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children to schools with stickers listing their blood types. earlier putin shared this warning, the interest of russia and the security of its citizens are, quote, unconditional. it all comes as the u.s. and our allies unleash a first wave of sanctions. in 30 minutes we expect to hear from speaker pelosi. congress wasn't able to pass preemptive sanctions before an invasion. we're going to watch to see what she has to say now that things have changed. also this morning in minnesota, the federal trial for the former officers charged with violating george floyd's civil rights when he died. jurors get their hands on the case today. and in kentucky, the trial of the only officer charged in connection to the deadly raid that kill brianna taylor, though he is not charged in connection with her death. and new reporting on who
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president biden has interviewed and when he could announce his decision. and soon we could get new mask guidance from the cdc. chicago being the last city to drop its mask mandate. does the science back this up or are we perhaps letting our guard down too soon? we'll start with tensions in eastern europe. courtney kube is at the pentagon, matt bradley is on the ground about 25 miles from the russian border, and retired four-star general barry mccaffrey is with me, a former mmm of the security council and now an msnbc analyst ken, the governor just confirmed a cyber
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attack. >> reporter: the official said a wave of so-called denial of services attacks struck around 4 p.m. ukraine time. among the reported victims are banks and government web sites. colleagues in ukraine have confirmed the web site of the minister of foreign affairs, parliament -- cabinet of foreign affairs and the parliament all are down. and attacks last month took down banks and government web sites and researchers said they contained so-called wiper malware, which can destroy data and systems. they feel this is part of a plan to paralyze systems.
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>> ken dilanian, thank you so much for that reporting. general mccaffrey, i want to talk to you about this hybrid war strategy here. what can the u.s. and our allies do to bolster defenses? this is a different battlefield. >> very little in the short run. we have been working with ukraine for a considerable amount of time, trying to up their ability to handle this sort of thing. russia has a massive presence, in physical and cyber warfare and control a good by of the potential electrical grid in ukraine and a lot of coal supplies that come into ukraine. their ability to destabilize and impact the economy and physically threaten ukraine is considerable. the big next step is will the russian armed forces continue to
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seize the remainder of these two separatist provinces? will they then expand and seize marapol, close off the mayor time borders of ukraine. we're on the edge of what could turn into violent air, land, sea combat. >> i want to show you this update from richard engel literally in the trenches on the front line. >> reporter: these trenches are manned by ukrainian troops. on this side is ukraine and it's controlled by the ukrainian governmentbut just on the other side is the area held by russia-backed separatists and this is the area he is reinforcing with troops and the
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separatists this morning have been firing mortar and artillery over these trenches and commanders here tell us it could be just a matter of hours or days before they launch a conventional attack unless vladimir putin can be deterred. >> matt, we know ukraine is moving forward with a state of emergency. they've even sarted enlisting people betweenage. talk us through how things are accelerating there. >> yeah, it's really interesting because as i've said to you before, people on the ground here have not been all that worried. still today they didn't seem that worried when i was out and about this morning. but there has been a palpable change in perspective, i'll sale, not necessarily in tone because everyone is still pretty calm. they're used to this threat. it's never gone away as my
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colleague richard engel said. that fighting has been going on for the past eight years but people here believe there's going o be an invasion when you've been hearing the drum beat of war, it's hard to believe that people wouldn't have thought that vladimir would have gone ahead with an investigation. now th is about 25 miles from the russian border. but we didder that. president vladimir zelensky gave power to essentially militias that were very, very active in 2014. they played a key role in cities
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taken by russian-backed separatists. they may play a very important role. civilians may play a very important role. nearly half of this country have said in surveys that they're willing to fight. i've spoken to current and former defense officials here, they said that's one of the main strategies they're going to be using. they expect their military to be overwhelmed by the russians in the early hours and days of the fighting and they're spenting to have to launch a grill a style or insurgent campaign against a russian okay paugs. but people here are passionate. i spoke with one reservist near the border with this morning. here's what he had to say. >> translator: we used to have problems getting uniforms and had old soviet equipment. now there's been a big change and we have a lot of weapons and
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vehicles. >> reporter: i was speaking with a woman here and i said how are you not worried? how are you not terrified? >> she said i'm from east ukraine. i don't get terrified until i see a tank in front of my house. >> this time u.s. forces currently stationed in europe, including personnel, including helicopters. where are they going and what does this signal to you strategically? >> the announcement out of the pentagon was a little more vague about where these would be going. one is a new battalion task force. that's about 800 soldiers going from italy to the baltic region. up to eight f-35 strike fighters from germany to other plays around the eastern flank, the baltic region and then 32 apache
