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weeklong battle against russia's unprovoked invasion. president zelenskyy, today, called on ukrainians to keep up the fight. and told the russians to go home! they will not have come here, they will not have food, they will not have won quite moment. the occupiers were only received one thing from ukrainians, resistance! we are people who in a week, have destroyed the plans of the enemy! ukrainians have put up a much stronger fight than many people thought. telling tv -- this is very hard to protect, which way the war will go. when you think about it, that is a signing statement because ukraine has one of the most powerful countries in the world. >> we are all inspired by what we see from the ukrainian forces, and the ukrainian people. it is hard to predict which way things will go. i am sure that the russians would never have predicted that

they would be in the place that they are in at this point. our focus is to make sure that we do everything possible to provide as much support to the ukrainians, so they can defend themselves. >> but they also warned that russia has a lot of combat power left to use. blast were heard this morning in kyiv's. 82% of forces originally face at the border are inside ukraine. ukrainian delegations, they're meeting for a second time to try to get to some kind of peace talks. but nbc reports that ukrainians are not all that hopeful for his cease-fire. ukrainians are pushing in on kyiv, but they are currently stalled on the outside of the city dealing with shortages of food, and fuel. and although russia's attack is taking longer than expected, it could be a slow making

catastrophe in the making for kyiv. well there are strikes destroying neighborhoods, and infrastructure. russia reports in the city -- of. where things have been seen rolling through the streets. and the second biggest city of kharkiv has been under sustain results for days. officials say that more than 2003 -- have lost their lives. they estimate the death toll is in the hundreds, but it is meant to be really considerably higher. one of the things of russians invasion, it's more than 2% of the country's population in the first week! they are calling it the swiftest exodus of refugees this century. meanwhile, two officials tell nbc that russia has lost at least 6000 troops so far. nbc news cannot independently verify those numbers if they are true, the. it far exceeds the number of

u.s. troops left in iraq in more than a decade of war. this is because it's more than increasingly isolated on the world stage. 141 countries voted to condemn putin's act of aggression. but only five countries, we should know who they are, russia, belarus, north korea, syria, eritrea. they voted in favor. and -- from me pro-ukraine. and cal perry, in lviv, in the western parts. it's great to have all three of you with us. it's let start with you. we've been asking you day in and day out, what their information flow is. what messages are coming out of russia? how is the government handling this? and we also got some insight into the first round of official -- from the russian government. how are the russians on the street, the people that you are talking to, hearing from, how are they handling the new

reality of what is happening in the war, plus these crippling sanctions? >> on the sanctions front, early russians are finding that their economic -- has been turned upside down in the past few days. as the value of the rubble collapses, prices here are skyrocketing from everything from car parts to groceries on the supermarket shelves. we're hearing from young people that they are looking to get out of this country. they don't want to spend the next couple years of their lives, in an economic crater as a result of the sanctions. but getting out of russia is not easy right now. if you go to one of moscow's international airports right now, all you see is a sea of cancellations. fright see europe, flights north america are all called off. in terms of what the russian people are hearing from their government, as you said, they have finally been given a death

toll. 498 russian service members killed in the first week of fighting in ukraine. according to the russian defense ministry. as you said, the real figure is potentially a lot higher. we are not detecting any signs at all that this war has any popular support here in moscow, at least. alexia navalny, has called for people to take to the main squares of cities across russia in the next few days, to protest against the war. and remember, navalny is a russian nationalist. he is not some bleeding heart, human rights guy. but he is saying this roar is leading rusher into disaster. meanwhile, we are seeing an intensified crackdown on the few remaining independent russian maiden out rats. earlier today, a very popular russian radio station which was its time between music, and

news. one of the anchors said they are gonna stop reporting the news, because they are being forced to turn them lies on behest of the kremlin. earlier today, they were decrying the meteor crackdown. saying that there was an unprovoked war on ukraine. in at-home, there was a full assault ads media and the truth. trying to suppress the truth of the brutal invasion, or intensified or. despite the initial narrative going out on russian media. people here are aware that this is not going well on the battlefield. that the sanctions that have been imposed by the western countries have the potential to devastate the russian economy. and as you said, a moment ago, the vote at the un shows ordinary russian just how diplomatically isolated their country's. the bbc is saying that the

