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trading partner for us but we've got a global supply chain. they are one of the biggest exporter of wheat and corn. that will impact getting things in the shelves here in the u.s. inflation wasn't a good thing yesterday and it's even worse tomorrow. >> stephanie, can i just say you're the greatest? >> so are you. >> thank you so much. that wraps up the hour for me. i'm jose diaz-balart. andrea mitchell picks up with more breaking news right now. good morning. i'm andrea mitch nell washington. as the world reacts to russia's unprovoked invasion of ukraine, the biden administration has rallied western allies in united condemnation of putin's aggression. this morning president biden
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convened his national security council. he will be addressing the nation in the next hour, detailing the u.s. response. here is what is happening in ukraine in this hour. all u.s. diplomatic personnel are safe in poland, having left ukraine yesterday before the attack began in the middle of the night. russian occupation forces are trying to seize the nuclear power plant. radio active dust could cover the territories of ukraine, belarus, and the eu countries. the ukrainian national guard around the still radioactive waste storage plant is said to be fiercely resisting. most of the fatalities called by air strikes and rocket strikes in the morning. the government also says there have been civilian casualties as well. nbc news has not been able to
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independently verify how many. president zelensky said they're being attacked from the south, the north, the east and he is asking ukrainians to give blood donations. air raid sirens echoed as the invasion unfolded. [ sirens blaring ] >> explosions were seen and heard there and in other cities across the country, according to our nbc news correspondents on the ground. earlier kyiv's mayor said that protective structures have been placed at the entrances of the capital city. joining us now, senior international correspondent keir
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simmons in moscow, foreign correspondent matt bradley in ukraine and kristen welker also the co-host of "weekend today." we got an update that the heaviest fightest is right now where you are. what are you hearing? tell us what's going on. >> reporter: we've regularly been hearing explosions from the outside of the city. here i guess we're in what i would call the eye of the storm and everyone has gone down to metro stations. this is where president zelenskyy has told me to go. there are just pets, dog,
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children, lounging around, waiting for the absolute worst. that's what you'll see anywhere in this city. it's almost an eerie calm. what we're actually hearing is the russians are parked outside on the ring road. that's what we've heard from the mayor recently. i want to show you, this is the central administrative building. you can barely see it because it's all dim right now. a lot of the lights are out, a lot of the shops are closed. back in 2014, pro-russian protesters took over this building and they hung a russian flag from the very top of that building. and in this russian-speaking city, the second largest in the country, protesters, pro ukrainian protesters rose up, retook this building and pulled down the russian flag and flew a ukrainian flag instead. i've been here for several weeks. i've talked to a lot of people here. a lot of people tell me they
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were born this russia and all said they would die for ukraine. they use this building as an example and a resolve and determination so make sure russia doesn't come in again and snuff out this city. andrea? >> thanks so much. i know you have to go. just stay safe there. let's if to moscow and keir. keir, what are we hearing from the kremlin and how are russians from the capitol responding? are this egetting real or is it putin's opinion. >> reporter: we've heard actually it's fair to say relatively little from the kremlin through such an important day. on russian television we have seen military leaders trying to
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tell the russian people that the target is the ukrainian military, not the ukrainian people. you never forget the links between russia and ukraine, the millions of ukrainians who live here, these are two countries as vladimir putin never tires of telling us, it's important to focus on that speech that putin made in the early hours of the morning. i put it like this, andrea, just imagine the american president making a speech to match a war like this. it was unscripted. at times pfs almost incohesive. it was rambling and often ominous. in particular he railed against nato, calling america an empire of lives and in another speech, a long speech from really you could say from putin's bunker in
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the kremlin, it was a long speech, sitting at his desk at one point he referenced interfere and the consequences will be such that you've never seen in your entur history. so chilling, a chilling announcement from the russian president was played on russian tv in the early hours of the morning and then looped on russian tv and yet when we went out into the streets to talk to ordinary russians, some say they supported the president, many, many did not, including one would who said her partner is ukrainian and she really fears for him. take a listen. >> i've been crying from the morning. so i don't know what to do. my man, the man that i love is a ukrainian citizen. so for me it quite a tragedy. >> it horrible. it should be done by a diplomatic way.
