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good morning, 10:00 a.m. eastern, 7:00 a.m. pacific, 5:00 p.m. in kyiv on this busy friday, we'll bring you the latest on the fighting in ukraine. we have breaking news out of washington. three sources familiar with the matter tells nbc news president biden will announce later today that we'll nominate federal judge ketanji brown jackson. we'll have more on this breaking news later this hour. we begin in ukraine. where a 36 hour war began. there are fears russians could seize it in the next couple of days. those are the sounds that are being heard in kyiv, air raid
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sirens sounding several times in the past few hours. explosions continue to rock the capitol city. ukraine officials also saying a building damaged after being hit by debris by an aircraft. air raid sirens and explosions reported in other cities across the country. ukraine's president says he's still in the capitol and he's the number one target of the russians. sigh him speaking over night. he said russians have entered kyiv and made another appeal to end the war. russia's foreign minister rejecting that appeal. ukrainian government was not democratically elected. russia have no plan to occupy ukraine. president biden is holding a virtual summit to discuss the military alliances next step as the fight intensifies throughout
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ukraine. >> we condemn russia's aggressions in the strongest possible terms. i call on russia to immediately seize its military action. we stand with the brave people of ukraine, we fully support ukraine sovereignty and self-defense. >> that comes after one day after the president says he sent 7,000 more u.s. troops to germany to be apart of nato response. he's issuing more sanctions targeting russian elites and men with close ties to putin. and two sources tell cnbc the eu leaders are discussing and imposing sanctions on european assets held by russian president putin himself, the foreign minister, sergei lavrov.
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with me now is cal perry in ukraine and cal, let me begin with you, what have you been seeing and experiencing since we have talked 24 hours ago? >> reporter: jose, we are here at the central train station at lviv, people are moving in two different directions, you had soldiers heading the the east. some of the soldiers are volunteering and they're moving towards kyiv to defend the phi. everybody is watching that incredible video of those russian troops moving in. in the other direction, you have civilians who are fleeing. some of them don't have anywhere to go. inside the train station is packed. 1,000 people are already on the
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move. that number is likely to rise as the violence continue. you can see people arriving carrying whatever they are able to get out of the city. most of the people we talk to are from kyiv. they're trying to get to the border of poland. the current wait time as we understand. we sort of right here, people are holding up signs, these are volunteers trying to organize an effort for the displaced person who are coming here, they're trying to clear dormitory space in the city. the scene we saw inside was really touching because you had soldiers headed to war, saying good-bye to their families and civilians coming to this direction and they're passing at each other at the train station. >> these are people up-ending their lives and ripping the roots where they have lived and going into an uncertain future
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in an uncertain time. >> reporter: that's right, leaving their home and uprooting their families. i can keep showing you some of these pictures, going to a foreign country where you don't speak the language where you can't find a job and not knowing what's happening to your family. we are hearing stories from people who say they left the city of kyiv and ran out of gas and had to turn back. we have some sound, i am hoping it is ready. let's take a listen. >> --
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>> they're here to destroy the ukrainians. this woman made these cards with drawings and she has messages for the soldiers. she's hugging each of them. she talks about her kids who are still in kyiv, jose. >> cal, the government of ukraine asked men from 18 to 60 to do whatever they can, take up arms whatever they can find to help defend their country. the majority of the people that are heading over to poland now where there are women and children - >> reporter: they are. i spoke to a young man 19-year-old and he says he's going to take his family to that border and he's not going to be able to leave that they were
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thinking that he would be restricted, he was not sure and the government heard they were turning people away who were over 18 and sending them back to the front. his plan is to take his mother and sister to the front and come back and fight. some people want to fight, some people say i want to stand up to the russians and other people just want to go to safety and get out of this country. >> yeah, josh letterman, your headquarter in brussels. any idea of what could come out of the meeting that's you aren't way there? >> reporter: we heard from the secretary general stottenberg at the beginning, saying it is a cold-blooded nation. some of them conducting surveillance above nato countries and more than 120
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ships that are at sea. a big question right now is whether and when nato will deploy its response force. this is a combat ready, extremely well-trained force into eastern europe including a very high ready response force intended to move faster to be at the tip of the spear? responding and getting a lot of tension here at nato today. finland and sweden, they're taking part here today. nato country is hoping that's going to send a signal to putin that he may thinks this is about bringing countries like ukraine away from the nato. this is pushing more european countries into the arms of nato and the protections that those countries will have. even the u.s. and other countries start to move in into the european nation, both nato
