these are challenging tmes. we appreciate you spending some time with us. "the reidout" with joy reid starts now. >> have a good evening. we begin tonight by stepping into the shoes of the ukrainian people. i want you to imagine, you're living a metropolitan city like kyiv and walk the street with friends and meet up for coffee and cruise an outdoor market. you're living a completely normal life in an imperfect but western democratic country and suddenly, all that normal is just gone. in what feels like an instant. suddenly, your country is under attack by your neighboring country because their maniac leader is unhinged for a long forgotten regime your country liberated itself from and you are caught in the middle.

what do you do? the subway system you once used to move around the city is now a bomb shelter. your grocery stores are ir ooir empty. do you try to ride it out and hide from the troops? do you take your terrified kids and elderly parents to get out of the country? do you have your passports ready? do you know where they are? or do you fight. go from casual shopper or barista to soldier? that is life for the 44 million people living in ukraine and now, they have to grapple with their new normal, listen to this student who spoke to nbc's cal perry at the train station in lavive today. >> two weeks ago we didn't think

about that, few days ago, we were just going to our classes, talking about -- we're students so for me it's awful to see the actual war is happening now and in my country and the world is not really answering what we need because we really need help. >> the ukrainian government is literally handing out guns to citizens and authorities are encouraging people to make their own molotov preprayer for what could be a long ugly insurgency. grandmothers have been preparing to fight. some like this soldier that spoke to kelly cobiella are crossing the border into ukraine. >> we have war in ukraine. ukraine. >> we have war in ukraine.

>> reporter: it's difficult. >> not everyone is in a position to fight. many are fleeing the country with 100,000 leaving their homes and a 29 mile line long line of cars just trying to get into poland today. the u.n. is preparing for up to 5 million refugees if the situation continues to escalate. however, with ukraine declaring martial law, men between the ages of 18 and 60 cannot leave. they're being urged by the government to do what they can to defend their country. among the men pledging to take up arms, hall of fame boxers, the klitschko brothers, one the mayor of kyiv.

the situation remains dire as russian forces pressing closer and the fallout of kyiv is a real possibility. russian troops advanced but a senior u.s. defense official told nbc news the defense on kyiv was slowed in a fierce ukrainian resistant. vladimir volodymyr zelenskyy saying we're here. zelenskyy held a call with biden today as the u.s. and western allies ramped up their campaign to make russia and specifically vladimir putin an international pariah. the counsel of europe, the foremost human rights organization suspended russia and at an emergency summit, they activated part of the response force for the first time in its history to sure up nato allies

in eastern europe. the european union and the u.k. look to freeze the assets of putin and foreign minister sergei lavrov as a part of sanctions. the united states followed suit further isolating the russian dictator. >> in alignment with the decision by our european allies, the united states will join them in sanctioning president putin and foreign minister lavrov and members of the russian national security team. >> does it include a travel ban by chance? >> i believe that would be part of the u.s. component, yes. >> in addition to slapping sanctions on putin and lavrov, the treasury department is taking action against three russian military leaders. it's defense and deputy defense minister and army chief undergoing the isolation in the face of its naked aggression. a short time ago, russia was the sole veto of a u.n. resolution condemning the invasion. india, the uae and china on stained from the vote. meanwhile in the latest address

to the nation, president zelenskyy warned the night would be harder than the day with many cities under attack saying ukrainians can't lose the capital kyiv in the face of a full storm from the russians matt bradley reporting from ukraine and jack, an msnbc contributor in kharkiv and i'll start with you raff sanchez. my understanding is there is unwelcome news in moscow from the country of kazakhstan which declined to get involved on russia's side. more on that and what is going on from where you are? >> reporter: that's right, kazakhstan is one of russia's closest allies and the fact they're saying one, they won't send troops to fight in ukraine and two, they will not recognize these two so-called break away republics in the east of ukraine is a sign of how isolated

vladimir putin is right now on the world stage. basically, the only two governments in lock step with him right now are belarus and the assad regime in syria. as you said, both of those are international pariahs in their own right. very significant, china not vetoing, not voting against that resolution at the u.n. security counsel earlier leaving the kremlin really looking look it on its own on the international stage domestically protests here in russia continued for a second night against the war. they weren't as large as what we saw last night but people still took to the streets despite knowing the consequences, knowing they would face potential police violence, arrests and prosecution and i think it is a sign, joy, of how strong people here in russia feel in some quarters, at least, that they are really not convinced this war that their leader led them into is a good