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>> p rshz there have been plans for a protest here in moscow. as you can imagine, the authorities do not accept protests at the best of times and this is not the best of times. so we're not sure how this protest is playing out. vladimir putin has been crushing dissent to the run-up to this conflict and he will not be prepared to see dissent because there is a real risk if this conflict goes wrong for him, it will do a real damage to his standing in russia he does have support in russia but that can slip away if this particularly is serious economic damage as well as potential deaths among the russians who may be fighting there right now. >> indeed. and this can be a very, very long slog. he can get to kyiv but he can't conquer the hearts and minds of the ukrainians and they will
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resist. thanks very much. and kristen welker, president biden wrapping up a meeting, calling on belarus to not join russia. ne already have. we've already been told that troops are joining the russians as they advance from the north. what other hearings are you hearing that moot we know that president biden is going to announce new sanctions until they are going to be tough sanctions than the ones he has already announced, which of course have targeted banks, russian debt, as long as all of our pursuers relative to putin. i think some of the big questions, will the new sanctions kick russia out of the switch banking system. that would be the mother of all sanctions, the buggest mr. so
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far the administration not taking those options off the table but not clear those are going to happen right now. we just got a very strongly worded tweet from the president of ukraine, lang. let me read you part of it. it says a pack and of additional tough sanctions from the eu is approaching. discussed all the details with emual macron. the induction of a no-fly zone over ukraine and other effective steps to stop the aggressor. so that is the call from ukraine's president. we know that in administration is under pressure, andrea, from republicans and some democrats, who want to see the full complement of sanctions right now. their argument is effectively the p they have defended a strategy to try to doo ter --
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deter. we watch and wait to see what president biden will specifically announce. i am told these new sanctions will be tougher than the ones imposed thus far, andrea. >> kristen welker, thank you so much. joining us is former ambassador to russia, michael mcfaul, an international affairs analyst. ambassador, i saw everything you said last night and the emotion of your reactions because of all of your ukrainian colleagues, your friend, your former students all of them so deeply affected by this unprovoked attack on their country. what has happened since as russia has advanced from all sides, according to the ukrainians and u.s. officials. >> well, as we've had all of our excellent supporters, by the way, i applaud them and i also want them to keep safe but having been telling us this war is on all front, it's not all
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night, shock and awe, as some were hoping but it's on ward and moving forward. putin was pretty clear about what he plans to do, husband objectives. wants to demilitarize ukraine and that suggestions he will go a the entire area and i even fear if you read what he's been saying, he might even round up and try to arrest those that led the revolution of dignity in 2014. remember, that's the thing that he's been so animated about in 2014 and an earlier so-called color revolutions, in ukraine before and georgia before that and the object spring and his own country in 2011 and i think he's decided he's going to try
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to roll back that revolution in 2014 through the use of force. >> president zelensky tweeted that russian occupation forces are trying to seize the chernobyl nuclear power plant. it says our defenders, their defenders are giving up their lives so the tragedy of '96 will not be defeated. he's reported this to the swedish prime minister because the winds go in that direction. this is a declaration against the whole of europe. ambassador, how does this escalate the urgency of the crisis there? >> honestly, andrea, i don't quite understand that. i don't understand why they would seize chernobyl but other than to say that they're seizing virtually every other strategic asset that is in the country, but i do think the point you just made about the war being widened, everything they're doing today is going to have
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implications for every country of europe in the coming days and weeks and months and americans, too. the price of oil are going to -- we're going to feel the effects of this war overnight and as it grows, you know, i think we have to begin to think about what happens if the ukrainian military begins to feel routed, what will they do? will they stay and fight or try to leave the country to fight for another day? that's a tactic we know other leaders, including other great leaders, winston churchill, world war ii, that means it could spread beyond ukraine's borders. i watch what putin says pretty closely. i've been one of those that have been worried for a long time that there's a major, you know,
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everything he said, if you just listen to him closely and the capabilities that he amassed was pointing to this day. we should listen to him closely and not just pretend this is propaganda for his people. if you listen to husband closely, i don't hear him saying we plan to attack a nato ally but i this i we want to do everything we can to make sure that gets to as zero of a probability as possible and that's why i do think we should be fortified, our nato allies. i'm a little perplexed of why nato has not taken the decision to use the nato response force. seems like this would be the exact time up would want to activate the nrf. so war i would say this is not part of his objectives for now. >> i'm lds surprised they did
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that they have not had that north atlantic council, executive meeting but they didn't activate the response force as far as we know. >> luke i said, i don't understand it. it -- well, obviously it suggests that there is division in the alliance about what to do. and remember, we've been talking a lot about unity and i applaud the unity that the biden administration has led but there are certain countries in the alliance that lean towards russia and hungary's one of them. first and foremost. and if you work by consensus, maybe that's part of the problem or maybe it's just premature. maybe that will come in the come being days. >> quickly, mike, what do you want to hear from president biden when who spoke in about an
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hour. >> with this is an evil act and i need you to call it that and i need everyone to understand this is about a moral world and principles, number one. and, number two, i just hope they use the full, fum complete arsenal of sanctions today. this is not a moment to be holding back and waiting to ratchet up so things get bad. things are bad today. it demand you think a major come. >> thank you so much, muk mccam many prices in kyiv, exposh plogss are of the worse is coming up. you're watching special coverage of the russian invasion of ukraine. this is msnbc. ukraine. this is msnbc. check out this vrbo.
