forces are basically battling to take control of the nation's capital of kyiv. i want you to listen to sirens ringing out in the city. warning residents to take shelter from incoming russian flower. but even inside those shelters, the city's residents are not safe. on saturday, two people were killed, six injured after ukrainian officials say this apartment building was struck by a russian missile. the missile tore a gaping hole in the side of that high rising kyiv. we should note nbc news has not been able to verify that accounts and russia denies that it is targeting civilians. ukrainians midstream of health says that people have been killed as early as saturday morning. that includes three children. over 1000 ukrainians have been injured since russia launched its invasion, and the united nations is warning that the humanitarian crisis is on the horizon. an estimated 4 million ukrainians are expected to flee to neighboring countries in the

coming days and weeks. more than 120,000 have already left the country since russia began its attack. here, we can see cars backed up for miles, thousands attempting to exit the capital city in nearby towns trying to get to safety. ukrainians are leaving their lives behind, taking only what they can physically carry with them. but one man, one leader, is committed to staying put. ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy, the comedian turned politician came into power in 2019. a relative unknown power at the time but you might remember him in the key player in the earth a phone call at the center of donald trump's first impeachment trial. now he is ploys to lead ukraine's -- since the second world war. president zelenskyy has pledged to stay in his city's capital in what he's calling target number one for the advancing russian forces.

the ukrainian force president has remained in constant contact with his struggling country, regularly posting to social media videos online, to send messages not only to ukrainians, but to people around the world, to dispel russian rumors that he has left the country. in a video address in the weeks before friday morning, the president, president zelenskyy, claimed that russia wants to, quote, destroy ukraine politically by destroying the head of the state. this comes as biden reiterated his red line promising not to send u.s. troops to ukraine. now that left zelenskyy with his stark message to his nation. we are in it alone. quote, we are left to our own devices, in defense of our state. who is ready to fight together with us? honestly? i do not see such. that is why this hour with nbc's raf sanchez in moscow. rough, lots to get to. including the developments from

moscow where a lot of eyes this meet evening are focused on. this war has created a crisis for putin back home in russia. the country is already experiencing economic and social turmoil. give us the view from moscow this evening. is there any indication that the operation is now proceeding as militarily planned? because the reporting from the united states suggests that the russians have stalled in their advance onto the capital kyiv. and there is perhaps some frustration in russia with how this operation is unfolding. >> amen, there is a vacuum if information here of what is actually happening on the battlefield of this conflict. state media is not giving any sense at all of will rather russian forces are advancing at the speed that they want to be, the refusing russian media to report on any civilian casualties inside ukraine.

interesting ali, the russian state media regulator told russian media outlets that they are not too allowed to refer to this as a war or an invasion or an attack. the term the russian government prefers's special operation, and any deviants from that line is being censored. i'll tell you ayman, there's a growing sense of alarm in moscow about those economic sanctions that the u.s. and its european allies are said they will move along with. news that russia might be partially kicked off the swift network, its central bank is going to have some of its assets frozen. it's arrived like a thunderclap here. and a lot of ordinary, middle class russians, who have nothing to do with this war, are very concerned about the value of the ruble, the russian currency, and whether their savings will be worth anything at the end of the crisis if this currency continues to slide the way it is. you know this from the middle east, sanctions are aimed at the political leadership, but

they often take out middle class people and their savings. we have seen growing descends across civil society here, 3000 people have been arrested over the last couple of days and taking part in anti war protests all across russia. that's according to a human rights group. and right interestingly, less than a week ago, the russian parliament voted unanimously to approve vladimir putin's move to recognize these breakaway separatist republics in the east of ukraine, now we are starting to see a small smattering, just to at the moment. but a small number of russian members of parliament saying, they didn't vote for this war, and they are not at all happy to see their vote being used to justify and attack the ukrainian people. >> rough, let me go to something that you said that was important, that was the information vacuum that exists right now. i know there have been reports