idea. >> thank you very much. you were in kharkiv earlier. give us the assessment from where you are. >> reporter: yeah, we were in kharkiv and came under shelling or nearby and i know you have a guest who was also there. we decided that that was too close, so when we heard the shelling in the morning as i was in the midst of saying how calm and how peaceful the streets of that city were, we started to hear shells that came too close for our comfort and the return file, that anti-aircraft fire. and it was a little too close to our position so our security consultant made the decision along with us that we should take shelter in the parking garage below our hotel and then we should come down here. that's what we did today and where you find us now. the situation here is relatively

calm, but it's clear that from having been in kharkiv, that there is a defense and, you know, even though that city is only 25 miles from the russian border, they haven't moved in. the russians haven't made it to the center of the city, we heard from courtney's assessment from a u.s. official, haven't made it into any major or held any major population district anywhere in ukraine. haven't seized any major cities. that's something that the russians might surprise them. it might actually surprise a lot of ukrainians. i was speaking to ukrainian military officials. they had kind of expected a little more pessimistic response from their own people from what i understand then maybe they're seeing now. i think it wouldn't have surprised a lot of ukrainian officials, too. for the men and women in uniform, this is how they wanted things to go and they're guarding for a long night as president zelenskyy asked them to prepare for, joy? >> matt, thank you very much.

stay safe. let's go to you jack crosby. we started this, you know, program talking about just the anxiety and shock of going from normal life, living your normal western civilization life and suddenly having your neighbor invade and that's got to have produced a lot of anxiety. i'm wondering your take. have you had a chance to talk to people? what is the stress level where you are? >> reporter: it's really profound, joy. kpi per yensed this sort of firsthand on thursday morning we were staying in another location in the city and moved to the hotel that we're currently in now and riding the subway that morning, there was this sort of profound sense of confusion, anxiety and fear among the people. it seemed as though half of them weren't sure whether they should go to work as normal or seek shelter. this was just a couple hours after the initial strikes early on thursday morning and that sense has really continued and

went through the city over the past 24 hours. i was in the city today speaking to a couple residents and a 24-year-old man told me just it's terrifying and he says he's not sure that people understand how bad it could get. the situation in the city right now appears to be slightly more stable than in some cities in ukraine right now. it seems as though kharkiv has been spared some of the violence we've seen in kyiv over the past day. the situation as best, i understand it, there is occasional shelling that is audible and getting close to the city center where i am that matt experienced this morning, as well. and we experienced again this afternoon sheltered in the same car park but that russian troops are mostly still on the outskirts of the city and sort

of the provading tactical opinion among reporters and security consultants, they're waiting to see what happens in kyiv and if that city were to fall, they're waiting to see basically what happens to the government in kyiv and will reflect their behavior towards this city. joy? >> matt, thank you, stay safe safe, gentlemen. thank you-all three. with me now ben rhodes. the reporting i've been hearing just watching msnbc all day is that the russians are being less overtly violent necessarily against the populations, perhaps out of a fear that the insurgency would be worse if they kill or hurt too many people and actually, the people of ukraine are fighting pretty hard, fighting back pretty stringently. what's your read on where things stand right now? >> i think that's exactly right,

joy. if you look at the russians, they only moved a third of their forces on the boarders into ukraine and moved in and made demands repeatedly of the government to surrender. i think they were testing whether the combination of bombardment and intimidation might have led the government to flee. they wanted to test whether there would be resistance and they're finding an incredibly resilient political leadership by president zelenskyy and the population resisting and the u -- ukrainian military resisting. for putin, he has to keep in mind that there are keep dies between russians and ukrainians. there are family ties, many russians have family in ukraine just as many ukrainians have family in russia and images frankly like we've seen in syria of russian absolute bombardment of population centers and

cities, buildings, not only would that potentially deepen resistance in ukraine, that may significantly impact russian public opinion that could be uncomfortable with witnessing something done in their name that decimates family members, ethnic russians in ukraine. so putin here is meeting more resistance than he thought and a much more complicated challenge than anyone he's faced before in his previous military incursions. >> it feels as if he completely read this wrong, not understanding how much ukrainians want to be ukrainians, not russians. they don't want to be part of some reestablished ussr. they are willing to fight for their homeland and willing to fight for their homes and families. did he misread the global situation, interesting china on stained with not in terms of siding with them and it now looks like their access is