traffic to the russian website has tripled over the last few days, and that i think, is an indication that ordinary russians are really trying to get at the truth of this war that has been carried out in their name, by vladimir putin. >> the isolation, the information, economically, even physically when you think about the airspace that is being's restricted in close to washington vessels. -- where you've spoken to people fleeing over the past few days. 1 million people as of this day has crossed out of ukraine. how safe is that city and what are people telling you? >> i think this city is considered safer now. it is a transition points, a place you go to on the way to the next place you want to go to. that might be europe, countries like poland, he romania, moldova, or maybe they go there

and try to find their way into germany, or the czech republic. there has been live shelling. you'll see the city fortified self. because it knows what could be coming. it sees what's happening in kyiv, it sees what's happening to city down south. there is no grocery stores are atms yet, but there are lines at the -- shop. their lines at the secretarial defense. windows are being fortified with sandbags. you have a curfew here. you're seeing people with guns to patrolling the street before there. anyone who looked suspicious? you may be asked to show your paperwork, or your documents. so it's safer now, but there is definitely a sense of work could be coming. and people are really getting ready here. i met with a man who said his family, along towards a tessa, and hopefully towards the moldova border, he staying

right now, he's just making molotov cocktails to help the resistance. >> i know you spoke to the mayor of kharkiv, the second largest city in ukraine, sustaining a lot of shelling there. what did he tell you about the situation in that city and whether or not they anticipate there to be any advancements by the russians into the heart of the city after the heavy bombardment it has sustained? >> i spoke to the mayor yesterday morning. he is said that the situation was pretty grave. the casualty count was expected to go up. i don't think anyone expected for russia to bombard kharkiv of all cities like this. it's a city with a lot of russian speakers. i would say 95% of the city speaks russian first. so especially for the russia narrative that, russian speakers in the ukraine are pressed? this really goes against that. i think people expected russia

to use a little bit more care with its shelling of a city like that. but, even, there is power out around the city. they're trying to get food, and medical supplies to people around the city. but the constant shelling's make that impossible. and it's causing the inaccurate casualty count there. >> yes, they inaccurate information about what is coming out is coming out slowly. well with documenting all those figures. you spent a few days at the border, speaking of figures, as of this night, the united nations have reported at least 1 million refugees have passed ukraine's border into neighboring countries. i know you've been out, speaking to people, trying to get out, getting out. what are things like for people who are making that journey? >> we are hearing just harrowing stories, even talking about kharkiv and the heaviest bombardments there. i'm 600 miles from kharkiv, and

we've seen so many people flee from that city, from that part of the country. and of course from here to there you have to go through the capitol. which is under heavy bombardment. i spoke to a young woman, 25 years old. she spent a few years in the u.s., which is why her anguish was so good. and i told you to tell us a little bit of a story. here's some of her story. >> i left kharkiv two days ago and things got worse. and my house got burned by a barham. and my loved ones died. >> who died? >> my friends. in a basement. they were hiding in the basement. because, right now it is so hard, that they use some new kind of, forbidden bombs. that destroy everything. in a big distance. so it's pretty much done. my whole city is just dust. >> anything else you want to

say? >> please! to cherish! the clear skies! anytime you see skies! cherish every moment for your life! >> that number from the united nations, 1 million folks who have left the country, does not count for the internally displaced people. so you expect that number to rise. and the other things that is happening, males 16 to 60 are not leaving the country. so you see people dropping off their people at the border and some folks are walking, this city as well is now under the strict curfews. obviously, as the sun comes up. people are biting about it. and there are checkpoints. even though we're only 300 miles from the capitol, we're starting to feel that the entire country is that war. >> i'm hearing some reports that foreign students in ukraine, and others, nine

ukrainian residents in ukraine are having a hard time getting out. what have you heard? and whatever officials saying about it? >> so, in talking to people of the train station in lviv, it's something important i wanted to find out. i didn't see speak to anybody who had any issues, but you see a lot of social media showing this issue. when the government has reacted. this is from the foreign ministry. we've established an emergency help line for african, asian, and other students wishing to leave ukraine. african seeking human -- should have equal reactions to this -- where they've been separating people out at times by race. and pushing folks off the train. this is something the government says they are concerned about, that they will look at. but i will say, this government is completely overwhelmed on any number of france. dealing with refugees and

