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nbc world headquarters in new york. i am chris jansen. it is already been an eventful several hours. breaking news on russia's invasion of ukraine. there it is 11 am. and president zelenskyy has been assessing -- for another brutal night of hallie shoveling. in a brutal address he says they are targeting cities. and describes their actions of the sign of genocide. the ap is reporting that russia attacked airfields and facilities last night. firing -- and an oil part blind in kharkiv, before small groups of russian fires entered the city. the police chief is still urging people to stay in shelters. saying fighting has made it too difficult to go outside, stay
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off the streets. and they say russia has seized control of a southern city. satellite images taken yesterday show that russian -- heading into a city where hydro plants and dam are located. meanwhile, on the russian side, they say they have sent a delegation for talks to ukraine in belarus. but president was zelenskyy rejected the offer. saying that the country was complicit. but he is open to talking in other countries. overnight, a steady stream of refugees continuing to arrive as many as 150,000 people have already left ukraine. a reporter on the ground says 100,000 of them are believed to be in poland right now. we see so many people being displaced. stuck in lines of traffic, trying to escape. but as they make their way out, some are making their way back into ukraine. and joining in the fight against russia. among those boarding buses and
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prague, a woman who said that she was prepared for a fight in ukraine. >> if somebody give me a weapon, i will fight. i am not afraid! i can shoot! i will shoot all the russian soldiers. and other people who want bad for us. that for ukraine. that for my family. what i can shoot. i am not afraid. i want to fight! >> remarkable scenes there. and thousands of protesters took to the streets of melbourne today, to protest against russia's invasions. you see there, carrying ukrainian flags. showing their support for the country. and right now we are following developments overseas and here at home. we have a team of correspondents standing by with the latest. let's go to nbc news foreign correspondent in moscow. ralph, so the government says
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that the russian delegation arrived in belarus for talks with ukrainians. ukrainians said you've got to be kidding me! it's a country that's aligned with russia, we're not gonna hold talks there. where does that leave us? >> yeah, i think as part of what presidential in ski confirms is that belarus is a part of russian territory. it's a staging ground. for russian troops driving south towards kyiv. they've been coming out of belarus. president says that there is been rocket fire from belarus. he said that he is prepared to meet in any other venue than that one. he suggested turkey, he suggested poland. we are now waiting to see if the kremlin will take him up on that. and agreed to an alternate venue. and that will be a task to up the really big question. because right now we are talking about talks. but the really big question is, well vladimir putin meet? is this for real? is this offer a peaceful
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negotiation to end the fighting for real or not? you spoke a little earlier to michael mcfaul, the former u.s. ambassador to russia. he made very clear he did not think so. >> remember all the fault science that we have had for weeks now, about negotiations. and talking about this and that. it seems like mr. putin is focused on achieving his two objectives. he made it very clear at the start of this war. one is to destroy the ukrainian military. the second is to do what he calls the nazification. -- he might stop attacking ukrainian cities, but he is not doing that yet. >> now chris, we are getting all of this information about what's happening on the battlefield from ukrainian officials. from our own teams on the ground. what is interesting is people here in russia are getting very little information about this war which has been launched in
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their name. there is very little coming out of the russian government. there is very little on russian state television about the ebb and floor of the battlefield. one possible explanation for that, is this has been sold to the russian people initially, as an operation to protect russian speakers in the east of ukraine. but it has turned into a multi pronged invasion across the entire country. and there may be some reluctance on the part of the russian government to acknowledge the scale of this invasion and the direction that it is going and. one enormous piece of information that is being held back from the russian people, how many russian service members have been killed in the fighting so far? there are a lot of wary families in this country, who have sons, brothers, fathers, on the front line. and right now they do not know how many russians have been
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killed in vladimir putin's war. chris? thank you for that, i want to go to abc's josh who is in brussels. a lot of attention is being paid. the u.s. allies are agreeing on the new punishment on russian banks and elsewhere. help us understand the scope of these new sanctions and how they are intended to not brush off the financial system. >> as the u.s. and europe tried to put the financial squeeze on russia in response to the invasion of ukraine, they have been warning that president putin and the kremlin connected wealthy elites have spent years trying to make russia's economy sanctioned proof. trying to make it so that they can be resilient. and not feel the effects of the west tried to crack down. so the new steps that the u.s. and europe are announcing together, a really trying to make sure that there is nowhere that putin, and those close them, have to run to hide from
