sentencing of course and everything else. thanks so much. i will be back over the weekend, back in washington. that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." "mpt daily" starts now. president biden prepares to speak this afternoon. the shelling in ukraine, what is going on? as putin put himself in a corner? what is he going to do to get out of it? and the house republican leadership endorses cheney's primary opponent officially leaving both parties on capitol hill battling some major messaging issues. and an emotional day in a minneapolis courtroom as a judge sentences ex-police officer kim potter to 24 months for killing

20 yield dante wright at a traffic stop last year. welcome to "meet the press daily." i'm chuck todd here in washington. the white house has announced a major change in the president's schedule. later this afternoon he'll delivery marks on the crisis in eastern europe amid a flair in ukraine. the u.s. is sending more troops to hungary. hungary is a nato nation. the president will speak by phone as fierce of a war in ukraine worsens. 4:00 our time will be close to midnight kyiv time for what it's worth. fighters in eastern ukraine announced an evacuation of civilians in the region.

another side moscow was planning to use the shelling as pretext for a war. now, the escalating concerns of a russian false flag operation come as a top u.s. diplomat in europe says that russia now has up to 190,000 military personnel in and around ukraine, nearly doubling its total in just the last two weeks. putin will monitor a vast portion of the country's nuclear exercises tomorrow. president zelensky, meanwhile, is scheduled to leave the country to meet with world leaders in munich for a security conference, but sources are telling nbc news that the biden administration is concerned that putin could exploit zelensky's absence from ukraine. and this warning was issued to

russia -- >> we remain open to and desirous of diplomacy as it relates to the dialogue and discussions we have had with russia but we are also committed if russia takes aggressive action to ensuring there will be severe consequence in terms of the economic sanctions we have discussed. >> the white house says moscow has accepted tony blinken's request to talk. blinken said that unity is the greatest tool to keep putin at bay. >> the single greatest source of strength we have is the solidarity that we talked about. i think putin has been surprised

at that solidarity. which ever path putin chooses, we'll be ready to respond. >> kristen, i think the timing of the remarks, particularly 4:00 this afternoon, they're trying to get ahead of something and we all have that something in the back of our heads, is this another case where we're going to hear the word imminent quite a bit? >> reporter: i would not be surprised. president biden yesterday delivered its most urgent warning yet saying he was bracing for it to happen in just days. so this weekend is a critical period. this is why the white house wants to speak yet again from the white house. this will be his second time this week addressing the nation describing what he is going to argue are these efforts at diplomacy and deterrence. i want to stress, chuck, as you laid out at the top, this is a fast-moving situation.

there could be a number of developments between now and when the president speaks later on this afternoon. so this is an evolving speech. but as of right now i'm told he's going to focus on diplomacy and deterrence. i'm also told you will hear him talk about the fact that lavrov has agreed to meet with secretary of state blinken and he is going to reiterate in very firm terms that that meeting will be called off if they believe that russia has moved one troop in to invade. i think you grg to hear yet again a very urgent warning from president biden but also he's go to detail what the administration is doing. this all hand on deck approach to the last-minute diplomacy here at the white house and overseas at the munich security conference, chuck. >> it does sound like this is not about sending a message to the american people. this is about him sending a message to european allies and to putin at 4:00 today, correct? >> absolutely. and so much of what we have

heard from the white house has been about sending a message to allies and to putin directly, quite frankly. we've heard the administration for the past two weeks talk about the false flag operations and you just detailed that increased shelling that we're seeing in ukraine. i just spoke with an official who said this is a concern, the possibility of a false flag operation. we watch and wait to see what happens next. part of this is to say putin, we know what you're up to, we're going to tell the world. that is yet another tool the administration believes in its tool box at deterrence. and there is concern about zelensky traveling to munich for that security conference, security concerns and also the message that it would send to vladimir putin. and then this extraordinary statement we are getting from a spokesperson for president zelensky it makes it clear this decision is in flux. it says now that we are