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helicopters, attack helicopters. so the two things that really stand out to me in this announcement, lindsey, one is the f-35s. that is the u.s. military's most advanced fighter aircraft. that sends a real signal to the russians that the u.s. is moving these in. they have a strong surveillance capability into addition to the fact that they are attack aircraft. they have the ability to conduct air strikes. by that, i was very struck by the 32 apaches. these are attack helicopters. they only carry two people, the crew on board. they are frequently used for attacking the ground. so in like a conflict area you would see them often doing route clearance or they would be flying over a military convoy in a dangerous area making sure that no attacks come in and target a u.s. military convoy. they're also -- they can be used for border, luke they could be
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flying along the border with poland, for instance, poe lund is very concern if. as one u.s. official said to me, that your tank killers. they would be up in the air if there was a concern russia would spill into it suggests the u.s. intelligence that russia is focused on ukraine right now. but these two assets really send a signal. it's not just about shoring up the defenses of these nato allies in the baltic region. more than that it's about showing that the u.s. military is there and they have a capability to stop russia if they decide to start spilling over outside of ukraine. >> general, pick up where courtney left off in terms of this equipment and what it signals to you as well. >> well, i think it's a very deliberate and cautious step by secretary austin and the
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department of defense to tell the russians, look, we're going to stand with our art and in theory we all have a treaty obligation to come to the assistance of each other if attacked. i'd add to what courtney said, that the one-parachute entry point is an absolute will political statement that should you invade the baltic state, you'll be fighting our american soldier from day one. at the end of the day, the most significant thing that's happened now is the growing unity of nato. germany and france and the u.k. being the principal u.s. partners to stand together and to say we'll support economic sanctions and we'll commit to
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resisting russian aggression. that does not include fighting inside ukraine, which president biden has properly said we will not do. we're not a european union nation, they're not part of nato. >> matt, i want to go to you on the ground in moscow. put putin delivered an address saying the interest of russia and security of its citizens are, quote, unconditional. you watch and pay attention to a lot of state media. what does he mean by that and what does that signal for where his mindset is right now? >> reporter: thank you, lindsey. well, this is basically -- what we're seeing from the kremlin now is that continually reiteration of those very initial demands that we were back in december made of night nato, of ukraine as well. we're seeing the military threats constantly increasing. there's really no illusions now. vladimir putin is seriously
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considering just based on all of his actions what he's been saying, the troop movements, the recognition of those breakaway states in eastern ukraine, he is telegraphing that he is serious. the one thing that we've known about him is his general kind of strategy going back throughout his entire presidency is to kind of push the limits, issue some demands and see what he can get away with. i think we're seeing kind of a formulation of that now. his preferred outcome that is those demands are simply meant. he's not allowing them to disappear under the table as arms control negotiation with the united states and nato. he wants the full package but he's signaling still, you can just meet every single one of my demands. >> thank you all so much for
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starting us off. we're going to have much more coverage of the ukraine crisis this hour, including the debate on capitol hill over whether the sanctions do enough to punish and/or deter vladimir putin. plus, we're watching two trials this morning, of formers police officers. and in louisville, the trial is just starting today for one of the officers involved in the raid that killed brianna taylor, but he's not charged with taylor's death. we'll break it down. taylor's death we'll break it down.
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failing to intervene when chauvin held his knee on george floyd's neck. during closing arguments, the prosecution said they did nothing. the defense argued they were inexperienced, not trained properly. we know there's a high bar for. explain what that is and what these federal lawyers have to prove. >> the high bar is based on the culture of accountability when it comes to the police p police. the police was like we were just following orders. it didn't work in nuremberg but
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it did work in america. two of you should have stopped chauvin. it's a harder argument i think to make than to say, look, all three of you should have helped the man once you realized he was in critical condition and let's go back to some of the most memorable testimony from the first trial, the 9-year-old who said chauvin wouldn't get off of floyd even when the pair paramedics asked him nicely. they said that they asked chauvin to roll him over and he said he was fine. is that enough? >> i think it's persuasive for a jury that doesn't want to hold bystander officers responsible. we've seen those directly responsible for causing death
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held accountable. we haven't seen the ones standing by watching being held accountable. i would say history favors the officers in this trial. >> the three men face a separate trial in june for aiding and abetting manslaughter. how will this be different than this federal trial? >> they didn't provide medical aid and didn't inconvenient when they should have. when they go back to state court, they're on trial for what they did, they participated in the killing of george floyd. they're two very different circumstances that they're on trial for. they both play a role in policing in our country. in louisville, opening statements for the officer in the trial of the officers charged with killing breonna