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and the u.s. had been clear they do not plan to put boots on the ground on ukraine. they do not plan to be fighting russia over ukrainian territory, that had the ukrainian government saying they are essentially fighting this fight on their own knowing they are getting training and they're getting some supplies from nato countries and the u.s. they are not going to have nato troops fighting on their behalf and that's really what is changing the military equation at this point in time. >> yeah, you know russia, general, the cold war seems to have ended, this is as hot war, general, how do you see this war being caried out in ukraine? this is an invasion over one country over another? >> thank you for the question, after going to russia since
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1989. we don't know how this is going to play out. they invaded full stop, the ministry says we have no plan to occupy ukraine. they invaded and hundreds of ukrainian soldiers have been killed and russians, too. this can only escalate. i believe the first 24 hours, the russians, we heard of all the missiles in a distance. they actually been followed more arm model in iraq back in the first day of the storm. they have been thoroughly
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careful not targeting civilians. most of what we saw outside of kyiv, and we heard of a fire fight down there that may have been a combat, patrol coming out of crimea. in kyiv i was actually concerned that they're going to try in afghan 1979 take down. getting in special operation troops trying to right at the beginning but they didn't. they're going to get into kyiv in hours and the question is what happens? this is an urban area. ukrainians are fortifying it. i wish they had started that earlier. but, it is a major deal and it
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is going to be porcupined. my hope is that zelensky government is on its way or already there. that's going to be hard. you get into these urban fights and all that, does it become less of what we saw in crimea and more of what we see back then where it becomes a blood bath for a lot of civilians are killed and caught in the middle of it. they are aware the media are watching and the russians are hearing all this. those that support the regime were being denied on all this. there were people getting out on the street. this prolongs and gets bloody,
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this is not going to go well long-term for the russians. do they try to push down to the border and looking to set up accommodating a puppet regime in kyiv and settle them down but i don't think they are ready for ukrainian fight and the international condemnation that's coming their way. >> the blood of the ukrainian people is being shed on a daily basis in their own homeland in effort to defend themselves. general, josh and cal, thank you very much for being with me. a new piece from "the new york times," ukrainian general
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describes how she felt when the invasion began. i felt fear crawling in my guts, i never felt this way, it was someone maybe mr. putin himself grabbed my heart and squeezed it. this feeling stayed with me. joining us now, the executive editor of the new voice of ukraine, thank you for being with us this morning. this is day two of the invasion, what's it like for you now? >> i can't believe it is happening still. in the 21st century and other country just decides it wants to demiliterize and from that it invades this country from all fronts right now. kyiv is being under attacked from the north and from the south. mr. putin really wanted to bring
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the soviet union here. he already did because of we are surrounded now. there are no food and supply in the city and in my district, most of the shelves are closed. food stores that are opened, have huge lines, people have to wait for 30 or 40 minutes just to get basic food. our mayor told us that the enemy is already here. every ukrainian is going to try and it is not an easy ride for russia unlike many western experts say. i would say every ukrainian woman and every ukrainian man is going to fight. they're not welcome here.
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>> veronica, you and your piece on "the new york times" talked about your 76 years old grandmother who's a soviet, she thinks of the soviet union times as times when we were at peace. even she's seeing the reality of what someone trying to reestablish the soviet union is causing for your country. how is she doing and how ises the grandmother of ukraine deal with this reality? >> my grandmother is really tough because today she decided to cook some burgers, she cooked it and she decided the bring it to me and i live 10 kilometers away from her and also in kyiv
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and there was shelling happening and she was standing on the bus stop waiting for the bus to get to me. this is the ukrainian -- she says that she's not afraid because she has a long life. she's proud of the ukrainian army right now because she thinks that they are very brave and they are on their own against the second most powerful army of the world. today it is a very sad feeling in kyiv that we are alone. that after news of russian shelling of the orphanage and russian shelling in other
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places, -- >> veronica, you know what i was thinking in 1956, the people of hungary felt alone when soviet tanks came in. you feel you're alone now, what would you ask the world? >> we are ready to pay more for energy. it is not easy, it is going to cost you some money. it is incomparable when you have two hours of sleep a day because russians are bombing your city. this morning, russian shells hit the residential building of the
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district of kyiv. then russian senators entered the district which is very close to me. right now we have the air strike alerts. several dozen of fighter jets are going here too possibly. they're going to -- we think they're going to be bombing so this is the life we have and the life you may have if russia is going to cut-off and putin is going to be sanctioned personally. it is not comparable. >> veronica -- >> thank you. we are mad. >> thank you. you know you are not alone. but the fact the matter is history has shown many times of those who have to fight for their freedom don't have a lot of help. veronica, thank you for being with me, i appreciate your time.