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sanctions. being imposed. not only in keeping the biggest banks in russia off of this critical international messaging system that they need to be able to transfer money overseas, but also trying to limit their ability to use russia's central bank reserves to prop up the currency. to make sure that the ruble doesn't go into freefall as the west crackdown. the white house also saying that they are going to be hunting for the assets. including the jets, and mansions belonging to the kremlin connected oligarchs in russia. try to make sure they feel the pressure as well. all of this as the diplomatic and political isolation of russia has only been growing with protests breaking out all over the world. in tel aviv, in the russian city obtain petersburg, outside the white house in washington d.c., even in australia. and right here in brussels we have been seeing a number of
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protesters who are very adamant that they want to see nato, which is braced right here in brussels, impose a nose fly zone over ukraine. chris? >> josh for us. thank you for that. now i want to talk about the dramatic overnight military developments. so let's bring in the korean naval officer with experience in counter-terrorism and national security. we spoke last week, you are in ukraine at the time. you would spend weeks there. you had driven around the country. you have a profound and very recent understanding of not just the geography, but the motivation on both sides. talk about where we are right now as you see the fight. >> the fight is still in the beginning phases. and i think the people should not believe that you we are going to see a rapid collapse of the ukraine, or the ukrainian army, anytime soon. no matter what the russians throughout them. you had -- on in the last hour, and he had
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a very good assessment of the country of the russians. it's the bifurcate the country. breakthrough in the south, breakthrough in the north, take the capital of kyiv, then drive south by the ukrainian army that's in the east, near the river. that's all possible. but, the one thing that i think that the russians have completely underestimated, and u.s. intelligence, because i've seen some assessments. that says that kyiv should've already have fallen. what we have seen is that the two incursions into kyiv, that we have seen in the last four days, have been really probes. by the more professional troops. the special forces and the airborne forces. and each one of those was attacked and ruthlessly wiped out. and they are going to be ruthlessly wiped out. assuming the size of chicago, with high rises everywhere, on main roads. obviates in times, when the --
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and guns firing in every direction. kyiv has the capacity to survive for very long time. or much longer than people think. now, the russians are bringing that heavy armor down. but they are very slow, because they don't have full, the fuel supplies are being attacked. their ambush is going on everywhere. there was a territorial guard ambush. and kyiv, north of kyiv near chernobyl, the other day. a place that i've been. and the local coast guard just ambushing them everywhere. how long can they sustain? that that is the question. >> well i want to ask the control room to keep that map up. most people don't have the memory of where everything is in ukraine. you see kyiv in the central, northern part of the country there. and i want to dive a little bit deeper, malcolm, on what you just said. this resistance has surprised a lot of people. we just heard, i'm sure you are watching.
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this woman who says i want to fight! i'm not afraid to fight! i will shoot! so you have ukrainian forces, you also have ukrainian citizens who are willing to go on the attack. but even if they are able to expand how long row difficult it is for russia to invade, or to take control. what does that mean in the big picture? i just -- in other words delaying the inevitable. you know, what's the old saying. it's not about the size of the dog. it's about the size of the fight in the dog. i agree. in the army, and i can tell you the commander of the donbas was asked this question about three weeks ago. what do you gonna do if the russians invade from the north? invade from the south? and his -- was not particularly eloquent but it was brutally honest. he said, i don't care where they attack from! i'm in a fight! this country has got a lot of fighting them.
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and i don't even think there is a possibility. russia can occupy the cities. it can subjugate this country. they do not have enough manpower. even if russia were to mobilize 1 million man in the reserve, and come in there. you would not be able to subjugate this place. i have been in countries, i have been in wars from lebanon all the way to iraq and afghanistan. each one of the major failures, iraq and afghanistan, where because the people did not want you there. and they gave support to the enemy. the enemy can move freely around. we can own the crossroads, that does not mean that you're going to survive the night at the crossroad. and ukraine is one of those crunch freeze where i jokingly once referred to the ukrainian people as essentially becoming the white taliban. that is not an exaggeration.
