this is what vladimir putin has done has united the world in this battle good versus evil. >> it really is remark thashl one man, vladimir putin, has caused all of this misery. he also has made all of the postworld war ii institutions, international institutions, more relevant than they've ever been. thank you so much for watching today. please keep in mind, as you're watching the coverage, you watch this unfolding tragedy that we, the united states, there are some things we can do and some things we can't. a no-fly zone. putting boots on the ground in ukraine. equals world war iii and a possible nuclear holocaust. that does its for thus morning. chris jansing picks up the coverage right now. i'm chris jansing live at msnbc headquarters here in new york city. it is thursday, march 3rd, and as we speak, the violence again in ukraine escalating, and so are the moves against vladimir

putin and his supporters or what's left of them. in just half an hour, secretary of state antony blinken is scheduled to leave for eastern europe, a significant six-day trip to calm fears that the baltics could be in putin's sights next. but right now, russian forces are continuing to ramp up attacks on ukraine's major cities. that includes the two biggest, kyiv and kharkiv. this massive fireball lit up the night sky over the capital, one of several explosionings that hit the city overnight. the mayor says at least 15,000 civilians are now hiding out in the city's subway system, unwilling or unable to get out. one woman who es camed from car kyiv talked about the experience with our own cal perry. >> mentally, we are broken and to be honest, i do have ptsd. i haven't slept for six days. so six days, no sleep. and i haven't -- >> t -- >>

>> her emotions so raw. and you can see why with so many living with so much violence across ukraine. russia has been pounding cities like hers and others like mariupol for days, although both cities remain in ukrainian hands. that may not be the case in a port city in the south where the mayor says russian force have taken control and the ukrainian military has left. but the ukrainian government does claim fighting is still ongoing there. one thing is clear -- the toll is getting worse for both sides. on wednesday, russia confirmed for the first time, by the way, the deaths of nearly 500 of its soldiers along with claiming nearly 3,000 ukrainian troops have been killed. ukraine has not updated its own casualty figure, but they say roughly 9,000 russian soldiers have been killed. if that's true, it would mean russian soldiers have seen twice

as many casualties in seven days than the u.s. suffered in the entire iraq war. right now in geneva the u.n. human rights council gathering to consider an investigation into russian human rights violations in ukraine after 141 countries voted to condemn the russian invasion, a symbolic move but a powerful reflection of growing international condemnation. we're seeing that translate into action. the u.s. department of justice formally announcing its task force to go after the conspicuous wealth of russian oligarchs. forbes cites three sources saying the germans have seized a $600 million megayacht. france reportedly taking in another in the mediterranean. both meant as headline-grabbing pressure tactics against vladimir putin as well as obviously his very wealthy supporters. in fact, we're seeing new signs that indicate the pressure campaign may be having an impact, pushing russia to make a series of moves. for example, this morning a

liberal russian radio station was pulled off the air because of its coverage of the war. the russian education ministry is planning a lesson for school kids trying to convince them that this is the war of liberation. and earlier this week, russian lawmakers floated the idea of 15-year prison sentences for anyone who spreads what they call fake news about the invasion. even as russians continue to protest and thousands of them are willing to get arrested. i want to bring in rick sanchez in moscow, peter baker from "the new york times" who spent several years in moscow covering vladimir putin, hagar chemali worked for the nsc and the treasury department, and retired colonel mark kenzian. so good to have all of you here. peter, as i'm watching these things unfold by themselves, none of what we're seeing from

vladimir putin may individually amount to much, but when you see the action he's taking, the double down on selling his version of the war to the russian people and to try to suppress anybody who doesn't agree with him, does it show outside pressure is getting through? >> well, i think pressure is getting through. i've been thinking, chris, obviously, for all the right reasons we've spent a lot of time thinking about the ukrainian people and the suffering they're undergoing right now. but i'm also sald for russian people, because what's going to happen here is they're going to be cut off from the rest of the world 30 years after the fall of soviet union when they finally became at least somewhat more integrated to the rest of the globe. now a new iron curtain, in effect, is fall across their border. people who used to travel overseas won't be able to because the planes aren't flying. bheem used to have friends in the west will feel nervous about ever talking to them. people at home in russia will

feel scared about voicing their opinion even more than they have in the past because even the slight avenues of open discussion and discourse that were already closing in russia are slamming short. i think it's a very big impact on the russian people. you see these images that you're showing right now, protesters being dragged away, people who went protesters, they can't go and get dollars from atms, use their apple pay to get on the metro. they are going to see jobs disappear as western businesses flee. it will have an enormous impact on everyday russians who had nothing to do with this war and don't want this war. >> will it have an impact on putin? >> well, that's the real question, right. that goes to his state of mind. there's whole debate in washington right now as to whether or not putin has grown more unbalanced in the last few years. if that's the case, what gets into somebody's decision tree if they are not acting as a rational person? but the question then becomes, okay, how about the people around putin?