on russia cracking down on media outlets, certainly social media for referring to the attack on ukraine as, you mentioned, by using the word invasion. they are referring to it, as a special military operation. what more do we know generally about with the russian government is doing to limit the flow of information coming out of ukraine and the rest of the world about what is happening? >> so russia is not like china. there is a free your media environment here, but the russian government is moving very quickly to try to tempt that down as this invasion goes ahead. twitter is moving at an absolutely sluggish speed here, it has been throttled by the russian government. the state media regulators also cracking down on facebook, that is moving very slowly also. most russians are on vk, that's a russian equivalent to facebook. that's running out of sore

pace. it's interestingly here, at the moscow bureau, we have been watching russian state television, there's a lot on there trying to link the ukrainian government to the cia, to neo-nazis. weather is not as any detailed information that, as an ordinary russian citizen you would want to know. and one gaping hole is that there are no official numbers on how many russians servicemen have been killed in this war so far. the russian army is partly a conscript army, there are a lot of young men who have been just recruited to fight in that army. and they're a lot of worried families here in russia who don't know the fate of their young men. and there is no news coming out from what kind of casualties have been suffering. >> i was going to, say it must be compounding the pressure on those young soldiers to not know any information back home, and more importantly, for those back home to no information about their loved ones who are being sent to fight vladimir

putin's war. and pc news is rough sanchez in moscow. thank you for starting us off. let's continue with william taylor, he's a former ambassador to ukraine and vice president for a russia europe at the institute of peace. and nina crushable, she's a professor of international affairs of the new school in great granddaughter to former soviet premier, nikita khrushchev. i can't think of a better too to have this conversation. with ambassador taylor, i want to start with you, what's significant development today, both on the economic and military front. germany announced that it would join the list of countries sending military assistance to ukraine. it is a historical shift for this country that has tried to remain at least militarily on the sidelines when it comes to confrontations like this. it has had a long-standing policy of never sending weapons to conflict zones, but that has changed it seems. this has been critical of the west response to russia's aggression. it is ukraine, from your perspective, now getting enough

help, or the help it needs to turn the tide? >> enough help, the help it needs to turn the tide, hollande ayman, i don't think so, not yet. it's getting plenty of help. it's getting equipment, and weapons from the germans now, has you just mentioned. send qatari blinken just announced another $350 million of military assistance to ukraine. but, they need a lot and they needed now. they need it now. and to turn the tide, they need a lot of equipment, a lot of weapons that you can take out tags, they can take out aircraft. right now, they need things, amen, like vests. like protective vests. so there is a lot they need, and they need it immediately. >> you and i spoke, i believe it was two or three weeks ago, and i speak for myself maybe, but i feel that you and i were a little skeptical that vladimir putin was going to go along with this invasion despite all the assessments and the intelligence from the west that certainly the united states. in your new piece you say that

vladimir putin joins a long list of irrational tyrants and claim that he no longer seems capable of the calculations that are meant to guide leaders decision-making process. talk to me about this for a moment because i suspected two weeks ago, you and i were having this conversation, we both thought that rationality would sudden, he would see what is in the pipeline coming down towards the russian people. and yet, carrie is now, in his war and his country is being sanctioned. >> yes, thank you, for that conversation, i got a lot of [inaudible] one of the headlines was top russian expert says that she's an idiot. so i take responsibility for being an idiot but i was analyzing putin as a political figure. even though i shouldn't have. i should've really analyzed him as a mad man. which he probably now, when i

look back, i think with the constitution was amended in 2020 during covid crisis, he amended the constitution, he can now run forever. and that really made him who put in the first and he completely became irrational, unpredictable, and completely divorced from reality. it's kind of a covid syndrome. my fear is that some people beat up flight attendants because they are frustrated. and he just bombs the whole country. so wet i think, and what i wrote in the piece, he does seems like he is thinking in historical terms rather than political terms. so he's going to unite all this slavic nations that -- of tremendous importance for him, and then the blood and the horror, like it was with joseph stalin, will be forgotten. and he will stay in history as the uniter of the russian lens. >> ambassador taylor, let me ask you to comment on that. do you share the assessment that vladimir putin is no