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they are gonna take the cities. they won't take the whole country. and they won't be able to subjugate these people. >> yeah, i wonder, some of the things that may seem like, at least from the military strategic long point standpoint being not game-changers, but i mean key accumulative to the fact and the well of people that you have just talked about. the men who are all saying behind with her fights. the women who are choosing to stay. women my age, young women. people who have never held a gun before are walking around with ak-47s. this is something you and i talked about when we first spoke for five days ago when you are still in ukraine. and that was still about a home field in vantage. we saw ukrainians taking down signs, we're not even gonna give even that to know exactly where they are. and the idea that they know their cities, they know their countryside. they know, strategically enough,
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to enforce an advantage. cumulatively, what is all that mean? >> i am one of the few analysts, maybe because like i said, i spent a month there studying the russian forces the invasion routes. with the ukrainian army, as commanders. who are in the fight. and just with the ukrainian people. i am one of the few analysts that think that they can beat the russians. i really do think that. yeah, i do. because this! >> what is that look like malcolm? what does it look like? >> it would look like -- people are evaluating that if russian tanks come into kyiv, that that is a victory. it is not! anyone who is any ben in an army carrier in a foreign city, with the foreign powers blowing you up daily with ieds. it does not mean victory, it means occupation. it surviving that occupation
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that is really important. we're also fire hearing that the russians are highly and motivated. the russian, troops that are airborne and the special forces who are the front ends of these attacks. are really making the college try. and they're trying, you know, unique operations. like landing in air bases all over the country. they are almost routinely being wiped out. and when i say wiped out, i mean eliminated. to the last man. so, you know, we are not seeing the main force effort. yes, you have tanks coming in from the northeast, trying to get to the river to cut off some of these cities to the northeast of kyiv. yes, you might be able to get the four of the five major cities. but that does not mean you have one! it means you are in ukraine. and at that point, it's the old saying that the marine said. from korea, when surrounded.
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that just means i can direct the attack them from any direction now. >> you said you are on the ground for a month. you developed a lot of sources there. you are talking to people. what are you hearing from them about, then, what worries them? you talked about of best-case scenario potentially now. what's right in this moment is their biggest concern? what is the biggest challenge they are facing? >> well, right now, let's start with city of kyiv. the city of kyiv, what they are facing is uncertainty. that is because, unlike most modern wars, let's look at the american assault on baghdad in 2013. our armies, rapidly and steadily increased where you could almost go out in sea them in parade, fighting major combat forces. that is not happening here. so, you have these little flare-ups in kyiv. it's indirect fire, artillery
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that you see hitting the city at night. or airstrikes, or cruise missiles. well, those are unnerving. it's the expectation of having to be in a major urban fight. that these people are a little fever of. because this is not what they were doing a week ago. i was go to lunch with a family of five. having pizza week ago, and watching kids go on school trips. and now, they are in a fight literally, for their lives. but the men in the women there? i am telling you. they are fierce! i didn't even realize until this attack started. they are not joking about everyone shoot out the windows, or throw molotov cocktails. yes, the russians can bring in heavy armored force. yes, they can bring in infantry and occupy. but again, they have to pull a four hour or two hour shift and then get out of there alive. and i don't think many of them
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are gonna get out of there alive, before the russians can bring out enough force that can completely occupy the cities. the ukrainian army could break down, it probably will break down and give up large pieces of territory. but when you have three and six men with anti tank weapons, and hunter teams blowing up all of your logistics. destroying your tanks. letting you get to that check point, then killing you all in the night at the checkpoint. it is very very hard. russia is not the united states. okay? they do not have the guts of our armed forces to take these people on. that was our advantage. but we still last in afghanistan. and it took over for us to have to turn over to the afghanis to ruthlessly beat isis. we are not gonna be able to use the air power the way they want to. they already have literally
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sharpening knives for the nighttime patrols. because the russians already bombarding cities. >> and that is the military reality, the stakes, i was just struck by one of the pictures we just saw. two little boys taking some candy, walking hand in hand to a checkpoint. had to leave their homes, going to who knows where. thank you malcolm, yeah quick! >> in a months time, those two little boys walking and hands and taking candy, can be laying down that nation wire for ieds. >> malcolm, thank you, we appreciate all of your time. and your expertise. coming up next, war and words! americans foreign commander in chief, again, praising president putin. what he has to say about president biden, and could it help russia with this propaganda? and could i help russia with thi
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the stage at cpac last night, slamming the biden administration predictably. condemning the attack on ukraine, but defending his relationship with vladimir putin while he was in office. nbc's von is there. hi ivan. >> chris, there is a force here with president trump. after vladimir putin invaded ukraine temporarily over the past few days. it's just this week in which president trump referred to those entering as peacekeepers. and savvy. but the images that we have all borne witness to is undeniable. and that is where our eyes and ears are being open into what the former president would say. he did call presidential inslee brave, but when it came to nato, and the united states response, i just wanna let you hear from the program president himself. >> yesterday, reporters asked me if president putin is smart.
