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the call centers on voter confusion. if we reject their application or ballot, their opportunities to vote are dwindling. >> many voters are not going to be able to get their votes counted in time is the concern, chuck. >> and the consequences of more government intervention in a process that perhaps did not need anymore government intervention. thank you. we'll be back tomorrow with more "meet the press daily." coverage continues with katy tur. >> good afternoon. this afternoon biden told reporters russia could invade ukrain, in, quote, the next few days. blinken made a last-minute stop to layout exactly what the u.s.
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thinks russia is doing, putting u.s. intelligence out in the open in the hopes of exposing russian plans will alert war. >> russia has amassed more than 150,000 troops around ukraine's borders and our information indicates clearly that these forces, including ground troops, aircraft, ships, are preparing to launch an attack against ukraine in the coming days. we don't know how precisely how things will play out, but here's what the world can expect to see unfold. in fact, it's unfolding right now. first, russia plans to manufacture a pretext for its attack. this could be a violent event that russia will blame on ukraine or an outrageous accusation that russia will level against the ukrainian government. we don't know what form it will take, and it could be a
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fabricated, quote, terrorists bombing in russia, a drone strike against civilians or a fake or even a real attack using chemical weapons. next the attack is planned to begin. russell missiles and bombs will drop across ukraine, and communications will be jammed and cyberattacks will shutdown key ukrainian institutions. after that, russian tanks and soldiers will advance on key targets that have already been identified and mapped out in detailed plans. here today we are laying it out in great detail, in the hopes that sharing what we know to the world russia would choose a different path while there's still time. >> we don't usually hear that much detail. secretary blinken said a biden administration official said
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another 7,000 russian troops have been added to the ukrainian border over the last few days. that's on top of the already 150,000 troops, the u.s. says, have been in place. video and pictures provided by the ukrainian military showed the hole in the wall of a kin -- kindergarten classroom. president zelensky.
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i do want to start with you, erin, and i want to ask you this, what is it like there in kyiv right now? >> reporter: well, katy, i have been texting some of my contacts here in kyiv and all of them seem resolute in the face of the dire assessment from secretary blinken. i was messaging a activist and she said the speech was strong, and a former adviser said it was a fair assessment of the situation given everything we know so far. he said he was particularly concerned when secretary blinken said we have information that indicates russia will target specific groups of ukrainians, and he said he was concerned about that and he said it seems to be vladimir putin dream to have pro ukrainian voices only, and he was concern about what that statement could mean for
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him, saying it's our land, it's our home, we stay and fight if we have to, plain and simple. and also the former defense minister said he knew nothing new from the speech, what he has seen on the ground, he believes escalation is high as well as the situation in the black sea, he's extremely concerned about escalation, and in his assessment he does not believe there's a risk of a full-scale invasion at this time and he has maintained for weeks now that russia does not have enough troops amassed along the borders for a full-scale, but he is concerned about the black sea. >> blinken was very detailed in
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what he believes, the united states believes what russia is doing right now, and it's not just the united states, i listened to a british diplomat and he was saying much of the same. what are you hearing in moscow right now? >> reporter: we have heard all kinds of things today. the day began with the official of the defense ministry resolutely saying and claiming that all forces doing exercises will return, and they only named units belonging to those that have a lot of basing infrastructure close to ukraine for obvious reasons. we are not hearing anything about the groupings of concern, for example, the 41st combined arms army in through the military district in siberia,
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and those are along the ukrainian border, and overnight we saw a new set of commercial satellite imagery and it showed different movements, the southern and the western, and the grouping concern on the eastern border of ukraine mobilized for something. they saw evidence of convoy formation but no movement yet. there's weird messaging out of moscow. the weird thing that stuck out to me later in the day -- you said today feels different and i agree, and russia delivered its writen reresponse, and it was
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striking to read it. it was if there's negotiation, if there is diplomacy, it's because you will meet every one of our demands, all of these off-ramps and other proposals you have thrown at us, we will not talk unless we get what we want, and the window of diplomacy might be closing. it's hard to interpret. everything we see today in moscow went the other way, and then we see the satellite images. >> courtney, we keep hearing the next several days, and there was intelligence about an attack happening a couple days ago, and are there any other whispers? >> the whispers we were hearing was not a specific date, but a window that opens and extends, and that was a window for when
