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good evening, everybody. it is midnight here on the east coast and 7:00 a.m. in ukraine, where the country has entered day four of russia's invasion. ukrainians are continuing to fight for their homeland as we speak. with the attacks overnight becoming so much more intense. there's new video from reuters showing a massive fire that has broken out after a supposed missile strike hit an oil depot. nbc news has not independently verified that video. ukrainian officials say the fire can be seen from more than 20 miles away, telling residents to keep their windows closed due to possible smoke and harmful substances in the air. despite these russian missile attacks, the uk defense ministry is saying russia is not making the progress they had planned because they are suffering from logistical challenges and strong ukrainian resistance. that resistance including
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everyday ukrainian civilians who have taken up arms to fight the russians. right now a number of russian troops have in fact been taken prisoner. all of this coming as the united states and its allies have agreed to limit russian access to s.w.i.f.t. banking system, essentially barring some russian banks from international transactions. a lot to get to this evening. want to begin, though, with the tens of thousands of ukrainians forced out of their homes to escape russian violence. neighboring countries are monitoring the exodus, flagging concerns that a full blown incursion could lead to a major refugee crisis, with serious humanitarian and political costs. i want to go to elsa barber on the ground at one of the check points in poland where thousands of refugees have been fleeing. it's great to see you. thanks for joining us.
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thanks for joining us. how many people are we seeing come across the border just over the last 24 hours? and how many more are expected to arrive? and where are they going? >> reporter: so, in poland, the polish government says they've seen 100,000 ukrainian refugees cross into the country really in the last 48 hours. they expect those numbers to continue to rise. this is one of eight check points in poland, where people can come from ukraine to cross over. at this check point, you are only able to cross through if you were traveling by car. but others, they allow you to crosby foot and also by car. just a moment ago, before we came here to talk to you, we watched as families, children came over from the border and reunited with other loved ones saying what they left was terrible. there was a bus that was here that made its way down this way. it had come to lithuania to pick up refugees to take them back. when you look over here -- and
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we were here last night as well -- there is food, there are stations that have been set up. many of these things set up by local members of the communities here in this part of poland. and they are offering food, rides to refugees as they come across the border. last night we saw two young men standing here holding signs. written on it were cities nearby. they were offering rides, standing in the cold, hoping if anyone wanted a ride in their car -- had already given three different groups of people rides. listen. >> have you given anyone a ride? >> yes, three people to the point and some people do to the refugees point. >> what were they feeling? what did they say to you? >> they were so happy because they were relieved they would
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have a safe point in the polish country. they have family from ukraine. >> reporter: the food, the people you see here, all of this stuff has been donated by members of the local community, hoping that they can do something here to help. you see people cross through these check points. they are often in tears. grateful to be reunited with their loved ones. the people on this side grateful to see them make it across safely. remember now in ukraine men are not able to leave the country if they are of fighting age. so, we are seeing and hearing story of fathers, brothers, husbands coming to check points like this and then sending their
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family over so they can go back and fight. yasmin? >> i've seen so many of those videos, and it is so incredibly heartbreaking. also heartbreaking to think about the fact that they're asking men, as you mentioned, from ages 18-60 to remain behind to defend their country. i'm sure there's many men at 60 years of age who didn't necessarily think that would be their fate right about now. thank you for your reporting on this. we appreciate it. please stay close. want to go now to a ukrainian citizen who is coordinating refugee efforts. joining me, ceo of go global ngo. thank you so much for joining me. we appreciate it. talk to me about the situation there because i was just speaking to our correspondent on the ground, ellison, speaking of the refugees crossing the border
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into poland. and i can't help but think, where do they go? not everybody has family or friends in which they can seek shelter with. what's the plan in poland right now? >> thank you for having me. and thank you for putting so much efforts to show what is happening in ukraine. the situation here is unprecedented because the number of refugees that is expected is much higher than predicted before because putin started a large-scale invasion. maybe -- not maybe, but you know he also is in western ukraine, that previously considered to be the safest location within ukraine. so, people are fleeing to neighboring countries. we are now here in poland. and i must tell a friend here that polish people and polish government has been amazingly
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supportive, amazingly supportive. we have here hundreds of people who are ready to host ukrainian refugees for free. we have here hundreds of thousands of people who are ready to come to the border to pick up the families and pick up the people. we have here not only volunteer organizations who knows how to work with refugees, but we have here initial communities who are just coming up in order to support ukrainians and support the population. the government has established a special population center for that, and poland is becoming much more than one country. it will be a whole hub, support from the whole europe and from the whole actual world. because from poland it's very -- it's logistically logical to bring some help to ukraine but also, again, poland is hosting