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i said, of course he is smart. putin said that they are going to sanction me, they sanction me within the last 25 years. you mean i could take over our country and are gonna sanction me? it's not that putin is smart, it's that our leaders are dumb. >> repeatedly, chris, president trump used the word weakness to describe the biden administration and nato's response. he said, if he were still in office, this incursion would not have happened. of course, this is the former president who had a warmer relationship, if you shall, with putin. the art and cover it up for the 2016 memphis -- but also, he held up nearly $400 million in ukraine military aid back in 2019. that is where this president here, as well as former secretary mike pompeo, who came
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out in push back against the invasion yesterday. here at cpac. there is a republican party now, that is right with the reality, that putin, despite this countries, and the globe's best interest, has you invaded ukraine. >> von hill, thank you for that. joining me now joe ruble president of the washington strategy group, and -- of the secretary of state of the obama administration. i want to hear what you think about donald trump. we were speaking about russia, and the ongoing disinformation campaign by russia state media. russia state media is not going to play donald trump -- saying that praising -- they're gonna play him saying that putin is smart and the american administration is damn. they are going to continue to play what they see far-right media in this country is saying, again praising putin.
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does it matter, jewel? >> chris, it is great to be with you. it absolutely matters. this is the definition of getting aid and comfort to the enemy. this is exactly why vladimir putin misses trump so much. because he knew in donald trump, he had a pliable person sitting in the oval office. he knew and donald trump he had a president from the united states, welling to withhold defensive military equipment, in this case, back in 2018, 2019 from ukraine, in order to steal the upcoming election. donald trump's track record on vladimir putin is an embarrassment for the country. if donald trump was still in the white house, nato would be in disarray. and vladimir putin would be going right through the heart of europe. there is no doubt in my mind, or anybody in the national securities mind, that if donald trump or president, he would be saying exactly what he is saying now. and that would be facilitating this reckless, vile, invasion
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of ukraine. >> on the other hand, presidents all in ski has defied, where a lot of people's low or concerned expectations, he has really rallied the ukrainian people. and just recently, john, he put out another numerous surge. this one was from yesterday. but there is another new message. i don't know if we've gotten it from yesterday. but we do have a translation of it. i want to get on this some of the critical parts that he said to the ukrainian people today. he said russia lied that they would not touch the civilian population. but from the first hours of the invasion, russian troops were beating the civilian infrastructure. kindergartens, houses, everything is under attack every day. and he went on to say, we have to call a spade a spade. russia's criminal actions against ukraine our side of chad aside. the u.s. secretary general, russia is on the path to the
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evil. the world must come to provide russia -- deprive russia of the right to vote in the un security council. your observations jaw? >> first and foremost, my art goes out to the ukrainian people for this unnecessary, unprovoked conflict. attack against the population, that we have ever seen in europe. certainly in my lifetime, since world war ii. this is uncharitable. president zelenskyy is a truth teller. he has the guts to go to munich, and got to the european countries and say. time to wake up! our countries were woken, now the eyes are wide open. president zelenskyy is shining a light on these crimes. and to his point about the action, he and his allies, his government officials around the world, are calling on diplomatic isolation of russia.