longer a rational actor and, if so, if he is now determined or assessed to be an irrational actor, how in the world does that change with the united states does next? because, if you're dealing with and a rational actor, how far away our way from this situation spiraling out of control to a world war three level where you have russia tacking nato members, perhaps nato getting involved directly in some kind of military confrontation, because he is unable to make those rational decisions not escalate? >> ayman, i will clearly -- i have not met this man. but i bet you, ayman, and it's something you reported just said, that is the number of russian that are going to oppose this war is growing, those are the families of those russians whose sons and daughters are not coming home, or if they're coming home, they will be buried. and they -- this is going to add to the

anger at the economic problems that they will be facing. the sanctions with that were talked about today that were announced today by the g7, they can have a real effect on russians, on everyday russians. it's sad to say, but every day russians are going to feel the effects. and they are going to be angry. combined with the number of families whose sons and daughters are coming back dead, this is going to be bad for president putin. and then we do have to worry about what his reaction is. >> let me ask you, ambassador, about their leadership in ukraine. excuse me, president zelenskyy, he is a relatively new political newcomer. he has shouldered his -- leading his country on it -- certainly on the world stage, he is being praised for what he has done in these four days. has repeatedly rejected offers from countries to transport him to safety, saying he wants to stay and fight. he's saying, as you said, more

ammunition, not a right out. what do you think of aaron how do you assess or evaluate zelenskyy's leadership thus far in this war? >> i will tell you, i am very impressed with president zelenskyy. but, even more important than what i think, much more important than what i think, ukrainian people are really impressed with him. they are ready to follow him. they are impressed that he is staying there in kyiv. they are impressed that he is leading from kyiv. he is not -- he hasn't blinked, he hasn't backed down, he hasn't compromised with president putin. president putin has all this force, and not only on his border, but in his country. and the president zelenskyy is standing up. i talked to a young man who just took his family out to the western part of ukraine, he turned around, drove back to keefe, he picked up his weapon, he is now defending, and i asked him about president zelenskyy and he said he and his compatriots are very proud to stand and fight, and even

die, with president zelenskyy. they are with him. they are with him. >> it seems like a unified country. nina, a final question to you. we are seeing the street protests in russia. we are seeing notable athletes and figures that are outside of russia making statements in opposition to this war. do you feel this sense of defiance, this risk these protesters are taking by going to the streets, is going to be a part of the putin calculus or the decision-making process as we see this war drag on? >> i don't know, i'm not sure. i actually think he is now lost over certain prospects of reality. and i think the more he has to face opposition the more likely -- it will be apparent that -- this is dangerous, people are losing their jobs already. they are being threatened, imprisoned. but what is remarkable, some major theaters in st.

petersburg, they actually had the dove of peace part of their campaign for peace. and that may push, not putin, but his entourage slightly closer to try to convince him. but i don't know if he's beyond convincing. so i think that russian protest may not die but it is going to be [inaudible] dictatorship, it will be increasingly dangerous for all of these people to express their opinion. >> all, right nina crush of a, former ambassador, william taylor. thank you, i appreciate it so much. stick around, we will continue to bring out the latest out of ukraine at this. are also taking a look at president biden's historic supreme court pick, judge ketanji brown jackson. plus, the house oversight committee ramping up its administration into trump's handling of classified documents. chairwoman cameron maloney wants to know exactly what he

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decision by our european allies, the united states will join them in sanctioning president putin and foreign minister lavrov and members of the russian national security team. >> that was a major move from the biden administration targeting the pockets of vladimir putin and russian foreign minister sergey lavrov.