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action could begin. for several weeks now we are hearing about information that builds an assessment, a military intelligence assessment, and that includes things like they continue to flow troops towards the border, and they are bringing in the advanced capabilities, something they don't bring in for an exercise, and it's expensive, and it leaves areas that are exposed when they pull large numbers of troops out, and there's the logistics support, and we heard from lloyd austin in brussels, he talks about how they are bringing more blood in as a potential for casualties, and when you add that up, that yields an assessment that vladimir putin is moving closer and closer towards a large-scale invasion. what seems to have changed in the last several days is there
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seems to be more certainty about it, and intelligence officials are rarely, if ever, going to tell us why they feel the certainty and it tends to be they have more specific information that might lead them to believe vladimir putin has made a decision. we are still hearing they are not 100% he has made a decision or not, and putin has been known to make a decision at the last minute and it's plausible he could turn the entire operation off, and again, that's not something we are hearing as much of in the last several days. more and more officials i am speaking with feel he has made the decision to invade. again, the missiles they are bringing and are preparing, that's one that i am hearing a lot about in the past couple of days, a lot of concern about them, but they are also moving the russian troops closer and closer toward the border and providing them with ammunition, and they are getting them ready
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if there's an invasion, the troops are ready and there's 150,000 of them along the border. that's why everybody is pointing towards more likelihood of an invasion. >> the olympics end, i believe, on tuesday. any word from our intelligence services or the pentagon on whether they think that vladimir putin might wait until after the olympics? i know that's been an open question. >> it's been an open question, and it goes into the assessment, people believe because of his relationship with president xi, he doesn't want to embarrass him on the world stage. if there's an invasion, he will turn to china for money. there's an assessment, and the officials i spoke with said there's no intelligence that backs up putin decided to wait until after the olympics, and it's the assessment or analysis
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of what he might do. the officials i am speaking with are looking at this through a western lens of what they might do, what the u.s. military might do. the big factor is what will vladimir putin do. if they know what he's going to do, it's really just guessing. >> courtney, thank you so much. matt, thank you as well, and erin mclaughlin, stay safe out there. joining me is a general. thank you so much. feels like russia and the u.s. is at an impasse right now, and the west is not going to say yes to that. what do you do? >> i think that we continue -- thank you for having me. this is, frankly, for a lot of
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us old russian hands. a lot of us tried to work hard to build credible bridges but this is beyond the pale of what is happening right now. again, as i have tried to say, it's hard to negotiate in good faith where somebody is holding basically a shotgun at your face. that's what this buildup is, and whether it's designed as pressure or something for real, all the options are there. you asked a question about the next several days and a possible invasion. not only is the beijing olympics ending on tuesday, but this is also when the russian belarusian exercise is ending, and they say they are leaving and won't remain. and you have a number of forces in the black sea, including
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landing ships that came over from the baltics, and i saw them and they are menacing. that's going on. they have the forces moving back and forth and all that, and they are doing tactical level-type getting ready stuff. yes, some have rolled off. last thing, those of us 2014 hands, including much of the administration remember the deception that went into crimea and then the, if you will, proxy infiltration after crimea's illegal annexation. we have seen this play out before. it's very worrisome. there's a lot of menace, and the russians are putting themselves in a long-term bind and i hope
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there are a lot of people watching. >> what does russia do with ukraine? if they invade and take over ukraine, what does vladimir putin do with ukraine? >> first of all, i agree while the forces are considerably, they are not of the huge half million more troop density security force -- they brought up the national guard assets behind to do an occupation, and the question is what is the scale? do you drive down from belarus and go up the river -- which is a big chunk. think, friends, the river -- as the mississippi is for us, that is what it is to ukraine. still, a major military operation, and a major
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occupation issue especially when you have a lot of ukrainians, both military and civilians that are going to resist in various ways. lastly, they will go in if they do that, and then there will be a whole ring of european nations, going at them diplomatically, sanctions, support, weapons, and this is hard and the russians have to take a deep step and back up. if they go, it will be hard. also, yes, they have over match in the countryside, and they can move fast but now you have to go after large cities and they are meat grinders for conventional forces no matter how they try in the initial phase send in
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special operations, cyber, and everything we have been reading about. >> thank you so much for joining us. this will not be the last time we talk given that things do not seem to be drawn down, at least not right now. thank you. >> thank you. still ahead, donald trump under oath. going to court to try and force trump's testimony. then the state of the union message in ohio, what he had to say about the state of our economy. and then just months into 2022, there are hundreds of reports of unruly passengers. could an industry-wide no fly list solve the problem? the prom we can explore uncharted waters, and not only make new discoveries, but get there faster, with better outcomes. with app, cloud and anywhere workspace solutions,
