good to be with you. i am katy tur. as we come on the air, ukraine braces for war as a senior american defense official warns, they are ready to go now. russia has brought in, quote, nearly 100% of ale the forces the u.s. anticipated vladimir putin would need for a large-scale invasion. ukraine's security council is now preparing a 30-day state of emergency. the government also urged all ukrainians to leave russia immediately and started calling up military reservists between

the ages of 18 and 60. as the country prepared for a physical invasion, its government websites were targeted with cyberattacks which are consistent with a type of attack russia would carry out in an effort to destabilize ukraine. the russian flag is no longer flying outside of the ukrainian embassy. >> it is with a heavy heart that we all need to admit the grim reality of a new aggression through rising europe. the beginning of a large-scale war in ukraine will be the end of the world order as we know

it. russia will not stop at ukraine. >> with this conflict nearing a tipping point, ukrainian civilians are getting ready. there are reports of parents sending their children to school with stickers listing their blood types. at a pro-ukrainian rally, richard engel spoke with a man and wife. >> i can say i have all of our documents with me in my backpack in case something else starts, and i feel brave because i know these people will never give up? >> do you think he will stop? >> i am afraid he will keep going. >> what does that mean for you and the people here? >> it doesn't mean it's a time of peace, it's a time of

sadness, of war, of death. >> later this hour we will speak with a ukrainian that has reason to fear a russian occupation, and she's a former member of the parliament and says she's on russia's kill list. matt bodner and courtney and richard engel joins us. >> reporter: he's preparing the battlefield for a wider invasion is what commanders told me. the front line has gotten much hotter over the last several days, and what we saw completely

contradicts the russian narrative. and the reason they have all their troops around ukraine is because ukraine is attacking separatists and is threatening russia's national security, but when we were there in the trenches, we saw just the opposite. it was the separatists who were attacking ukraine and they are attacking them in a way they have not done in the past. sometimes the rounds are closer than others. it's not a good sign when you can hear that whistle of an incoming shell. those are being fired -- those are coming from the separatists areas and landing inside ukraine, coming right over this trench. this village has been hit hard

over the last four or five days, and about half the people have moved out already. >> there's the door. >> so it came in this direction? >> yes. [ sounds of gunfire ] [ speaking foreign language ] [ speaking foreign language

>> reporter: so that's what it's like to be in one of the front line villages. all of a sudden, boom, boom, boom, from the separatists areas. i think there must have been 20, 30 rounds that came in the span of ten minutes. luckily the village is not that inhabited, but there are soldiers there and you never know where they are going to land or explode. when we left, the village was once again attacked with not only yao tillery and mortars,

but rocket fire. >> the biden administration said these steps are another piece of our initial trench of sanctions in response to russia's actions in ukraine. more sanctions against nord stream, too. any indication of this is detouring vladimir putin, matt? >> thank you, katy. i would say no. from the russian perspective, just the way they talk about it even at the top level, just last week putin explaining to reporters in moscow that russia spent the last eight years after the initial round of sanctions trying to fortify themselves, fortify their financial system, for example, against the impact of the future western sanctions, and they are categorically against them for obvious reasons and we're also kind of -- they

kind of laugh at them, to be honest. i think the experience of most russians is they have not had the kind of biting impact that the authors and proponents of sanctions sometimes hope they will have, and what i mean to say is they sort of lack the deterrence they are presumed to have or hoped to have. that said, we have not seen some of the sanction, some serious high-level sanctions, and there's sanctions about consumer technology goods sold in russia, and part of the reason is they have not seen some of the stronger restrictions it can be, and there's a feeling of that's the best you can do, we can take it. they are talking about counter sanctions of their own, and we heard a statement from the

foreign industry saying there's no doubt that it will be a strong response to these sanctions, and not necessarily symmetrical, but it will be felt. that could be russia using their status as a provider of natural resources, for example, in some kind of sanctioned response. that's the lay of the land on that particular question. >> richard just spoke on how it appears the russians are softening ukraine in preparation for an attack, and on russian state tv, how are the people of russia being prepared for this? >> in a sense they are being softened as well. they are being hit with a constant narrative of provocations from the ukrainian side, constant allegations of

