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a kohler walk-in bath provides independence with peace of mind. call... to receive fifty percent off installation. and take advantage of our special offer of no payments for 18 months. a very good day to all of you from msnbc world headquarters here in new york. welcome to "alex witt reports," we begin with the breaking news on russia's invasion of ukraine. thousands of people from taiwan to times square are taking to the streets in cities around the world to protest against the invasion. and as darkness falls on ukraine, the entire country is bracing for another night of terror from russian military forces. u.s. and british intelligence officials say russian troops are meeting with more resistance than they expected and the department of defense is working to give more lethal military aid to ukraine in the form of anti-tank missiles and air

defense capabilities. here's a look at where russian forces have launched attacks to this point, and a video of the moment an attack was launched thursday in the region near ukraine. e region near ukraine. utterly terrifying there as displaced ukrainian residents are crossing borders into romania, hungary, poland, slovakia, and moldova, u.s. troops have joined nato allies to welcome them, and the united states, rather united nations is reporting 150,000 people have fled ukraine. another 100,000 people are displaced inside ukraine. >> unhcr is preparing for up to 4 million people that will flee into neighboring countries. however, your guess is almost as

good as mine at this point because we really don't know how the situation is going to develop. >> ukraine's president, vold is standing his ground saying i need ammunition, not a ride. we have a number of correspondents monitoring the latest from washington, and overseas in ukraine and moscow, as well as in brussels. we're going first to you matt bradley in eastern ukraine. let's get the latest on the fighting there. what are you seeing and hearing? >> reporter: i just want to take you through the map just to show everybody kind of what we're seeing on a nationwide basis. i'm right sort of in the center east of the country. kind of like in the st. louis of ukraine, if that helps. but i want to go to the map and say what is going on here. since i have been here for the past 24 hours, i haven't heard any bombardments, which is pretty rare, even though this city is extremely tense right now. in a place north of where i am, kharkiv, the second largest city

in ukraine where i was yesterday morning, and we did hear pretty close bombardments, and i'm told that this is where a lot of fiercest fighting is going on, right south of the russian set of belegrat and into the access in northeastern ukraine, that's where we're seeing a lot of the fiercest fighting over the last couple of days. taking you into another access of the fighting towards the capital kyiv, this is the most important part because this is a place where a lot of people weren't expecting vladimir putin to launch his invasion. that's where troops are coming down at that junction between the russian and belarusian boards with ukraine. there's a strong troop presence pushing down into kyiv, and we have seen a lot of fierce fighting in kyiv, but courtney cuby, our colleague, the russian forces are 30 kilometers north of kyiv, not necessarily in the city. the action we have been seeing

in the city according to u.s. and british intelligence is actually being done by saboteurs who have essentially infiltrated the capital of kyiv. the front line itself and the fierce fighting that goes along with it is north of the city. in both kharkiv and in kyiv, the russian forces have been essentially frustrated and we've heard from various intelligence assessments that the russians have been very frustrated and disappointed with their progress but that's a totally different story when you go down south to crimea, that's the third access of this russian invasion. crimea and near odesa and to the east in mariupol, those areas have seen a huge russian advance and a very successful push partly because the russians have brought to bear their very very powerful navy in the black sea. they have already taken, according to various reports have taken or not taken the city of hersong, which is very important naval base in the south of the country, along with odesa, which is facing a lot of fighting as well. that's where the russians have

had their most success down in the south, and i want to take you out to the west of the country, there hasn't been much fighting out there, and in fact, hasn't seen much of an incursion by russian forces at all in the west of the country, but this, that's where we're seeing another problem. there are more than 100,000 refugees from elsewhere in ukraine have flooded into the area around lviv. that is sort of a very old city that used to belong to the austrian empire, and has now become the focus of the refugee crisis as ukrainians push out to the west and try to make their way into poland. that's where the situation stands now as we enter into our third day of fighting in ukraine. alex. >> matt, thank you very much for a comprehensive update. i appreciate that. let's go from there to nbc white house correspondent carol lee in washington. we understand the president is speaking out in a new interview. can you tell us what you're hearing? >> reporter: that's right, alex, the president in an interview

