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good day from msnbc headquarters in new york. welcome to "alex witt reports" we begin with breaking news in ukraine, new video showing ukraine officials who came under attack from shelling by pro russian separatists. >> and new satellite images over russia, crimea and belarus,

showing the latest deployment of russian ground attack aircraft, helicopters and air defense units at airfields near ukraine's border, in addition to as many as 190,000 combat forces, along with naval units and field hospitals in place surrounding ukraine. vice president kamala harris standing with ukraine's president, volodymyr zelenskyy in munich and delivering a stern warning to russian president vladimir putin. >> let me be clear, i can say with absolute certainty if russia further invades ukraine, the united states together with our allies and partners will impose significant and unprecedented economic cost. >> putin skipped the munich security conference, as the government releasing images in

moscow, overseeing drills involving russian weapons in belarus. this video was released by the russian defense ministry. nbc news cannot confirm when or where that video was taken. u.s. and nato leaders are expressing hope they can arrive at a diplomatic solution with putin. lloyd austin recalling a military operation he was involved in called off at the very last minute. >> back in 1994, we were poised to conduct an operation into haiti, and lieutenant colonel austin with a parachute on his back about to jump in, and we were airborne, and somehow in route, a diplomatic solution was reached, and we turned that operation around. >> wow. talk about just in the nick of time there, joining us now nbc's matt bradley in ukraine, and josh lederman from the white

house. guys, good to see you both. matt, to you first, what are you hearing about the shelling taking place in eastern ukraine. how are people there reacting? could this be part of a false flag operation, the kind of thing that the white house has been warning about? >> reporter: alex, you know, a lot of this, talking about these incidents, it's sort of the death by a thousand cuts sort of thing here. i don't know that any particular incident up until now is going to create that pretext for war that would allow putin to come into ukraine, actually bring miz -- his troops across the border. definitely the tempo of the drums of war have been increasing over the last couple of days. up until now it has been intelligence assessments and almost all of them have emanated out of washington or london. not much out of kyiv, the capital of ukraine here, but now we really are starting to see incidents piling up on the ground, and that incident you

mentioned today where there was shelling that struck a bunch of lawmakers and military leaders, as well as several journalists, some of my colleagues were out there. this looked very threatening, but we're seeing the number of incidents per day increasing. this is a war that has been going on now for eight years, ever since 2014 when russia first invaded, and those separatist enclaves were cleved off of the eastern side of the country. of course the big concern is that these will be used as a pretext, and that's sort of what we're seeing. that's what the u.s. has been warning about, and that would allow for vladimir putin to say that he's coming into eastern ukraine in order to protect the russian speaking minority in this country. i should say a lot of people speak russian in this country, but in the eastern part of the country, these are people who speak it as a native language, as opposed to ukrainian. i'm in a part of the concern where russian is spoken and what i'm getting on the ground is not that much panic about this because, again, for ordinary

ukrainians, this is not unusual. this is the latest in just eight years of war in which 14,000 ukrainians have been killed, so they see these incidents even the up tick in the tempo as i mentioned is not necessarily threatening in themselves, but again, the tensions are so high that all it could take is one spark and this could have been that one today to set the whole thing off. i don't think we've gotten there quite yet but it is very very tense here. >> can you tell me how far away you are from the border? >> we're a little less than 30 miles, here in the city of kartiv, the second largest city in ukraine. you always hear of kyiv, but this is the second largest city, the unofficial capital of the eastern part of the country. this is a russian speaking city, and i have been here for weeks and weeks chatting with people. one woman a couple of weeks ago, she said, i was born in russia,

i speak russian, i think in russian, but i would die for ukraine. and if vladimir putin really believes that everybody here who is a native speaker of russian supports moscow, then i think he will be surprised to find that's really not the case. >> i remember that woman, you interviewed her, and we played part of that last weekend on the broadcast. so well done on that. but 30 miles away is not very far from the border, so thank you for clarifying that, matt. let's go from there now to nbc's josh lederman at the white house for us. where do things stand right now after vice president harris's meeting with president zelenskyy. >> heading back to kyiv, and in the few short hours he was in germany, there were fresh signs on the ground in kyiv that these western nations now see a war between ukraine and russia as almost inevitable.