belarus and syria, two other rogue nations. >> yeah, i mean, i think the chinese don't like to stick their neck out in situations like this. i think that they will probably help russia deal with the impact of sanctions, though. for instance, we've sanctioned export control capacity of russia to get input to the tech sector. china may try to make that up. as ukraiians resisted and sovereignty is proving to be much stronger than vladimir putin thought and keep in mind, vladimir putin is not listening to a lot of voices other than the ones in his head, you have nato responding in the way putin says he -- the scenario unfolding now is what putin claimed he wanted to prevent, which is a significant buildup of nato forces on the boarder and potential for sweden and finland to join nato, the nato enlargement he wanted to resist is happening. so in many ways, even though we're not detouring vladimir

putin or stopping him, he's inviting consequences on himself in the medium and longer term could prove very damaging to his rule and certainly to russia's interests. >> i wonder if these protests, because it is dangerous to protest in russia. they don't have freedom of speech. you can get arrested and god knows what happens when that happens. the fact russians are standing up and seen athletes that were part of the olympic games saying no more war, we don't want war. maybe not naming putin by name but standing up to him. i wonder if he has miscalculate here because inside his country, there doesn't appear to be any appetite to do this to their neighbors and in many cases, their family members. >> yes, look, first of all, you know, i think that the annexation of crimea in 2014, which did get a lot of public support in russia was a very different circumstance. crimea is a distant peninsula and easy geographic area for

russia to move into but crimea is majority ethnic russians and many russians did believe crimea should be part of russia. there weren't body bags coming home. ukraine is a large country of 44 million people with a distinct national identity and russians know that. despite the propaganda fed to the russian people on broadcasting channels, there is social media in russia. many ukrainians are using telegram, the russian created social media app to communicate directly to russians and send videos not playing on russian television saying this is what you're doing to our people and the ukraiians including president zelenskyy are saying get on the streets and stop the war. i don't think this is necessarily going to stop the war. i don't think this will stop vladimir putin in the short term but it does suggestion underneath the surface of vladimir putin's kind of total

control under russian decision making, the russian public uneasy what he's done and pockets of opposition what he's done in moscow and st. petersburg and watch over time is whether of course that grows and what kind of strain that puts on vladimir putin. >> to say nothing of the fact that if his oligarch's money dries up, how long his support stays and how long he can keep his foot on the next of those people? ben rhodes is sticking around. next up, i'll talk to a member of the ukrainian parliament vowing to stay and fight the russians and the retired florida man spent four years tearing down our alliances, now putin is showing in realtime why nato is so necessary. we're also going to debunk the nonsense how trump would have averted this crisis. plus. >> thank you very much, mr. president. i am truly humbled by the

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nothing could have prepared this ukrainian president, literally a former comedian for the war of his life as a wartime president facing off with former kgb officer vladimir putin on the world stage as deadly battles reach kyiv. 44-year-old volodymyr zelenskyy is vowing to save his country as he faces a threat to leadership and also to his life. zelenskyy told european leaders this might be the last time you see me alive. that's according to two european sources briefed on the call.

zelenskyy had no political experience when he became president, zero, other than playing a president on television like the character he played, the real life zelenskyy won the presidency by targeting corruption but he would get dragged into the impeachment scandal of putin worshipper donald trump while held military aid pushing zelenskyy to dig up dirt on biden. zelenskyy wouldn't play ball and was a problem for trump but a bigger threat to the kremlin that accusing him that ukraine is run by nazis. joining me say member of the ukrainian parliament and joins us from kyiv. thank you so much for being here and i guess the first most obvious question is are you confident that president zelenskyy is safe? >> well, he said that he's in

kyiv. it is his duty to remain here and he just hope for good. we're in paramentry presidential republic so it's important both parliamentaries and president zelenskyy are safe. so we can still remain in control. >> you know, i ask that because it does feel like some of vladimir putin mania about ukraine is very personal and directed against president zelenskyy because he's not a putin puppet, which is what he wants, and he clearly wants regime change. claiming that the government in kyiv is run by nazis and drug addicts and every smear he can think of. how has that impacted those of you actually part of the government, part of the governing body? >> so we have all received threats from russian representatives saying that we