with commentator, brian tyler cohen is talking about the options that he had for confronting russia as it mounts its assault on ukraine. take a listen. >> you have two options, start a third world war, go to war with russia physically, or two, make sure that a country that acts so contrary to international law ends up paying a price for having done it. >> now, the u.s. has adopted a number of sanctions against russia this week, just including on russian banks, on russia's sovereign debt. they have adopted export controls on certain types of technologies, so russia won't have access to those, and then yesterday, the administration announcing that they were sanctioning russian president vladimir putin personally as well as russian foreign minister sergey lavrov, but the president in that interview noted that these sanctions have limitations

that they are not necessarily going to be fighting initially, at least, that they take time to take effect. and also saying that he doesn't know -- it's not like these sanctions are suddenly going to make vladimir putin not president, for instance, this all comes as u.s. officials are telling nbc news that they are seeing that the russians as matt noted, are frustrated with the resistance that they're experiencing and didn't expect that, although they're not saying how they know exactly that the russians are frustrated and they're also providing some numbers in terms of the number of missiles that russia has launched, 250 missiles since this began, and the senior defense official telling our colleague that half of the forces that have amassed around ukraine have moved inside of the country. that means there's roughly 75,000 to 100,000 russian troops in ukraine, but that also means that there are tens of thousands of russian troops who have yet to go into ukraine.

so logistically the u.s. defense official is also saying that russia seems to be running out of things like fuel a lot faster than they may have expected. and they're also saying they're seeing things like internet outages and an increase in the number of people trying to long beach ukraine. all of this comes as president biden convened a meeting with his national security team this morning. we are waiting to hear what the white house's readout of that meeting, and when we get it, we will bring it right to you. >> got to tell you, listening to you, as i thank you for that, conceivably based upon your description, there could be a second wave of russia boots on the ground, given the ringed perimeter where there's half o that military awaiting. thank you so much. let's go to nbc's keir simmons standing by in moscow. keir, welcome to you, i know there have been reports of russia cracking down on media outlets for referring to the attack on ukraine as an invasion. what more do you know about this, what is the coverage there

been like, and we're also hearing about more arrests of people, protesters out in the streets? >> reporter: there are more arrests, there are more protests again today, reports from an independent monitor, suggesting more than 300 arrests today. that i think gets us towards potentially around 3,000 arrests so far from these protests across russia, multiple cities. more than 50 cities, you know, alex, while russia appears to be facing challenges in its campaign in ukraine, it also, the russian government appears to be facing challenges here in russia, not just those protests but we are, alex, hearing anecdotal reports of there beginning to be very deep concern in russian businesses about this plan that seems to be coming together to remove russia

from the s.w.i.f.t. payment system. it's a european system, and the europeans beginning to agree to do that. the germans crucially swinging behind that plan, and hungary who came here to russia to talk to president putin, i guess maybe ten days ago or so, so hungary, too seems to be supporting this plan, and what we're hearing here in moscow, alex, is businesses, hotels, for example, contacting guests to ask them to make payments now for fear of what will happen when russia is -- if it is removed from that s.w.i.f.t. payment system, and then just in terms of the protests, the protests are the visual side, and you're seeing those images now in st. petersburg, here in moscow and other cities of people coming out into the streets, let's not over emphasize how many it is, but it is of course dangerous to protest in russia. we should keep that in mind, too, but alex, there are also a number of signs of the people who you might call kind of russian society opposing this

war, so for example, the children of oligarchs, even one child of a russian official going on social media to post no war. there is a reporter of 200 russian journalists signing a petition against the war, and one of those journalists was pushed out of the russian foreign office pool as a result of that. there's a russian lawmaker who voted just this past week in favor of russia recognizing those two break away republics in east ukraine, that president putin has said one of his primary issues with ukraine. this lawmaker voted in favor of that but now is saying i did not vote for kyiv to be bombed. so i think for the kremlin, there is multiple challenges.