luftanza put ago hold on flights out of ukraine, and nato with their staff in ukraine moving out to brussels temporarily, and there were a lot of questions about why zelenskyy would take the risk of leaving the country right now to go to a conference, but when we spoke shortly after a meeting with vice president harris, he made clear he had things he wanted to get off his chest. calling out western nations openly for being wishy washy about their willingness to entertain ukraine being in the eu, being in nato, as well as making clear that he views his country right now as the bulwark against a russian threat that actually applies to all of europe: take a listen. >> translator: we are going to protect our country with or without support of our partners, but everyone needs to understand that this is not some kind of donation ukraine should be reminding or begging for. this is not just a broad gesture that ukraine should be bowing down for. this is your contribution into the european and international

security for which ukraine has been serving as a shield for eight years now. >> reporter: so while this all seems fairly apocalyptic, and we have been talking about the possibility of war for so many weeks now, alex, if there's one glimmer of hope for the u.s. diplomatic, it's the fact that russia has agreed to a meeting between secretary of state blinken and russia's foreign minister, sergey lavrov next week, blinken saying that they have agreed to hold the meeting in europe in the coming week so long as russia does not invade. right now, russia is planning to go to the meeting. of course, anything could happen between now and then. that is most likely the next point where the u.s. and russia will come face to face to try to find an off ramp to the quickly escalating situation. >> we can help. okay, josh lederman, thank you for that from the white house. joining me now from munich is california congressman, ro khanna, a democratic member of the house armed services,

agriculture, and reform committees. good to have you voice in the conversation. i know that you heard the unexpected declaration from president biden that putin has decided to invade ukraine. he said that as a result of a question that was asked of him on the white house grounds. today vice president harris warning russia of unprecedented sanctions if it invades, so you were there among the u.s. delegation at the munich conference. is there equal alarm or certainty over the situation there? >> there is definitely concern, alex. one thing i'm proud of is that the democrats and republicans in munich, about 40 members of congress and senators are unified in a very clear message. putin's further invasion is completely unjustified. we stand with ukraine. there will be swift and certain costs, and secretary blinken, we met with, is doing a brilliant job in offering as many possible

diplomatic off ramps to the russians. this is not in russia's interest to do this. this will be a costly war for them. we heard today in the hall president zelenskyy who made it clear that there are many people in ukraine that will fight for their country. i hope that putin is watching and gets the message. >> as you know, there's no russian delegation at that munich conference and that's for the first time in years. can something truly effective be accomplished with no russians in at least the munich conversation? >>s munich conversation i don't think will have any breakthrough. but i do think it will have a clear message that the transatlantic alliance is unified, is strong, in condemning the russian action, and secretary blinken, i think,

has an opportunity for a breakthrough in meeting with the russian foreign minister. >> so russia held the exercises today with its strategic nuclear forces. it was led by putin himself. sunday is the formal end of russia's exercises with belarus. so as we hear that an invasion could happen at any time now, do we have a sense of how ending the military exercises could factor into what happens next timing-wise? >> well, first, it's important to point out belarus, the person in charge of belarus are probably the only dictator, other than putin in europe, so you have basically the free world, democracies, standing up to these authoritarian dictators. that's what's at stake. the fact that they're doing these exercises is very concerning, and they've got 150,000 troops amassed at the border. they're conducting these exercises and that's why there is a lot of legitimate concern

that putin is getting ready to invade. but what the munich security conference is making clear is that he's going to face a unified united states, and europe in opposition. he's going to have economic costs and sanctions of the kind that he's never seen before, not just against his government but against the russian oligarchs, we met with chancellor schultz of germany, and chancellor scholz was clear he will side with the united states in supporting economic sanctions. russia will have a huge cost, i believe it would turn out to be afghanistan for them, and i hope he will reconsider, and secretary blinken again is doing an extraordinary job to try every breakthrough as possible. >> when you say afghanistan, it begs this question about the responsibility of the u.s. and nato. what it has to ukraine if they are hit with an invasion.

is there any scenario that includes u.s. troops on the ground? >> president biden has made it very clear that we are not going to war with russia. we are not going to get into another endless war. but what we are going to do is make it very very painful for russia to do this. he is going to face economic sanctions. he's going to face sanctions with the swift payment program. that threatens russia's financial assets around the world. the nord stream 2 will be cancelled. that means that his exports on gas will be threatened and he's going to face a resistance in ukraine of a kind that i don't think he's anticipating. we met with the mayor of kyiv, he's 6'7", a former boxer, and i'll tell you, he's going to fight with a lot of other ukrainians for his country and so i just think that this is going to cost russia in a way like i mentioned, that