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we have another major breaking story. the white house nominated judge ketanji brown jackson. if confirmed, jackson will be the first black woman to serve on the court. kelly o'donell and pete williams and she's the author of the book, "civil rights queen," peter, tell us more of who judge ketanji brown jackson is? >> she's no stranger to the police report, she was a law clerk there for justice steven breyer, she's now sitting on her job on the bench and we are hearing it is underway. when the senate confirmed her for that, she got the votes of three senate republicans which may be one of the reasons why
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she's nominated. for the eight years before that, she was a federal trial judge here in washington. she's also born here and grew up in miami where her mother was as school administrator and her father was as lawyer for the school board and she says watching him was an early inspiration for her to seek a career in the law. she has similar pedigree to what many nominees have. she graduated from harvard law, she met her husband there. she's a surgeon here in washington. they have two daughters. she has significant experience defending accused criminals because she's a former public defense lawyer in washington. she also served on the federal commission that recommends sentences for criminal defendants and that's something she has in common with justice
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breyer, at age 51, she's the youngest on this court. >> what do you make of the president's decision to nominate judge jackson? >> i think it is a home run. she's highly qualified. she's a known quantity. i don't think it is going to be easy to characterize her as a radical as some started trying to do even before a nominee was announced and she's as terrific choice. >> tell me when you say that it is going to be tough for people to criticize her, what do you mean by that? >> well, i mean of the opinions that she's written that i have reviewed, they are notable for being even handed for being extraordinary thorough for following the letter of the law, for instance, in the opinion regarding the subpoena for doug -- i see her
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highly qualified and she's been twice confirmed by the senate. there is every reason to believe that if the senators focus on her qualifications that she should gardner bipartisan support. >> kelly, this comes as the president is dealing with the conflict of ukraine which is intensifying by the minute. what is the white house saying by the timing of this? they have tried to separate the in fact that the president has to deal with world affairs from this obligation, we are seeing a connection, we are talking about the institutions of a democracy at a time he's also dealing with the threat to democracy and if there is a way to see why these institutions matter, we are seeing that play out in ukraine right now. in terms of the timing there is
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also the sort of historical timing when he was a candidate two years ago today during a debate. he made the pledge that he would make a selection of an african-american woman jurist to be his pick if an opening came up during his tenure. he did his interview and placed a phone call to ketanji brown jackson and offered her this decision. now it is in the hands of the judiciary committee. the white house is going into the judiciary committee today is apart of the outreach they do where the president and top advisers make calls and notify key individuals who have been apart of this process or will be apart of this process about his decision and officially just about 10:00 this morning they made the announcement public and we expect that the formal unveiling if you will, the event
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that goes along with this announcement is likely to happen today, that's the expectation. again, we put in the caution because of world events, the president's time is divided with that. but it is important to try to get this done, he did meet his commitment of saying he would make a selection during the month of february and now the judiciary committee wants to see a swift process and we have heard from different members, the chairman dick durbin is saying he wants to see conversation before april and it goes to the full senate for a vote, the vetting process has been already done. she previously confirmed by the senate. it goes to a white hot level of scrutiny when you are talking about the supreme court even though in her federal position now, she has a lifetime of appointment, it bumps up to a
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higher level. there will be politics and republicans who have had a different contender in mind. there was a lot support of michelle childs in south carolina. that moment has now passed and and the focus now will be for judge jackson. that'll begin in earnest with the hopes of getting this done quickly. >> two years to date since he made that promise. thank you pete williams and kelly o'donell and omiko, thank you for being with us. up next, we'll bring you the dramatic scenes at the border. you are watching "jose diaz-balart reports." "jose "jose diaz-balart reports. a couple miles at a time. - we've both been taking prevagen for a little
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31 past the hour, we are being told president biden will make an announcement of his supreme court nominee. judge ketanji brown jackson will deliver remarks. also happening right now people in ukraine leaving everything behind to get their families to safety.