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taylor. the officer is accused of recklessly firing into her apartment. prosecutors say he fired ten rounds. none of the bullets his taylor. david henderson, bringing you back with me, breonna taylor's case became very high profile, we all remember "say her name" during the protest. nearly two years later, this is the only officer being tried. >> the officers who are actually responsible for taylor's death were not charged, they were
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cleared. it's important to understand this case is not justice for taylor. if the defense attorneys are smart, breonna's name will never be mention ld in the course of this trial. the superior officer said, hey, you fired your gun so dangerously in public that you could hurt or killed someone. you fired at taylor's apartment so badly in such a dangerous way, you put the people in the next door apartment at risk. so he's charged with putting the people next door to breonna at risk. >> hankinson's lawyer said he will testify. there's no body camera to show here. what are the challenges here for the prosecution and defense? >> the challenge here for the prosecution is simple as saying you've got to hold him
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accountable despite the fact the harm that we're afraid of did not actually occur. it hopes to think of it in a totally different context. year ago i -- here the church window wasn't actually broken. he's charged at putting three people next door to breonna taylor at risk. so it's possible the jury will say he didn't put breonna in danger so why should we charge him? >> coming up, we'll look at how russian sanctions will impact
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(swords clashing) over to the u.n., linda thomas greenfield is addressing the general assembly. let's listen in. >> has russia heeded these calls? no. instead it has responded with additional actions to undermine ukraine's sovereignty, including mass disinformation, which we just heard again today, cyber attacks and efforts to create a false flag pretext in addition to russia' overwhelming military buildup of more than 150,000 troops near ukraine's border.
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russia's actions have only confirmed what we and other nations have been warning about. other u.n. member states must recognize the threat before us all today before it's too late. colleagues, there's no middle ground here. calling for both sides to de-escalate only gives russia a pass. russia is the aggressor here. history tells us looking the other way is ultimately the more costly path and we look only to look across the past decade for an indication of the path that russia is taking. since 2014, russia has occupied crimea following its illegal invasion and fueling ongoing
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military conflicts in eastern ukraine. in recent years, including president putin's remarks this week, russian leaders have claimed that ukraine is not a real country. they have questioned its right to exist. russia's actions are an unpro vekd it threatens every member state and the u.n. itself. colleagues, president putin gave us the clearest indication of his intentions on monday when he asked the world to travel back in time by more than a hundred years before the united nations even existed to an age of
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empires. he asserted that russia can recolonize its neighbors and that he will use force to make a farce of the united states. the united states rejects that firmly. this is 2022. we're not going back to an era of empires and colonies or to the ussr or the soviet union. we have moved forward, and we must ensure as the permanent representative from kenya that the embers of dead empires to not ignite new forms of of oppression embodiments. unfortunately the fake reality that russia wants to create is already having real consequences. who date, russia's war in ukraine has already killed more than 13,000 people. nearly 3 million ukrainians,
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half of whom are elderly people and children need shoot, and they should be asking how many russian lives putin is willing to sacrifice to, it could create a new refugee crisis, one of the largest facing the world today with as many as 5 million more people displaced by russia's war of choice and putting pressure on ukraine's neighbors. and because ukraine is one of the world's largest wheat suppliers, especially for the developing world, russia's actions could lead to a spike in food prices and lead to more horror in places like libya,
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yemen and lebanon. the tidal wave of suffering this war will cause are unthinkable. then there's at broader threat that russians and call into question. our funtle principles of sovereignty, diplomacy and tear tearial integrity. unfortunately despite these world altering outcomes, russia appears determined to proceed. immediately i don't know has taken decisive action to make the cost of russia's actions crystal clear. but as much as we all want russia to de-escalate and choose the path of peace, that is not our choice to make. this is president putin's war of
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choice. if he chooses to escalate further, russia and russia alone will bear full responsibility for what is to come. what we can do together today is make clear that russia will pay an even steeper price if it continue this aggression, that responsible countries do not bully their nans into sub that former empires cannot lay claim to. the very first line of the u.n. charter states "we are uniting together, quote, determined to save succeeding generations from the scourge of what." this right here right now is a moment. it is a moment when we can save this and the next from that terrible fate.
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colleagues, now is not the time to sit on the sidelines. now is the time to get off the sidelines. let us together show russia that it is isolated and alone in its aggressive actions. let us stand fully behind the principles of sovereignty, political independence and territorial integrity for ukraine and for all member states. let us show russia that every other u.n. member state believes it is time to declat, to come back to the in the and work towards peace so that ukrainians can live in security and the tenents have been upheld for future generations to come. >> that he. >> i want to bring in capitol hill correspondent leann caldwell and michael crowley.