as you mentioned, the protests, whether president putin has got the russian people behind him and the danger, the challenges in ukraine of the actual campaign begin to potentially show up. does that have an impact on the russian people's support for it? there is a lot of support for president putin here in russia, but what effect does it have if this decision that he's made for this campaign in ukraine begins to look like there may be question marks over that decision, what effect does that have, and then of course there is the diplomatic battle that is happening right now around the world with western capitals attempting to get those countries that have supported russia trying to pull him away. we saw china abstain in the security council overnight on that vote, now, they abstained when president putin annexed crimea, so we shouldn't get ahead of ourselves, but if the u.s. can persuade the chinese government not to be quite so supportive of russia, that again, will have an impact.

it is a fast-moving picture, and of course there is always, there's always that phrase that was summed up in europe, in a european war a long time ago, the fog of war. there's lots that we're hearing that's difficult to confirm, but there does appear to be just increasing unhappiness and disquiet in russia about what they are seeing in ukraine, particularly this assault on kyiv. >> absolutely. russian resistance clearly appears to be building to vladimir putin's actions, and we thank you for that comprehensive report. my friend there in moscow. joining me now, the former deputy general prosecutor of ukraine. david, welcome to you. i understand you are coming to us from kyiv. so first of all, tell me how you are doing, how safe are you where you are? >> first of all i don't think anyone who is in kyiv is safe.

you never know when a russian tactical missile will hit, or where the bullet of an infiltrated sabotage military of putin will shoot, actually. so this is not the issue about me. i feel frustrated. i feel very angry because this is second time in my life when being a civilian, when being a professionally trained lawyer, western educated, i have to take my hunting rifle and protect our freedom here in ukraine. freedom and right of existence of this country. freedom of independence, freedom of thought, and just european and western future of georgia and ukraine, and it's ridiculous what we're seeing and observing in 2022. it has been happening for 70 years already, because one paranoid president or czar of

russian federation decided that he had some paranoia and crazy idea of collecting the historic russian lens, so unfortunately when western politicians are discussing and because already whether to remove or how many sanctions are they going to impose over russian, people are literally dying in the streets. not only military people, children are dying. two kids have been murdered today because of the bombing. people are homeless. people are desperate, and it's increasing. it's growing every day. ukraine today has become the center and the main threshold of the european and western civilization, the red line is drawn already. so every businessman, european or american businessman or politician who is looking at the polls or looking at the numbers should know that he or she, if

they will be late, even for a couple of days, they will have blood on their hands, unfortunately. a lot of ukrainian people who are under aggression, and under terror of one paranoid leader who has been unfortunately been treated by the west for decades as a person who can be negotiated with, unfortunately, and unfortunately started in 2008 when the first attack and invasion of georgia happened. >> david, i think, you must have some encouragement seeing the fact that russian people right now are even protesting at their own risk of all sorts of who knows what after being arrested so that has to be encouraging but let me ask you about your president zelenskyy, he has been defiant there in terms of leaving the capital city. he is not leaving. the u.s. offered to evacuate him, and he responded to that, i

need ammunition, not a ride. you know him, david, how important is it that he does not flee, that he stands defiant against russia. what message is that sending to ukrainian people? >> i don't think that -- maybe for the u.s. administration it's important to send a signal to evacuate, but it demoralizes american people when they think that the battle is lost because you are offering the leader of this country, the president who is in charge of the military forces to flee. he's not going to flee. it was a brave decision. zelenskyy, i'm also -- i have been criticizing him for some political mistakes, but he's the president that is standing for his country as a president has to, with dignity, and bravery

and we have to give him credit and respect for this. >> how much, david, do you think that is inspiring the people there? i know the thought of him fleeing is a difficult one, and again, he turned down the offer, so it was the united states offering to take a head of state to safety where they could continue potentially working with him. that said, we have the military and the people, to what extent can that inspire him, he goes out in the evenings, finds local citizens, showing him, i'm right here on the front lines with you? >> of course he's doing a great job because he's a leader of the nation, and a crucial, a crucial -- it's crucial for him to stand actually and to be in the capital and protect his own country. how it will look, actually, or how do we think the military will t who are heroically