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\the cranian ambassador to the us is speaking now. she said the russians have bombed infrastructure and even attacked hospital. she says they are fighting not just the military but all ukrainians, protecting their homes and they will not stop and
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she's pleaing for massive sanctions. we expect an announcement in another hour. joining me, jeremy, talking to your sources what are we expecting to hear from the president about the sanctions? >> i think undoubtedly you're going to hear about a new significant, severe wave of sanctions that the administration has been working on for several weeks and i think these will include sanctioning major russian financial institutions and i think you'll also see export control to limit russia's industrial capacity, their high hek manufacturing capacity. these are designed to front the russian economy offer the next four to six months. i think the way the biden administration is thinking about this is they have strengthened
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their hand by calling putin's play book out. i think putin was probably prepared to do this back m january. he would have caught zelenskyy and his inner circle off guard. he would have caught the alliance off guard. he would have done so without the sanctions being prepared, but by calling out putin's playbook i i think we and we're talking untils of weaponry, munitions and training so they can oppose costs as russia moves threw their country. if they didn't in the end in any way deter putin and i think putin could not are been deterred under any circumstance, i thit it means you have to ensure this defers if.
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>> did they always set the toughness of the sanctions so what they did initially in the first two steps did not appear tough enough? and ufr clating it i guess something and asking why are you holding back? well, anything short, frens, the swift system, kicking the west out in terms of finance. and the accept quote, among those who are not in the trump pamio, which are the hearts that have been so definitive today. but republicans in the senate as well as the parties themselves. >> the administration has been telegraphing a few weeks that
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cutting off russia from s.w.i.f.t. is not a discussion they would enjoy. yesterday obviously the big order? trom tw mince mend m that united statesnd germany which is spift reaction. so there has been a ratcheting up but i think now we're at the moment where a full-scale invasion has been unveiled. there's no question about putin and no are trying to attack chernobyl. if that is accurate, why would they do something that
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disastrous, given how that would paekt western europe. you remember what happened with the initialin meltdown and how sweden was affected. >> god knows, andrea. and the wach they decommissioned the reactors is essentially putting them in a sarcophagus, encasing them in this radial hardened material now the work is ongoing, it's a several hundred million dollar project that the european has been involved with. so the far as cured it inand thos will lfr will and i would think that would be more evidence that putin is absolutely rokless. i'm looking at the people of ukraine but for the entirety of
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europe. >> how long do you think the government in kyiv can with stand this could. wad of civilian casualties, talking about smaller number, not going after the peek of ou crane so far? frm i don't think we have a very good assessment at this hour, andrea, or at least a public assessment to which this -- it doesn't look like martial law is under siege. what's so difficult to assess at this hour is the extent to which zelenskyy himself will feel isolated, cut off, unable to communicate. if he can't pick up his phone and contact his senior-most
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military laet p leaders, if he feels cut off from that, that's the point at which he says we got to bug out and they're going to have to launch a convoy and get out of there safely. i do thinks others have note and she'll either try to kill or capture him. >> in thank you very much for being such a great, great contributor and ally in all this. and holding putin accountable. we'll talk to congressman selt. you're watching special coverage of the russian unvags of ukraine right here on msnbc. right here on msnbc. my mental health was much better. my mind was in a good place.