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so many refugees from ukraine and such. the systems are only being put into place. but the feeling and the amazing support that we have here is absolutely unprecedented. >> we see so much emotion from so many of these people that are happening across the border, so many young children coming with their mothers, their fathers being left behind to have to fight the russians. is there emotional support for these refugees right now? is the government help progress is the government helping provide that? >> now all the systems are being established. we have the first stage support that should be given. meet the people, bring them to locations, find safety locations for them, find new homes for them. and then the next stage, like, working with their emotions and their -- and giving them
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everything that they need because people are going without -- with nothing actually. so, with one bag or generally just having their children. so, everything has to be provided for those people here. and only then will the second stages of emotional support or then the stages of how they can be integrated here, what can they do here, that's the next stages that will be done. generally now around -- in general estimations, around 5 million refugees, if the situation will continue to go that way, russia will continue full-scale invasion, using all of their weapons, around 5 million people are expected to become refugees. in ukraine. but i also must tell you that -- i must tell you frankly that you are saying being separated. but i must tell you frankly that a lot of men are volunteering going to protect their country.
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only yesterday around 10,000 ukrainians left men, left from poland to ukraine voluntarily to continue the battle. so, you must understand that for -- we never ever -- maybe the last time it was in the second world war -- expected or been in such situation. so, the whole -- the whole atmosphere here in ukraine is totally different. and we do understand that it's fight for our country, for our freedom, for our lives. so, you're right, it's absolutely -- >> we are seeing that even from here, the country rallying behind one another from the president on down, ukrainian both men and women wanting to fight for their country against the russians and this unexplainable invasion. thank you so much for the work that you're doing.
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and please stay safe. we wish you the best. we want to turn now to russia. the united states, canada, and eu nations announcing select russian banks will in fact officially be expelled from s.w.i.f.t. saying in a joint statement that the move is designed to ensure that putin's war on ukraine is, quote, a strategic failure. nbc's raphe sanchez is in moscow for us. raphe, it is good to talk to you once again. listen, putin has made sure that the russian public is in an information bubble regarding ukraine, shutting down social media left and right, making sure they only see what the russian government wants them to see on russian television. but he cannot hide what is about to happen when it comes to the russian economy. when it comes to the bank accounts of russian people. what are we hearing on the ground there so far, how russians, in fact, are reacting? >> people here are really afraid about what the next couple of
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days are going to mean. they're afraid for what the value of the ruble is going to be in a couple day's time, whether their currency is going to be worth anything. they're worried about whether credit cards are going to function normally. they're worried about inflation, whether their savings are going to be wiped out or not. i spoke to a man who a couple of weeks ago took all of his savings and he bought a house because he had a feeling that this escalation in ukraine was going to lead to devastating consequences for the russian economy. we are waiting to hear an official response from the kremlin to these moves by the western allies. they've said in the past they would consider it an act of war to be cut off from the s.w.i.f.t. banking system. and the russians do have a card to play here. they have threatened to turn off gas supplies to europe. we're still in the middle of winter now. that is a potent threat. it's one that they've made recently. and it's part of the reason, yasmin, that the west has been so reluctant to take this
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nuclear option of cutting russia off from the s.w.i.f.t. system because of the fear of how russia might react. now, the allies have crossed that rubicon. so, we are waiting to see now how russia responds. and then the other big question is sort of about how modern russia works under vladimir putin. does the fact that ordinary middle class russians are going to be very, very severely squeezed by this have an impact on the russian leadership? because that of course is the hope in washington and in the european capitals, that this will change the mind of vladimir putin. but the russian president is more cut off from his people than ever before, so we'll have to see. >> yeah, i think that is the big question. and we're also hearing from ukrainians, by the way, hoping that the russian people inside russia are, in fact, then motivated to act against their government, as they are being squeezed financially and
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economically. raphe sanchez, for now, thank you as always for your reporting on this. these past few days have been the most straining relationship between the united states and russia since john f. kennedy stared down the soviet union in the 1962 cuban missile crisis. chief correspondent for the "new york times" writes mr. biden and mr. putin are testing their understandings of one another as never before, trying to anticipate and outmaneuver each other with the fate of millions of people in the balance. and peter baker is joining me now. as always, peter, it's great to see you and talk to you at this hour. talk me through this standoff that we are seeing between vladimir putin and joe biden and how their standoff is comparable to kennedy and khrushchev. >> well, it's not comparable in the sense that we're not in a direct military potential situation with russia.