standing for their country and defending their country, how would they react if their president was in the united states. ukraine has captivated and ukraine will dismantle, the country will not exist, so the evacuation of the president is not the way out. the way out is strengthening ukraine with military, strengthening ukraine with financial and military resources so ukraine can stand. as a symbol of freedom and democracy. unfortunately the liberal west today cannot feel or sometimes they forget their main goal, and sometimes this has to be played by countries like ukraine, poland, taiwan, for example, and the rest. it's a serious problem of the west. i was educated in the west. these ideas, but unfortunately we saw some attempts of blaming georgia, for example, in 2008

for not being able or not being able to, let's say, not to engage with putin. now at least we don't say this kind of accusations at all with ukraine. >> you don't. ukraine has been bold and brave and courageous, and we pray that that is able to continue. david, thank you so much. we pray that you stay safe as well there, because you are right there in kyiv. thank you for your time and insights. much appreciated. meantime, we know that vladimir putin threatened quote consequence, you've never faced for your history for anyone who interferes with russia's campaign. is congress taking this as a threat. i'm going to ask a member of the house intel committee that question next. member of the house intel committee that question next.

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this breaking news to share, germany has decided to send weapons directly to ukraine, and

that includes anti-tank weapons and stinger missiles, this news has just come in to us at msnbc, and it comes as nato is moving forward with a historic deployment to bolster the eastern flank. josh lederman is in brussels with the latest on this unprecedented decision. josh to you. >> in the nearly two decades that nato has had a response force, it has never had to activate it for the deterrence against the adversary or defense of the alliance, but now, nato secretary general stoltenberg says that europe is facing the greatest security threat as it has in decades, and as a result, nato is deploying 40,000 battle ready highly trained troops that make up its response force. some of it part of a tip of the spear unit that can deploy in two days. this includes troops trained to fight on land, at sea, in the sky, as well as special operations forces, and the pentagon says that as many as 12,000 u.s. troops could be part of that effort.

they have already put on prepared to deploy status in anticipation of some of these nato troops moving into eastern europe. now, there are also concerns that as nato has a bigger presence in this area, there's a greater risk for some type of accidental military confrontation between nato or u.s. troops and russian troops, particularly in the skies. and that's why both nato and the u.s. are now working to try to set up de-con fliction, so they can coordinate, can be avoided. troops moving to eastern europe, they are not going to be fighting against russia. nato has made that clear. the u.s. has made it clear. they don't want to get into that situation with a nuclear armed military. they're going to shore up nato ally, and so if the u.s. isn't going to put troops on the

ground in ukraine, according to ukrainians, the best they can do is provide more arms and weapons and support as ukrainians are trying to fend off the well equipped russian military. two dozen russian nations announcing in a donor conference organized by the brits yesterday that they will contribute more aid to ukraine's military including another $350 million that will be coming from the biden administration making more than a billion dollars overall during the course of the run up to this conflict, and we are learning today that among that military assistance from the u.s. will be anti-tank, and anti-aircraft capabilities that the ukrainians have said they sorely need and need fast. alex. >> josh lederman in brussels, thank you so much for that update, and joining me now is indiana congressman, andre carson, a democratic member of the house intelligence and transportation and infrastructure committees. welcome back to the broadcast.

as you know, several nato countries have invoked article four, when the territorial integrity, political independence of security of any anterior is threatened. so nato is now planning defensive tactics. put in perspective, please, how significant this is? is this a sign the threat of further military action by russia is growing? >> thanks again for having me. you know, this is basically a mechanism for any member state who essentially feels threatened to call for immediate consultation with other member states, and it's a very good step in terms of adopting an aggressive defensive posture. you know, nato's article 4 decision really coincided with the call up of nato's qrf, which is the quick reaction force, an advanced team of special operations units and other advance units with very significant technological and

operational capabilities. >> we keep hearing about article v where every member agrees it will consider an armed attack against any member state as an attack against all 30 members is an attack on one. article v has only been invoked once in the history of nato in response to the september 11th terror attacks on the united states. what scenarios do you think could trigger article v today? >> well, article v is essentially nato's commitment clause. it is effectively the alliance's formal mechanism for collective defense. it is our commitment to come to the aid of allies under attack, and really vice versa. you know, article v is really the corner stone of a free and prosperous europe, free of tyranny. if vladimir putin makes an aggressive maneuver and attacks a nato member, then that would trigger article v. if, for example, putin attacks