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right now ukrainians are scrambling as more russian troops move in from all sides. lines of ukrainians stocking you on food and other supply, leaving gross are you shelves empty, including lines outside banks with people worried about cyber attacks. some are heading to the border fotiering safe haven in pal it is heavily shelled and it's gruesome. i have sent a couple of close friends of mine to war, yesterday night. >> cal perry joins us no in western ukraine near the polish border. take us there cha you've been
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thee fch and i think everybody watched in shock, especially in this city where i was there i think an anticipation and understanding that this would be a limited campaign by the russians in the eastern part of the country and that is clearly no longer the ways. you ary we're hearing of corse the polish board about 50 miles from where i am is a nout owe one. president poland said they're going to live requirements for ukrainian citizens who ariffprd and two member of the ukrainian military, this government has said they're concerned about
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possible attacks from within. we're starting to see a reaction to that. the wall is taking over, there's going to be a curfew in the capitol tonight. as things progress, wooer seeing more and more people on the move, unhch will double their effort and al vags army will double their. >> cal perry, thank you where the government had moved and our diplomats have been posted but have moved overnight to poland. nbc 6 has just learned new it it joining us now is nbc news correspondent courtney kube. particular us through your notebook as to what you've been
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told is going on. we have a bit of an operational update, what the u.s. has been seeing things this invasion, which started about 9:30 p.m. eastern time last night. so just over 12 hours ago. in that time the u.s. assess so that is short range, rums, frpg and down in the black seat. even some medium range ballistic missile, more than a hundred of those. the targets have been largely ukrainian military. so what we have been specking them to, some at their command and control structure. those from making a vote to respond to any military
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aggression coming in. you mentioned there's three ak is were via air but they actually were coming in from the north up in bell lark, if in far western russia over toward where the heaviest amount of fighting has been going on. and then down in the south, down towards the black sea and moving up north. those are the three main axis ifand this is the very early staujs of this fan if and among the things the u.s. expects russia to need them, you are more ukrainian government and if silts and able to get it. and during that targeting, it is possible that the russian military will go after in a
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sthalts are in civilian population centers. that, andrea, as you know o could mean the potential for more ukrainian civilians to be caught in the cross airs. >> and having a manager disrupt the control and communications to the defense, the interior minister as well to zelenskyy, how isolated is he at this point? >> reporter: so that's one. things that's been kind of striking to me throughout the last hours as we've watched this unfold. there was a large scale assessment that there would be widespread electronic warfare or jamming in the initial phases here and some very heavy cyber onslaught to try to cut off the ukrainian government, the ukrainian military from literally communicating with one another. we haven't seen it yet but it's entirely possible we could see it in the coming hours.
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>> we know have you to get back to your post. any updates, please bring them to us. appreciate it. >> and now matt, tell me about how you managed to get there, what's going on there. >> reporter: well, i'll tell you, andrea, how i managed to get here, the turnstiles were open. everything here is open. everything, the trains have all stopped. everyone is hanging around. they're tired, they're scared, they're in these trains, as you can see, families, pets. it's hard to see inside the trains but as you can see, this is the second largest city in ukraine. this is in kharkiv. it's one of those fantastic
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soviet-style metro systems. this is an ideal impromptu bomb shelter. that's what the government has told people, come down, try to seek refuge in the metro system. they've stopped all the trains and transportation. that's what you're seeing here. pets, people, they're scared. they've told me they're scared, they don't know what's going on outside their city. they wish they could take these trains and go home. the fact is they don't know what's happening just in the next block. there's been an information blackout. from what we heard from the mayor is that it's all safe, that everything outside the city, there's no fighting, that it's essentially stopped and that the russian military is parked on the beltway system right outside the city. and then we heard from courtney
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kube that some of the fiercest fighting is happening right outside of karkiev. there's so many scared people trying to seek solace and refuge. >> it's understandable. stay safe in that metro and we'll get back to you and please get back to us if anything changes. joining us is congressman seth moulton of massachusetts, who served four tours in the military. thank you for joining us. >> this is the biggest action since world war ii. the most important thing that
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people need to understand is that thousands of innocent people are going to die. those people who are with matt in the subway station right now, hopefully they will be safe. but outside and in the city limits, people are going to be caught up. an estimated tens of thousands people may ultimately die on both sides of this conflict because vladimir putin decided to start a war that nobody wants. this is vladimir putin's fault entirely. and i've been impressed by the work of the biden administration, especially lately to do everything in their power to try to stop this from happening, to try to deter this invasion. for weeks we've anticipated this is exactly what this auto democrat, this tyrant in russia, would do. >> what can you and congress do to try to change the attitude of some of your republican colleagues who have been opposing some of the sanction
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response, who have been blocking some. initiatives and frankly praising vladimir putin? >> well, to be honest, they're a side show. and what's important for everyone around the world to know and everybody at home in america to understand is that america's really united on this. the vast majority of republicans and democrats in congress and all of nato is standing shoulder to shoulder today. just last weekend i was at the munich security conference. it was amazing to see how closely aligned our native allies all are at opposing russia in this most consequential hour. the fact that the germans have already given up their oil pipeline, their gas pipeline, which is going to cost the average german citizens thousands of dollars more per year just to simply heat their homes, that's part of the allied response. the fact you see the united
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states and france and the u.k., the u.k. who left the european union but is so closely aligned with all of us to make sure that his next stop isn't the nato country. >> seth molten, thing you very much for being with us. joining us is a senior fellow and former deputy national security adviser to president george w. bush and now a senior national security analyst. we're going to hear from the president about sanctions. i know you also worked at the treasury and worked on sanctions in other countries but what can you do without risking too much blowback, which some people would argue the s.w.i.f.t.