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and that is happening. we are seeing the financial isolation of russia right now. we are seeing sanctions accelerating. we are seeing europe banking sessions of -- the swift network as an example. we are seeing germany now selling european equipment into ukraine. it is accelerating. it is moving faster. so diplomatic isolation of russia. russian diplomats around the world being booed in the streets. all a guard speaking blocked from fighting their airplanes. being concerned about their ships, and they're not, and all of their fancy expenses on the backs of the russian people. all of that is moving faster and faster right now. >> it is interesting to watch with this has done to nato. and in fact, president biden just gave a new interview where he said, in fact, that president putin has done the opposite of what he hope to accomplish.
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can we play just a little of that? >> my goal from the very beginning. was to make sure that i kept all of nato and europe on the same page. it's the one thing i thought that putin thought he could do. split nato. create a great aperture for him to walk through. and that has not happened, if you noticed. it's been complete unity. and russia will pay a serious price for the short term and long term. >> what will that price be, is a question a lot of people continue to have. as we continue to see ukrainians going across borders, running from their homes, taking up arms in the death toll mounting? >> chris, i'm glad you brought this up. because unity matters. it's not just a spiritual concept, or a partnership. there are practical implications for it. what it means now, is that
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russian banks are cut off. not just from the united states, but from europe. the assets are frozen. we heard from josh earlier that they were planning for years to try and prevent impacts of sanctions from the u.s.. and it moves those reserves out as well. they move them and now they're being sanctioned from europe because of this unity. what it means is that collective action, an economic punishment, and diplomatic isolation. -- so, when this devastating conflict -- as they continues, when humans, civilians, children are fleeing. they know, they will now that there are countries that support them. there will be had monetary and surges systems nearby. and that will be because of unity. i have to say, the difference here between biden and trump is startling. if donald trump was running the states right now, there would be no nato. there would be panic in nato
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and across europe. there would be a desperate sense of inability to confront this evil, this vile. that does not mean that the we have a simple solution tomorrow to turn this all off, no. but that sense of panic is not there. that sense of desperation is not there. where is there is a sense of unity, providence, and strategy and that is the critical difference between these two presidents. >> john thank you, thank you for talking us tonight. and the numbers are growing, more than 150,000 ukrainians fleeing their homeland. and wondering if they will ever be able to return. we'll take you to one crossing where ukrainians are seeking refuge from the insanity of the new reality. refuge from the sainnity of th new reality.
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fighting goes into its fourth day. just hours ago, russian vehicles broke into kyiv. that is the country second merger city. ukraine officials sharing this video of fire and smoke from an oil pipeline there, claiming it was well enough by russian forces. ukrainian president zelenskyy called last night brutal. and accused forces of attacking civilian areas where there is no military infrastructure. the leader, rejecting the russian talks for belarus today, because they say was complicit in the invasion. they wanted another location, perhaps poland. meantime, ukrainians are fleeing the nation that they called home. they are saying now more than 200,000 refugees have crossed the border into neighboring countries. that is a larger estimate than we had just a short while ago. allison is in belarus, poland. alison, where refugees have
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been freeing -- other people calling from other parts of poland, putting signs saying that they are taking the city. they seem to be organized in a ragtag effort. but tell us about people who are streaming over the border, the emotions are seeing, the people you're talking to. >> we just watched another bus come through here, and many mothers, many children loading off. a lot of people have signs. this woman has a sign here of a name of someone she is coming to pick up. oftentimes, you see people holding these paper that you get out of home from a name written on. it's a friend of a friend, or strangers they're trying to pick up to get them to a safe place. or it will say a city and a number next to it. where they can drive someone, and how many open seats they have. you look at all of this, all of the food, diapers, wipes,
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water. all of this are items that have been brought by, as you said, ordinary citizens. people who live in these border towns in poland. they just decided to work together and bring this out here. to try and help. we spoke to two people who are here, offering rights to anybody who needed that. when we asked why they were here, they said because they felt like it could be than. listen. >> when you talk to people coming, i saw you guys going to see a family in the red. where do they say to you? >> [inaudible] we will take anybody! anybody we will help! >> what do you want the world to know about what is happening here? >> that we need help! there is no way of saying that it is different.