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poland is offering its border open to refugees. nbc's kelly cobiella is there and joining us this morning. what are you seeing? >> reporter: well, jose, we have not seen much of a change here really. throughout the morning and into the afternoon because this long line of cars you see behind me, these are mostly ukrainians who live outside of the country, they come here and looking for their friends and family and asking questions and sometimes we are being told by police. we don't know what to tell you, we are getting so many people on the border, some of them had to sleep over night, this is the border crossing in poland. we only see cars come across every ten minutes or so because most of the people are cing across by foot. it is happening because we are told the lines on the other side of the border are so long.
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women with their children and pets and dragging their luggage. we spoke to an american woman who lived in kyiv for 29 years, it took her something like 20 hours to get across the border to poland. take a listen. >> last night was chaotic, many people walking because the cars on the road and i saw others carrying babies and their arms and and many are turned away because they can't leave their country. >> reporter: that's happening because ukraine had said men between the ages of 18 and 60 can't leave the country, they have to stay and take up arms
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against the russians. actually jose this has not been one way traffic here. we have seen quite a few men now arriving here and preparing to go in the other direction back to ukraine. a former soldier, 35 years old, he said he was reservice and he was working in austria sending money back to his family in ukraine, he had to come here, he had to come back and get across the border and fight with his fellow veterans. >> kelly cobiella, thank you very much for that reporting. still ahead we'll go to moscow, speak to a russian dissidence who claims that vladimir putin is as deranged leader. you are watching "jose diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. diaz-balart reports" on msnbc.
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images like this one from russia where russian citizens coming out to show their opposition to the invasion of ukraine, not just in moscow but in other cities as well including st. petersburg. i am joined by a russian opposition, politician who has survived two attempts on his life, i want to thank you very much for being with us. what's your reaction of what we have been seeing in ukraine this past 48 hours, kara-murza? >> it is mind-blowing. we are living in the 21st century and we are seeing a large scale of war. this is what 22 years of vladimir putin's ruling has brought us.
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how this will end because we know and one western leader after another and one american president after another from both parties trying to look into putin's eyes and getting into a sense of reset or whatever else and this is where we are today. it is frankly, every generation must repeat the same mistakes over and over again. >> i am reading hitler's invasion where the world kind of said all right, don't do this anymore, let this be the last one and here comes poland, right? first of september of 1938. have we not learned anything and what do you think needs or could be done to deal with vladimir putin who clearly have a keen
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understanding of history and wants some of that history repeated today. >> first of all, his understanding of history is deluded. his so-called victorious war -- he's trying to sway the public opinion away from the problems at home. the effects are very well the opposite. the invasion of afghanistan and what effects it had on the
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eventually collapse of the soviet union. what could be done to us? this could have been done years. the western democracy -- putin's oligarchs, hitting them here from the people of russia. that are stacking up money in your country. for years and years the west enabled, giving putin access to western countries and of the money they are alluding from the people of russia. >> thank you very much for being with us this morning. i want to continue our conversation in the days and weeks to come. this is unfortunately maybe just the beginning of something that may go on for a long time.
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thank you very much for being with us. still ahead, ukraine says russia had taken control of the chernobyl nuclear power activity, what does russia want of this activity and the surrounding plants? we'll look at that next, you are watching "jose diaz-balart reports." "jose diaz-balart reports.
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verizon is going ultra, so your business can too. . 46 past the hour, ukraine says russian forces have taken control of the area home of worst nuclear accident in history, chernobyl plant. it is directly on the path to ukraine's capitol. ukraine officials say they have reported an uptake in radiation due to the movement of heavy military equipment disrupting the top. joining me now is former secretary of state, republic diplomacy and affairs under president obama. great seeing you. what do you make of russia's capture of chernobyl? >> you know jose, it is a little bit mysticfied.
