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and can adjust his plan whenever he needs to. and now he's so prepared for retirement, ben is feeling totally zen. that's the planning effect from fidelity. that does it for me. catch me back here at 9:00 p.m. eastern tonight. "the reidout" with my great friend joy reid is up next. good evening, joy. >> the hardest working man in the news business, ali, always great to see you wherever you are. >> thank you, friend. >> i will follow you around figure out when i see you, stop, watch. >> i miss the ability weekend mornings to say hello to you. that's the treat tonight. >> we'll find a way to bring it all back together. i'll come hang out with you or maybe live tweet you like every weekend. cheers. good evening, everyone. we begin "the reidout" with
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russia and ukraine on the brink of war with vladimir putin ordering troops into two moscow backed regions within eastern ukraine after putin announced he would formally recognize the independence of those regions where russia is supporting armed separatests in an eight-year conflict. putin addressed russia today in a rambling speech filled with grievances while offering a false interpretation of history. sound familiar? putin claimed and we're translating this from russian that ukraine is a historical part of russia that was illegitimately taken from moscow and run a puppet regime controlled by the u.s. and the west. ukraine never had traditions of its own state hood according to putin calling the eastern part of ukraine ancient russian lands. the remarks coming from a dangerous paranoid man who honestly came across as also unsound and stoked fears putin
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is looking to acquire all of ukraine. his master plan to claw his way back to the time of mother russia before the fall of the soviet union and the states that made up the ussr by the '91 exit of ukraine. almost immediately, the white house announced biden signed an executive order prohibiting new investment, trade and financing by u.s. persons to, from or in the so-called dnr and lnr regions. germany and the u.k. announced they would follow suit. the security counsel will meet later tonight to discuss the situation. joining me now is senior international correspondent keir simmons from kyiv and erin mclaughlin.
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kier, give us the sense because this has gotten as serious as it gets. what is your sense from where you are? >> reporter: yeah, pretty serious, joy. the news agency that russian news agency reporting that two large military columns are in donetsk the separatests regions and sending peace keepers into the area of eastern ukraine so you could call that an invasion. it's open russian military forces going into eastern ukraine. today president putin recognized those separatests regions of eastern ukraine but with his military there now and even with the treaties he signed, joy, including agreements for the russians to build military bases in eastern ukraine, well, you can call that, too, an annexation. it mixes up the agreement, that peace deal they reached back in
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2014 that deal is very difficult to implement on both sides but that's done for and over and i think one of the things you can really say about that performance by president putin on russian television is that's not a man who is scared, he's sitting back. he looked frankly relaxed and angry and ranting. he didn't have notes. as you say, he spoke for a minute. he didn't seem frightened by the potential for sanctions and now, the real question is what will the sanctions be? is another point. just a year ago for example, the idea of russian troops openly going into eastern ukraine would have been enough to bring the west heavily down on moscow but is that what we're going to see because this isn't as much as the west had feared. what will happen next is another question but again, president putin, his inner core if you like, these are people who are already sanctioned who can't leave russia and they are not acting like they are frightened by anything that's been threatened so far. >> well, and erin, let me bring
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you in on this. the point is there are things that it seems putin has done to build up enough reserves in case sanctions happen. let's look at options that are there. there is the option to cut russia off from society for worldwide interbank telecommunications called swift, limit access to u.s. made technology, freeze assets of high ranking russian officials. there are things that could be done and looks like sanctions will happen. if they're lying enough about what is happening in ukraine to claim they need to send in please keeping forces when there is nothing to send peace keeping forces for with a false pretext, this weird historical layering to make an excuse for doing this, i do wonder, you know, what is the thinking about how effective sanctions would be and how extreme to make a difference? >> well, very effective if you speak to ukrainian officials.