poland or if he moves on one of the baltic states like lithuania, estonia or latvia, that would trigger article 5. president biden has been very clear, we will defend nato territory, every inch of it. i support it. >> vladimir putin has threatened quote consequences you've never faced in your history for anyone who interferes with russia's campaign. do you, sir, take that as threaten for nuclear war. is there any evidence suggesting that is a serious threat by vladimir putin? >> what i will say, and i'm always concerned about nuclear war, you know, as a senior member of the house intelligence committee and the chairman of the subcommittee on counter proliferation, and counter intelligence, you know, i think that the threat of reprisal attacks or lashing out by russia or vladimir putin are critically important in a nuclear capacity but also in the cyber domain, in response to the sanctions.

it's very high. american businesses should be very vigilant. the biden administration, they're doing everything feasible to really possibly kind of monitor those incoming threats, working with state and local and private sector partners is important. we're encouraging folks to be very proactive, to come back. these incoming cyber threats. we're going to do everything we can do on the committee in terms of monitoring the requests, especially with the leadership of chairman adam schiff and myself. we're prepared for these threats more than we were several years ago. we have better communication about the incoming threats, and we have better defenses against cyber attacks. i'm confident in our abilities and confident in the biden administration's ability to respond to these threats very rapidly. >> given, sir, the fact that russia has been blamed for a number of cyber attacks already against ukraine's government banking system, how concerned

are you that this could escalate into literally a cyber war between the united states and russia? >> well, that's always a threat. i mean, we are always updating our cyber landscape, but, you know, along with the cyber threat, there's always the nuclear threat, you know, we're concerned that the threat of even miscalculations is very high, which could of course be disastrous, you know, the u.s. and russia are the two most nuclear armed states in the world with the most lethal arsenals. america has an obligation to protect the world, essential, and that also means that we have to do everything we can to avoid nuclear war. now, military-to-military communication is critically important, and it should continue with the russians quite frankly. and really, a limited amount of avenues for diplomatic engagement should stay open. so even while we push to isolate russia diplomatically, and hold it accountable and really punish

vladimir putin, economically, some challenges have to stay open to avoid a miscalculation and avoid nuclear war for that matter. >> okay. sobering thought. let me ask you about another big story in the news that came out officially yesterday, that being president biden nominating judge ketanji brown jackson to the supreme court. how significant a move is this, sir, this moment, putting the first black woman on the high court if she's confirmed? >> oh, so important. i mean, what a compelling personal story. she's certainly qualified. having been a public defender, haing been an advocate for the indigent population. harvard grad. she served in d.c. as an attorney very honorably and respectfully. i salute the biden pick, the congressional black caucus, not to get ahead of our esteemed chairwoman beatty, we stand behind that decision, and i

think people are excited rightly so and my hope is that the senate will push her through very rapidly as we have done other picks so we can move forward. she's the choice for the day, and i'm honored and proud to say way to go president biden, and i'm so proud of her. >> and i think it's also quite extraordinary that clerks who have worked for all nine supreme court justices over the years depending, i mean, not even making note of political differences or political approaches to the bench, they have all signed a letter of congratulations in support of her nomination, which is extraordinary as well. meantime, again today, supporters of ukraine are stage ago protest at new york's time square. more than 150,000 ukrainians live in the new york area, it's the largest ukrainian population outside of ukraine. next, we're going to look at one of the most significant ways the russia ukraine conflict could affect the u.s. and change

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and take advantage of our special offer of no payments for 18 months. the u.s. is on high alerts warning the ground conflict in ukraine could spill over into cyber space. a senior u.n. defense official said electric sites were hit with cyber attacks. ukrainian government web sites and banks have been knocked offline by denial of service attacks. russia denies u.s. and cyber expert claims that it was responsible for this. so far cyber warfare hasn't reached expectations, however, warnings remain. i'm joined by miles taylor, former chief of staff in the department of homeland security and the executive director of the renew america movement. welcome back to the broadcast, miles, it's always good to have you here. give me your assessment of the level of internet and communication outages thus far. did you expect stronger attacks from the outset?