afghanistan cost them. afghanistan in part started to end the cold war because of what it did to the soviet union and hopefully the message will get through to putin. >> let's talk about stuff stateside here with the national archives, confirming in a letter to the house oversight committee that it found classified material among those 15 boxes of documents that donald trump took with him to mar-a-lago. the matter has been sent to the doj, so how is your committee handling this information? >> well, actually, it's very concerning. i mean, i'm on the yard services committee. we have had intelligence briefings at munich and israel. i would never dream of taking a document outside of any of those rooms. we aren't even allowed to have our phones in those briefings. and so it is mind boggling that trump took classified documents with the most sensitive national security information to a place that was not secure, and this from a person who spent the

entire campaign criticizing secretary clinton for a few e-mails. i mean, it needs to be investigated not just by our committee, which it will, but by the justice department, these are very serious matters. >> we're having a little bit of a connection issue, but i'm going to try to squeeze in one more question about the economy here with the national average for a gallon of regular gas is what, $3.52, as prices remaining high, there's some democratic lawmakers who want that federal gas tax holiday through the end of this year, through 2022. do you agree with that and i'm wondering how big of an effect that could have. critics are saying this is a political move. >> i'm for all options on the table to provide relief, and i'll support what the president decides, and i think the one

thing we ought to look like is oil companies profits have been through the week, and they ought to have some responsibility to lower the costs for consumers. how are they making billions of dollars, policing consumers at the pump. if there are regulatory ways, and antitrust, that to me is a first step. >> okay. california congressman ro khanna, thank you so much for joining us from overseas, safe travels my friend, appreciate . >> thank you. the viral video with two teens that has sparked outrage. a civil rights attorney weighs in next. a civil rights attorney weighs in next. so you can stop at nothing for your customers. meet a future mom, a first-time mom and a seasoned pro. this mom's one step closer to their nini-van! yeah, you'll get used to it.

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we have this breaking news from ottawa, canada, where authorities are denying they have used tear gas to clear the scene of the freedom convoy protesters, as we give you a live look right now, the city's paper, the ottawa citizen reported police did use tear

gas. nbc news has not been able to confirm either assertion. the citizen says riot police have been armed with batons to push demonstrators from the area and ottawa police are arresting protesters wearing body armour, those carrying smoke grenades plus miscellaneous fireworks in their bags. protesters have been demonstrating since late last month for the vaccine mandates for truck drivers, and generally all mandates. as police try to end the week's long demonstration in canada's capital city. kim potter, the former officer convicted in wright's death. wright's mother. >> the justice system murdered him all over again. >> reporter: daunte wright's

mother reacting to two-year sentence the judge handed down to kim potter, convicted of manslaughter for killing the 20-year-old during a traffic stop last april when potter says she mistook her gun for her taser. earlier, wright's family demanded the toughest sentence possible, insisting potter never showed enough remorse in her trial. >> as if killing him wasn't enough to dehumanize him, she never once said his name. and for that i'll never be able to forgive you. >> potter, a 26 year police veteran turns and faces wright's family directly. >> earlier when you said that i didn't look at you during the trial, i don't believe i had a right to. i didn't even have a right to be in the same room with you. >> potter's attorneys called the fatal encounter an accident or mistake arguing she should not go to prison because wright was resisting a lawful arrest. >> running away from the police officers, three of them is a violent act.

>> reporter: judge regina chu acknowledged there will those who disagree with the sentence shorter than the seven years recommended by state guidelines. >> officer potter made a mistake that ended tragically. she never intended to hurt anyone. >> reporter: wright's family saying the judge's concern was misplaced. >> this lady got a slap on the wrist and we still every night sitting around crying, waiting on my son to come home. >> let's go now to an investigation underway in new jersey after a viral video sparked outrage over the police response to a fight between two teens at a mall last weekend. the video shows police handcuffing and pinning zaka hussein, a black 8th grader to the floor. the other teenager who is hispanic, sits by without any

restraint. the 14-year-old described the incident to my colleague joy reed. >> my friend was arguing with a high schooler, and he was bullying him because he was smaller, bigger than him. he was smaller, he was younger. so i don't like the fact that he's bullying him, i say something about it. he starts doing the same thing to me, so he puts his hand in my face, i slap it away, after asking him to get his hands out of my face, and then he pushes me. i start throwing punches, and then we end up on the ground, and the officer, with his knee in my back, while the officer pulls him away and comes and handcuffs me, and on my back too. i was like scared. didn't know what would happen next and if they were going to take it any farther. >> in a statement, the bridgewater police department said we recognize that this video has made members of our community upset and are calling for an internal affairs