are they able to do something in one of the yachts you showed being seized is owned by one of the most powerful men in russia, one of putin's closest, you know, allies for many, many years. people like that will be punished and as a result of this not able to have any kind of influence whatsoever. there's an outside small possibility that this leads to, you know, putin's own downfall. this is the kind of things that happens in dictatorship when they stretch too far and they finally alienate even the people who have been their collaboratorings over the years. >> hagar, obviously, there is no doubt about the pressure being put to bear against vutsen, but at the same time, nato is coming under increasing pressure to do more to help ukraine. a lot of experts think the list of options is quickly diminishing, especially with that no-fly zone off the table. i mean, how ham strung are we at this point? is there much more that nato, that the u.s. can do?

>> there are always more things we can do. i can tell you, having been on the other side in the syrian crisis, the defense department is consistently thinking of contingency planning, what are the red lines, what would scenarios look like with military exercises and so on, what would our partnerships look like. the thing that concerns me that i've seen play out in syria in particular, and i don't mean to compare the two, conflicts are completely different, but i have seen what the russian government and military is capable of. they're capable of unimaginable and unspeakable behavior. they're mercenaries associated with a group called the wagner group, a pr military group. they commit atrocities not just in syria, but in congo, sudan, africa in particular. but the thing that concerns me with that is that as if you have putin in a mental state that is not stable as peter mentioned, and he's pushed and he decides

to double down because he can't go back to moscow without a win of some kind, because that would be detrimental to his career, then what does doubling down look like? and could he cause a horrific humanitarian crisis? in that scenario, are we then back to the table discussing with nato possible military options? and so the thing that -- my point here is i just hope we don't wait too long in that debate as we did with syria. >> so, colonel, let's talk about what is happening militarily on the ground right now, what you're seeing, what you're watching. what are the significant moves maybe that you're observing over the last 24 hours or so? >> well, the russian plan for a quick win clearly failed. the ukrainian resistance was much stronger than they expected. the russians have moved into a second phase of bringing up reinforcements, using a lot more firepower.

in the north, the russians are moving on the city, but that congo is going very slowly. that is unfolding much more slowly than people expected. in the northeast, you have kharkiv where there's fighting around the city, a lot of destruction in the city. in the east, you have the donbas, but that seems to be a holding action by the russian, not much happening there. the russians have had their greatest success in the south, moved out of crimea, seem to be moving on odessa in the west and surrounded mariupol in the east. i think we're going to see measure clashes and a lot more violence. >> but what does that tell us as we enter week two, colonel, about what we know is the ultimate goal by vladimir putin and his ability to reach it, which is to take control of ukraine? >> he's not giving up on that goal. he's going for a military victory. ukrainian resistance is much greater than he expected. i think we're in for a long war.

it's extraordinary that the russians have acknowledges do many casualties. that's probably the low side. estimates run 1,000 to 2,000, but that still shows they ooch lost a people and the russians are very sensitive to casualties. >> raf, how much do russians know about what's going on? we have heard reports of phone calls home saying a soldier telling their parents i didn't even know that we were going to go in, i didn't know that we were going to be part of an invasion. but there's this huge disinformation campaign, that old playbook, right? tamp down dissent, start the disinformation. how well is that working? and is 2022 just because of technological advances very different that more russians know more than vladimir putin might like to believe? >> reporter: you said it, chris. everything we're hearing from people on the ground in moscow

indicates this misinformation campaign is not working. we are not detecting any really popular support for this war at all. instead, we're hearing from people who can see with their own eyes that their country's economy is crumbling. they can see they can't get on a plane anywhere. you can't buy an iphone in russia now because apple has stopped selling its products. and we're hearing from people that they see this war as a tremendous unnecessary loss of life on both sides. you mentioned that the russian defense ministry for the first time in eight days of conflict has finally told the russian people how many of its service members have been killed in this war. they're saying 498 dead in the first week of fighting. folks here are skeptical about that number. western officials, ukrainian officials are saying the real toll might be much, much higher than that. and, chris, we are seeing a kremlin that is absolutely determined to stomp out any