certain pardons that. and they will reach out to the home countries. but it does not make the situation any better. and seeing people fleeing is not better, when you see the altitude, it's even more ugly. >> yes, officials are saying that even unable yells who is leaving the world it should leave. -- isabelle, cal perry, thank you for being with us this evening. the russian encouraging has lasted three days, and several that people have not appreciated. during the state of the union address, knowing that putin had an underestimation of the ukrainian people they badly miscalculated. they thought they could roam in ukraine, and the world would run over. instead, he met with the wrong stretch that he never imagined it or imagined. you met ukrainian people. >> all right, let's bring in former u.s. ambassador to russia msnbc international

affairs analyst michael make fun. ambassador, great to see you again. thank you so much for your time. we are entering the second week of the russian invasion of ukraine. and bc is reporting that putin is increasingly frustrated by the struggle says army's having. what should the world expect from him given his history of intentionally targeting civilians and hospitals? >> well i think he had one strategy in the, beginning shock and awe. bomb a few cities. and he thought that the ukrainian army would run, zelenskyy would be in poland. and he would occupy the cities, especially in the east and put his own governors and and everything would be fine. obviously that did not happen. he is frustrated, you can hear in his voice, the way he talks about the war. so he is pivoting to this other strategy, a strategy we have seen before. in chechnya in 1999, in syria, especially after he is just air force to prop up his dictator ally mr. assad.

that is what it feels like. that it was just heart-wrenching to hear the eyewitness account from kharkiv. kharkiv is a fantastic city, fantastic people. major educational center for the country. the second largest city in ukraine and as you pointed out, as the reporters pointed out most people there speak russian. there are lots of ethnic russians there. putin is killing russians when claiming to liberate ukraine from the neo-nazis. he is doing it through terrorism. i mean, look at what you are showing right now. that is not a military target. i feel that is the next phase we will be talking about in the next several days or weeks. >> what's goes me as we are about to see perhaps a bombing campaign like the one he unleashed on syria. in that event, what does the west do as they watch vladimir putin, a desperate man lose control and unleash the might of the russian military in an

uncontrolled manner, more than what we are seeing? >> well, you know, i'm in touch with lots of people in ukraine. we had 300 people come from ukraine over the last two decades. training programs. so we have a wide network of people there. the number one thing they, say that everyone says, more military assistance, singers and javelins, and no fly zone. -- ukrainian that you had on your program just a few minutes ago. i don't see a scenario under which president biden does a no fly zone in ukraine, i think he has made that very clear. so that means that everyone in the world should provide more military assistance to those who are fighting alone. and i want to be clear about this, i feel very ethically, and morally uncomfortable, because we share ourselves for all our unity. including at the state of the union address, everybody stood up together. it was wonderful to see democrats and republicans. we were all united.

as one of my ukrainian friends that to me on the night the started, we are all united on the sidelines. they are fighting putin alone. and i think people need to understand that, that if you feel as i do, as helpless as i do, as my friends literally tonight are being bombed. i'm worried -- i won't be able to talk to them tomorrow. we should do all that we can to help them fight, if we are not willing to fight ourselves. >> i'm sure you have seen the news, ambassador, from the last hour. a media crackdown inside russia, russia's government is throttling twitter, facebook, instagram platforms and tens of millions of russia citizens rely to access independent information. on top of that, you have an announcement that, you know, one of the more respected independent voices if you will inside russia, is been forced to shut down its managing editor is going to leave the country according to social media posts. is this a sign that putin is

worried about his own people, or that his incursion is backfiring internally? >> absolutely it is a sign. by the, way i was just -- yesterday for a five minute interview and it had 1.5 million views in just a few hours. that is why they are shutting them down, right, that is exactly why they are shutting them down. and remember even before the war began, 2021 was -- will go down in russian history post soviet russian history as the most brutal crackdown year ever in the history of the country. including the arrest of course of the main opposition leader -- that wasn't by accident. putin was preparing for this war, he was cracking down, and now that he has to go further with these measures that you just talked about, obviously that means that he is worried about sentiment inside russia

regarding this war. and again, like i said, i have lots of friends in ukraine, lots of friends and russia to. think about the courage it takes to like a video of me, i could be number one on vladimir putin on deutsch tv, and yet 1.5 million people did that in two hours. that shows that they are fed up, that they do not support this war, and from friends of mine that i have had for 30 years and russia, to people that are very rich in the country, nobody supports this war as far as i can tell except for one guy, vladimir putin. >> and that is why your voice has become one of the most essential once in all of this. thank you so much for joining us. i greatly appreciate what you are doing and saying. much more to come here tonight including breaking news in the january 6th investigation going through a legal filing. the january 6th investigation just released. stay with us, we'll tell you about it. about it