investigation. joining me now is civil rights attorney general and msnbc legal analyst charles coleman. welcome. a couple of things to discuss here, first on this story. the other teenager involved in the altercation says he knows what the cops did was wrong, so they should have consequences. like what? what kind of consequences could these officers face? are there grounds for a legal challenge? >> i think there are grounds for a legal challenge because what we see here, alex, is a very clear violation of this young man's civil rights. the fact that the other teenage involved in the altercation was able to point out and identify that he also saw something wrong with it, and he was someone who was absolutely culpable as well says a lot about what it was that the bridgewater police officers were unable to see or actually intending to do in that situation. i absolutely think that there should be legal ramifications. there potentially could be on the criminal side.

certainly there is a violation of this young man's civil rights, and internally, as far as the administrative proceedings for law enforcement, there should be reprimands, there should be a hefty suspension. i'm not necessarily going to say whether this should or should not constitute these officers losing their badges, that is not a decision that we are in a position to make, but i will say that keeping these individuals on the force and allowing them to continue to interact with the public after an incident like this sends a terrible message and does not build confidence in law enforcement from the community. >> what did you see, charles, when you saw the video for the first time? what was your take away? >> i saw everything that everybody else saw, which was a young black boy who was being harassed by police, while another young man who was not black, who officers knew was not black, being treated in a very disparate manner. so you show up and tend to effect deescalation in a scene

where two young people are involved in a physical altercation, you sit the young man down on the coach and coddle him while two officers put the knees on the back of a black boy, publicly on camera in a mall. this is in the middle of black history month, alex. i want people to think about this. the timing of it, optics of it, all of those things notwithstanding, this is in the middle of a conversation that we are having about racial reckoning and law enforcement and confidence in law enforcement with regard to policing communities of color. when you watch something like this, what you have to understand is none of the incidents we have been talking about, none of them are isolated. they are all connected and these are real things that continue to be a problem for black people in america. and they're going to continue to be a problem so long as police reform remains on the desk of legislatures everywhere who refused to do something about it. >> yeah, i got to tell you, this incident, another threat in this conversation, deeply disturbing. and that goes also to governor

phil murphy of new jersey. he says he's deeply disturbed by what appears to be disparate treatment. how does this affect trust in law enforcement? >> alex, we have been dealing with a toxic police culture in america for a very long time with respect to communities of color and black americans, this is not a secret. we have been talking about it literally for generations at this point. in order to have a renewed conversation about trust with respect to black communities and law enforcement, there has to be exist a culture change, and it cannot be a culture change without accountability. right now, what you saw in the package where we talked about kim potter and that very light sentence that was given to her, that is not accountability, and it does not encourage the culture change that needs to happen with respect to law enforcement in black america, and so in order for that relationship to be improved, that's really what's going to have to happen. we're going to have to have a real conversation about qualified immunity being

abolished on a major level. we're going to have to have a real conversation about a number of different accountability measures that need to take place in order to hold law enforcement responsible when they continue to violate the bodies and lives of black people in america. >> let's go back to the other story we were discussing before you brought you on, the sentencing of officer kim potter who fatally shot daunte wright. you have judge regina chu who acknowledged the sentence was a departure from normal guidelines. wright's father called it a slap on the wrist. what is your interpretation of the sentence? >> this is beyond unfortunate. this is an abomination of whatever it is people like to call the justice system. i want you and viewers ponder this, had daunte wright mistakenly shot kim potter when she was off duty, would we be having a conversation about daunte wright getting a two-year sentence in jail. absolutely not, and we know this.

most people, even if they are casually familiar with the justice system, if they're being honest themselves, know this honestly and truly. the downward departure for the sentencing in this situation is inexplicable. you have an officer who is a 26 year veteran. if anything, that warrants judge chu throwing more years and more of a heavy sentence at kim potter than she did because of the fact that there's a higher expectation. you are trained, you are entrusted with the public trust, and so in order to maintain that, as we have been talking about today, you cannot then allow her to have such a light sentence when that trust is violated in such an egregious manner. it is unfortunate, yes, she may have made a mistake, but as law enforcement, you cannot afford to make mistakes that result in a loss of life in this sort of manner, and that message was not sent as clearly as it should have been by judge chu in this case. >> civil rights attorney charles coleman, it is a sobering conversation.

thank you so much, though, charles, good to see you. >> thanks, alex. coming up next, what is at stake for the u.s. if russia invades ukraine, and keeping control of congress, democrats consider one strategy that could win the day. ntrol of congress, s consider one strategy that could win the day.