alternative to the official narrative. a few independent russian media outlets who are still operating have been banned from referring to what's going on in ukraine as a war, as an invasion, as an attack. as you mentioned, echo moscow, one of the really prominent independent radio station, was taken off the air at the kremlin's orders and has shut itself down. so that is permanent damage to what's left of the independent ecosystem in this country. another popular radio station splits its time 50/50 between music and the news. one of the anchors went on the air yesterday and said we're going to stop doing the news because we refuse to pass on the lies that the kremlin insists we spread to the russian people. chris? >> that is extraordinary. peter, feel free to comment on that. but i also want to ask you about sort of what the white house is thinking in terms of the planning on vladimir putin's part. when you're a government and you are going to make a major move,

whether it's military or otherwise, you sort of put out scenarios, right. if a happens, what's my response? if b happens, what's my response? it seems like vladimir putin didn't have a plan b, and i wonder what the white house intelligence is on that and how or not at all he's keeping anybody else in the loop about what his thinking is. >> well, that's of course the challenge if you're in the white house. if you're sitting in the situation room right now trying to anticipate what vladimir putin might do next is the biggest challenge you have because right now, the west has, as raf just said, imposed severe punishment on russia and its lasting damage, and it may be something that vladimir putin knew was going to happen in advance. i think he factored this into his calculations and decided it was a price he was willing to pay, but is it a price russia is willing to pay? he begins to feel cornered.

the white house right now, what they're concerned about is that these sanctions have been so successful that it might prompt him to lash out in a way that could be very dangerous. he of course is rattling the nuclear sabre. no evidence he's doing anything about that. no equipment has been taken out of storage or anything. but we cannot rule that out. but there are other ways that he could, you know, react in a way that increases or escalates this crisis and drags the west in in a more dangerous way. what if there's an incident at the polish worlder? what if there's a shootdown of a civilian airplane as happened in 2014 when that plane was shot down over ukraine? you can imagine a number of scenarios where this widens beyond ukraine. as you would nlly, you have nato involved and where does that lead? that's the concern in the white house right now. >> that is the concern, hagar, that the secretary of state will have to address when he goes to the region today. talk about how this fits into the big picture and the concerns

that are there, might they influence what actually happens on the ground militarily now or decisions that are made about how nato and the u.s. move forward? >> if one thing, he's been remarkable in the response from the world toward this war. it's how united the majority of the world is against president putin right now. a lot of, that by the way, i don't know if we appreciate how much of it comes from the information campaign the biden administration led from the beginning, right, by declassifying intelligence immediately and putting it out there so that they could step ahead of president putin's propaganda machine. they were able to set the record straight from the beginning and really unifying everybody. i think that's what we'll see with blinken is a stem further with that. what we saw at the united nations, 141 countries voted to condemn russia, this is an institution where countries excel in fecklessness. so to have 141 countries voice

themselves like that speaks volumes. that's the one thing i will say that gives me a measure of hope compared to what i saw in syria. most of my government career was spent undermining dictators. most of those dictators remain in place even with sanctions. the thing that i think differs with russia is how united the world is in this and that the calculation from those sanctions may potentially change things because of how much russia has to lose. >> really i think in history has one man united so much of the world against him in such a short period of time. hagar chemali, raf sanchez, peter baker, colonel, thanes to all of you. coming up, the house committee that is investigating the capitol riot is laying out possible criminal conspiracy charges against donald trump for trying to overturn the 2020 election. odds of any charges being filed straight ahead. and we're back on the ground in eastern europe as the u.n.

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poland along that border. i know you've been talking to ukrainians who have actually managed to get there. what are you hearing? >> reporter: yeah. you listen to u.n. officials, many who have decades of experience dealing with refugee, humanitarian crises and they will say they have never seen an exodus of this many people this quickly, 1 million people fleeing ukraine in just seven days. you look over here and you see what people have come with. they have fled with their pets, whatever little bags they can grab, and for many people here this kind of makeshift almost refugee assistance center is the first place many of them, their pets, themselves have had the chance to have a hot meal in days. this has been donated by local poles, other local aid groups. we've spoken to people here who have spent days traveling from kyiv, traveling sometimes even further, eastern ukraine, to try and get to safety, all of them survivors of horror.