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russian president vladimir putin's regime for the past few years, you might recognize this guy. that is russian foreign minister sergey lavrov, is essentially the russian secretary of state. that is a job that not many people have had, especially since sergei lavrov has been russia's foreign minister for the last 18 years. russia's first ever post soviet minister was a man named andrzej courtier off, he is the guy you see here in the front of this picture. the man behind him is, you may recognize, a young sergei lavrov. last week -- sanctioned officials including lavrov, he tweeted this picture with the caption, lavrov rightfully sanctioned by the u.s. and eu today was my deputy in the 90s, used to have my back, today i would watch my back if he was behind me. joining us now is former russian foreign minister untrue a closer of. mr. -- fdr echelons of power inside of

russia, and based on your experience, do you think that sanctioning top officials and all of dorks will have the desired effect of putting pressure on putin to end this war and reversed course? >> good evening. definitely. but that is one of the most powerful tools which the west has, and understand the -- happened in europe which was reluctant to do exactly that, and great britain. so america is now not ahead of others in this, they need probably to do more, all of them, because not yet every oligarch and not only oligarchs, but -- bureaucrats who are taking

decisions, of course they -- putin but others have to implement, take tactical decisions so to say, and all of them almost all of them have money, have families, have property abroad, including miami where i am now. and new york, and of course london. so, that is very powerful instrument. people, if -- they have equity. >> so what kind of power if any do russian oligarchs have, i think that is the question tonight because, do they have an ability to leverage, or any leverage to get him to change his actions, or does putin have all the leverage? people are really well -- outside of russia or apps lease

the clutter clocks have leverage over him to say you have to stop this. of course, as i said, especially acting government officials. but also the man of money, which we would call -- in russian our low guard's. of course they profit from his policies. and they help in one way or another, to implement those policies. so if we both have the army to implement your orders. there is no offensive. it includes the top man of the military, and it includes the top matter of the security apparatus. so of course it changes. trying to drive a car, if the motor is not working, or slowing down, what does it do? >> that's a really good point to bring up, to bring into that

context. one of the other questions people are wondering is whether or not vladimir putin is a, so-called, rational actor. whether he's capable of making rational decisions, whether he's been isolated too much. whether he knows how to weigh the costs and the benefits of the actions he is taking. do you think he is operating with any kind of strategy? in the right mindset right now? do you think he is a rational actor? >> well, i think the main problem is in saying, sense of -- that he can do anything, and get away with this. and unfortunately, the weak response to his actions during the last ten -- probably eight years of the first aggression against ukraine. that kind of, spoiled him.

so that's number one. number two, he probably has an echo chamber. he starts to believe his own propaganda. and especially to, as long as the west is too weak, and kind of, decadent to act. and the saying to ukrainian people, that there are no ukrainian people, ukrainian full people are fools. converts. all of them. that was proved wrong. and if the west continues to prove it wrong, like they do. and the speech, for instance, and especially the reaction of congress of president biden. the state of the union address. with this overwhelming support, bipartisan support, that is a sobering signal.

i don't think he's mad in the medical sense. >> all right, former russian foreign minister andrej, we greatly appreciated it today. we're going to go live shortly to the ukrainian border where a flood of refugees are going to escape the invasion. but big breaking news from the january six committee. what they say that is new and important about the former presidents role. stay with us. stay with us i may be close to retirement, but i'm as busy as ever. and thanks to voya, i'm confident about my future. voya provides guidance for the right investments. they make me feel like i've got it all under control.

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january six investigation, and it involves this man, a man was trident trump. he's seen here popping up the crowd before the attack on the capitol. they've described eastman as a central pair, in the development of a legal strategy to justify a coup. he wrote to memos for president trump, outlining, what it seems like is, a legal path to for president pence to toss out things that -- trump was repeatedly pressuring pence to follow these plants. to resign the -- and of course, pence as we know, did not bow to the pressure campaign. the january six investigation, naturally, had a lot of questions for john eastman.