observing the situation, which is getting more and more dramatic, the final decision will be made in the next hours or so. we still have time before departure. if there is a dramatic escalation or some worrying messages, then he might change his mind. it underscores, chuck, how tense and how volatile this situation is. >> a and zelensky is concerned about his own status in the country if for some reason he leaves. let's move to richard engel in ukraine. richard, there have been exchanges of fire before between these russian separatists and ukrainian soldiers. there are these skirmishes that -- you tell me, you could use it as an excuse if you wanted to and it's been that way for years, has it not? >> p. >> reporter: no. what we're seeing now is quite different. i've been coming to ukraine for

years. i've been going to that front line for years and particularly as this crisis has unfolded, i've been up and down for the last several months along the front line that separates ukraine from the. normally it is a very quiet front line. occasionally you have exchanges of fire with you we're talking once or twice a week. in some areas it is a once a month. it is a very low level conflict. that front line was very active in 2014 but since then it has died down considerably. what we've been seeing over the last 24 hours is a dramatic increase and a dramatic increase coming primarily from one side. a dramatic increase with russian-backed separatists firing from ukraine. that's what the ukraine officials say and the ukrainian military says and what independent journalists have

been able to fairify, what that this has been 95% firing coming out of the separatist areas into ukraine. because it been a low-level war zone for a long time, it's not densely populated. the artillery has not resulted in any fatalities. where i am right here, there are a lot of ukrainian nor have i seen in this city or any evidence of it in any other part of this country. but that is what the separatists are now claiming they say they are the ones under attack, that the ukrainian army is in the process of assaulting them and is about to launch a much

greater and to back up what is a relatively transparent show. they are now evacuating or ordered the evacuation of the separatist areas. according to russian media, anyone who leaves that area and is forced to flee will get 10,000 rupeles and they plan to soon have ready refugee centers for 10,000 people from the separatist areas who cross into russia. so the russian media and the separatists are making a case that not only are they under attack but they are in position that they have to flee for their lives right now. >> richard, the fact that zelensky, you know, a week ago zelensky was lecturing the west about amping things up. the fact that they are now publicly acknowledging maybe

they shouldn't leave the country, that's quite the change in public tone. >> just in the last couple of days the ukrainian government has shifted tone. it was initially following very much zelensky's line in that there's sort of nothing to see here, we've seen this all before to now taking a much more active stance, putting out statements, putting out tweets in english, trying to counter russian disinformation, trying to tell the world that russia could imminently use this pretext to launch some sort of invasion. >> kristen walker and richard engel, thanks for getting us started from two sides of the story. joining me is the chairman of the senate armed services committee, john jack reed. i want you to share with us what we should expect to hear from

the president later today. certainly the timing, this feels as if there is concern that every hour matters here. what can you share? >> i think the president will direct this message as your correspondents indicated to putin and one that we will not tolerate any type of intruce intrusion into the ukraine and we stand together. nato i think has never been as close together in many, many years and this solidarity, as blinken said, is our strongest strength. he also will once again indicate that any action by russia will trigger significant sanctions. just i believe a few hours ago that german minister announced that the nordstream 2 project

would be cancelled. those are messages and you can't say it too often in the case of putin. >> so i guess the biggest fear is how do we get out of the status quo if we successfully have convinced him there's too much archpenalty to have the invasion but we also now putin doesn't want to admit defeat. how do you get him out of the status quo to get him to take an exit ramp? >> well, i hope the meeting with lavrov is a way to do that. there are steps that both sides could take that would be useful, much more transparency in military operations, notification of certain events. those steps could give him i

think at least the and the ability to go back to the russians and say i've made progress in protecting this nation. there has to be a graceful exit for everyone. >> the president is expected to announce some more u.s. troops -- a nato request will be going to hun gray. when we see hun gray and, how confident are you that hungary is going to be -- is going to stick with the coalition here in this confrontation with putin? >> well, i think the acceptance of american forces in hungary is a strong indication to the russians that hungary, too, is with us and will be with us. they could have easily come up with a justification to not allow us to go into the country. so i think that's another signal that we're united.