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with any handcrafted burger. only at applebee's breaking news on capitol hill. we just learned moments ago that donald trump's former deputy press secretary, judd deer, he was so on january 6th, is going to testify in person before the january 6th committee today. he was subpoenaed back in january. this is all happening as lawyer frgs the committee are arguing in a new court filing that former president trump was involved in a criminal conspiracy to overturn the 2020 election. it's part of that effort to force trump ally lawyer john eastman to turn over a series of

documents that he claims are protected by attorney/client privilege. joining me capitol hill correspondent, allie vitaly, host of "the talking feds" podcast harry lipman and professor at the university of alabama law school, joyce vance. good to see all of you. joyce, for everybody who witnessed what happened on january 6th and thought this isn't legal, does that development that we're hearing get us anywhere in terms of actually seeing criminal charges? >> so, what this brief suggests is that the committee ultimately will make a referral to the justice department on these charges. there's a conspiracy to defraud united states charge and an obstruction of justice charge. and it's important, chris, to note that this brief is a serious legal endeavor. the lawyers who filed it are not the cracken lawyers. this includes former white house lawyers, former u.s. attorneys,

doug ledder, the lead signatory, ran the civil appeals program at the justice department for many years before he became the top lawyer for the house. so this is well thought out. it's well researched. it's well evidenced. and when this referral makes its way over to the justice department, it won't be something ephemeral or sketchy. it will be an allegation of two specific crimes, at least two that were committed, and a lot of evidence to back that up. the issue here has always been trump's state of mind. for one of the stamp utilities here he has to have acted willfully and that means with a consciousness of wrongdoing. the evidence here is pretty spectacular, dealing more than 20 instances where he should have become aware that he had lost the election and continuing to push with nothing short of criminal. >> so the key question the people who have been watching this closely and frankly are a little bit impatient, harry, is what does it tell us in the big picture? are we actually any closer to

seeing criminal charges here? >> a smidgen. so, everything that joyce says is right. it's important to note this is right now just a brief saying eastman shouldn't be able to stand on attorney/client privilege. it makes three arguments, and the third is because there was a crime fraud here committed by his client, who is, who? donald trump. now, the court doesn't need to accept that. it can take either number one or number two, but it certainly portends an eventual criminal referral. then it goes to doj. an important thing to note, the previous criminal referrals for contempt of congress, congress was the victim there. that matters to doj. here doj will take the position, thank you very much for the everyday, which we maybe already have, and now we will make our independent judgment. the issue is whether this referral will actually pressure

merrick garland and change his independent judgment. that's hard to see. that doesn't mean he's not going there, but the fact he receives with parallel evidence from the january 6th committee will be a big move for him. he'll just make an independent judgment. and by the way, it will be a while. this is just a brief. the referral itself ought to be a few months away. >> so we're always talking about time line, allie. what should we look for going forward? >> reporter: the time line has been the critical metric operating in the background here. the committee knows they're up against the midterm calendar and we are squarely in 2022. it's why, over the course of my conversations with the lawmakers on the committee, we've seen them try to put out the fact that they want to do public hearings. we know that was supposed to happen in the first half of this year. initially we expected it for february or march. now it's looking like it will be the springtime, potentially april or may.

bennie thompson yesterday said he's hoping to wrap up the depositions phase of this by around april 1st, a few weeks from now. when you see people like judd deer going for things issued in january, it gives a sense of where the committee is trying to wrap up loose ends there. we expect in june the committee to publish an interim report of their findings, and after that but before the november elections, we expect them to put out something a little more holistic, not an interim but more of a final report. that punts us all in the next several months being fruitful for the committee. when you look at this filing and see the hundreds of pages, it was very dense, a lot of transcripts, you see who they've talked to -- keith kellogg, mark short, jason miller, people who were close to the former president, some remain close to the former president. it gives you a sense even though there was much hay made, rightfully so, of the people stone walling the committee, they have clearly gotten people

to comply and to give them what they need to tell this narrative. now, on the eastman front of this, i do want to point out that while we're talking about this filing that effectively pushes to compel eastman to turn over documents, which he's saying are attorney client privilege, but as joyce and harry have plaid out pertain to a crime fraud exemption sh which says effectively you can't explicitly seek out a lawyer to do crime, the committee is arguing that's the intention that trump brought to his interactions with eastman. eastman's lawyer, for his part, is saying, and this is a quote, "like all attorneys, dr. john eastman has a responsibility to protect client center fielded even at great personal risk and expense. the select committee has responded to dr.'sman's efforts to discharge this responsibility by accusing him of criminal activity." that's where we stand. >> ali, harry, joyce, thank you. stim ahead, president biden trying to hit the reset button on everything from the economy

to this covid response. is this about his agenda, the midterms or a little bit of both?