atrocities being committed by the ukrainian military against the people, and there's prop against the ukrainians, and there's in depth discussion about a lot of the historical theories on ukrainian's statehood that we heard from russian president, vladimir putin, on monday, amounting to an explanation over and over again as why ukraine as a sovereign state is a historical anomaly from the government's perspective here. they even had a graphic map up on russian state television earlier today showing you ukraine and which parts had been gifted to ukraine over the years. so basically you are seeing all these things. what we are essentially waiting for at this moment is kind of like the big story, the big

accusation of a massive ukrainian offensive or some kind of atrocity that is finally used to justify to the russian people, again, what we are fearing russia is going to do. >> richard, i want you to respond to that, and there's so much misinformation there, and ukrainians, be clear what you are seeing with your own eyes and reporting out there in eastern ukraine. >> the russian narrative is the ukrainian government is carrying out a genocide against the russian-speaking people of ukraine. it simply is not happening. we have been in this country for several months now and driving up and down the front line areas, i am in a city that is

predominantly russian speaking. there's no genocide going on here. we have not seen it, and we have not seen anybody who has seen it and there's no evidence that it's happening. the separatists also claim that there are no russian troops inside their area, that has been false for the last eight years and it is even less true today after russia acknowledged the supposed sovereignty of those areas and sent in more troops. the russian narrative just simply and very basically is not true. >> let's dip into the state department. >> as we have said, diplomacy cannot succeed unless russia changes course. as we have said, we are prepared. we are prepared for any contingency going forward.

>> thanks. i have a question about the sanctions and it's largely symantec, so i will leave that until later. on nord stream 2, you guys have been saying for months, indeed for over a year since the waivers were first granted that this gave you additional leverage and would serve as a deterrent. clearly it didn't -- they didn't provide you with any leverage at all that we can tell because of what you just said in your opening statement about the invasion beginning. so how do you explain to people why you didn't impose these sanctions earlier? >> so matt, it's important, and let's just rewind the tape and remember what has happened in recent hours. yesterday within a short timeframe of the russian invasion beginning, germany took

decisive, resolute action to take nord stream two off the tapeable. we always said in the steps we are taking with partners and allies around the world, that one of the most important tools we have in our arsenal is transatlantic unity, and the fact that germany acted so quickly and decisively is in many ways a product of the consultation. starting with chancellor merkel and her government, and in more recent months we have had concerted discussions with chancellor schultz and his government, and the fact that we are acting in unison immediately to take these steps to remove

nord stream from the equation, that's a by-product and a result of the work we have done together with the german government over the course of the last several months, over the course of the last year or so. >> correct me if i am wrong, but your argument is that if you had imposed the sanctions earlier the germans would not have -- the germans would not have done what they did yesterday or it would have been a much bigger lift to get them to do that? >> what we have said, and our strategy has been predicated on the knowledge that transatlantic unity is the most powerful strategy we have. >> the pipeline has already been built, and whether it gets turned on or not -- presumably you had more leverage, and i don't know why you would have had more leverage if sanctioned

had been imposed before the pipeline was finished. >> matt, you also raise a good point. the pipeline when this administration came into office was 90% complete, and we imposed sanctioned on a number of targets associated with this pipeline, persons and entities, but the fact is had we sanctioned its corporate office holders, it's far from clear that that would have kept the pipeline from going into operation. what the germans did yesterday was to ensure that the pipeline is no longer part of the equation. so by acting together with the germans, how we did, when we did and the way in which we did, we have ensured that this is an $11 billion prize investment that is now a hunk of steel sitting at the bottom of the sea.

>> that cannot be proven. you don't know if imposing sanctions earlier would have had more of a deterrent affect -- >> the secretary canceled his meeting with lavrov, but you remain open for diplomacy. what would you want to see from russia in order to reschedule that meeting and in order to resume some kind of diplomacy, you know, diplomatic agreement between you, and just additionally, this is the last sanctions, the nord stream 2 sanctions that just came out, so is there more coming, more actions that will be taken if

russia doesn't escalate further from where it is now? >> the question you ask is what we would like to see. let me start answering that question by letting you know what we no longer will engage in, and that's the pretense of diplomacy. you heard the secretary use that phrase yesterday and that is what we have seen. this is and has been in some ways diplomatic theater on the part of the russians, making statements that they are committed to a diplomatic path while their actions suggest exactly the opposite. that's not an environment in which diplomacy can achieve the results that it needs to achieve. our goal here, even as the russian invasion of ukraine is beginning, is to avert the worst-case scenario, the worst-case scenario that we have