and i think what he is probably thinking of the worst possibility would be an engagement in ukraine, which could deliberately or inadvertently involve a nato member and now we're really into the thick of things and he's very close to the action and hungary would suffer grievously. everyone i hope on the nato side believes in sticking together to avoid a conflict. >> if we avoid a conflict and we don't do the worst of all sanctions, does that mean putin got away with this? >> no. because what putin was demanding was basically we go back to 1997. we ignore the sovereignty of the nations in the baltics, poland, et cetera. not at all. i think what we've done is taken a step back hopefully from a confront as in a could and,

again, there are steps that would be mutually satisfactory to both sides that would lessen tensions and provide a diplomatic exit ram many, as you indicated. >> do you expect the minsk accords to ever be a part of this resolution or do you think those are dead? because maybe zelensky doesn't want to have to go through with them. >> i think they're very complicated consequences of pursuing the minsk accords. frankly, i don't think we're even there yet in terms of what's the diplomatic formula that will apply. the immediate concern is to basically cause putin to reconsider any type of military action, then sit down and start seriously talking about regional issues, about military issues. but i don't think we're that far

along to say the formula would be some variation on minsk. >> senator jack reid, democrat from rhode island, appreciate you sharing your perspective with us. >> thank you. >> still to come, as the u.s. engages in efforts, we'll speak with the supreme allied force official next. >> and have some moved to far to the left? you're watching "meet the press daily." watching "meet the pres daily. along the way, we'll give you ways to be tax efficient. and you can start, stop or adjust your plan at any time without the unnecessary fees. we'll help you go from saving... to living. ♪ play all day ♪

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at almost every step of this we have not seen de-escalation. in fact, we have seen escalation. all of this really calls into question whether the russians are in fact committed to a diplomatic path. >> welcome back. that was the state department spokesman ned price speaking last hour. the focus has been on containing

russia's aggression toward ukraine. no one knows what putin will do next but we do keep hearing from officials that nato is now united and perhaps more united than in quite some time. as "the economist" put it, putin has painted himself into a colonel. admiral, it good to see you. let me get your reaction to the fact that the united states and officials are nervous about zelensky leaving the country. what does that tell you about politically inside of ukraine and militarily? >> i don't think you'd have to be a leader to understand why him leaving would be bad.

think of karzai leaving afghanistan. a lot of echos there. he needs to park himself in his nation and rally his people and stand with them in the face of this. >> it does seem as if in the moment we're in, whether you talk to national security types left or right, center, however you want to look at it, there's sort of unanimity that this strategy is working so far. but i say so far and i think we're all trying to wonder what happens if putin doesn't listen? what's your sense. >> if putin doesn't listen and invades, i think the nato alliance is going to hang together reasonably well. i think a sanctions package will be decisive and massive. i think that some of the nato partners who we all identified, we worry about germany, we worry about hungary, but i think in

the end, chuck, they're going to stay on the bicycle and keep pedaling. some will be pedaling faster than others, but in my view the alliance will hang together. and of course that's the irony of this is that putin has managed to do something very difficult. he's got republicans and democrats working together mothers, he's going to raise defense spending and by the way, sweden and finland may decide to join nato after this. that's why the cover is quite apt. >> i do, too. and it's rallied ukrainians who seem to be a bit more patriotic about this in a way that i think zelensky is feeling pressure from are you tough enough on the russians, where i don't think we thought that pressure would exist. is that fair? >> that is fair.

part of the reason that this is occurring now, the answer to the question why now is that putin looked at zelensky, former television comedian and thought i can push this guy around. well, it hasn't wobd out that way and i think putin has decided, well, i need to try some new things. but your point, chuck, it has rallied the ukrainian people i think behind their president and behind the idea of being ukrainians. >> let's assume putin's a rational actor here, which i think everyone is assuming for now, what's the realistic exit ramp? >> i think you were with senator reid, the idea of putting on the table things that allow putin to say they were exercises all along and some of

my issues are being addressed are conventional forces europe, where will they be stationed? open skies treaty, perhaps a return to that. there's a package of things we can talk about. as churchill said, jaw, jaw, jaw, meaning talk, is better than war, war, war. everyone agrees with that at the moment except vladimir putin. let's hope he makes the right choice here, chuck. >> we were sending some troops to hungary. you were talking about some nato allies pedaling faster than others. could orbon have said no to that? these are nato asks. explain thousand that -- explain how that works. he's not stopping this. >> he is not stopping this. and all of those eastern europe countries had a choice at the end of the cold war.