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we're not about to go to war with russia, certainly not intentionally. president biden made very clear he's not sending american troops to ukraine. but it is a standoff for basically the international order and in fact for the future of europe. i think in some ways we haven't seen an american president and russian president eyeball to eyeball in this way in the six decades since kennedy and khrushchev. there were moments of great friction, during the cold war, especially, but never in crisis in an acute way with guns blazing in the middle of europe and so much at stake. you saw consequences for everyday russians as well as the russian elite. president biden has made it personal with president putin. he's now imposed sanctions on putin himself. that's something that americans generally don't do. we usually don't sanction heads of state. this puts putin in the category of alexander lukashenko from belarus, pariah leaders who
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aren't welcome on any international stage. this is how quickly this has escalated into confrontation. president putin is gambling president biden doesn't have the wherewithal to keep the appliance up while he, that is president putin, takes over ukraine. >> it's interesting, right, as you bring up, i keep thinking about the situation in syria and bashar al saud in comparison to this. and i think about it because they both have similar mentalities when it comes to leadership. and you talk about how he was personally sanctioned. and that did not motivate him to back off, right? he has gassed his own people, killing hundreds of thousands of syrians inside that country. and i think the overarching question here is with vladimir putin, will these sanctions motivate vladimir putin to, in fact, back off. and you in fact, right, that these traditional tool of
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deterrence and diplomacy may in fact not be enough. >> right because in fact here you've got a situation where we believe anywhere vladimir putin sees this as a legacy for him. in other words, he's now been in office for 22, 23 years. he's about to turn 70. he's thinking about his place in history, and he wants to reverse the results of the 1991 collapse of the soviet union to some extent, rebuild, at least to some extent, the russian empire. and to that kind of mess yannick mission, it's awfully hard to get into that decision calculus through economic means or through diplomacy. he already knew going into this they would sanction him. he knew they would probably cut him off from the s.w.i.f.t. banking system. he knew that they would impose these kind of measures, and he decided to do it anyway. he decided the trade-off was worth it and he was willing to pay the cost. the question is whether the rest of russia is willing to pay the cost and whether that was in his
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decision calculus. the more ukraine goes badly, it begins to wear on public support. and yes, you're right. they don't have access to the kind of media we do, but they will know because body bags will come home, boys will go missing. and they're being told to shoot and kill they're brother slavs. >> for no reason that has been made known to the general russian public. peter baker, as always, brilliant analysis on this. and we thank you for your reporting. our special coverage, everybody, continuing with an update on action from ukraine's neighboring allies. first in the midst of this crisis, none other than marjorie taylor greene, how the republican party is defending her actions as it rallies around trump at cpac. we'll be right back.
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former president trump called putin, quote, smart, while blasting nato nations as well as president biden's latest sanctions. nbc vaughn hillyard has more on this. >> yasmin, former president trump is still very much the leader of this republican party here. and when you're talking about not only the united states but a united nato front confronting a russian military that is invading ukraine, of course attention has to be set on where one of the two of the major political parties here in the united states stands. and of course former president trump intended to have a warmer relationship with vladimir putin over the course of his presidency. but now it was just earlier this week in which he was still referring to vladimir putin as savvy and called those initial russians entering ukraine earlier this week, quote, peace keepers. but that is where the ears were open here tonight as to what his message about vladimir putin would be now. i want to let you hear from him because he did refer to
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ukrainian president zelenskyy as brave and said that this would not have happened under his own presidency. but when he brought up nato and the united states, this is what he said. >> yesterday reporters asked me if i thought president putin was smart. i said, of course he's smart. putin is saying, they're going to sanction me. they sanctioned me for the last 25 years. you mean i can take over a whole country and they're going to sanction me? the problem is not that putin is smart -- the real problem is that our leaders are dumb. >> of course the trump administration was the one that held up nearly $400 million in military aid to ukraine back in 2019 ahead of that infamous phone call in which the former president asked for a favor. at the same time here this is a different moment in time. and even secretary pompeo yesterday when i talked to him in the halls of cpac, he was forced to confront, after calling vladimir putin savvy himself earlier this week, he had to push back.