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russian forces in belarus wanted to move them directly in that area to get to kyiv. it is a strange place. as you mentioned, there is as 19-mile exclusion zone about 150,000 people were moved out after the explosions to avoid radiation. i would have thought vladimir putin would have avoided the area like a plague. one of the things we have seen in your show have shown it over and over is how planned this invasion was months and months ahead of time. all of this was down to the tee. putin postures this was not going to happen was an actual lie. >> we just spoke to veronica in kyiv, she was describing how she and so many feel alone right now in this horrible invasion of
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russia to a sovereign country. the fact that richard, history shown that people for the most part are alone when they have to fight for their freedom. very few countries will come and help them. is there something could have been done to help the people of ukraine, be able to protect themselves and defend themselves? >> well, first of all, i want to say jose how important the stuff is you have been doing about putting this investigation into historical content, talking about hungary, and talking about and berlin, russia put down people that wanted freedom that wanted separation from russian authoritarian over lord. people used to joke about their
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own pact where the main members invading others to keep them in line. that's what we are seeing, you putting it in historical perspective is useful to american viewers. we could have done more, we could have started after 2014 supplying starting after 2014 supplying ukraine with more weaponry, with more boots, with more things that could help them avoid this invasion. nato has still not invoked its rapid response force, the nrf, which hasn't been invoked before, which could actually help ukraine in the periphery. but the problem we've come back to is ukraine is not a member of nato. president biden has said we'll defend every square inch of nato territory and there are four nato countries that bored eukraine. we have to start bolstering them because we don't know if putin is going to stop in ukraine, if its just the beginning of trying
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to change the architecture of europe and that would be very, very dangerous. and putin violated the agreement and couldn't nato then essentially put unlimited troops in new nato countries that are surrounding the area of ukraine? i mean, they could send unlimited troops now. >> yes, that's true. and here's the thing, as you know, article 5 in nato says that any member country has to come to the aid of all or any other country that's been invaded. it's only been invoked once after 9/11 but the question the people have said is, well, will nato really to help estonia, latvia. putin has always tried to test
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article 5. invading ukraine isn't testing article 5 but he's on the border of those countries, not to mention a stone's throw from the baltic. i do think he has to activate the nato response force, which hasn't been done. >> it's always a learning experience. i thank you for your time. >> the stock market is up today. how much of an impact the invasion is expected to have on the stock market and on our economy. you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports." watching diaz-balart reports. w how i fee♪ copd may have gotten you here, but you decide what's next. start a new day with trelegy. ♪ ...feelin' good ♪ no once-daily copd medicine has the power to treat copd in as many ways as trelegy.
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55 past the hour as we keep an eye on ukraine. we're also keeping an eye on wall street. the dow went from being under 860 points to close up 90 points. with me is tom costello. the markets may be up right now but the conflict in ukraine is going to have an impact on all of us here. >> yeah, in a perverse logic. that's why the market is up. it may not seem like that makes sense. because the white house did not target russian oil and gas exports, the thinking is, oh good, we're not going to see a massive price hike in the oil and gas market. why do we care about that? every $10 a barrel increase
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equals 20 cents a gallon at the pump. but we now have russia one of our biggest importers, half a million barrels a day, more than saudi arabia. so it does matter to us. if oil is shooting higher, that's going to mean your gas prices are higher. it also means guess who is making more money? russia. the fact that the white house did not target russian oil and gas helped the stock market. also because of the conflict, because of the sanctions, there is speculation that the fed will not be raising interest rates as aggressively as originally thought. that's why the market is up despite the fact there's a war in europe. averaging 3.57 a gallon, 4.77 in california. speculation is it will go higher, 15, 20 cents a gallon and it has a real impact on
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americans' bottom line, when you're digging that deep into your pocketbooks to fill your gas tank. there's speculation that's going to lead to higher inflation. that really puts the fed and white house in a pickle here, raising interest rates but not too much given what's happening. >> thank you very much. i want to turn to ukraine. erin mclaughlin joins us. what's it like in ukraine's capital at this hour? >> it's eerily calm here. we did hear a few explosions. but right now things are quiet. i'm looking around, there's very few people here in the streets in the center of the city. earlier today there was some intense fighting, the first gunfire we have heard ring out
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in the capital, russian forces trying to get into the city. the closest they've been able to get to the center of kyiv. the authorities have urged residents to shelter in place. they say they believe the russians have gotten ahold of ukrainian military uniforms and they're concerned what will happen if they leave their homes and encounter what they believe to be troops. i just heard a blast. earlier at a metro people hundreds were taking refuge. they're absolutely terrified and they said no one knows where this is going to go. there is a fear that the capital
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could fall in the coming days, jose. >> how close are people keeping up on what is happening around them and around the country? how much information are people having access to? >> reporter: people are glued right now to their cell phones, to their televisions. prior to the invasion happening, the thinking was the russians would cut off the electricity, power, cell phone communications would go. that hasn't happened. so people here are following the situation quite closely and, frankly, they're trying to leave the capital. thousands were seen at the city's central station today trying to crush into the trains to get away from the city, jose. >> erin mclaughlin, thank you so much and thank you for the privilege of your time. andrea mitchell picks up with more breaking news

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