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respected. and that national borders should not be changed by force. >> that speech comes a day after president biden said he believes vladimir putin has decided to invade ukraine and that an attack could occur within days. an estimated 190,000 troops are currently surrounding ukraine with nearly half of them reportedly in attack position. joining me now is florida congressman debbie wasserman schultz a democratic member of the house appropriations and oversight committees. welcome back to the broadcast. i know you took part in the subcommittee on national hearing and you heard testimony on russia's destabilizing activity in eastern europe. what all did you learn, and what does it state for the u.s. in any potential russian invasion. >> thank you for having me as

always. what we learned in our national security subcommittee hearing this week is that putin has been trying to lay a pretext for invasion for months now. they have been planning misinformation and deploying misinformation and disinformation all the while amassing troops as you're seeing on the screen now, all around the borders of ukraine while the united states and our allies led by president biden have been coming to the negotiating table and trying to engage russia in diplomacy. the vice president is absolutely right, people who live in a world of nations have the right to choose their own form of government and there's no leader, no person who has the right to decide the destiny of anyone in another country against their will, and that is what putin is attempting, and on the cusp of executing and he will be met as president biden said with certain swift and severe consequences facing a

united nato and our allies. >> okay. let's turn to florida, your state there. a ban on abortion after 15 weeks now heads to a florida senate committee meeting after passing the state's house of representatives. that bill, which governor ron desantis supports could be passed by both chambers as early as next week and this somewhat mirrors the mississippi law now before the u.s. supreme court, so what kind of impact will this law have on your constituents and does this make the court's future decision on the fate of roe v. wade even more critical? >> it would have a devastating impact on my constituents just like in the other two states this week that are considering 15 week abortion bans, arizona and west virginia would. what the republicans are doing here in our state led byron desantis is that they have no agenda. they have no plan to lower prescription drug costs, no plan to expand access to health care. no plan to make sure that we can

continue the development of our robust job market. all they have is culture war ch -- war. what they're doing is trying to tell women and their families when they can have families. they did this in florida at the dead of night because this doesn't stand up to the light of day, and ron desantis is running the communist dictator playbook from the get go. i have constituents who fled venezuela and cuba and what they are facing now under a governor like ron desantis is he is essentially prohibiting protests. he's telling schools and teachers what words they can say through the don't say gay, the list goes on and it's absolutely outrageous, unacceptable, and we're going to continue to fight this legislation, push back at the polls, and make sure that there's accountability for leaders like this who want to tell women when they can have families. >> any way to stop the don't say

gay law? any way to stop that from becoming law? >> it appears that it is rocketing through the florida legislature, and again, it is right from the communist dictator playbook where i have constituents who fled countries where they are told what they can say, when they can say it, where protest is limited, where there is limitations on when they can have families. what they're doing here to the lgbtq kids who are in schools are making it more likely that there is suicide, mental health challenges, and devastating consequences to restricting what can be talked about and having these kids see who they are reflected in what they learn. it is more likely that children who face laws like this are going to see more suicides. we see a 23% reduction in suicides when lgbtq kids can see

who they are and are respected in schools and that's the opposite of what's going on here, and those deaths and those -- and that harm to lgbtq kids will be right in ron desantis and republicans laps if they pass those bills. >> what kind of message is being sent to your state and the country at large, what is the image of florida because of these measures? >> again, this is a state that is led by a governor who essentially wants to clamp down on freedom of expression, on -- who wants to enact what is really the socialist dictatorial policies that our constituents fled other countries for, and it's because they have no agenda, alex. they have no agenda to actually make people's lives better, and so all they have is a play to their nativist space where

they're trying to motivate their own core trump base to go to the polls and try to remain in office or elect more people like them, and that's not the direction this country should be going. we have a president in joe biden who isn't putin's patsy like donald trump was. we have a democratic majority that is turning things around, bringing us out of covid, creating more jobs, have a massively robust economy, and what do republicans do, they have voted no time and time again. they have no agenda. all they have is culture war, and it's revolting. >> let me ask about "politico" which is reporting that the democratic congressional campaign committee is warning members unless they more forcely confront the gop's alarmingly potent attacks, a former chair of the dnc, how do you think democrats should approach this heading into the midterms? >> well, i'll tell you how i