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just like you heard from the former president here tonight, against this russian invasion into ukraine, as we speak here, yasmin. >> all right. our thanks to vaughn hillyard for that. coming up, everybody, the rapidly growing refugee crisis along ukraine's western border. we'll be right back. g ukraine'sr g ukraine'sr we'll be right back. or fist bump there, or...oh! i can't wait to go there! or reunite there, ♪ ♪ start here. walgreens makes it easy to stay protected wherever you go. schedule your free covid-19 booster today.
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european nations all agreeing to take aim at putin through s.w.i.f.t., a service that facilitates global transactions from thousands of financial institutions and its central bank. meanwhile the u.n. has confirmed at least 240 civilian casualties. all of this, as hundreds of thousands desperately are fleeing their homes, crossing borders into nearby european countries, in what could quickly become a refugee crisis. allies meanwhile bolstering their arm supply to ukraine, even breaking long standing policy to do so in a major shift. germany announcing it will give 1,000 anti-tank weapons. that news arriving just hours after germany's economy and ministry revealed it would also
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allow the netherlands to ship weapons to ukrainian forces. germany is one of key nato allys that continues to supply critical arms to ukraine, the u.s. among them. as russian forces are bearing down on the nation's capital. the biden administration carefully examining legal questions about whether the u.s. can provide ukraine with certain weapons and intelligence. in the meantime has ordered the release of $350 million in military aid to ukrainian forces. at least 150,000 ukrainians have fled their country thus far as well. cnbc speaking with former u.s. ambassador to the u.n. samantha power, who currently heads up the u.s. agency for international sbopment. i want to take a listen to her thoughts, picking up on how dire this refugee crisis on ukraine's western border really is. >> it's very serious, and obviously families are backed up
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for 25, 29 hours in some places. the numbers coming over increasing by 30, 40, 50% every day. and it stems from putin's increasing brutality and the way he has sent missiles and shell fire and tanks into civilian centers. >> the current u.s. ambassador to the u.n. has talked about numbers as high as 5 million refugees from this crisis. are we seeing any evidence of those kind of numbers? >> well, it's early days. a lot of ukrainians wanted to stay and continue to want to stay, some to stay to fight, some because they don't want to leave their homes. many have moved into western ukraine and would prefer to stay within ukraine's borders if they can. and it's not clear yet what putin's intentions are with regard to western ukraine. so, i think those numbers are very realistic though. if you take the scale of the brutality being inflicted.
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and i will say the welcoming posture that the frontline states have taken toward those refugees. that has to be commended. poland has done away with all covid-related requirements, all paperwork requirements, basically just show any id you can come across. now, it does take time to come across. but just to stress, this is an overwhelming crisis. and the systems are in place to deal with some population flow. but the systems are going to be ramped up dramatically on this side of these borders in the next day or two. >> a lot of coordination now from yourselves and others about the humanitarian effort. but has the west been napping on this one? i spoke to senator mccain in 2014 in kyiv, and he said we need to support kyiv and ukraine militarily, get them into nato quickly. do you think the west has been caught napping? >> look, the united states has been out there for months warning of this invasion.