warned about for sometime now, and we have gone into great detail in terms of what that could look like, electronic warfare, a fuller scare invasion, an attack on major urban centers including kyiv, the city of 2.9 million people. horrific human rights abuses and potential war crimes, and these are all things even as the invasion is beginning, we are going to do everything that we reasonably can to prevent from happening. so that's why together with our allies and partners, we absolutely remain open to diplomacy, but only if moscow is serious. we are not going to engage in this pretense with them during which they draw out the process,

suggest one thing and do another, ready their preparations, move their forces closer to the border, develop and refine their plans as they give the world a head-fake that they are actually committed to the diplomatic path. now there are a number of ways that moscow could indicate that it's serious. it essentially boils down to de-escalation. that would be the most concrete, the clearest indication that diplomacy has the potential to bear fruit and to save lives. that is the kind of diplomacy we are interested in. that's also not the kind of diplomacy that we have seen any indication as of yet that moscow is interested. >> there are reports that the ukrainian government, an attack could happen as soon as tonight and that the russian troops

could attack tonight? >> what i will say about the reports is they are entirely consistent with what we have been saying for sometime now, and they have positioned their weaponry and soldiers and service members they would need to undertake an invasion of ukraine at a moment's notice. that has been true for sometime now. for several days now we have said the invasion is potentially imminent, meaning it could start today. it could start tomorrow. it could start next week. what we haven't seen, and this goes back to simon's question is any indication that the russians are backing away from this. we have not seen any data points that alleviate the grave concern, the profound concern that we have been expressing for sometime now. the invasion remains potentially

imminent and moscow is poised to do the things that you just outlined. >> with this notion of diplomacy still on the table and now you're saying it's possible that -- how can you justify discussions about their diplomacy when this is under way? you keep saying the russians have to show they are serious and they have to de-escalate, but could they pause things right now and possibly engage in talks with the u.s., or does a significant scale back have to happen? is dombas different?

>> when we spoke about the beginning of the invasion, we talked about several developments in that 24-hour period, and vladimir putin's recognition of the dnr and lnr, and the order that he conveyed to the ministry of defense to deploy forces into the donbas, and the authorization of service members, and the rhetorical assault, essentially, that we saw president putin deliver against ukraine, denning ukraine its sovereignty and essentially its right to exist. those are what we have seen and heard, but as i just mentioned,

there are many things that russia is poised to do at a moment's notice that we have not yet seen, a large-scale invasion, and an assault on the urban centers and the human rights abuses that we are concerned could take place. these are all things that we want to prevent. you asked the question, why would we engage in diplomacy? we engage in diplomacy to save lives, to prevent an all-out war. this is a war that would be brutal. it would be costly. it would in many ways be costly for the russian federation and the ukrainian people, in a way in which the russian federation would -- it would not be a conflict over territory or over

concrete ends. you heard the national security adviser make the case that this would be a war waged against the ukrainian people to subject them, to crush them, to exact, in many ways, revenge. >> this is from the state department, saying the united states has seen no indication whatsoever that russia is pulling back. again, reiterating the reporting that we have that russia is prepared to invade and could do so at any moment. back with me now is matt bodner and courtney kube at the pentagon. >> this is not a surprise. for days we have been hearing russia built-up more than 150,000 troops around the border, and it's not just the troops that are the concern but it's the capabilities that many

are bringing. there's a massive navel presence in the south of ukraine as well. at least ten russian landing ships, and not only do they have marines and troops onboard, but they have missiles onboard, so they can launch and take out large parts of the ukrainian military with virtually no notice and quickly. in addition to that, russia has a massive amount of air power around ukraine, so if they conduct air strikes, again, they could take out military targets and ammunition depots, and take out ukrainian infrastructure quickly and with little notice, and that's what has changed in the past few days. here at the pentagon, we had this sense for sometime, for weeks now, where we would know there would be an idea that russia was preparing something and we would see tell tell

signs, and artillery being fired up, and that kind of thing. all of that is done. they are at that stage of ready right now. 80% of the russian forces that are around ukraine right now are ready to attack, so that is what has changed. not only could it happen quickly here, but the west and the people who have been watching this so closely for so long won't necessarily know it's happening with much notice. that's how the posture changed, what i have noticed, in the past several days, katy. >> that's interesting, courtney. what about the military machinery being put in place along nato countries in the eastern part of europe. what do we read into that? >> that's another thing that really watched in the past few days in watching it from here. yes, thousands -- 5,000 or so