approach it. i approach it by talking about how i voted for the american rescue plan, and republicans voted no. and fought in that legislation to make sure when local government's budgets were devastated by the impact of covid, meaning police department budgets were devastated, i voted to add resources to those cities and republicans who voted to defund the police. it's republicans that are engaging in legislation that would limit people' ability to decide when to have a family, that are telling people what they can say and not say in schools, that the culture wars are being played out in technicolor and democrats are pushing back every step of the way and republicans are trying to have at government that essentially takes over your lives and tells you what you can do, when you can do it, what you can say, when you can protest. that's not what america is all

about, and that's going to be the contrast coming into the election in november. >> bring it on then. florida congresswoman debbie wasser man schultz, thank you. force ago family member to testify against donald trump may be the next step taken by the january 6th house committee, there's new reporting that now possibly could be in the cards. which trump family member might be the chief target and why, that's next. p family member mig be the chief target and why, that's next. or...oh! i can't wait to go there! or reunite there, ♪ ♪ start here. walgreens makes it easy to stay protected wherever you go. schedule your free covid-19 booster today. wherever you go. ♪ ♪ ♪

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committee is considering issuing a subpoena to ivanka trump, potentially forcing a member of donald trump's own family to testify against him for the first time. joining me now is the reporter who broke that story, hugo lowell, congressional reporter for the guardian. i want you to walk us through the new reporting. what is the committee weighing here? >> that's right, so the committee has started the tentative discussions about whether they should go ahead and issue a subpoena to ivanka trump for her testimony and potentially for documents around trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election on january 6th, and i think i should stress that these conversations are still in, you know, very early stages and the committee didn't decide anything when they met last week friday for their all member briefing, but i think it is a reflection of the committee's determination to get ivanka trump to talk to them, right. especially with respect to one

key issue, which is whether trump had been told by white house counsel in advance that the plan to have pence throw the election was unlawful, but then he went ahead and did so anyway. ivanka trump could speak to those issues. >> okay. what about last week with the reporting about rudy giuliani potentially cooperating with the committee but then not too long after that, he claimed the committee has no authority whatsoever. he called it illegal. what do you make of that? what are the odds that he actually cooperates? >> yeah, i think we're going to have to wait and see about mr. giuliani, right? my sources confirmed to me that giuliani is discussing some sort of cooperation arrangement with the committee, so there is definitely some engagement there, and if there is engagement and if there is cooperation, it's true that that could be really potentially huge. my guess is that any cooperation arrangement will not involve him violating executive privilege or attorney-client privilege, and i think it's important to

remember, and we've discussed this previously, that rudy giuliani was trump's personal attorney on january 6th, so he is limited to what he can discuss. but if he can find a way, and the committee does have a number of tools in their tool kit here to try to get giuliani to talk about stuff, that may be covered by executive privilege, then that would be significant and it would mark a breakthrough. >> what about what happened this week with the president directing the national archives to send those white house visitor logs from the trump administration to the committee? completely rejecting trump's assertions those records are subject to executive privilege. in fact, as you know, hugo, usually this information is just public, right? so, why would trump want to keep this secret? >> i think there's stuff about the visitor logs that's really interesting and obviously two ways this can go, right? we know that trump and the trump administration in general were pretty poor at maintaining protocol and documentation and ensuring things were kind of

proper as they were in other administrations, but there is potential here that some of the visitor logs, especially in the weeks leading up to january 6th, when trump was trying to find any way to overturn the results of the election, and there could be entries in the visitor logs about who was at the white house and who was discussing what. the visitor logs aren't going to say, giuliani showed up at the white house on january 5 and, you know, sought to attack the capitol. it will just say, giuliani arrived. but these can act as leads, and you can go to the visitor logs and see, if there were members of congress, if there were campaign aides, if there were extralegal advisors at the white house on certain dates and certain times, then maybe that gives you an indication as to what they were discussing and whether it amounts to some sort of obstruction of an official proceeding on january 6th. >> okay, hugo lowell, keeping you very busy. i'm sure there's more this week to discuss. so, imagine this. the most important moment in your career, and you have to

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♪♪ a very good day to all of you from msnbc world headquarters in new york. welcome, everybody, to alex witt reports. we begin this hour with breaking news. military officials in ukraine are reporting more shelling near pro-russian controlled sections of the country. this as pro-russian rebels begin evacuating women, children, and the elderly while urging