no one was rolling nato tanks into hungry, romania, bulgaria, estonia, latvia, lithuania. those nations begged to join nato and in my view it's a good thing we allowed them in. believe me, the president of hungary remembers soviet tanks rolling into hungary. in the end they'll stand with us. >> hindsight, we know what it is. it's obviously to back seat drive a lot of things this way. would this strategy have been effective in 2014 during the crimea crisis? >> that's a good question to which there is no known answer. but i'll give you my version of it. i don't think it would have. i think that what enables the strategy now is the fact that putin pulled the play book out in 2014 and by the way, in 2008 against georgia.

what the administration is doing now. it's like you're in the house of ukraine, you've turned on all the lights so everybody in the house can see what's going on and more importantly, you've turned the light on outside so the neighborhood sees what's going on. and if the neighborhood knows that burglar was active back in 2014, it's pretty effective. if it was the very first time, might be a little harder. that's another challenge for vladimir putin. >> that's a very i think reasonable assumption that you're making there, that you need to sometimes see a bad action first. this is why sometimes we are better as an reactive society. admiral, as always, sir, i appreciate you coming on and sharing your perspective. >> coming up, mccarthy backs.

welcome back. time now for some mid term politics. some of the biggest names in the republican party version of the establishment these days are doing everything they can to defeat wyoming congresswoman liz cheney. and the move is hardly

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mean while some democrats continue to wring their hands to backlash to some of the progressive messaging. in san francisco this week, they are looking to recast the president's message to one of more empathy. the fear in the white house is that rising prices are drowning out anything else the president says. one senior official says people are not going to hear the litany of accomplishments if they don't believe he understands the current squeeze that people feel on inflation. outside the white house, democrats are soul searching about the right tactics to take in the face of backlash from lawmakers at local levels. sara, i'm going to start with you in this issue we were just sort of hinting at, which is obviously the president's got a lot of political things they'd like to fix in the moment, they've got the state of the

union coming up and they've got the security crisis they have to deal with. you were in a white house at a time when you wanted to do anything else but talk about what was overseas yet it didn't matter, overseas dominated. walk us through that tension between the national security and the political folks that may be taking place in the west wing. >> the political folks are going to lose no matter what they intend and no matter how powerful they are. because in a -- welcome to the nfl. this is the job. this is what happens when you're president and it is critical for the country and the world that he be focused on -- he obviously is focused on it. but it also matters in the aftermath, assuming there's an invasion, we'll see what happens here in the coming days is the president said there's going to be swift and severe consequences if russia invades ukraine. what does that mean? so there's a situation where this is a couple weeks and he handles it well or it's a situation where it's months and

months and months and it's a disaster. >> it feels like there's no political up side to this. because you avoid calamity, everybody says that's nice, what about inflation and if it drags on and it's a drag on your presidency. >> it's best to put the politics aside and manage it competently. if russia does this, we're ready to go with the sanctions regime we're going to go with this strategy. if you're going to right a state of the union address, it's going to be hard to think of what the drafts look like now. you have to have inflation be a core part of it. empathy isn't enough. i think people need a sense of a friction and a fight there. if you're fighting for them -- living in the pandemic, it's not

only i feel your pain but you're angry on how an economic system is screwing you basically on a day-to-day basis. >> that's interesting. >> the or thing we're hearing from democrats is they don't take enough credit, that that state of the union address also needs to talk about what has been done. that's a difficult message when people are paying more for things every day, they feel that pinch of inflation, they see the uncertainty of covid, they're living it every day and now on top of that, you have this crisis unfolding overseas that a lot of americans can't quite get their heads around and the president hit that home on tuesday when he said this could have repercussions. >> i mean, the gas tax holiday. what's the best way to lower gas prices? is probably we solving this crisis, right? >> absolutely. but talk about things inside of

your control and out of your control. this crisis landed in the lap of the administration. how they handling it amid all the other political things and your agenda, that's going to be the message the people probably get. >> this can get bad and it can get much worse. that's where the president has to be calm and steady and really work toward a solution because how he handles the ukraine is going to have a huge impact in what happens in the far east with china and taiwan and, you know, he hasn't had a very successful administration. he needs victories, whether it's afghanistan, the border. they have continued -- >> taking putin back down would be a big win. >> it's going to be very difficult for them to pull that off. >> let's switch to the hand wringing inside the left of the party. i'm curious where you are on this and i'm curious what do you take away from what happened in san francisco? >> well, in san francisco, you don't want to too overread it