but when they subpoenaed him, he pled the fifth. he asserted his rights not to incriminate himself under questioning. politico called it an extraordinary assertion against someone who worked with trump to have the overturn of the way presidential results. -- more importantly his emails from his time working with trump to overturn the election. mr. eastman has been trying to block the election from getting those emails, claiming that he was acting as donald trump's attorney, and therefore his emails are protected by attorney client privilege. here's where things get interesting. tonight, the january six investigation has filed a motion in court, making a case to for what these emails are saying -- and what they are saying is that the attorney client privilege is void, if what's the lawyer and a client is

communicating about, is something illegal and fraudulent. you in your lawyer cannot plan something he evil and then claim attorney client privilege to shield the crime. and now the january six investigation is saying tonight, we believe that donald trump and john eastman were engaged in crimes. let me read you some. this is from the january six investigation. evidence and information available to the committee establishes a good faith belief, that mr. trump and others may have engaged in criminal and or fraudulent acts, and that plaintiffs legal assistance was used in furtherance of those activities. the president sought to use the vice president to manipulate the results in his favor. have these results it's succeeded, the electoral count would have been obstructed, impeded, and fluids, and at the very least, delayed without any

genuine legal justification and bases that the election had been stolen. there is no genuine question that the president and plaintive had intended to -- the select committee also has a good faith basis for concluding that the president, and members of his campaign, engaged in a criminal conspiracy to defraud the united states, by interfering with the election certification process. disseminating the -- and pressuring state officials to alter state election results. and federal officials to result in that effort. the conspirators also obstructed a lawful governmental function by presidents the president -- the apparent objective of these efforts, was to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election. and declared donald trump the winner. in this race, it aims to obstruct and interfere with the proper functioning of the united states government.

again, tonight, let's be clear about this. the january six investigation went to court to say that donald trump's lawyer cannot claim attorney client privilege for his communication, because he, and trump, and others on his campaign, were engaged in crimes! joining us is former eunice attorney for -- barbara mcclain. she published a -- for his claim to pressure mike pence returning over the election. and apparently, the two crimes that she thought may have been committed, are the two crimes that the january six investigation names in this crime tonight. conspiracy to defraud the united states, and obstruction of an official proceeding. thank you for joining us. as the person who kind of, you know, predicted that this might be the statutes that trump violated. what is your reactions here this filing? and how significant is it?

>> i think it is a very significant filing because it is the first time that the committee has said out loud, what the calm crimes may have been. and pull together the evidence of what that crime may have looked like. i think that any prosecutor that looked at that evidence in the way that i did, and the way that the former presidential -- are doing, it really jumps out as fairly obvious potential crimes. of course the detail of the evidence matters here, but one of the things that they do in this filing that i think is so significant. they document all of the evidence that they have. that is beginning to come into focus. that they gather from all of these sources. we know because of public statements, that donald trump was pressuring mike pence to have the election. but i think it's coming in view of the hard part, which is showing that donald trump knew that it was false that he had lost -- that he had won the election. in the document, it lists all of the evidence in the filing.

>> and yes, can you lay that out for us a little bit? the investigation told the court that it has a good reason to think that trump and others have committed federal crimes. explain to us the case that is laid out and you think at this point it is a convincing one? >> i do. for either of these crimes, obstruction of an official proceeding, or conspiracy to for the united states, each has slightly different elements. but i think the key factor that is always been maybe elusive, is proving donald trump's intent. that he knew what he was saying was fraudulent. when he was saying that mike pence should change the outcome of the election, that that was based on a lie. so when he uploaded all these documents, he knew it was false. number one, the cybersecurity chief said so. the -- said so. the director of the office of national intelligence, john ratcliffe, his appointee said so. the justice department told him

repeatedly there was no fraud. he had an internal campaign memo that concluded that there was no fraud. and 61 out of 62 judges of all the court cases filed across the country found that there was no fraud. the one case that the trump campaign one was laid to unrelated affidavits. so trump absolutely knew there was absolutely no fraud here. and one judge said, there is not one scintilla of evidence that there is fraud. so you know what they say about wolf of blindness? you can't turn a blind eye to something that is highly probable is true. if someone says the world's round, you can't say the world is flat in repeated evidence that the world's round. a scientist tell you, and shows you evidence, and you consider that the world is flat. that's a lie. >> yeah, you can't just plead stupidity and ignorance besides

the amount of evidence that is submitted to you. i want to -- because there is a member of the far-right oath keepers who pleaded guilty to's conspiracies -- seditious conspiracy. what does that mean? and how big of a deal is? it >> it's a very big deal. seditious conspiracy is a charge that is used rarely. because it requires not only a use of force to interfere with government authority, but it inquires that is the rat already of the united states. so what they argue there, in that case, the allegation was they were using force to stop the lawful transfer of power. we know what happens in that group of oath keepers, who says no we do not do this. and ultimately, he is cooperating. and this particularly was with roger stone on january 6th -- . his cooperation promises to be fruitful. >> yes, great from the january