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we've been working with the ukrainian government since 1992 and in a much more intense way since 2014 and the democratic revolution. usa alone has been involved in helping ukraine diversify its energy sources, build up its cyber security so it's able to respond to the kinds of cyber attacks that have been striking its systems in recent days, and building the rule of law, fighting corruption, and building democratic institutions. the ukraine of today is not the ukraine of eight years ago, nor is the ukrainian military the ukrainian military of eight years ago. putin has a very large military that he has sicked upon an innocent civilian population, unprovoked act of aggression. and the ukrainian people and the ukrainian military are doing their best to stave that off. but that should take nothing away from the kind of country that the ukrainian people have built over these years and the kind of support i think that the
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international community has offered, that effort to secure independence, prosperity, and democracy. >> quickly, administrator, do you see any diplomatic wear of this. is there only a military solution or do you see a diplomatic solution? >> well, the only way to stave off human tragedy is a diplomatic solution. and certainly the ukrainians have made very clear that that is what they are interested in. but all putin has done so far is answered with tanks. >> and that was samantha power, former u.s. ambassador to the u.n. our special coverage continuing with how putin's plan may be having the opposite intent than he expected. we'll explain that after the break. n he expected. we'll explain that after the minutes or a song in seconds. (mindy) yep! (vo) verizon is going ultra so you can do more.
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welcome back, everybody. as the united states and its allies work to hinder russian president vladimir putin's invasion of ukraine, president biden said earlier today that the attack is having the opposite affect putin intended, making nato and other western countries more unified than ever. >> my goal from the very beginning was to make sure that i kept all of nato and the european on the same page because the one thing i think that putin thought he could do
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was split nato, creating a great aperture for him to be able to walk through. and that hasn't happened, if you noticed. it's been complete unanimity. >> all right ft let's talk about this. tara setmeyer with me. also with me, juanita tolliver, democratic strategist and msnbc political analyst. thanks for joining us this evening with this special coverage. talk to me first about this unanimity that we've seen within nato, right, russia threatening of course finland, sweden. when it comes to joining nato, those countries brushing it off. the president is right. we are seeing a unified nato here despite what vladimir putin actually wanted when it came to his threats prior to invading ukraine. how significant is this? >> it's extremely significant. and it is the polar opposite of
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what we had during the four years of donald trump. you would have thought that donald trump was basically an intelligence asset of vladimir putin the entire time he was president because he seemed to acquiesce to what putin wanted, which was the dismantling of nato. how many times did trump excoriate nato, complain, and do basically putin's bidding to try to weaken nato during his presidency. so, thank goodness for the leadership of president biden coming in and reassuring the world and our security alliances, which are extremely important in europe, that we are with you, we will support you, and that nato is stronger than ever. and i think that vladimir putin absolutely underestimated not only the resolve of nato but of the ukrainian people. and we're seeing the importance of this unanimity play out right now because otherwise maybe putin would have had a easier time here. but he's not.
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and as these sanctions and as these moves start to kick in, we will see what happens with him because he's -- this invasion is not going the way he planned. >> and then, juanita, there is the swiss banking system, right, the limit of access to the swiss banking system when it comes to russia, right, this new sanction it seems are going to be placed on them. and if you think about, right, in juxtaposition to the unanimity we're seeing within nato, this is something that will subsequently hurt europe both fancily and economically as well and their energy systems. this is something that's going to hurt the united states as well. but in spite of all of that, they are moving ahead with this. >> you're right, yasmin. and the pain is probably i think why they hesitated to implement this move initially. remember biden said mere hours ago that he couldn't get all of the nato allies on board with
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implementing this disconnect from the s.w.i.f.t. system for the russian banks, especially the russian central bank, which we know houses a lot of the resources that putin is going to be relying upon for this war he's inflicted and initiated in ukraine. i do think, though, that the impact of swift is going to be much swifter than the other sanctions. as some reporters have been saying out of moscow, i saw a report that they asked him to settle his bill early because they weren't sure if the credit card machines would be working. this is something that's going to impact companies, businesses, and individuals who have their money in these banks as well and their ability to access their own funds. >> and then, tara, there's this kind of age-old phrase i should say, right, where politics stops at the border. but that's not happening. the republican party here in the united states praising to a
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certain extent, cpac, we've seen, the former president praising vladimir putin. want to play for you some sound of a 2020 delaware senate candidate, and we'll talk on the other side. >> here's the deal also, you know, russia is a christian nationalist nation. they're actually orthodox christian, russian orthodox. i support putin's right to protect his people and put his people first but also protect values. i identify more with putin's christian values than i do with joe biden. >> i -- i -- i don't even know what to make of this, tara. what is the motivation here? why would she say something like that? why would these prominent republicans stand up for vladimir putin? >> it is insanity. it's treachery. it's treasonous.