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i'm going to start with you in re. he will use force to mac a farz out of the united nations. reading we're united together, determine to save succeeding generations from the scourge of war. did you get a feeling she was trying to light aify. >> yeah, absolutely. it's interesting, you know, the. secretary blinken did go there, i guess it was last week and made an unexpected visit to a meeting of the unsecurity council and will and there was a very moving speech bip the representative from kenya. either yesterday or the day before, that ra within i think
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this -- the larger point is that vladimir putin is not interested in it in if and he is going to face sanctions for what he's done if frng and i don't really care about these rules that the west has constructed. they don't mo. because they don't want to risk starting world war iii. >> we're going to dive into your analysis, talking about just that, but leann, we're also watching capitol hill because nanny to any step pg if and what kind of tangible action can we expect from lawmakers more broadly? >> hey.
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so i don't expect any sort of big announcement from speaker pelosi, but we are going to be watching very closely what she says. there a's could. we know that democrats and republicans are both supportive of very stringent kak. sfchl and democrats have pretty much held their fire for the time being, saying they're spob, we should expect spoker pelosi to try to present a united saying this issing if to be and united on the administration's
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actions. er in thing i'm going to be listening to her for is an. sfp that ro as far as aid is concerned, weapons and perhaps speaker pelosi has mority tails on that. politics are entering into this as well but the democrats are hoping to keep the congress as united as possible and sanctioning tw what congress can do is give a shore? if we don't put that head line up and it talks about whether these sanctions will even do
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anything to detur or punish compute on. may not suffer month nm f dpm yeah, is he when you're talking about the sanctions that right now see plausible from the u.s. and the west, and by that i mean sanctions against the financial sector, technology, export controls and things like that that do not include trying to cut off russia's energy exports, which is a more serious matter but not going to happen any time soon. when you're talking about those, they're really not going to hit putin and the elites very hard. they have learned to insulate their economy in various ways. russia has essentially been saving for a rainy day for many years. it has tremendous cash reserves
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the oligarchs are so wealthy, they can live in a very luxurious bubble, wherever they are. the eu dhaef joseph burrel twiced a saying there will be no maher frermt but and i'll go to an incredible resort in crimea or sochi. they'll live a very nice life no matter what. it's sort of inconvenient. the more you close off russia's economy from the rest of the world, the more you impact some power who have controls of the that you need to pro it's really
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hard to crack that inner circle. what you could do to try to cause more damage to putin is to really crush the russian economy and cause wide discontent in a way that could threaten his standards. i don't know the measures nat u.s. is looking at right now, particularly by leaving some of these energy sanctions. >> we'll have to leave it there. thank you. we'll hear much more from linda thomas greenfield in our next hour. she'll be talking to andrea mitchell on "andrea mitchell reports." that's today at 12:00 p.m. eastern. president biden is on track to announce his decision announn
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an associate professor of critical care medicine at the university of virginia. so, we're seeing new covid cases drop, deaths are are down more than 25% in that same time. so, dropping these mandates make sense to you right now? >> you know it's one of these things i've said all along. we're obsessed with the death of covid-19. not recognizing there's more consequences than just death. if you look at the number of deaths reported due the back log from president's day, 3,014 americans that died within the span. and the question is why are we rolling back our precautions when we see that last year -- we have a year's worth of data to look at. last year in january and february, it started to subside in the end of february and march and then we relaxed and had a
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blip in april and got it together and by june/july we said if you're vaccinated, take your mask off and in july, that's when delta welcomed itself and killed hundreds of thousands of americans at this point. we have to pause before we make these rash decisions to start lifting the regulatory measures by which we're trying to mitigate the spread of the virus. we don't know the long-term consequences of infection itself. and when we don't have 1,000 americans die a day. >> we're getting research about long covid and the "washington post" details about what it's been like for covid survivors. she's 44. never had heart issues. now her heart rate is jumping to 210 beats just while sitting and relaxing. and the president of the
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american heart center said we're e pecting a tidal wave of cardio vascular events. and what do people who have had covid need to keep an eye on? >> again, covid is not just a long disease. it literally causes inflammation of all organs. there's a study of 153,000 veterans at the va hospital and what they found is regardless of age, gender, regardless whether or onot you had preexisting conditions, they saw an increase of 363% higher risk of heart attacks and aflutter, for those that see the commercials, an increase of 52% higher risk of stroke and heart failure. so, this is not something that we should take lithely, considering we have 78 million americans. and of those persons, they're
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despite first round of sanctions and secretary blinken sayings there is no reason to show up. >> and on banks throughout the day. this morning at the u.n. general assembly meeting, u.s. ambassador slamming russia for its brazen play for large areas of eastern ukraine. >> russia's actions have only confirmed what we and other nations have been warning about. other u.n. member states must recognize the threat before us all today before it's too late. colleagues, there's no middle ground here. calling for both sides to deescalate only gives russia a pass.
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