are all in hanging list and so that when the russian army would get into kyiv and they want to remove all government officials, they would haj president zelenskyy on the same tree. we applied with our army, we replied with ourself armed individuals like myself and with the self-defense resistance territories basically fighting back russian army like never ever anybody fought before. >> and we have a picture of you and you put up a tweet of you holding an automatic rifle preparing yourself physically to bear arms yourself. talk about the mental trajectory of going from being, you know, having your governing

responsibilities, your normal life to this, to having to take, you know, have the possibility of having to use that and defend your country. >> so if you ask me three days ago about bearing arms, i would say no, definitely not. we would have an argument. i had to wake up at 5:00 in the morning, the first siren and bomb shelter in my life and at 7:00 a.m. i had to go vote for martial law in my country and we went to the armed forces and asked to get guns and they gave us guns and now i have gun because this is important to show the people how to act and we would be real strong support

to our actual forces because they are doing the strategic things but as you can see on the suburbs of kyiv, there are many russians being killed by the people like myself and it's like very crazy. it's hard to believe it and understand how this happens with you but at some point, you just say i'm not going anywhere, i'm not going anywhere. i'm going to protect this and i'm going to train myself and to be able to do it the best way i can. >> there is alexander the ukraiian minister of policy, he said ukraine has a european sensibility and european values. let's talk about the values of your president. help us take the measure of president zelenskyy. what kind of leader is he? he's obviously not an experienced leader but having to

step up to a challenge unlike any he could have imagined running for president. >> so yeah, when ukrainian people elected comedian actually playing the role of the president, i don't think anybody thought that this person would at some point have to lead us to the war with putin, no with some other tyrant, putin is one of the most aggressive people in the world. right now what we see is happening for the last couple days is that he's really stepping up and acting as a leader though i'm a ledder of the opposition party and criticizing the hell out of him. right now he's doing a very good job. he's working on ukraine's best interest and he didn't flee. he was not scared. he acts actually above the bar

everybody put for him. >> that is refreshing to see. i wish -- i envy that a little bit, that you from an opposition party are able to come together with the president from the other party to stand in defense of your country and of western values. we could use some of that here in our country. kira, stay safe. thank you for taking the time to talk with us and god bless you in ukraine. thank you. still ahead, nato activating its multi national response force for the first time in history as russia provides a vivid demonstration of why the defensive alliance was necessary in the first place. we'll be right back. liance was y in the first place we'll be right back. tums vs. mozzarella stick when heartburn hits, fight back fast with tums chewy bites. fast heartburn relief in every bite.

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in his bizarre rants on russian state tv we heard vladimir putin justify his unprovoked attack on ukraine for expansion into eastern europe but ironically by invading his neighbor and threatening the collective security of europe, he showed why nato is necessary. it was created at the outset of the cold war to counter the kind of russian aggression we're seeing against a non-nato country. more on the members since an attack considered an attack on all. sit no surprise putin's actions prompted more countries to consider joining nato including finland that shares an 800-mile border with russia.

finland knows firsthand what it's like to be in ukraine's shoes. you may forget in the beginning of world war ii, russia was actually aligned with nazi germany, which gave joseph stall the green light to annex finland by force in 1939 but the russian invasion known as the winter war was far from the cake walk that was anticipated. to russia's embarrassment, the vastly superior forces were out maneuvered by finland's ski bar bar tall yens. it is understandable why finland may want nato's protection after the chilling prospect putin has ambitions beyond ukraine. and unsurprisingly, russia today threatened finland as well as sweden warning of quote serious military political repercussions if either country tries to join nato. joining me now is nbc news

presidential historian michael beschloss, the host of "fireside history "on msnbc's "the choice" and julia, founding partner and washington correspondent for puck news. thank you both for being here. michael, i'll start with you. there is this sense that putin thinks he's rewriting history but he doesn't seem to understand it very well. because the kind of aggression that he's putting forward, i guess he thinks he's the hero in the movie. he's literally every single villain from world war ii forward. he's mess moorized and the republics, these countries as a union it was then called to try to but i have an experienced in