janet yellen in chicago, she rarely makes a trip with any political undertones. the president will be taking his message to texas on tuesday but his first stop was the wisconsin-minnesota border yesterday zeroing in on the american rescue plan and the bipartisan infrastructure law. >> there are 979 bridges in wisconsin, 661 bridges in minnesota in poor condition along with nearly 7,000 miles of highway between the two states that need repair. now, after years of talking about infrastructure, we're

finally getting it done. >> the biden administration also rolling out a new covid strategy, kind of a guide to a new normal. the plan includes protecting against and treating covid, preparing for new variant, preventing shutdowns, continuing to vaccinate the world. but there's also, and this is getting a lot of attention, the new test to treat initiative. so, if you test positive, a lot of pharmacies and health senters across the country, will be able to give you a treatment pill on the spot. joining us now, nbc news senior white house correspondent kelly o'donnell, eugene daniels is politico's author, dr. gupta is a pulmonologist and global health policy expert. kelly, talk about the president's strategy of hitting the road until the midterms. what's the goal? >> reporter: it is certainly par tradition to get out there and take some of the items the president will be talking about trying to sell and to bring it closer to the american people and to do it in places that will be key contested areas in the

midterms. we know democrats historically and practically are facing some held winds, serious headwinds based on polling in the midterm elections. it's complicated by the fact that the president is also dealing with ukraine, has been dealing with covid. so he has not traveled as much as presidents typically do. but the president wants to get out there more. white house officials tell us they intend to have a more vigorous travel schedule for him, and he's also trying to react paj, refresh, dust off, maybe give a new face to some of the policies that were a part of the build back better agenda. now in a new form to build a better america and to tout the very successful infrastructure law that was passed in a bipartisan fashion and is rolling out where states will be seeing the practical impact. it takes time to build bridges and roads, but to try to tout those specific policies coming to life in different communities around the country.

so getting on the road to sell what he's done and to try to sell what he hopes to do. chris? >> skeptic, eugene might say the president going to wisconsin isn't going to change the minds of joe manchin and kyrsten sinema. but if it helps to boost his approval ratings talking to americans, does that potentially give him more sway? if his numbers go up, support for the programs go up, does that help democratic candidates running in the fall? >> you would think so, right. we did see a lot of individual aspects of what used to be the build back better agenda and now is i think he said build better for america on tuesday. doesn't roll off the tongue as the other but what you did see was the individual aspects were very popular, right, so we did see that. people wanted the child tax credit. people wanted free preschool. we did see that people wanted better health care and cheaper prices. but that did not help.

so it's hard to know, but i will say if the poll numbers go up, as you see people saying, you know, maybe this president is doing an okay job, if that happens, if this administration is able to sell what they've done to the american people in a better way, that might help the democrats going into the midterms, right. because we all know, and this is trite to say at that point, that the midterms are a referendum on the current president. so if the current president is very popular, it's possible that maybe it won't be at least a bloodbath, which i think is something that the administration doesn't want to see, because they know the historical headwinds as much as we do. and they -- senior adviser to the president told me weeks ago that they do need to do a better job of selling their story, he said, to the american people, telling them what they've done. but you also have to be careful, and they know this, to not seem out of touch with what the american people are actually feeling. that's why you're seeing him

talk about his domestic agenda as a way to lower prices and fight inflation instead of changing america. that's why you're seeing him, when he's talking about ukraine, being careful to talk about how much he is creating cohesion around the world. so, those are the things we'll continue to see. >> it was interesting to watch him, vin, at the state of the union because he's talked about this new normal, right, and got this huge applause saying kids need to be in school, on the other hand, making it clear we haven't washed our hands of this. what do you make of the new covid strategy coming from the white house? >> chris, good morning. thanks for having me. this early test and treat paradigm is extremely exciting for a doc like myself because this is feeling the white space and how we deliver care to americans. historically, brick-and-mortar health care systems struggle with giving you a pill after you tested positive for say covid-19 or even in the case of influenza with tamiflu. this is something we struggle with, narrowing the window