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a judge in new york is hearing arguments in the new york attorney general's mid to force testimony from donald trump. letitia james asked the court to
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enforce her subpoenas for donald trump and several of his adult children as part of her investigation into the trump family business. today's hearing could ultimately determine whether they will all have to sit for depositions under oath. joining me now is tom winter. it's always good to have you. what is the latest on this? when should we hear from the judge? what does it mean we are at the point when we are trying to force depositions? >> yeah, we will find out within the hour. the judge will file an opinion and it will be made public on the new york state's public website, and that should be around 3:00, and that's when he said he would make a ruling on this. i believe from there it will be immediately stayed and go to the appellant court. the arguments from the donald trump family is letitia james while campaigning said she would
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go after donald trump and continue the investigation. two, we have had an ongoing criminal investigation, so why do we want any testimony under oath, and if he is called to testify, he can assert his fifth amendment rights and the judge noted his son did it over 500 times. we will see what happens within the hour. long-term to what you were asking me, which is where are we actually going with this? when you talk to the people are investigating, that's typically the end of any investigation, criminal, civil, whatever it may be. we have been told this is on the civil investigation by the new york attorney general, kind of the last step here. once this is decided, we will know when this is going? >> why would donald trump not
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want to sit for a deposition if he can plead the fifth 500 times like his son did? >> because then people will talk about how he plead the fifth 500 times. in a civil case in the state of new york, you can tell the jury how many times they asserted the fifth amendment privilege and show the jury which questions they were asked, and that is why the number of 500 with eric trump, it could be important. >> it does make you think a certain way when you plead the fifth 500 times. locke was killed earlier this month as officers were executing a no-knock warrant. the 22-year-old was not the subject of the warrant. the officer-involved was put on
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what we are hearing from election workers on the ground is if they have a voter asking them questions and wanting to do mail-in, they say just do it in person and they don't trust the mail-in process right now. this came because of the sb-1 law, and it got rid of two options where a lot of people work atypical and long work hours. it added more freedoms and movements for partisan poll watchers and that concerns people there could be intimidation or confrontation at the polls. a lot of the people that use these ballots, it's the elderly, and the requirement is you add under the flip information, your id or social security information in this very fine print here, and voters need to provide here exactly what they
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gave the government the first time they registered to vote here. if you are an elderly person mailing in your ballot you may not remember the number you used to vote 20 or 30 years ago, and that's what is contributing to the astonishing 40%. take a listen to my conversation with the administer here. >> if you are not checking off you need a mail ballot if you are over 65, and this signature down here at the bottom, anyone of these set you back at the beginning and that's just the application, and then you have the mail ballot. >> reporter: now their message to folks if you are still calling into the call center with questions and do not know if your ballot was received, be
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proactive, and we met a voter that said she is eligible to use voting by mail, she came in because she trusts this process right now. >> it's hard to remember what number you used, it's hard to forget those things -- it's very easy to forget, that's what i meant. thank you. president biden tried out his state of the union message on ohio, and he talked about the inflation and touted the benefits of the biden infrastructure law. >> we're investing in our economy and in our people. we're claiming our leadership and creating millions of jobs for building a better america. that's what we are going to do. >> part of this new economic focus will be an emphasis on
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what officials view as his political asset. joining me now is chris coons of delaware, and he's a member of the judiciary committee and foreign relations committee. there's good economic numbers out there. retail numbers are good, and unemployment is very low and also really good. i was talking to an economists, and they were saying forget about the unemployment number right now, because if unemployment was larger it would only affect those not employed, and the real problem right now is inflation, that affects everybody. how is this administration addressing inflation and are they doing a good enough job? >> thank you for having me on here. president biden is in the state
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of ohio, and intel recently announced a massive investment, and as you say, folks don't want to hear general numbers about how fast our economy is growing or how unemployment is, they want to know how we are tackling costs, inflation that is hitting them in the pocketbook. i am leaving a meeting where we talked about what we have already done, and last year we passed the american rescue plan and a tax credit. the democrats passed a bill that will cut taxes on working families that have any costs associated with childcare. we need to do a better job of getting that message out to families so they claim that childcare tax credit as they file their taxes this year, and