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they've been calling for sanctions for some time now, most recently in munich, ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy saying what are you waiting for if you're so sure russia is going to invade and we're yet to hear from the ukrainian president following this latest move from the kremlin. he's expected to speak tonight. it's 2:00 a.m. in the middle of the night and yet, any minute now he could address the country and what will arguably one of the most important speeches of his entire career. one of the big over hanging questions in all of this is how will the ukrainian military respond especially if these russian peace keepers move into separatest controlled areas and push past the line of contact? so far the ukrainian military is ordered to exercise restraint, not to provoke the situation with president zelenskyy saying one cannon fire and artillery
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round could spark a greater war. in terms of his speech, we expect for him to maintain a sense of calm. something he's been trying to do for weeks now saying panic is an enemy of ukraine but i can tell you, i have been speaking to ukrainians and they're extremely concerned. i was speaking to one former advisor to president zelenskyy who said he feels like today is 1939 all over again and listening to president putin in that hour-long address earlier today, he said it's very clear to him president putin wants to take the whole of ukraine. that's the feeling that some really key officials in kyiv feel tonight. >> president zelenskyy has spoken or doing that now as we speak. i know you'll go back and cover whatever he says. he's essentially said the move into eastern ukraine is unacceptable. it felt unhinged. it may not have seemed like a
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fearful leader of a country that wants to be sort of top dog on the world stage equal to the quite but definitely sounded paranoid. it was a full redress of old grievances and this longing to bring ukraine back inside of i guess a sort of recreated old ussr. it didn't sound hinged. but what do you make of that and the fact that this man does appear to be ignoring the entire world to not do this and threats of sanctions and seems to be doing it anyway? >> well, the most important thing that putin said today actually wasn't that the ukrainian is historically part of russia. the most important thing he said today is the entire body of laws the soviet union was based was illegitimate. basically has cancelled russia's recognition of the post soviet
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geography and that is a threat not only against ukraine, that's a threat actually against every country that used to be part of the russian empire and the soviet union that includes finland and the baltic states but ukraine most importantly. that's the most important thing. he sounded resolved and he sounded like he was announcing to the world that the entire post cold war order has been cancelled. the other thing that he has been saying before and that he said today during the -- indicated today during the fake live broadcast of the russian security counsel was that they are basically trying to create a kind of character of the air war of 1999. they're laying down the pretext for claiming that in these so-called break away regions, because they're not actually so-called break away regions and not actually run by russian
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backed separatests. they're actually russian occupied russian controlled fake separatest regions. in these regions, he's claiming there is discrimination against russians, there's systematic violence against ethnic russians and russian speakers in ukraine. they are throwing around the word genocide and what they're preparing the ground for is air strikes against kyiv and installing a public government in kyiv, which i'm afraid putin imagines will be easy to do. >> imagine it will be easy to do and doing it are two different things. do you have the sense in studying what russia is now, that they would have the military capability to restore, to do what it is he claims to want to do because that seems beyond the normal sort of capabilities of a country like
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russia but is that something that even is feasible because that sounds like madness. >> i think putin actually has a very good idea of what his military is capable of. what he doesn't have the imagination for is the ukrainian population. he doesn't understand that he's talking about a country that has true cohesion where people have actually sacrificed their lives and are fully aware that more than 100 people died during the revolution of dignity in 2013, 2014 to secure free and open elections. people will stand to the last in ukraine. this is all they had but has been partially occupied by russia for the last eight years. it has had a shooting war, a hot war for the last eight years, the daily claims casualties so this is a mobilized resolved nation. this is a nation where even eight years ago, students, people i knew because there are
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post docs through academic circles volunteered to go fight against russia in the east. this is a country that will not tolerate the instillation of a public government and that's something that putin simply cannot imagine. he's used to dealing with his own country. >> right. and i have to ask you this kier, i know it very limited what people are able to see and i'm wondering what are russians actually seeing? because is that not clear to people who are in a position to advice vladimir putin that this -- that there is no grand desire inside of ukraine to rejoin some remodels, you know, ussr that they will fight back. do the people in russia get any of that anywhere? is there any access, social media, anyway that information can bleed through or are people there thoroughly propagandaized in what they know? >> reporter: we went out tonight while president putin was speaking and spoke to russian people in moscow and every
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single person, it was a hand full who we spoke to said that they simply wanted peace, that they couldn't envision a war between russia and ukraine. one mentioning that his parents are in ukraine. there are so many ties between russians and ukrainians. there is a real issue for the russians and kremlin whether they have support from the russian people. certainly, the russian state controlled media have been pumping out the propaganda, a tsunami of propaganda frankly to try to persuade the russian people what president putin is doing now makes sense and that they should go along with it if you like. i think another important -- couple other important things to make actually, one is you remember that in russia, someone has said you don't really have millionaires, you have billionaires and ordinary people. that is to say the ruling elite are enormously economically detached from most russians and then the ruling core around president putin is a very, very small group, a group of people
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as i've said who won't suffer from further sanctions because there are already sanctions. so there is that perspective. another crucial one, i think, too is in someways you can describe this as a conflict between president putin and the people of ukraine. president putin and president zelensky, the people of ukraine because what president putin really didn't like was those revolutions. what he really doesn't want is for the russian people to look and see that a revolution might cause -- lead to a better life, a freer life, a more economically prosperous life. he has to oppose that. that's a reason he wants to destabilize at the least ukraine because you see this in foreign policy around the world, he can never abide people changing their government because maybe, that might happen to him. >> yeah, yeah, exactly. he can't hide from the russian people forever that there is a better option. there is a better way to leave.