this is on top of a slew of sanctions against russia announced by biden earlier this week, those included restrictions on u.s. exports, essential to moscow's military defense industry, and the freezing of russian assets here in the united states. today, on top of those, there was even a bigger show of force from the west, breaking just hours ago, leaders from the european union, canada, and the u.s. of nouns they would remove selected russian banks from the swift messaging system. this, undoubtedly, is a huge deal. swift links more than 11,000 financial institutions in over 200 countries and territories to one another. but, as moscow closes in on key ukrainian cities, how much of a difference will and can these economic sanctions actually make? here to discuss this, ben rhodes, former deputy national security adviser to obama and and missed some bc political and analyst. let's start with the breaking news from earlier today.

explain to us, what does it mean for russia to be cut off from swift, or at least some russian banks to be cut off some from swift, and what do the sanctions against the central bank mean for the overall economic picture in russia? >> well, it's a big deal. these sanctions today go much further than the targeted sanctions they announced in the past. what it means to be cut off from swift is your usually cut off from the international financial system. your cut off from the capacity to access payments. i actually think the central bank is potentially larger to, amen. this is essentially the reserves -- whether sanction. this is over 600 billion dollars in reserves. to put this into perspective, that is a larger number than the entire economy of iran when iran was sanctioned similarly in 2010. they have not yet detailed what the bags are that are cut out from swift, and they have not detail just how many of those reserves they will be able to get after in terms of the

russian central bank, but this is going at the penetration of the russian economy's connection to the international financial system. and with this means's severe economy case elation of russia that, if enforced, begins to look like the kind of sanctions regime that was imposed on iran, a much smaller economy. >> two questions for you on the efficacy of these bands. one, it will take time, i think everyone will agree, it will take time for the sanctions to kick. and people are trying to prevent this war from going on a minute longer. so there is that one disconnect between how long this will take to kick it, and perhaps put -- apply some pressure on russia and vladimir putin. and, to, will there be ways for russia to get around this, through china, to create its own swift type of system that will effectively undermine swift? >> i mean, i think first of all, let's be very clear, i don't think this is going to affect

really an anyway vladimir putin's calculus in the coming days in the conduct of this war. he's clearly price didn't sanctions. he knew that sanctions were coming. they may be coming faster and at a greater velocity and scale than he anticipated, but this is a man who is divorced, i think, from the normal calculations of political leadership. he's on the kind of missile on mission here to restore his view of the russian empire. this can really affect the people around him. i am sure that it is causing some of the oligarchs and the senior officials, and the russian people themselves, to question what putin's done. when you don't see the support for what putin has done for what you've seen in the past with his military adventures. so i think it's more of a medium and longer term effect going for it. i think absolutely they will try to mitigate this both in terms of their preparations for sanctions, but also in terms of the china relationship. i will give one example. you see the united states tried to cut off exports of

technology, inputs to the russian economy. i think that's going to do is cause russia to turn increasingly to china for those kinds of technologies. it will drive those countries closer together. i think the more medium and longer term, russia and china are going to be looking for ways to minimize the impact of the dollar being the world's currency, the world reserve currency, on the capacity of the united states to wield sanctions to this effect. but there too, it will take russia and china sometime to develop those work-arounds here. >> let's move on to the sanctions that targeted putin personally because, by some estimates, he has billions of dollars hidden and buried away, making it very difficult to freeze his assets. do we generally have a good sense of how he keeps his money abroad and whether or not that even is a motivating factor for him? he doesn't come across as a person motivated by finances or lifestyle outside of russia. so trying to hit him or sergei lavrov over their assets seems

like a moot point, but i could be wrong. >> for putin himself, i think you're right. this is a man who has enormous mom wealth, enormous real estate holdings in russia. it doesn't even have to be in his name. frankly, the guy can access whatever he wants in russia and in the russian economy. he is more and more turning into a dictatorial figure, long the lines of kim jong-un figure in north korea. his lifestyle will not be impacted by this. i do think that more importantly though, it is a powerful signal that he is essentially a international pariah, as present biden said. that essentially, the world's view and the world's dealing with vladimir putin will never be the same again. i think the collective way of all these sanctions's messaging to putin, but also those around him and down to the russian people, russia will never be the same again. after this war of aggression on ukraine. it's -- as long as vladimir putin is president of that country, they will not be in good standing in any way in the national