but you do have a problem with if you're elected to be a school board member, your main job is get kids in school and make sure they learn and they couldn't handle that part of it. they literally struggle with kids -- you need to have muscularity. people expect you to have a vision and get stuff done. if joe manchin is standing in your way, you have not seen the white house say i'm firing for lower prescription drug prices and i'll tell you who is in my way. >> we're having a very robust debate inside the republican party. it's no very substantive but with or without trump. >> i'd like to see us own what the philosophical differences

are. >> right. you were not on the bide general -- biden side of things in the primary. >> i give him credit. that's what build back better was about. a few corporate democrats got in his way. you have to have that ideological, philosophical debate. take on the corporate forces we don't want to make the rich pay more in taxes that's what they believe. let's have it out. >> you're right, in san francisco it was a competence issue but it was also a focus issue. you had a very active school board. they were focused on the wrong things. they were focused on renaming schools, including schools named after abraham lincoln and george washington. and even progressive parents

said that's enough. face masks in school is going to be a huge challenge to are democrats. >> the school board fight wasn't about any one thing. i think the renaming schools issue has gotten a lot of attention. there were a lot of other things that got controversy from this particular school board. this has been a recall effort that's been going on for more than a year. there was another controversial policy about them trying to balance some better representation racially in a very elite school in the district. >> it's the elite school -- every parent is what do you mean i can't get my kid in that school? >> like a lot of other issues, schools and school boards have become the battlegrounds for kwai frankly populist parent outrage, whether it's about masking or what people are taught or who let's into elite schools. >> democrats are on their back foot on this. as a democrat running for office, you got to be on your front foot. you got to stand with teachers.

boldly increase teacher pay. every teacher should get $60,000. they're being told we want to surveil you and put cameras in classrooms and tell what you you can't say, don't say this word, and you can stand boldly with the teachers. they got a hard job right now. we're putting the screws to them in an unfair way. >> i am surprised i have not seen more democrats come out on teacher pay. but they haven't. >> blown it. >> you've seen around the country where this has been popular across the board with voters, not just democrats. this gets back to you're right, the democrats need to have this out. the problem is all the indications are that the progressive messaging, whether it's on build back better, whether it's on schools, whether it's on any number of issues, immigration, is not popular with the american people. and so that's why you see these centrist democratic operatives coming out and saying we're

going to see a blood bath in november because of -- >> what's your view on what's unpopular? i see lowering prescription drug prices and taxing the rich very popular. >> they sound very popular in a poll but when it gets down to what it takes to implement that and what it costs, that's where it's incredibly unpopular. the amount of money in the build back better plan was too much for the american population. had joe biden come out and done universal preschool or some element of it or prescription drugs, he could -- >> those are all -- >> if you had to do every single thing at one time. that is the problem with the progressive movement. they're not being incremental. >> that's a debate about tactics. >> and going to the public with all of those winning measures i think is a winning measure. >> clearly not. >> it's about what's going on in

wyoming republican politics. is there a sense of where you can overdo it and it starts benefiting cheney. like trump trying to change the rules? it's not always the best message. >> in any state, one thung po tiks that i've learned, calling from washington, the first thing people say to you is we do that a little differently here. it is a complicated issue and there's no question the trump element of the republican party is loud and active and successful in a lot of these states but they can overreach. >> i don't think we know how successful yet. that's the big question right now. the money the form are president has poured in, over a hundred candidates he's endorsed up and down the ballot and that's what we're going to see play out. >> look, we're going to find out what trump's real influence is

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everybody. i am aaron gilchrist in for katy today. president biden will address the world, he will lead the call with including the leaders of france, germany, poland and britain. this after the government had fears. khrr their leaders claiming without evidence that kyiv was planning its own military assault on that area. the state department called that a false flag operation. remember the u.s. has been warning that russia plans to manufacture a pretext for an attack and eastern ukraine is where it would likely