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keir mclaughlin, thank you. also, it got a little lost after the news that trump and the trumps will have to give depositions in new york but another ruling allowing january 6th civil cases to proceed could be even worse for him. plus, an what would have been john lewis' 82nd birthday, tonight's reidout democracy defender is carrying on with his fight for voting rights. repulsive attacks on public education to a whole new low and could be putting our children in danger. "the reidout" continues after this. danger "the reidout" continues after this
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general william barr appointed as a special counsel during the trump administration to somehow prove that the russia investigation into donald trump and his campaign was one big deep state setup and yes, yes, he's still here and still getting paid by the american taxpayer for his investigation. durham was all the rage in republican circles last week after he filed a court document that sent the right wing spin regime into a frenzy. fox news on the filing to falsely claim durham alleged that hillary clinton spied on trump and tried to quote infiltrate his servers. of course, durham didn't allege anything even resembling that and the theory was thoroughly debunked from outlets that actually read the court documents yet the far white claims continue to grow to a fever pitch durham himself had to step in and set the record straight. his filing he said had been misinterpreted. faster than you can say defamation, the story vanished from fox news, poof. the episode is a reminder of the
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history when it comes to trump and russia. they are literally desperate to claim he was unfairly accused of russia collusion but trump's ties to russia to help his campaign accepted from his and admiration of putin are too real and worse, trump's putin love has seem to infect many in his party, so much so the republican party once star ward opponents during the cold war are apologiests and their message to ukraine is drop dead. here is j.d. vance, the hill billy guy. >> it's ridiculous that we're focused on this border in ukraine. i got to be honest, i don't care what happens to ukraine one way or another. >> okay. those comments earned vance a rebuke from barry mccaffrey calling him a studge. meanwhile, the usual suspects at
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fox news are doing what i suppose by now we should expect. >> these people live in an alternate reality where standing up for democracy means protecting ukraine's borders. >> was this whole thing an effort to take everybody's attention away from what hillary clinton did? >> there is something else going on here that feels very, very manufactured. i don't know what it is. why is it disloyal to side with russia but loyal to side with ukraine? >> in fact, tucker charleston heaped so much praise on putin they are openly pushing for putin to appear on his show. and then there is marjorie taylor greene that dropped this little gem yesterday. >> they'd rather talk about russia, russia, russia and ukraine and possible war than the real truth that ukraine, don't forget this, ukraine was the number one donor to hillary clinton when she was running for president.