community. there will not be business as usual anymore where you have these all look arcs and these figures who were able to basically out putin steal from the russian people and subsidizes roll and then enjoy their yachts and enjoy their mansions, and enjoy their lavish lifestyles in the west. those days are over. that is a new chapter because essentially, that is how putin kept some of the people around him happy for the musketeers. >> it's looking that we're seeing some of that take effect. we're gonna talk about that later on in the hour, ben rhodes, deputies security adviser. i appreciate you coming. on coming up, we are going to pivot from the crisis and ukraine to the discuss what president biden says about the lack of diversity on the highest court in the land. then, the russian people risking their own lives to protest the invasion in ukraine. we will tell you about that next. ukraine. ukraine. we with up to 10x faster speeds,

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been forced to watch, as russia continues to capture ukraine, it is critical to keep reminding yourself of something. the russian people or not the russian military. the russian people are not the russian government. and the russian people are certainly not vladimir putin. i hope you have seen the waves of protests that have amassed in more than 50 russian cities, over the last several days. and keep in mind, these formed after the russian regime threatened, that even the slightest example of civil disobedience would result in severe punishment, and after the government said protesters would be treated effectively like terrorists. the people you see on your screen, they are not free. they live in a crypto classic, ultra authoritarian dictatorship. a country where it's considered a criminal offense to so much hold a sign that criticizes the government. more than 2700 of them have reportedly been detained in just the last three days alone.

and despite this, despite that risk, despite that threat, they continue to stand in solidarity with ukraine. i say all of this to remind you, and to remind myself, that we cannot allow our discussed for vladimir putin's war to infect how we view the russian people. we have a responsibility to be measured in our criticism. the russian people did not ask for this war. they did not have a say in whether their sons or daughters would go fight and die and that war. and while i hope for heart sanctions to punish vladimir putin and his enablers, i have a tremendous amount of sympathy and concern for the russian people, who will suffer as a result of these measures. as a result of these measures or...oh! i can't wait to go there!

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ketanji brown jackson for the supreme court came about like so many of his big decisions, after a long process with a lot of wavering and discussion. and ultimately, landing right where he had been headed from the outset. in his announcement speech, biden touch unequivocal area that guided his choice. the lack of diversity on the highest coursed in the land. >> for too long, our government, our courts, haven't looked like america. and i believe it is time that we have a court which reflects the full talents and greatness of our nation, with a nominee of extraordinary qualifications.

and that we inspire all young people to believe that they can one day serve their country at the highest level. an accomplished lawyer, with distinguished jurors, one of the nation's most prestigious courts. my nominee for the united states supreme court's judge ketanji brown jackson. >> now, if confirmed, judge ketanji brown jackson would be the first black woman to serve on the supreme court. >> the life of the law is not logic, it's experience. and so, the more experience that can be brought to bear on our complex legal problems, the better. >> and for more on the historic nomination, we are joined now by congresswoman bonnie watson coleman of new jersey. she's a member of the congressional black congress. congresswoman, thank you so much for joining us this evening. i like to play another clip, if i can judge jackson's speech where she actually speaks to the historic nature of her nomination. take a listen to this.

>> i share a birthday with the first black woman ever to be appointed as the federal judge, the honorable constant speaker mockery. today, i proudly stand on judge monthly shoulders, sharing not only her birthday, but also her steadfast and courageous commitment to equal justice under law. >> so, the symbolism is very important. and we know what it will mean for generations of young girls in the cis this country, of all colors. what are your thoughts on the nomination of judge jackson? and what would it mean for the country to have a black woman on the court? >> let me just say that, sees just an amazing nominee. she is brilliant. she's experienced. her experiences are diverse. she's been a republican defender. she has been a judge in federal appeals court, in the district court. she, at some point, rendered 600 or so opinions, probably

the most which has ever been overturned. we're talking about someone of experience. this is historic. she is amazing and awesome, and this court definitely represents a very much homogeneous platform right now. and to have someone like her, her credentials, her experience, her experiential life, as well as her intellect, is going to be a plus for this court. so this is very historic. >> and i want to talk to you a little bit about that personal experience. let me play for you and our viewers another clip, where she actually references her family, and how that personal experience shaped her life. watch. >> you may have read, that i have one uncle, who got caught up in the drug trade, and received a life sentence.