1991, was in the kremlin. it was a week after ukraine voted to become independent 12 days before the end of the soviet union and now the one known as who let the countries go did not roll the tanks to keep them as soviet satellites. he said i am not -- in fact, i got a picture he drew, he said i'm not going to -- while drawing this picture, he said i won't let the soviet union be cut up into a pie to be served with tea. the whole idea is you keep the soviet union together and keep the satellites of eastern europe -- yeah, there we are. 1991. even someone as good as him said you have to keep the republics as he called them part of the soviet union. quick point -- >> michael, let me -- >> a lot of eastern european

countries were saying we want to be part of nato, even he was saying no need. there will never be again a problem. he is wrong. that's what putin is. >> indeed. you look quite young and fresh in that picture. really great photo. thank you for bringing that along. >> thank you. >> looking good. julia, the problem with the calculous that putin has created here is that ukraine is a distint country. he's finding greater resistance than expected and all he's doing is bolstering to say maybe we should join nato. i'm sure the leadership in ukraine which is at this point they may have been in nato because it might have stopped this aggression against him. >> i think there is a couple things going on here. first of all, you're completely right. this has been going on since 2014 when putin first invaded

ukraine. this is his second invasion. he invaded ukraine, annexed crimea, started this astro turf separateist war in the east and before 2014, nato was mostly tied up in afghanistan. the only time article five had been invoked was after 9/11 and nato countries came to the aid of the u.s. the things with putin weren't that bad between putin and nato. he even allowed a nato transit point to open on russian territory to allow nato to open up basically an easier path for nato to ship troops and material to afghanistan. they were joint russian nato exercises. there was constant dialogue. but as -- and nato kind of almost didn't have a point anymore and then he invaded ukraine and suddenly, nato was again an anti russian organization. and so much of this is a crisis of his own making, that he

invented in his paranoid mind and he's doing everything to make a reality. a friend of mine in moscow pointed out that before 2014 and this is everybody has observed this but before 2014, ukraine was kind of split. it was this seesaw between the ukrainian speaking east -- west, which had a different kind of christianity in the east where people were more likely to be russian speakers and feel for the soviet union and the political system was a sea saw. one presidential election would elect a pro -- like one year would be a prorussia leader and next year would be a prowestern leader and would go back and forth and nato membership wasn't that popular until 2014. now they want to join nato. but the other problem is that in 2008, george w. bush and kond

-- condoleezza rise -- rice promised things. they said this is not a good idea and will infuriate putin and george w. bush kept pushing so we got the worst of both worlds, the u.s. irritated russia, provoked it but then left these republics hanging without any of the protection that they promised them. so -- >> it's -- >> it's quite an awful ironic crisis. >> it definitely is and michael, the irony, you have a school of thought on the right that says well, if president, you know, if the president was still named trump and not biden, this wouldn't be happening but i'm old enough to remember published repors what trump would have done would be take us out of nato. here is from a book called "i alone can fix it ". trump had privately indicated he would seek to withdraw from nato should he win reelection saying

we'll do it in the second term. so nato's survival would have been in even greater threat and now it seems that nato will get stronger because of what putin is doing. >> yeah, totally. i mean, you know, december of 2016, donald trump is about to get nominated. what's the first thing he does? he tells the republic platform committee i want to change republican policy on ukraine. i don't want the united states any more to take a position of defending ukraine. i remember at the time thinking where is this coming from? i mean, this is something that no one else is talking about. what is on his brain? he spends four years trying to dismantle nato. it leads you to assume in a trump second term this was exactly what was planned, which was that putin would conquer ukraine but instead of the situation we got now, which is joe biden doing everything he can short of war to stop it, instead, you have an american president crossing his arms and

essentially saying go ahead. i hate nato. i'm going to block it from doing anything. >> absolutely. it would have been full nevel chamberland time. >> totally. >> exactly. michael beschloss, julia, thank you both very much. still to come, history is made at the white house as president biden nominates ketanji brown jackson to the united states supreme court. s ketanji brown jackson to the unid testates supreme court. if you have type 2 diabetes or high blood pressure you're a target for chronic kidney disease.

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i'm looking forward to making sure there is a black woman on the supreme court to make sure we in fact get every representation, not a joke. not a joke. >> two years to the day later president biden delivered on that promise, nominating judge ketanji brown jackson to the supreme court. biden made the announcement today franked by judge jackson and kamala harris, the first black woman to be elected vice president whom he praised for

having helped him make his decision. if confirmed, judge jackson will make history. in her remarks, she paid tribute to bakermotley. >> today i proudly stand on judge motley's shoulders sharing not only her birthday but also her steadfast and courageous commitment to law. if i'm fortunate enough to be concerned as the next associate justice of the supreme court of the united states, i can only hope that my life and career, my love of this country and the constitution and my commitment to upholding the rule of law and the sacred principles upon which this great nation was founded will inspire future generations of americans.