troops have come from the united states, and 5,000 or so are already in europe, and strikers and vehicles and those kinds of things, and now just yesterday the u.s. announced they would send f-35s, about eight, and 32 apache attackers, and that's why significant, f-35s are the best of the attack fighter aircraft they could send, and that sends a real message to russia that the u.s. is putting those forward in the baltic region. and the apaches, they are tank killers. if any tanks, troops, equipment or anything starts to roll across the border into ukraine, poland, lithuania, there will be

u.s. military helicopters that can take them out. it's a very specific signal. they can also put the apaches up to patrol borders for that very reason. i have to point out two important things here. number one, there's still no indication according to the officials i spoke with, putin intends to go further than ukraine, and all the officials who i am speaking with here are saying there's no intention to send any u.s. military into ukraine for any reason. but, again, these apaches, these helicopters and fighter jets, that's a real signal, more than just -- beyond the troops they sent in, essentially as a trip wire telling russia do not cross these borders because the

american military is there. >> yeah, the reminder to pay attention to what they do along with what they say. thank you for joining me. and joining us now, the original leader of ukraine in 2013 and 2014. thank you for being here. first off, i want to get your reaction to the sanctions that have so far been imposed and now the additional sanctions on nord stream two. >> it's very important to stop the energy, because to putin energy is a way to stop that, we will stop putin's approach to divide and rule and use energy as a weapon to divide europe union and also nato allies, and let me remind, nord stream two, it's a danger for the baltic states because putin could use

nord stream to invade or to create a threat for baltic states, which are members of nato. >> what is it like in kyiv right now? we have had reporters there for the past few weeks and for so long it was business as usual and people did not believe anything was imminent and they were feeling that maybe this was all being trumped up by the west. what is it like now? >> people are ready to win. we are preparing for ukraine's victory over the aggressive state. they wanted to part a history of ukraine, and pretend that we are one nation or belong to one people, so this is not correct and i think this is time for

ukrainians to stop putin's aggressive behavior, finally, because this is not in the future of their rationalization, and what putin is doing is the gain of russian population, and for russia, they have bigger enemy, they are neighbors, and china, how i say -- i think it's really important now to see how the uk can have leadership skppl lead it to unity, and -- to avoid a scenario like that in ukraine, so i am told the sanction against nord stream 2, elites, banks, and also we have

to block putin, and asking governments of uk, italy, france and germany to freeze assets. >> we have american intelligence saying there was a list that russia has, a kill list, a capture list, and you tell us you have reason to believe that you are on it. >> actually from 2016, i am on a russian sanction list. i was the initiator of the ukrainian parliament to the un to over see an international organization, to condemn putin's actions against indigenous

people in leading the russian federation, and i also receive many signals that i have to leave kyiv and find a more safe place, because actually people like me with all of my foreign affairs portfolio, so we are on the list. i am staying in kyiv, and i think we have to be here and to demonstrate that we will defend our country and we will never allow putin to return ukraine back to the russian sphere -- >> the kremlin says no such list exists. one more question for you. we had some reporting from one of my colleagues, matt bradley, along the eastern edge of ukraine, and saying the ukrainian army will get run over by the russian army and it would turn into guerilla warfare with

every day ukrainian civilians. is that what you expect to happen, civilians taking up arms to defend your country? >> actually, you mentioned about this list, many ukrainians activists were kidnapped and killed. for example, a friend of mine, he later became a member of parliament and he was tortured and we have this experience like eight years ago, what happened in the capital of ukraine during the dignitary revolution. this is hybrid warfare. and putin, besides military attacks, he might use cyberattacks and the russian

provocation, remember, 2014 in odessa, there was a claim of putin that included odessa and access to the black sea. this plan failed, and i am sure that now all attempts of putin to invade ukraine again and also to take that will fail again. >> we wish you luck and hope you will stay safe. thank you for joining us. >> yes. we just learned senators will receive a call tomorrow, and joining me now is jake sherman. jake, what is the discussion about sanctions on capitol hill?