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where next! >> this is one of eight designated checkpoints agung the polish ukrainian border where people can come and make their way of cross. this one is a little different from some of the others, because they only allowed vehicle traffic to come through. the others allowed vehicle and for traffic. the deputy minister of internal affairs here in poland, he says at least 100,000 people have come from ukraine into poland. but chris, talking to people here on the ground, that number seems like it is probably a lot lower than what it is today. because cards that aren't even spoken to hear, they said yesterday, about 70,000 people came through this checkpoint alone. again, this is one of eight. and this is the northernmost checkpoints. it is not as close as some other acts are to kyiv. so others are even busier than what we are seeing here. the united nations has warned that if the situation in ukraine continues to escalate,
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that there could be something like 4 million people leaving their homes, seeking shelter. there is one person, chris, that we met here. she has been waiting for two days to try and pick up children of an acquaintance. their father sending them here, so he can go back to fight. chris? >> wow. thank you alison barbara for your reporting at the checkpoints. and joining me now elena, culture of the transatlantic half force of ukraine, and a fellow at the german marshall front. joy -- in suburban areas outside of kyiv, tell us about what you're seeing, what you're hearing, and maybe what you're talking to people around the culture -- as we're able to assassinate? >> good morning, thank you for having me. i -- most of the previous days there bomb shelters in kyiv. ukraine remains under invasion
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by russia from different directions. and it is happening from the air, and from the ground. heavy shelling and battles are taking place across the country. including in kyiv, which is reportedly, the -- >> so we have obviously lost our connection. let's take a quick break, hopefully on the other side will talk to elena. we'll be right back after this. id will talk to elena will talk to elena we'l a quality insurance company that's been saving people money for nearly 60 years. for a great low rate, and nearly 60 years of quality coverage, go with the general.
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fighting that is going on. look, for at least the last year, you have warned of russian aggression, you have called on the international community to provide both military and non military assistance to ukraine. as you look at the efforts now being made, including the new sanctions that have been put into place, what is your assessment of the help ukraine has been getting from the international community? what more is needed? >> the offices were shelved by the russian forces. we hoped that this would be a turning point, with hope that this will be the moment for the west to finally see putin for what he is, and to strengthen the sanctions. there are promising signs of
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the disconnection. we saw that a number of countries close a site for russia and introduced a no fly zone over ukraine to limit and minimize civilian losses. but today, we will get to the news that actually this cited to not act completely with russia, and sanctions remain inadequately week. today they are accelerating, but this is happening too slow, and the situation on the ground is developing in the wrong direction so rapidly, that the sanctions really have to doctrine up and to be much stronger. the west has to isolate russia, economically, financially, in every way possible. russia is a terrorist state, there is no way around it. they have to be disconnected it completely, these piano fly zone over ukraine. an assets freeze for russian oligarchs in government, travel
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bans, media, the russian media should not have the right to broadcast in western countries, the state owned media. this is what we need right now. it needs to be introduced in a number of hours, not days, we do not have that much time. ukraine is getting a strong response to the russian invasion, despite the difference in capacities. but we need your help. and the number of cities across ukraine remain under russian control. they remain occupied, we do not know how long we can hold this ground without western support, without weapons, without sanctions, everything i mentioned. >> olena prokopenko, thank you so much for taking the time to talk to us, our thoughts are with you and your family at this time. also, we wanted to show you, a note of defiance on the sunday front pages in london. the observer, featuring, there you see a small ukrainian child in an underground shelter, accompanied by the headline,
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the world shuns vladimir putin, pariah putin. lion hearts was the headline on the sunday express, showing to ukrainian troops. the sunday mirror uses the same photo with the headline, the fight is here. and on the daily score star, a photo of the defiant ukrainian president zelenskyy in kyiv, with the headline, we will not run and hide. russia's invasion of ukraine and the impact that it is already having on or wallet, after this short break. ready having on or wallet, after this short break