>> well, look we're still in the early stages, alex, and a lot could happen here. let's talk about two things, one, the threat, and two the response. on the threat side, we are seeing as you noted, the deployment of destructive malware in ukraine. that's of concern not just to ukraine but also potentially other countries because those types of attacks can spill outward. we're not talking just about the destruction of web sites. the fact that critical infrastructure is being targeted is a concern. why? because in the past we have seen russian cyber attacks like that go viral, and again, spread into other countries. it's often difficult to contain them in one country. so that's certainly a concern at the moment, but what's the response. now, the biden administration on the defensive side is taking important measures. they have ordered a shields up alert for the private sector around the country. they put a wonderful public servant, brandon wales in charge of the response. i know brandon, i have worked

with him. he's one of the best cyber experts in the federal government, and also we're a lot better off than we were several years ago, alex. that's the defensive side. on the offensive side, here's the thing. we're not invulnerable but at the same time that cuts both ways. if the russians decide to muck around in u.s. critical infrastructure, well, then the united states can go into russia and turn off the lights, turn off the internet, turn off the economy, and turn them upside down so that would deter them from taking that type of action. >> the u.s. can do that, but to your point, we saw the colonial pipeline attack on the oil and gas sector, also the meat processer, jbs last year, how prepared are businesses, banks, the energy sector for any potential cyber attacks, miles, because would they be the target? do you think russia could literally in an instance change things, attack the water supply here in the united states, would they attack the u.s. government and the military? what's your assessment given

your dhs background? >> yeah, well, look, when we sat in the room several years ago in the white house situation room and looked at these threats, the reality is we've come a long way over the past ten years. businesses are vastly more secure. the federal government especially dhs is much more prepared to prevent and respond to these types of potential attacks, but that said, alex, there are still significant vulnerabilities in u.s. critical infrastructure and our adversaries know it. i would go back to this, in the cold war we talked about mutually insured destruction, if i have a nuke and you have a nuke, it prevents us from using against each other. it could affect like you said, water and power and other aspects of our critical infrastructure. we could like wise do to the russian government. so i do think it's unlikely they would escalate to that level, and the biden administration has weighed this very very

carefully, and has sent signals to the russians not to engage in that type of behavior or to expect a very serious response . >> give us the sense of the nato secretary general that said article 5 could be implemented. but he declined to charge how large that would attack have to be to invoke article 5. how big do you think it would have to be? >> first, i think it's a very significant statement to make. i mean, it's clear that the nato alliance is actively trying to deter russia from engaging in this type of behavior, and again, article 5 is essentially nato's commitment that an attack on one is an attack on all, and we're talking about nearly 30 nato members that are part of the alliance. so, you know, moscow should take this warning seriously. if they deploy a significant cyber attack against a western country they're going to expect a very united response from nato. now, the big question, as you note, alex, is what type of an

attack in the cyber realm rises to the level of warfare, and that's where you get into questions about critical infrastructure, and i think that would be the significant threshold. if the russians cross the line and do things like turn off the lights and turn off the water, that's the sort of significant escalation that's going to result in a serious nato response, and they're aware of that. the kremlin will be looking at ways to deploy cyber effects short of warfare, if they decide to do that to other countries, but i would expect that would be reprisal actions and not something that they would affirmatively do at the outset. they're focused on ukraine at the moment, but look, as soon as the west starts to intervene in the conflict more, that could escalate. >> one more question about what happened on 60 minutes this week, in which you said you likely suffered from havana syndrome. that is a bout of unexplained vertigo, confusion, memory loss and the like, and now multiple u.s. homeland security officials

say they have experienced outside the white house or at their homes in d.c. the same thing. tell me what happened? >> yeah, i'll say this, alex, this is something i wrestled with for the past few years about going public. you know, i'm out there all the time on political issues and national security issues. this was a very personal thing that happened in my home, and affected my health. but i was convinced by folks that it was important to step forward because it may result in other people stepping forward with their stories. i'm glad to say that this week a number of people came to me that are in the federal government or recently served at high levels to go report incidents that happened to them. we've gotten them connected to the right folks. but what we're talking about here is what some in intelligence and law enforcement suspect is a potential radio frequency or microwave device that's being used to target diplomats, american spies and u.s. officials. the concerning thing about my case and other things of homeland security officials is it's happening here in the united states homeland. the two episodes that happened