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these people have lost it. and i saw that video also, and i just couldn't get over how many of them are actually out there. i called her a traitorous twit. but there are a lot of them, unfortunately. and we saw this coming from the former president of the united states for days now. actually for years praising vladimir putin. and now you have the republican party becoming basically comrades of vladimir putin's. and they are more aligned with mother russia than they are with democratic values here in the united states. that is disgraceful. fox news has become a vasal state of propaganda for russia. and the republican party, for the most part, has -- has decided that they're going to choose this protofascist authoritarianism ove defending western democracy. it's disgraceful and they should be called out for it. i don't know what else the american people need to see with
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the fall of the republican party this far down this authoritarian road. shame on them. >> when you just quickly talk to me about how this is going to affect the president right now inside an election year. of course we've talked about how this leads up to the midterms and how the pandemic would affect his midterms, his slipping approval rating, the economy which of course is doing well but of course inflation is higher than projected and expected. wage growth not as high as it should be. but of course now we are watching how he has dealt with the situation in ukraine and how he has confronted vladimir putin head on. how do you see this playing for the president when it comes to the midterms with democrats in general? >> look, it's another crisis in a midterm year, which is not something democrats would want. but the reality is the way the president is standing up and responding and being an international leader, restoring the u.s. to its rightful position in organizations like
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nato, it's going to have a positive impact. the polling overwhelmingly sets the just that americans support every move he's made from the diplomatic moves to the sanctions and everything that he's done so far as well as his commitment to not use american troops on the front lines of this war. so, i think the president should continue overcommunicating with the american public about steps that he is taking. and he should continue to maintain this strong posture against putin because backing down is not an option. and the coordination you played in the clip at the start of the segment is something he should continue to herald and expect him to herald at the his state of the union address next week. the one reality check point here though is that for everything the president does right, it is not gaining any support with republicans, and that's just the reality in this divided time. >> tara setmeyer, juanita tolliver, thank you both for joining me this evening. i appreciate it.
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the map that you have on your screen right now showing the regions where masks are still recommended. and that is the areas that are in red there. joining me now to talk more about this is nbc medical contributor dr. kavita patel. dr. patel, thanks for joining us. you tweeted out three separate groups that are wondering what are am i doing? parents of young kids under the age of 5, those kids not able to get vaccinated yet. persons with immune conditions and people who got the j&j covid vaccine. expand on this for me. >> yeah, just briefly, yasmin, obviously parents with children under 5 and mixed households, no vaccines, and the masks coming off. we still have children getting sick with the bulk of people getting sick under the age of 5 in hospitalizations over the last several months. and not just people with
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immunocompromised conditions, but the cdc made this very equivocal guidance on talk to your health care provider if you're at risk of getting severe covid. when you wrack up the conditions that cause it, everything from physical inactivity -- which, by the way, everyone, including myself, have had experience with the last two years -- combined with diabetes and high blood pressure. yeah, you should wear a mask, especially while we're still waiting for numbers to come down across much of the country. third, about 18 million people who have received the j&j vaccine, which have only had guidance to get a second shot and not really much guidance on how much those two shoets protect them, especially in light of the omicron variant. >> can we also talk about travel here? we know obviously interstate travel systems, tsa mask mandates staying in place until at least march 18th. do you think it should go beyond that? you worry about of course traveling, being inside airports, inside enclosed trains, and being unmasked is
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going to seem pretty uncomfortable, i have to say, considering -- >> i do agree. >> my kids are still out there. >> i do think that guidance should be extended. it's not just that i love wearing masks all day. but it's because of all the things we talked about, the people who don't have access to vaccines. and i'll add we still don't have the therapeutics for everyone available. under the age of 12 we don't have magic pills, monoclonal antibodies, antiviral treatments that we can offer. so, again, we're seeing a pattern here. we should get those numbers down. and especially in public spaces. i would love to keep those masks, especially, you probably know my family, your family, we're all going to have spring break over the next two months. that's going to be interstate travel, probably foreign travel. so, i think those are the right times to be concerned. we don't have a surge so we can take our masks off safely. >> dr. kavita patel, as always,
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