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>> yeah, okay. of course that's a complete lie but who is counting. from ukraine is msnbc counterterrorism and author of the upcoming book "they want to kill americans, militias and terrorists." also joining me "news week" editor at large and author of "how to catch a russian spy." malcolm, you're in ukraine. this is not a made up thing. this is really happening. you're there. tell us what is happening and how the ukrainians you're talking with military and non are reacting to what is going on. >> let me clarify things. i've been here a month in studying the russian order of battle and routes of intention invasion and quite possibly by the time you and i talk again on the next show, we could be moving along with 5 million refugees away from a russian on slot that's designed to not just knock down the ukrainian
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government but also kill ukrainian citizens by the tens of thousands. this could be the single largest land war since world war ii. this country is a democracy. the united states until just last week had u.s. armed forces in this country assisting them with democracy building and of course, training on weapons systems that we're giving them to defend their democracy. what we find right now and i've had these discussions with ukrainian journalists, ukrainian ministers, the ukrainian commander of the forces, some of these americans come off as straight up fifth columnists. they come off exactly like tucker carlson. they support moscow and they are now working in the interest of a dictator that is about to destroy the largest, one of the largest democracies europe and
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quite possibly kill tens or hundreds of thousands of the 42 million people here who side with america and who want to be on the side of the west and nato. >> you know, naveed, there is intelligence moscow has a kill list of people they want to target, journalists, members of the lgbtq community. this is as serious as it gets. it is an attack on collective western values but not for a huge chunk of republicans and media people. the champion tweeted yesterday most pathetic is these republicans are openly supporting a dictatorship that's attacked america and putin treats the united states as an enemy and doing his bidding in slandering ukraine and his target. can you explain for those who do not understand why american media, whey we're covering this and must care about what happens to ukraine?
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>> yeah, i mean, there is two reasons, first, it's important to understand as the three of us, this whole band has been talking about, the russian investigation, we talk about protecting borders, my goodness, the russians attacked our democracy. that's not just conjecture, that was determined by the u.s. intelligence. they preferred donald trump. so if you don't want to care about america and protecting democracy, perhaps republicans don't, this is a second part. the second part is that the thing that came out of the second world war was this idea that a smaller state would not be invaded just by a larger one because it wanted to. this whole concept as we've seen russian troops walking into ukraine as quote unquote peacemakers, an absurd title is this fact we're undoing, i can't emphasize this enough. what came from the second world war. americans died and fought for in the second world war. this idea of a united nations
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and this idea that states used diplomacy and go to the united nations to resolve conflict and don't fight each other. if we allow putin to just waltz into the ukraine and seize territory, what is next? clearly, his eye is not just on ukraine, as we saw he wants to rally back some sort of soviet rising from the ashes here and it's not going to be just ukraine and frankly, it's not just going to be russia. we're talking about china looking at taijuan. this is setting the whole entire world order. when j.d. vance says why should we care about ukraine? he should because it's undoing the security that's kept us from getting into another world war. as simple as that. >> maybe they want that. i should note that president zelensky says it's a violation of integrity and puts the responsibility 100% on them. one of the excuses that he is making, putin, malcolm is to claim that there are atrocities
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taking place in this donbas region, heavily russian speaking. that at least according to u.s. intelligence and the biden administration is a lie. can you talk about these regions, which, you know, they don't -- they sound like they're simply controlled by russia. is there some desire among parts of ukraine to be part of russia because that feels also like a lie. >> well, you know, back in 2014 the reason russia invaded those three specific provinces, crimea, is because they were overwhelmingly ethnic russian speaking, politically aligned with russia but part of ukraine. this would be the equivalent of canada coming down and invading idaho, north carolina and washington state. and saying well their more aligned with us than you and the
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population siding with them. i was done at the donetsk battle front with the joint task force commander. that place is a trench line. there is no offensive operations where you can go through the mine fields and just invade donetsk. it a static line down there. so this is a lie. i mean, the myth there is a genocide is for the consumption of the russian population. they are looking for this war and we assessed there would be a potential limited operation where they would declare donetsk an independent state and ask for russian forces but russian forces are down the line. the ukrainian army fights them every day. now you have the rest of the russian armed forces, 75% of the russian arm surrounds this nation but i'll tell you one thing and this is missing from
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the u.s. narrative, these people are here to fight. they are down to fight, the russians if it comes to that but it will devastate this country. it will be trillions in damage and possibly hundreds of thousands dead and it will impact the rest of the nato world. >> yeah, and the rest of europe and us, as well. it is something we need to care about. >> of course. >> if you care about democracy. malcolm, stay safe. thank you both very much as always. still ahead, trump is already in legal trouble up to his weird furry eyebrows. now a judge's recent ruling about his conduct on january 6th could be the one that ends up sinking him. we'll be right back. that ends sinking him. sinking him. we'll be right bk.acief ♪ahhh!♪ wooo! vaporize sore throat pain with
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investigation led by leticia james for potential financial crimes involving the family business. but potentially worse for him was a u.s. district judge ruling that civil lawsuits seeking to hold trump accountable for the january 6th insurrection can move forward. the lawsuits filed by members of congress and police officers accuse trump and others of violating federal civil rights and local insightment laws. remember these remarks from trump before the insurrection began? >> we fight, we fight like hell and if you don't fight like hell you don't have a country anymore. we're going to walk down pennsylvania avenue, i love pennsylvania avenue and we're going to the capitol. we're going to try and give our republicans, the weak ones because the strong ones don't need any of our help, we're going to try to give them the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country.