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there's more we can do to tackle the costs of food and fuel and drugs and medications. i am optimistic as the president goes across the country and communicates his message and amplifies his state of the union speech, he will show a path forward for tackling the costs of families. >> let's talk about ukraine. our producer in moscow agrees it feels different in russia. anthony blinken was at the u.n. laying out all the ways in which the united states thinks russia might set a pretext for war. in terms of sanctions, this congress is not on the same page. what does that tell vladimir
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putin? >> katy, i disagree. we are on the same page. there's strong bipartisan support in the senate for imposing crushing sanctions on russia if there's further aggression against ukraine. while we did not work out the fine details of the bill to introduce before we leave, a bipartisan group of us are going tonight where we will be meeting and speaking and having a series of conversations in munich with our vital nato partners and eu partners about how we are united in standing up and detouring putin's aggression against russia. you introduced me as a member of the judiciary committee and foreign relations committee, katy. i will remind you, part of why i was so excited about joe biden's candidacy to be president, he was on the committee, and he's
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continuing his work, pulling together western alliance partners from nato and the eu to confront and detour putin's aggression, his values in those two key areas of service are so important as he continues to serve as our president. >> let me ask you this. it does appear by all appearances the west is completely in lockstep right now, nato is in lockstep. any questions about germany's resolve seems to have been resolved. that being said, it does not appear vladimir putin is convinced by the crushing sanctions that the entire west is threatening him with, and if we impose these sanctions and he keeps going, what else can this country do? >> what putin's objective has been for years is to divide the west, to divide nato and the
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united states and western europe, and if he further invades ukraine what he will accomplish is uniting nato and energizing the north atlantic community, and the nato partners closer than ever, and we can impose sanctions on putin and the close circle of oil oligarchs, and we can make it harder and harder for the russian economy to function, and we can do things covertly and overtly that would impose significant costs on putin's russia. he may decide ensuring ukraine never joins nato, that ukraine stops it's movement toward
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orientation, president biden has done a good job of organizing and pulling together and aligning the west to detour putin. whether or not putin goes ahead anyway and takes on those costs and risks is a decision he can make. >> i will say the west alignment was on display at the u.n. security counsel meeting. if you listen past blinken's words, and other diplomats were saying much of the same as what our secretary of state was saying. senator chris coons, thank you for joining us. >> thank you. coming up, the family of actor bob saget files a lawsuit to keep the details of his death sealed. and then a new cutting edge treatment. a doctor part of the research team behind it all joins me to explain. d it all joins me to
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there are new developments today following the death of actor bob saget. a judge has temporarily blocked the records after his family sued to keep the records private citing privacy concerns. >> this is a mystery. the medical examiner said bob saget likely fell backwards and accidentally hit his head, but the details of that investigation have not been made public. did he fall down? did he trip over something? it's a mystery that his family wants to keep private. after bob saget's family sued to keep further details of his death private, a judge temporarily blocked the release of more records, writing the court finds the plaintiff will
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suffer irreparable harm if the injunction is not granted. one of his co-stars on "full house" wanting to remember him as a kind person. >> it's difficult because of more things that have come out and there's lot of question. >> saget's wife and three daughters are trying to block photos from public view. his widow wants people to focus on something else, as she told hoda last month. >> he was just so kind and wonderful, and everybody in his life knew it. and even anybody that would casually meet him thought, wow, this is a special guy. >> while we are sensitive to the family's concerns to the right to privacy that must be balanced
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to our commitment to transparency. saget was found dead from a hotel room, and just hours earlier he posted about his comedy tour. the publicly-released autopsy concluded the 65-year-old likely fell backwards causing bleeding in different parts of the brain and multiple fractures around his eyes. >> how likely is it that saget would have intentionally ignored his injuries? >> very unlikely. it's very unlikely given how severe his injuries were. >> that, experts say, mean he was injured in his room and not earlier. >> he would have been confused and not able to walk or talk or think in the logical process. >> this is a temporary
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injunction while the court really litigates the case, so the final verdict on it could be a ways away. historically, katy, in the state of florida, records related to the death of someone could be subject to release, but it changed when the state law was passed, an exemption to photo and videos, and that will likely play a role. >> thank you so much. now to a potential medical breakthrough that possibly could cure hiv in a woman for the first time. she's being called, quote, the new york patient, and she received a cutting edge stem cell transplant where it destroyed and replaces the immune system, and in the process put this particular patient in hiv remission. she's being observed by a team