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system would entail snl. >> i think they will switch us into a much more aggressive role. we've heard from not just the u.s. but european leaders, asian leaders discussions about putting in place even stronger sanctions. so what you're likely to hear from president biden is a series of measures to go after other elements of the russian financial system, their defense sector, their supply chain, going of a further oligarchs, perhaps even announcing going after putin's assets, which he doesn't mold in his own name but holds in the names of others and to try to put as much pressure on putin as possible to ep sure that there is at least sm p some cost here. the reality is that putin
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doesn't sanction those casts and at this point we're in the moz of trying to impose without having as you said, the blow back on the energy sector or supply chain friction that we've seen today in the marketplace. >> it's a very complicated economic puzzle, indeed, just as the treasury and the fed are juggling with inflation and what their responses are. we're already dealing with high energy costs. in terms of the cia and the analysis of what putin is up to, it's really hard to imagine what the game is here. just in terms of a military strategy, for him to go in this big and try and take a sovereign neighbor with, you know, a much smaller conventional force but with the whole world aligned against him except for china, most notably. >> it is really hard to stee what the end game is. most immediately it's like lich
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he is looking to orchestrate regime change in kyiv. i also think it's not out of the realm of possibility he's looking to permanently petition ukraine. we've heard him say he believes ukraine doesn't have a right to exist. he could go beyond and he could be playing for keeps here. your point about what the end game is is really important. there are signs of protests in some russian cities but the one thing i have learned about following russia for as long as i have is that often times he is able to turn these challenges into wins and, you know, think about syria, for example. we all believed he would be bogged down there and he used that as a spring board to increase his influence in the region. so it's still really early to tell exactly how this is going to play out, but i agree.
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it is really hard to see where this ends and it does seem like all the actions that he is taking are just bringing about outcomes that he has said he wants to avoid. >> and, andrea, what would be the percentage of attacking the before. >> it's hard to tell exactly. now it's become even more difficult to understand what's happening in putin's head so i don't understand the specific tactical step he's taking but just understanding it as this desire to hold as much ukrainian territory has he can. we shouldn't expect this will stop at kyiv. i this i when you look at the maps and maps that have been shown on russian state television, they're showing tho pieces that they believe the soviets and imperial russians given away. again, just this might not even stop at the river and this could be moving toward that more kind
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of permanent par 'tis and might be to take the territorial area back and give it back to russia. >> and george w. bush released a statement denouncing the action and joins the world in condemning the action. and he said the people must stand in solidarity here. this is a thinly disguised rebuttal of and obviously. we saw the incursion in 2014 under president obama and now this. i think president bush is right. i mean, this is not just a it threat to union crane, ut and it
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we've made certain sim shuns about what the limits are as to what putin is willing to do. i think he has demonstrated time and time again, whether it's in syria, whether it in poisoning of dissidents, whether it's an invasion of neighbors, that he's willing to push the envelope and break the current order. and i think that really is a wake-up call for all of us for the national security establishment in particular when we look at cyber vulnerabilities, when we look at how far are you willing to go tear toreily. what this means to then than and i want us to challenge our own assumptions about putin's limits. >> indeed. thank you both so much. and of course the economic impact, the massive selloff today. the markets have taken a dive in the hours after russia'sin you're watching special coverage
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the dow is down more than 650 points. now it's 648. bouncing around a lilt bit. and anchor who starts next week, host of "the 11th hour." walk us through what is happening on wall street. >> it's no surprise we're seeing so much market volatility. anytime you see global disruption, the markets take a hit. honestly, it's oil prices. hovering around $100 a barrel. that impacts us here at home at the gas pump. the president talked about it two nights ago, saying it was a top priority, he's sensitive to the price they pay at the pump. jen sake reiterated that last night. the average price is $3.53 a gallon. some say it could go as high as 4 bucks. what can the administration really do? can they tap into the reserves? that's short-term solution.
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good day. i'm andrea mitchell in washington, continuing our breaking news coverage of russia's invasion of ukraine. after meeting with his national security council and speaking with g 7 leaders earlier, the president slamming russia for launching an unjustified and premeditated war and briefing ukraine's president zelenskyy on phone. they say there have been three main axies by russia. taking kyiv. decapitating ukraine's government, installing its own puppet government. they say zelenskyy is sounding alarms about the waste repositories. president

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