>> with me now jenee nelson. i just want to go ahead and get your reaction to this nomination. >> joy, i am elated. today was a moment of unprecedented historic importance and what a day for our country and our judiciary democracy. this was a moment every single resident of this country should be so proud and let me just say as a black person, as a black woman, as a black woman lawyer and as a leader and a black founded legacy organization that produced not only the first black supreme court justice in 1967, thurgood marshall but the first woman black federal judge, i'm swelled with pride on so many levels. i have to say, i'm deeply proud of our president for honoring

his unwavering commitment to make this historic nomination despite the pressures he received to do otherwise. this nomination breaks a 232 shutout of black women from serving on the highest court of the land. in every way -- and she brings much-needed professional diversity, racial diversity, increase gender diversity on the court. and her nomination and ultimate appointment could not be more timely. but we are facing so many critical issues as a nation. >> i saw tweets today by an attorney who said, she has got all the qualifications of john

roberts when he was nominated, plus seven more years on the bench, so she's obviously beyond qualified for this job. i feel like there's something resident about the fact that, while it will still be a 63 far right wing majority courts. the three will include a jewish woman, a latina, and a black woman, which is so kind of, resident to me, of the emerging majority in the country, and about the emerging multi racial democracy that we live in. that, to me, is pretty resident, but what about you? >> well, it resonates with me too. and i think will resonate with most residents of this country. it is a microcosm of the imbalance of power, which still exists in this country, with a growing, or merging, brown electorate, with women who are taking increasingly a higher post of leadership in this country, and who should be having a say in making the

determinations that will cover our lives. to have two women of color, one latino, one black woman on the court. it's just an incredible testament to what this country can produce when we take courageous steps. when we hold to our convictions and values, and live up to the commitment of diversity. we leveraged of diversity of this country, which is our greatest strength. so i have no doubt, there with his addition to the court, that court will be deciding issues in a different way, and a different perspective. >> you know there's gonna be a fight, because republicans have already started caterwauling about this incredibly qualified nominee. but several republicans, will put them up on the screen, they voted for judge jackson before, they voted to confirm her before. they are not standing by that they will do that again. what do you expect this fight to look for like, over the nomination?

through anticipated been a fight. >> listen, i don't think there's a black women in america who's achieve the status that judge jackson has without a fight, and without being able to fight for herself and for her dignity and rightful place as a leader in this nation. i do hope that this senate will be respectful, will honor its constitutional mandate to advise and consent. when you find a court nominee as qualified as jackson there should really be a fight. but we are ready for potential pushback, and we know this is a highly politicized process. we're not be naive about some of the misses that may come her way. but she's basically like teflon, if you think about the credentials that she brings to the court. >> i thought she was really smart to talk about she has an uncle who is in the criminal justice system. but she also has brothers who were in law enforcement, she has a family history of law

enforcement as well. she put all that out there, her speech today was fantastic. wanted to make a quick turn today here, today's the ten year anniversary of the murder of trey vaughan martin, it's one of the earliest cases that i covered as a journalist, and it's still sticks with me, he still sticks with me. tomorrow is the anniversary, sorry. what do you think that that case in which the shooter was acquitted, where are we in terms of the search for equal justice for people of color, when faced with violence weathers police turn produced or not. >> we are too far away from where we should be. trey vaughan martin, a young man, a promising adolescent, lost his life ten years ago, because of a want to be lot enforcement vigilante, who is protected by stand-your-ground laws that don't apply equally, depending on the color of her skin. i think it is important that we

revisit those laws. we've seen numerous cases since then that have continually to perpetuate this discrimination in appliance tenure ground laws. all of us should be protected to freely walk in residential areas, in public spaces, even in private spaces, without the threat of potential fatality. it is a sad remembrance. >> it is a sad anniversary for sure. much love to his family, his parents, and his brother. janai nelson, thank you very much for being here. up next, national youth lower but would laureate have some kindly words for us about peace. have some have some kindly words peace. what are you recommending for muscle pain? ta, i recommend salonpas. agreed... my patients like these patches

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