are lawmakers happy with what they have seen so far or are they pushing for more? >> i would say they are pretty happy, katy. there is a keen awareness right now among the people that i have talked to on the democratic and republican side on the need to stay unified in such a high-stakes global situation, and they are calling for more. joe biden has significant sanction authority, very significant. he did what he did yesterday and today without the go ahead of congress because he's allowed to. the question will turn to whether congress needs to give the president additional sanction authority, and that's where the conversation will center around next week. that's what we are going to hear a lot about. remember, next week is a pretty high-stakes week in domestic politics, too. we are going to most likely -- if we believe what the -- the

question will become is what the president does between yesterday and next week, is that enough or does congress believe he needs more authority. he's taken the nord stream sanctions, they were cheered, even by senator ted cruz who is hardly a fan of joe biden. >> thank you so much. coming up, why are children still facing more covid restrictions than their parents are? emily auster joins us. what is being done about the highest gas prices in seven years? t gas prices in seven t gas prices in seven years?

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the crisis in ukraine is now hitting the global economy. u.s. oil surged to the highest price in more than seven years yesterday, hitting almost $100 a barrel. that means if you are in new york city right now, gas costs $3.78 a gallon. in europe, gases spiked 14%, putting financial pressure on european citizens.

joining me now is senior national correspondent and anchor of "worldwide exchange," brian sullivan. thank you for sticking with us. i know we had delays in our coverage. i appreciate it. talk to me how we are going to feel the economic affects of what we are seeing happening in ukraine and russia? >> well, first off, katy, if you are paying under $5 gallon in los angeles, good for you because it's 5 bucks are higher in certain areas. here's the dirty little secret. i know this is a narrative that this is causing prices to go up, and not yet. katy, the prices that we are seeing now whether it's for meat or gas or chickens or whatever it might be, those are from the past. those are from supply and demand, covid and reopening and whatever. the russia impact has been felt marginally in the oil futures

market, maybe a couple bucks a barrel. it has not yet trickled through. this is going to be bad news for things like carmakers, katy, because cars are made of a few things, steel, which is made from nickel and russia controls that, and aluminums and plastic prices are soaring and the ripple affect of this is yet to be felt. >> you are right, if you get under $5 in los angeles, i am seeing prices over $6 in los angeles. depends on where you are trying to find your gas. the sanctions are being felt at home and overseas, since europe is so dependent on russian energy. brian, thank you so much for joining us today. >> sure. thank you. covid cases are falling and fast. new infections plummeted 90%

from the pandemic record just from five weeks ago, and states across the country are lifting mask mandates. the cdc is expected to announce its own mask guidance right now, and there's one group largely being left odd of the loosening guidelines, and that's kids. it's causing tension between parents, teachers and administrators. joining me is a professor of economics at brown university, and the author of a lot of books, the most recent "the family firm." i love having you on because you come to me with hard numbers and data that allows somebody like me, whether i am pregnant or raising a kid to make the best decisions i can understanding the risks. talk to me about the data we have now on covid transmission in schools coupled with the data that we have on house sick kids

get from this disease? >> so i think the good news is that on both of those dimensions, we are seeing -- we see good news about kids. in general, kids are at low risk from covid, the covid hospitalization rates, and the lowest risk are kids 5 to 11 in school, and those who are unvaccinated have risks that are -- you can see it in this graph here, the serious illness risks are low. in addition we have seen months and months and months -- years, really, of schools being open in some form with low transmission rates, and that is an encouraging sign that should help parents feel confident sending their kids to school. >> a lot of schools have guidelines for masks for kids

even playing outside. >> it does not make sense for kids to wear masks outside, and we have understood that for well over a year now. the kids masking at recess doesn't make sense at all. we are getting to a point where we are starting to understand removing the mask in indoor settings and the discussion for removing masks outdoors should have been talked about a long time ago. >> a lot of parents have kids under five, i am one of them and not able to get the vaccine and they are nervous that their kids are at higher risks. what have we seen in that age range? >> that age range is at a slightly higher risk, and that age group, even though they are

unvaccinated is more of a risk for their vaccinated parents, and this is a low-risk group for serious or symptomatic risks at all. i hope we will see vaccines for that group of kids, but in some sense it would be a mistake to say that we should hold up everything for the vaccines given the low risk in that group. >> emily, so happy you came and gave us the cold hard numbers. i have to say, you got me through two pregnancies with expecting better, and i appreciate it very much. happy to have you on whenever you have something new to share with us. thank you, emily. >> thank you, katy, and nice to see you. china calls for calm but stops short of condemning russia's invasion of ukraine. n e