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>> in his 112-page ruling the judge found those comments to be plausibly words of incitement not protected by the first amendment and plausibly crossed the line into unprotected territory. trump's repeated use of we in this context can be reasonably viewed as a call for collective action and the essence of a civil conspiracy. in other words, the judge appears to believe there could be a cause of action for trump on seditious conspiracy. l.a. times legal columnist and host of a podcast. harry litman. thank you for being here. you read through this 112-page ruling. i saw your twitter thread and said let's get him on to explain this to the rest of us. explain why some people were let off the hook. i'll put it on the screen. the judge said the suit can proceed against donald trump, the oath keepers and enrique of
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the proud boys. please explain. >> yeah, so it is a methodical and surgical but an even handed opinion. why not trump junior? he's up there and kind of revving up the crowd but says the judge nothing he's really doing is really inciting them to go forward. with trump, you basically, meta sees him as plausibly, plausibly, meaning it can go forward with inciter in chief and the proud boys and oath keepers are foot soldiers here. for a conspiracy, civil conspiracy is enough. it brought under these post civil war conspiracy laws when the people in the south were trying to keep union folks and the newly freed slaves from doing their work and getting in the way of federal office holders and that's what eric swalwell and bennie thompson and
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the other nine are saying. you purposely have this common goal of keeping us from doing our jobs, that is a civil rights violation down the middle and, you know, meta does what the law does best. we've been sort of waiting for it in a thirsty way. just goes through everything an , hears out dozens of claims and serves them up and swipes them down. most importantly, he says this is not you acting as an official way but you trying to keep your job, that is not official. you have no immunity here. he does that really meticulously and if that holds up, this, you know, has to go up on appeal, possibly even the court but if it does, we're looking at, you know, trump sitting for a subpoena basically the jock pot that the january 6th committee is trying to do all of a sudden,
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these civil cases have it and trump has to sit and answer everything or else take the fifth. >> so this is the question i have. let me just do really one quick speech here. the january 6th rally speech is telling an excited mob corn dealers starved the poor and invited supporters to washington d.c. after telling them for months the corrupt and spineless politicians were to blame from stealing the election from him and sent him to the capitol. my question is this, let's say he is deposed in this case and he has to sit for the deposition. can that be of some use to the committee in someway and could that be of some use in a prosecution for seditious conspiracy because the oath keepers guy, that's what he's facing. >> yes and yes. anything he says is just out there. now, let's say he takes the fifth. nevertheless in this actual just as in new york, it's a civil case and that can lead to an adverse conspiracy.
