: for the last three years richard and his 15-year-old son reed have escaped the freezing cold in milwaukee to toasty arizona to watch their home town team, the brewers. but now the father/son trip canceled. >> do you care about this dispute? >> no. i don't care. i'm not going to pick sides. i'm on the side of the fans here, right. we're the only ones who are really losing out. >> reporter: the current lackout is the league's first labor dispute since the 1994 strike that canceled the world series. at the center of this dispute, money. baseball is a multi-billion dollars business and while blockbuster contracts make headlines, most mlb playersern substantially less.

the minimum starting baseball salary at just over half a million dollars, far less when compared to the nfl, the nhl, and the nba. sports fanatics gist saw the super bowl and the olympics coming to an end. will they have baseball? >> spring training so going to be delayed an the question is now whether opening day will be delayed. >> where do we go from here. major league baseball presented a new offer to the players includes significant improvements but so far the players association has not responded publicly. >> the three most beautiful words you could hear, post new year's is pitchers and catchers and to not hear it because of the lock yout, it is hard to take. it is cold out there. we all need a bit of sunshine even if it is just sunshine knowing that spring is coming and baseball is coming. we'll have to wait a little

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