that is true. but law enforcement also runs in my family. in addition to my brother, i had two uncles who served decades as police officers, one of whom became the police chief in my hometown of miami, florida. i am standing here today, by the grace of god, as testament to the love and support that i have received from my family. >> so, as you mentioned there, one of the judges uncles was a miami police chief. another was the police detective, and a third was sentenced to life in prison for possessing a large amount of cocaine. we showed president obama commuted his sentence in 2016. when i'm interested to hear from you, congresswoman, which with such a diverse experience bring to the supreme court? >> compassion knit understanding, and what it means for justice to be served. she has already demonstrated that in her career. she called attention to the

issue of justice fairness, and her marvelous acceptance speech of the presidents nomination. i wanna say how proud i am of the president. he has delivered. he's been doing that, and we have elected him for a reason. this is an amazing candidate. this is an amazing nominee. she happens to be a black woman, that is historic. that is every little girl in this country, even every little boy that is the same color as the judge is, is that you could be anything you want to be, if you have the determination, the will, the education and opportunity. and so, all, judge brown, she's going to have a profound impact on the court. now, having said that, we know that this is a very determinative court. we know that her one voice is not going to change things immediately. when she speaks truth and power, and she speaks to the rule of law, and i believe that's gonna

have an impact on what her colleagues on the bench will feel, react to, and perhaps, moderate some of there -- where it doesn't represent where we should be going. >> i was gonna say, i read some analysis that suggest that even being a sole voice of conscience for the bench is important. you know, these two cents that we've seen come out of justice my or, sometimes in the minority. but they're very powerful descendants, and they serve as a conscious to where the court is going. and where it is. let me ask really quick, congresswoman, about the politics of this. judge jackson was nominated to the district court. just eight months ago, she actually was confirmed by the senate, the very senate that is gonna consider her, once again. she passed that 53 to 44, with three republicans voting with democrats. but even before her nomination was formally announced, this time, around congressional

republicans, attack the choice. you have senator lindsey graham, tweeting out that biden's choice means that elastic left has one president biden yet over again. others are saying there shouldn't be a rushed process, trying to drag it out. what kind of confirmation fight can we expect from republicans? i mean, will this get ugly? or will they allow the confirmation to go forward? >> you know, republicans are just being chaotic and disruptive, because that's what they are. they have nothing else to stay to the people of this country. they're not doing their job. they're not representing their goals. so i expect them but -- i mean [inaudible] not at this nominee, just eight months ago, she was before you all. she's been investigated. she's been in conversation with you. you know everything there is to know about her, and it is amazing to qualify. though there should be an easy

lift for the senate to do their job. but knowing what republicans are like right now, we have the expect, disruptive and dishonest. >> i was gonna say, it'll be interesting to see how it plays out. congresswoman, thank you so much for joining us this evening. greatly appreciated as always. >> thank you very much. >> house oversight chairwoman, carolyn maloney, joins me next to discuss her committee's investigation into trump's mishandling of presidential records. plus, that insane support, the logical support from some conservatives of none other than vladimir putin. my saturday night panel is coming up next. putin. my saturday night panel is coming up next

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revelations about the presidential records that trump improperly took with him to mar-a-lago. some records are apparently so sensitive that there may be limits to how those documents can be described to the general public. the washington post is reporting that some of the documents taken by the national archives are under the very highest levels of classification, and can only be viewed by a small number of government officials. that news comes as the chairwoman of the house oversight committee suggests she is broadening her panels investigation into the breadth of potential records, and the potential violations of the records act under trump. i am now joined by the chairwoman of the house oversight committee, congresswoman carolyn maloney.