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>> as president biden looks to cripple russia with damaging sanctions, the conflict in ukraine has roiled global markets, and it's threatened to continue to drive up gas and food prices here at home, even more. oil prices hit more than $100 a barrel thursday, that's the first time that has happened since 2014. although they have since come down. we will, markets rebounded friday with the dow investor
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leveraged gaining 800 points. that is its biggest day of gain in more than a year, but inflation remains high. talk us through this, the potential economic repercussions, we can do business reporter soviet marcellus. what should americans know right now? >> well, chris, inflation will likely get a lot worse as a result of the russian invasion of ukraine. we've already been dealing with inflation at its highest levels since the 19 80s. americans are already, many of them, stretched super thin, because the price of so many goods is so high. anything from chicken, beef, groceries, gas, buying a used or new car, items for your home. this will likely exacerbate that. we also saw energy markets really react once russia invaded ukraine. we saw the price of oil surpass $100 a barrel. it has since retreated from there, but is still within that vicinity. and president biden has said he
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will work to limit the impact that americans feel from gas prices at the pump. >> so, let's talk about $100 a barrel, you know or that translates to for the average american, nationwide, an average gallon now costs $3.52, it was just $2.60 last year. we have heard reports if you go over $4. folks in california, bracing for potentially six dollar a gallon gas. russia as you know, the third largest provider of oil to the u.s., ahead of saudi arabia. first of all, are those legitimate concerns, is there anything president biden can do legitimately, what tools does he have on hand to make sure that does not become the worst case scenario? >> yes, the concerns are absolutely legitimate. so, or president biden and the white house, where they've been doing with the administration, is working with other countries to strategically coordinate the release of additional oil
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reserves. so that the energy market is not quite so hard, and oil prices are not quite so high. but it is important to recognize that the market is very sensitive to any development happening in ukraine. so, while these official leaders are trying to contain those prices, they could still go up depending on developments on the ground in europe. >> let's talk about the overall markets, what we saw, the dow is not for the faint of heart. huge drop on thursday, and then a rebound on friday, as we said, climbing 800 points on its best day since late 2020. basically, the advice or the guidance for most is just buckle up, hold on tight? this is what we will be seeing, we will see this rollercoaster, as we react to whatever happens in ukraine? >> yes, it is a very sentiment driven market right now. investors are getting very close, paying close attention to any new development on the
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ground with russians, the invasion of ukraine. in terms of what's happening with the markets, we can expect it to continue to be a rollercoaster ride. and investors, as they assess the situation. many investors in the u.s. are already concerned with the fed tightening monetary policy. that was already a concern. and now, it has been added, mean geo political turmoil, to that makes. so you can definitely expect, chris, it looked into new to be a rocky road in markets. >> sibile, thank you so much. on a very early morning over here, but we do appreciate your time and your expertise. that is going to do it for this hour of msnbc reports. i am chris jansing. up next, lindsey reiser will continue the coverage. thoughts, breaking news in the early morning hours in ukraine, right after this. rning hours in ukraine rning hours in ukraine right afte start here. walgreens makes it easy to stay protected wherever you go. schedule your free covid-19 booster today.
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>> breaking right now on msnbc. a ukrainian official says russian forces have moved into kharkiv, the country's second largest city. this, just hours after this pipeline explosion, which ukraine blamed on russian troops. ukraine president volodymyr zelenskyy rejecting the kremlin's offered to hold talks in belarus, saying that they are complicit in the russian invasion. but he is open to negotiations in another location. this all as vladimir putin praises his special forces in a new speech. millions of ukrainians are faced with brutal decisions as many bear down to protect their
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homeland. and this interview on facebook, shot by msnbc, one man tries to stop russian tanks advances with his own two hands. ended up close look at the devastating reality. look at these young kids, forced to pack everything into their suitcases and flee. while many teens and adults are deciding whether to stay, whether to go, or stay and fight. >> if we have to, we will fight because i am not sure how it could be possible to not fight for this country. >> it is now the fourth day of the invasion. at least 150,000 people have already fled the country. plus, -- >> the problem is not that putin is smart, which of course he is smart, but the real problem is that our leaders are dumb. >> former president donald trump doubles down on his praise for vladimir putin in his sin pack speech last night. president biden is reacting.
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