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♪♪ when russia ordered troops into eastern ukraine, china found itself walking a thin line. xi jinping now has to balance his close ties with russian president vladimir putin with china's desire to maintain a lucrative and expanding trade relationship with europe. and more specifically, ukraine. then there's the hard line china has taken with separatists. in their own backyard. in regions like tibet, hong kong and taiwan. jackie macke frier has more. >> reporter: there was xi jinping and vladimir putin standing by by tide at the opening of the olympics. they issued a joint staggering statement that proclaimed no

limits to friendship and cooperation. it didn't mention ukraine by name. and it wasn't a formal pact, but recruitment was open support by xi jinping and proclamation of what they called their common interests. now what's happening in ukraine, china is in an awkward position. the leadership all but disappeared for a week, no doubt discussing how far china is willing to go to back putin. there are real risks for china's economy. including the possibility of sanctions and eu extending to china if seen backing russia. china also has good ties with ukraine, big trade deals and significant investments there so it's by no means a straight and unfeathered line between beijing and moscow. the relationship between russia and moscow, still with these two in power, it's a complicated relgszship. so far the official statements

here have been been very generic, calling for all sides to calm down. and blaming the u.s. for hyping up war in ukraine. there's also vigorous debate about high costs of china backing russia. >> let's the previous director of defense strategy and requirements at the national security council. corey, good to have you. let's talk about china. how does the u.s. see china right now in this conflict? >> well, the united states would certainly like china to stand beside it on these -- on the sanctions, but the chinese, as your correspondent pointed out, are blaming the united states for tensions. and have already said that they're not going to participate in any sanctions against russia. so, i think it doesn't look as complicated to me as it looked to your correspondent. the chinese are perfectly

comfortable being hypocritical and they want to stay out of all of this, because they, like the russians, want america's alliance relationships to collapse, and they, like the russians, want to pretend that ukraine and taiwan aren't independent countries so they've got a lot of interest aligning with the russians on this. >> can they float russia if we impose sanctions on russia, can china float them? >> that is a fabulous question. i don't think so. china can certainly buy all of russia's oil fields. but they can't provide the technology that the russian oil industry needs in order to continue modernizing itself. they can provide, i don't think -- i don't think they can provide a substitute to access to western capital markets. so, technology, capital markets

that are so much more deeper and more fluid i think those are things china actually can't substitute for. >> let's talk about technology. because there have been discussions out there that there can be technological sanctions coming from the united states, imposed on russia. stuff that would make it harder for them to operate. in this modern society that we are currently living in. what's holding back a set of sanctions like that? >> i think it's sanctions like that are under serious consideration by the united states. and its nato allies. i think they are holding back, because they want something in reserve to continue to threaten the russians with. to try and prevent a full-scale invasion of ukraine, or the destruction of the city of kyiv. or any of the horrible things that russia may yet have in store for the suffering people of ukraine. >> kori, what's your read on

vladimir putin right now? >> evil. and actually doing real damage to russia. as well as doing damage to the european security order. you know, the thing that's a mystery for me is why did he make demands that the west couldn't possibly agree to? in return for withdrawing from ukraine. and the fact that he couldn't have reasonably expected that we and our european allies would agree to that suggests to me that he wants to invade ukraine. and there's very little we can do to prevent him. all we can do -- especially since president biden has ruled out the united states playing any kind of military role in the defense of ukraine. i mean, we can't prevent him from doing it. we can just drive up the cost of what he will do. and make russia pay an enormous penalty that will hopefully

diminish vladimir putin's hold on russia. >> you know, a ukrainian top diplomat at the u.n. warned the west it's not just ukraine. they believe vladimir putin has his sights beyond ukraine. do you think nato is threatened? >> yes, i do think nato is threatened. and that's the reason that the united states, and its nato allies, are reinforcing the baltic states in particular. and also poland. because these are front line states, looking down the barrel of russian aggression. and we have made a commitment that an attack on them would be considered an attack on us. and so, i think it's really important that we take their security concerns seriously, because russia is doing everything they can to destabilize europe. and make everybody afraid. >> baltic states, lithuania and latvia, kori schake, great to have you. thanks for joining us.

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