congresswoman, thank you so much for joining us this evening. let me start by asking you, what additional information are you requesting from the national archives, at this moment? >> well, ayman, we are seeking detailed accounting of all of the materials that were included in those 15 boxes that were the level to her home, including old classified documents that were recovered. old classified documents have already been sent to the department of justice for their review and follow up. we're also seeking the documents that the archives obtained, ripped up, we're interested in seeing what did they rip up. they pasted some of them together, but they literally shipped over torn up documents that the archives are putting together, so we requested to be able to be view all of these doorknob documents. and i'm interested, very interested, in the trump

administration's internal communication on how they communicated about these talks, about their efforts to preserve them or destroy them. we are expanding our investigation. >> you're right, congresswoman, in the letter to the national archive that you are deeply concerned that donald trump broke the law. why? why do you believe that? >> because the law says that these documents belong to the american people. they don't belong to him. and the law says that he should turn them over to the archives, to be preserved for history. and yet, he decided to keep 15 boxes. i want to know it was in those boxes. and to review what exactly happened. now, the reason i'm committed to uncovering the full depth of the actions, because i want to see the full depth of the presidential records act

violation, so that they have occurred by former president trump and his administration. and we need to use these findings to advance critical reforms, in order to prevent future abuses. we need to really have a better control over the documents, for the purpose of history. and certainly, public documents should not be destroyed. >> can i just ask you to expand on something you just said a moment ago? you also requested, as you were just saying, documents and communications relating to white house employees, or contractors finding papers and a toilet in the white house, what can you tell us about that? >> it has been reported in the press, and it's been reported in other ways, and it's been reported by whistleblowers. that documents were torn up and put in the twilight, and flushed. they brought in contractors to remove these documents, i would understand who these contractors were, what did they find, whatever those documents?

it's astonishing when you think about it! >> it's absolutely astonishing and troubling. >> almost unbelievable! it's almost unbelievable that the president of the united states allegedly tore up documents and flush them down the commode. >> it's probably no surprise that he has denied wrongdoing, repeatedly denied wrongdoing, saying that some of the items he took from the white house where gifts and momentous. hard for you to believe that? your response? >> i would say that classified documents, highly classified documents are not mementos. they are critical information for our country, that needs to be preserved and protected and studied by the appropriate people. >> let me ask you, finally, you had attorney general, merrick garland, confirmed earlier this week that in fact the department of justice is looking into this matter. are you prepared to issue a criminal referral? do you think the department of justice is moving at a fast enough speed in this investigation? >> that's not my job.

my job is to uncover the information, to look at ways to reform the system and make it stronger, and more accountable and, transparent to the american people. that is his job. i trust him. he has an excellent record. you probably said that he will uphold the law, and that the president is not about the law, no one is above the law. he will uphold the law, and he will study every document, and proceed accordingly. that is his job. >> all right, congresswoman, we will check back with you as this continues to develop. thank you so much for your time this evening. >> i'm gonna be watching your next panel. i can't wait to see it. >> thank you so much. i'm really happy to hear that. he'll free to join in if you'd like, if you have some time, your mall than welcome to call back in. >> okay, thank you. always a pleasure joining you. >> same here. thank you, congresswoman. next, the unbreakable spirit of the ukrainian people. , the unbreakable

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>> good evening everyone, and good evening welcome back to the everyone, and second hour of ayman. welcome to the second hour of the show. explosions continue across ukraine, russian assault now in its fourth day. ukrainian defense forces are battling right this minute to can maintain control of the nation's capital, kyiv, where our rates are, as you hear on your screens, have been heard throughout the morning hours. meanwhile, the economic pressure on russia, on vladimir putin, continues to build as the united states -- excuse me, european union countries, uk, and, canada announced hours ago that certain russian banks will be barred from global banking services, swiftly. swift. thousands of protesters in russia risking their lives, condemning russia. this is the scene in st. petersburg tonight, thousands of demonstrators risking their lives in protest of vladimir's putin's russia.