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there could be a jury that says you heard him take the fifth and you can infer that what he was going to say would have been bad for him. and the actual committee for january 6th can use it, too. an actual criminal prosecution, no. if they try to bring seditious conspiracy and he's taken the fifth, nothing he says can be used against him if he has actually testified, everything is fair game. it's an admission under federal evidentiary law. and that was just a great example because remember when trump says peacefully, we're going to go over there and meta says sure he said that but look, let's really take it all in context. he breaks it down and really teases it finally in a way that the best judges can do and that is the sort of thing nobody has done yet. >> it is quite a bit to read in
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an interesting read for the layperson but yes -- >> for lawyers -- >> a long read but a fun read, indeed. up next, spotlighting another "reidout" democracy defender. organizer and strategists that dedicated her life to protecting the right to vote especially for black americans. stay with us. vote especially fr black americans. black americans. stay with us full prescription-strength? reduces inflammation? thank the gods. don't thank them too soon. kick pain in the aspercreme. as a main street bank, pnc has helped over 7 million kids develop their passion for learning through our grow up great initiative. and now, we're providing billions of dollars for affordable home lending programs... as part of 88 billion to support underserved communities... including loans for small businesses in low and moderate income areas. so everyone has a chance to move forward financially.
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happy black history month. it is -- since it is still legal for now. today we honor one of the most legendary late great congressman and civil rights icon john lewis that would have turned 82 years old today. as the young organizer during the 1965 montgomery march, lewis was nearly beaten to death so black voters could have a right to vote and when lyndon johnson signed it into law, lewis was on
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hand. 60 years later his life's work are on life support under sustained assault from right wing judged. a trump appointed judge opened a new front on the war on voting rights last week saying he would toss a lawsuit alleging the district map in arkansas dilutes black voting power unless the justice department joins the case. he essentially argued section two of the voting rights act, the only part left with any teeth can only be enforced by the attorney general opening the door to rendering it unenforceable under the next republican president. it a district court ruling, just a district court ruling i should say but the five horseman on the u.s. supreme court that recently upheld alabama's racist voting maps have made their hostility to section two quite clear. the eaiest way to stop the assault is the bill named in john lewis' honor. our democracy defenders on the ground know that that requires electing people willing to stand up for the right to vote.
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like brown in lewis' home state of georgia whose blockbuster black voters matter mobilizing effort sent turnouts sky high in 2020 delivering democrats the white house and two senators but the fight continues and with me now is today's "reidout" mock da -- democracy defender latosha brown. as you look at the legislatures determined to pass, you know, the most hoops possible for particularly voters of color, black voters to jump through and conservative right wing courts willing to let them do it, how you operate, how that has changed the way that you operate in trying to ensure the right to vote. >> you know, part of it is we've had to use multiple strategies. we've had to use illegal strategy. we have several lawsuits we had to file. we had to organize on the
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streets on the local level the state level and the federal level to combat some of this. we had to combat some of the misinformation that is happening. in addition to that, we've also had to make sure that we are literally lifting up and advocating for there to be federal legislation. so they're all multiple levels we have to work on. you know, what we've seen over the years, presidential powers expand. we've seen partisan powers expand. we've seen the courts literally operate in such a way instead of interpreting the law in many ways, what they're doing is dismantling i think civil rights and voting rights in this country. so if a democracy is to be so, we'll take the first three words of the constitution seriously. we the people. part of our work is how do we galvanize people to care and mobilize around this issue? >> we talk about the election of these two senators in georgia and they are both democrats but that is because, you know, the vast majority of black voters when they vote for democrats,
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that is just sort of the party that we have wound up through the way history turned out but administration are democrats, too. how would you gauge their level of support? this district court judge said the justice department will have to weigh in. do you feel the effort to vote, not for the sake of the party but voters is getting adequate support from the justice department and administration? >> let me say this, i think that one of the complaints i've been seeing all the while is i don't think that we're taking the seriousness of this threat to democracy. on one level we're dealing with this like this is a policy issue between two warring fashions, two political parties. we're not really talking about how the very basic democratic system is being attacked by the legislative branch. we saw opened by the executive branch and now what we're seeing is by the judicial branch so i do believe we're not addressing this and i believe both