at my home in 2018, it was several years ago, but the fact that this is happening here i said i think is a five alarm fire from a national security standpoint. we still have not, as a federal government declared who we think the actor is behind these. but i'll tell you my personal opinion. i think it's highly likely that as a nation state adversary, and very likely if it is, it's the russian federal government deploying these attacks against u.s. officials. that's a very serious thing but what needs to happen first is the attribution, the federal government needs to make attribution of who's behind this and then deliver the consequences to stop this sort of activity. >> miles taylor, stay safe and healthy my friend, i appreciate all you've shared with us. thank you so much. next, a door-to-door show of democracy. k you so much. next, a door-to-door show of democracy. or...oh! i can't wait to go there!

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a volunteer organization from florida has launched the first evacuation of u.s. citizens from ukraine since the country came under attack. the rescue operation by the tampa-based nonprofit project dynamo began thursday morning with three vehicles carrying about two dozen people fleeing kyiv for an american embassy in an undisclosed neighboring country. the rescue group, which consists mainly of military veterans, was founded last august to help evacuate americans from afghanistan after the taliban seized power. running the operation is project

dynamo's cofounder, brian stern, joining me from an undisclosed location inside ukraine. so brian, many thanks for joining us, particularly under the circumstances here, and i know you can't give us your exact location for safety reasons, but describe to us what you're seeing on the ground right now and how the situation in ukraine has deteriorated since russia launched its attack. >> yeah, the situation here is rapidly changing. in some areas -- some things for the better, some things for the worse. in some cases, our initial assessments were better, and in some cases, they were worse as well. really, the big thing is everyone's leaving. there was a sense for many weeks of, you know, this won't happen, it probably won't happen, or you know, maybe he'll just take donbas, like all of us, i suspect, there were lots of theories as to what will be and what won't be. now that everything has been realized, makes a little

problematic. >> so, what is project dynamo's biggest challenge in trying to get americans out of the country safely? >> we're confined or constrained by only a few things, really. finances is one. we are donor funded so please go to projectdynamo.org and donate. we're all volunteers. i'm not paid. nobody is paid. every dollar goes to rescuing people or to a mission. that and the threat environment, which is obviously changing and, again, in some ways, is better, in some ways, is worse. >> well, bless you for what you are doing. let me ask you how many people you have rescued so far, and how many do you think you can evacuate? >> how many we can is, again, really a function of generosity of donors. buses cost money. safe houses cost money. hotels cost money. food costs money. everything. and here in ukraine, there's a shortage of pretty much

everything, including cash, actual currency is short. gasoline is short. food is short. all those things are short. so, that -- the supply -- the resource issues are extremely real. you can't use credit cards here, and you can't wire money, and if you can't get currency and everything costs money and it becomes a real problem. >> that is a problem. how many requests have you received for this? how many have you actually gotten out this far? where are these requests coming from in? >> the requests are coming from all throughout the country. as you would expect, the population centers. so, kyiv, odesa, all over the place. request-wise, i haven't checked our database this morning, but i know that we were in excess of 2,500, maybe even 3,000 right now, and a lot of that is -- i actually think we're going to double or triple that in the coming days as power comes back online and cyber, and internet comes back online in some places. there are a lot of places that

are under brutal cyberattacks so people can't register. that's the other thing i would say. if you have family or friends in ukraine and they need to be evacuated, please go to our website, project dynamo.org and please register. if you don't do that, i can't find you. if i can't find you, i can't bring you out. it's just that simple. to, it's just like that. so, please help us. we're in it to win it. we're doing okay. everyone's safe, more or less. we have had missiles fly over us. we've had some close calls, but everything is okay. >> okay. >> our buses are cruising, and more americans will be actually on their way here in -- within a few hours on their way to the border, so it is clunky. it is changing, but it is working at the same time. >> okay. good speed to you, brian stern and project dynamo. has ukraine been tougher than russia expected? my next guest, a congressman who

served four tours in iraq will give his assessment. essman who servedou fr tours in iraq will give his assessment.

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