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we don't know what to do. that's why we crossed to another country, so we don't know what will be tomorrow. so, we are running. >> so, we are running. that woman is one of the nearly 1 million refugees who have fled to ukraine in the past seven days, while the war rages on. the refugee crisis is quickly becoming what the un refugee crisis -- to become the biggest refugee crisis of the century. and freezing temperatures, and days long journeys, over

500,000 of fled to poland. nearly 120,000 fled to hungry. tens of thousands to via, romanians love aqua, and other eastern european countries. the un refugee agency expects a total of 4 million to leave ukraine in the coming weeks and months. the agency also reports, those fleeing war torn ukraine have waited up to 60 hours in freezing temperatures to cross into poland, with many spending days on the roads, waiting to cross. tomorrow, the eu commission is expected to approve a special rule, that will grant blanket protection for up to three years for all displaced ukrainians, which would pave the way for them to get residents and work permits and eu countries. while that is all encouraging and good news, there are troubling reports about a double standard for refugees, based on race and ethnicity. the 24-year-old nigerian, who fled from western ukraine, told the new york times, while trying to make our way to poland, the guards were letting ukrainians cross, but blocked

foreigners. she told the times, the ukrainian border guards were not letting us through, they were beating people up with sticks. they would slap them, beat them and push them to the end of the queue. it was awful. whenever a black lady which had a pass, they said, our women first. nearly a women -- who have left ukraine, the humanitarian crisis is exploding. un refugee agency, that is the united nations high commissioner for refugees has been ramping up its response to help those displaced by russia's attack on ukraine. the agency has said, the volatile situation and security concerns, as you can imagine, are posing major challenges for their aid workers. joining us live from poland, chris monetary, a senior spokesman for un agency -- mr. melt sir, thank you so much for being with us. i know it's early, i understand that you got to poland a week ago, right when this crisis started unfolding. what is your assessment of the situation on the border, a week

into it? >> this is a terrible situation for many. as you have mentioned, so many people fled ukraine, and we have now passed the 1 million. about half of them went to poland, but people were waiting in freezing cars. women, children, and men mostly stayed behind. people are desperate, of course. they don't know what comes next, and they don't know what will happen to their country. -- but, of course, it's a major crisis right now. >> from the people that you've spoken to, what do they need the most? what is the most urgent need, right now? >> first, everything that has to do with warm clothes, to warm sleeping bags. something like that. the people in poland provide for them, what is more important, is accommodation.

facilities for people to stay for a couple hours, maybe even one or two days. many ukrainians have relatives here, so there are networks, and they found some whether they can stay. but, in the long run, we need more accommodation. the biggest priority, we have talked to so many refugees, we asked them, would you need most, would you want most? the answer is always home. we want to go home. >> you bring up an interesting point, are you worried about the capacity to provide services to the refugees, as these numbers increase, dramatically, day upon day? >> take a look at the number. 1 million people. this is unprecedented in europe. for the last 80 years. not even the invasion of russia and ukraine, not even the bulk in crisis in the 90s produced so many refugees, in such a short time. in less than a week, more than

1 million people -- again, half of them in poland. the solidarity is probably not analysts. the situation deteriorates in ukraine, and more people are fleeing, then, of course, the challenge will be bigger, and we need more capacities, here, and the neighboring countries. >> talk about the importance of solidarity. i have to ask you quickly, have you observed authorities engaging in any discrimination, based on race and ethnicity, and letting people into neighboring countries? >> we have heard from reports, and we have confirmed with authorities, they denied that there's any system behind it. we investigated, we talked to many people, many of them told us they had no problem with entering. other reports, there are problems that they have to stay 12, 24 hours, or even longer.

at least no one was sent back, that's very important. we're very concerned about these reports. >> chris melcher, senior spokesman for the unhcr, thank you so much for being with us. we'll be right back. right back. therabreath, it's a better mouthwash. at walmart, target and other fine stores. one of my favorite supplements is qunol turmeric. turmeric helps with healthy joints and inflammation support. unlike regular turmeric supplements qunol's superior absorption helps me get the full benefits of turmeric. the brand i trust is qunol. that does it for us, on what is

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