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of doctors and researchers to see if her hiv is gone for good, and if it is, she will join a rare club of three that have been cured of hiv. joining me, a pediatric infectious specialist, and she chairs the committee behind the new study. thank you for being with us. this is remarkable. tell me exactly how this works. >> thank you for having me, katy. what i want to say, what we are discussing is something that was not feasible for the 38 million people living with hiv, and it gets us closer of how to achieve the goal for those living with hiv. this is the first woman to be reported in remission, using a
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stem cell transplant to treat leukemia, and it's the standard of care for treatment. what is unique about this case is what were used were core blood stem cells, so it was blood from a newborn's cord to use for stem cell transportation. these cells are hiv resistant. we know 1% of individuals with eastern ancestry created a unique mutation that renders their cells resistant to hiv infection. this is a naturally occurring genetic mutation that makes individuals resistant to hiv, but using the cord blood cells we were able to enable her to go
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into remission. >> i think it's -- >> i was going to say, her cells were replaced by the cells. >> i think it's fascinating. this disease, as you mentioned, plagues millions upon millions of people, and you say it's not scalable because this treatment, it's rare to find that sort of stem cell that matches with the patient involved, but also it's only right now available for those who are suffering from an incurable form of cancer, so if you can't scale this up, what sort of keys are you looking at in this research to try and figure out how to treat those currently suffering from hiv? >> yeah, that's a great question. i think in terms of scaleability, you know, obviously stem cell transportation is not feasible and is costly, but it's important to point out a person living at hiv are at high risk
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for cancer. i think what the third case demonstrates or illustrates is perhaps more attention should be hiv who need a transplant for cancer or some other disorder. in terms of scaleability, thinking into the future, we know there are many ways to genetically modify cells and specifically to alter the ccr-5 delta 32 gene. so it is possible and actually the nih is sponsoring several research groups to figure out ways to do this. it is possible in the future that trying to identify ways to manipulate these cells could make it more applicable for other individuals. so i think that the finding gives us clues in terms of what is a key component of hiv remission, potentially a likely
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cure, unique to have an immune system that is resistant to infection with hiv. >> we cover so much bad news in general in this business. and certainly lastly. it is nice to have a good story, a bit of good news here. and wonderful this this breakthrough is happening even if it is not scaleable yet. just great to know that medicine can figure out a way to cure something even in a small number of people. doctor, thank you so much for joining us. coming up, largest flight attendants union is calling for a single no-fly list after a surge in unruly passengers. so why are republicans standing in the way? tanding tanding in the way ♪ your dell technologies advisor can help you find the right tech solutions. so you can stop at nothing for your customers.
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of unruly passengers, delta is calling for an industry-wide no-fly list. here is tom costello. >> reporter: so this is an issue we've seen escalate, disruptive passengers including some who physically attacked flight crews, and now one of the biggest airlines is pushing to establish a no-fly list across the industry. but getting pushback from some republican lawmakers. despite threats of stiff fines and jail time, cases involving passengers becoming disruptive sometimes physically violent with flight crews and fellow travelers are still happenin as of tuesday, the faa has referred 80 cases to the fbi for criminal review. and that is out of the more than 6,000 reports since the start of 2021. many incidents related to the in-flight mask requirements. already this year, nearly 500 reports of disorderly flyers.
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just this past sunday, crew members an fellow passengers had to subdue a man who became unruly forcing a flight from d.c. to los angeles to divert mid flight. >> attends are saying that nothing has changed, we're still seeing these combative events, there is a ton of disrespect. this is not something that we can accept as a new normal. >> reporter: and while individual airlines have banned certain flyers, delta air lines wants the federal government to create a comprehensive no-fly list barring unruly passengers convicted of an onboard disruption from traveling on any u.s. airline. but a group of eight republican senators who say that they oppose bad behavior are against the no-fly list, arguing in alert to the attorney general, it would seemingly equate those passengers to terrorists. but the nation's largest flight attendant's union says that it would make air travel safer for everyone. >> we need to be very clear with people what the rules are, why
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they are in place and what the consequences are if you violate them. >> reporter: one of those rules the new mask mandate face as new legal challenge this morning with the texas attorney general suing the biden administration to overturn it. it comes as the cdc is already considering revisions to its recommendations. >> we are looking at an overview of much of our guidance. >> reporter: and so the current mask requirements at airports on planes, all public transportation, that mandate is set to expire the middle of next month march 18th. but that mandate has already been extended a couple times since it was implemented. some industry experts think it could be extended again because children under five are not yet vaccine eligible. but some think that there is such momentum to roll back the mask mandates nationwide, it may not be extended. as you can imagine, the faa and cdc have a lot to juggle. back to you. >> behave on flights.
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