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political parties at this point now, the most critical you shall shoe to be voting rights and if that was the case, we'd have voting rights legislation now currently in this nation. >> indeed. you know, the supreme court obviously is a part of this, as well. this is president biden's self-imposed deadline this week he has said it will be a black woman. all put up the final three per reporting. our congenitally brown, leondra cooler out of california, and jay michelle childs. what do you make about this back channel campaign that's being waged behind judge child's, there is the harvard university black alum wrote a letter supporting angie brown. this is a campaign at this point. what do you make of it and what do you make of the choices that are being made, and the range of choices that the administration is considered deterring? >> there is one thing let me say early on. this whole notion, these women
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are highly qualified. we know that this is gonna be a racist trope that's gonna be used, right? when donald trump said that he would select a woman there with no debate. now all of a sudden the only difference is that biden wants a black woman, and look at what it's brought up in this country right now. well we're gonna have to see right now is that we need a strong advocate of that court that's gonna stand for both the civil rights to protect democracy in this nation. i think we're gonna have to really make sure that we're drowning out those voices of this racial trope that's gonna try to use and destroy whoever the nominee is. we know this is happening. we've seen it already. and so, we need to be prepared to recognize and keep our eyes on the prize as john lewis, we need to keep our eyes on the prize we are in a gradual strait of democracy right now. we need a supreme drug justice that's going to stand in the space of being a voice of reason for protecting democracy in this country that's also gonna require people putting
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more pressure on the democratic party. we need the political party to do more work to make sure that they're out front saying that this is an important issue. >> yeah, but texas is one of the battlegrounds to try and secure the right to vote. harris counting being one of the big ones. we're seeing lots and lots of voters being rejected and ballots being rejected. for your final answer here, what do we do about this, this is already law it's already hurting voters? >> we're gonna have to organize like hell. i think it's very important for us to recognize that we are in a -- this isn't about partisan politics. the bottom line is that people are seeking to undermine democracy. we've got to fight. >> you know who's always gonna fight like him, you. latosha brown thank you for all that you do for our democracy. don't moxie defender latosha
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is a day that's already quite sanitized. a celebration how wonderful our presidents were with any of those pesky little details about who owned slaves, or saudi sanction the slaughter of indigenous americans, i put japanese an internment caps. americans learned a very feel-good scrubbed clean version of our history. and with the way things are going with anti history laws were heading in the direction of having them learn even lasts. according to education -- since january 2021, 37 states
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have introduced bills so-called anti critical race theory bills. are limiting how teachers can discuss racism in the states. in 14 states have imposed ban on restrictions including of course florida. the florida house is likely to pass two bills tomorrow limiting topics that can be discussed in public school classrooms. the first one being the states stop -- gap which is said that discrimination the subject any student or employee to training our instruction. -- on behalf of on account of his race or color, or natural origin. -- will students be able to learn about how he won is nearly been dressed by white police on bloody sunday marching for voting rights? or is that too much for white children to handle? the house is also plays the past when opponents are calm and don't say gay bill. which would prohibit discussion of gender or sexual orientation in primary level school. silencing student from talking about their families or providing a safe environment
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for them to ask any questions. it's important to note that members of the right-wing group, moms for liberty, have expressed there in and both the bills. the bills advance to the committee despite propelling testimony against it last week. >> lgbt children are not living in affirming environments, this is perpetuate the idea that gender identity and sexual orientation or something to be ashamed of. >> it would bar soon from talking about their own lives, erase their own existence. >> we know that 42% of lgbtq plus q students attempted suicide last year. that is shocking. imagine being told that your family is illegitimate and should be a race. thank you very much i urge you to vote down this bill. it's gonna cost a lot. >> but somehow the republicans architect of milk has been hit even worse introducing an amendment requiring schools to inform -- whether the child wants it or not. even setting a deadline for schools to do so.
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the bill initially included an exemption of information could lead to abuse, neglect, or abandonment. but the amendment would remove that mechanism. this is incredibly dangerous needless to say for these kids who may not have support to parents and do have the rights to determine how to share that information. so florida's anti history bill as well as lgbtq+ a racial bill, not to mention the states 15-week portion ban that is heading to the senate to, well that all makes the florida republican-led history here tonight's absolute worst. and that's tonight's the reidout all in with chris hayes starts now. reidout all in with chris haye starts tonight on all in vladimir putin escalates in ukraine after an angry televised spectacle. tonight what we know about what's going on as more russian troops move in, and what we know about the american response. deputy national security adviser john finer joins me live. then why is americans loudest mouthpiece rooting for the russian
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