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breaking overnight, a bipartisan group of attorneys general in eight states have opened an investigation into tiktok, the popular social media app that touts 1 billion users each month. they're trying to determine if the app's design and operation negatively impacts kids and teens' physical and mental health. joining me now is nbc's ken dilanian. feels like we've heard this story before, similar to one we saw against meta which includes, of course, facebook. tell us what exactly this is and what it means. >> it's another reminder for parents to be mindful of how social media is affecting their children. as a parent of two kids who are

on tiktok almost every day, i know from personal experience it's hard to keep track of what they are watching and how the app is affecting them. these state ags tend to look into whether tiktok's design and promotion teak neeks are affecting the fid cal and mental health of children and whether they violated consumer protection laws. this is the late northwest a push to protect children online. president biden in his state of the union address called for a ban on targeting advertising to children on social media. tiktok said in a statement tiktok cares about building an experience to help protect and support the well-being of our community and appreciates that the state attorneys general are focusing on the safety of younger users, chris. >> these companies always care deeply. unlike meta, tiktok is owned by a chinese company, sfliet does that potentially affect what the attorneys general what to do? does it place limits on them? >> that's a great question.

back in 2020, if you'll recall, tiktok agreed to split off a u.s. subsidiary and host with oracle. the chinese parent company still has a say in how the app works. despite the chinese ownership, the company still has to comply with u.s. laws and they could force changes in how the app provides content to users. companies respond to public pressure without legal action. facebook's instagram app delayed a rollout for a service targeting kids under 13 after a whistle-blower released documents showing instagram was harmful to teenagers. >> ken dilanian, thank you for that. still ahead, it's a story you absolutely have to stay tuned to hear. it's about an american family trying to escape ukraine in the middle of war with that newborn baby. inside their harrowing journey next.

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this. what can you tell us? >> thankfully that family is now safe, out of ukraine. there are many more children including orphans that are stuck in the war zone. that american family able to breathe a little bit easier now after a scary journey. >> say here i am. >> this morning, 5 dld charlotte, mom and dad all safe in slovakia after a remarkable escape from ukraine. >> we're safe now. >> amy and mike traveled from florida to kyiv for their daughter's birth by surrogate days before russia's attack. >> nobody was very concerned about it. >> reporter: early thursday in ukraine's capitol, the couple jolted from bed. >> the windows were rattling. all their plans changed. war had arrived before their

baby girl. their surrogate went into labor friday in the bomb shelter. >> was there a point between saturday and thursday where you thought we may need to go without her? >> no. that was never an option. >> reporter: then saturday their bibby girl arrived at last. about an hour after birth, the family forced to flee. >> every turn of this story, just angels that were there and supported us. i would never have imagined. >> reporter: one of the heroes along the way, marina, a ukrainian woman who is now the name sick for little charlotte marina. >> she wouldn't be here if it wasn't for her. >> reporter: other children are still in peril. >> there are tens of thousands of children orphanages in ukraine. >> reporter: abundance international says this video shows ukrainian orphans in a bomb shelter. >> an orphanage with infants to 4-year-olds, a third are disabled, down syndrome or have special medical needs.

it makes it very difficult to try to move them. >> reporter: one pittsburgh man telling nbc affiliate wpxi he and a priest rescued 22 orphans from kyiv. >> the end game would really be get the kids to america. >> reporter: children still a beautiful symbol of love in an uncertain world. charlotte marina's mom giving me more good news this morning. she texted me saying the little girl got a clean bill of health from a doctor. the family has also been helping get another american family's newborn girl out of ukraine. that girl i'm told also healthy, also safe on top of all of those people is a ukraine woman translating for that group. she is with them and safe as well, they tell me. again, that family is lucky compared to what we know could be tens of thousands of ukraine children including orphans who are still trapped in that war zone and an orphanage group saying it may be better to

hunker down and face the attacks rather than move everyone. an incredible difficult situation for so many still there in ukraine. >> the very real cost of war. it's so good to know, but it's good to hear they'll get home soon. you know they'd go it again if they had to to have that beautiful baby. we could get the supreme court decisions including on key issues like guns and abortion. i'm chris jansing. jose diaz-balart picks up breaking news coverage right now. good morning, 10:00 a.m. eastern, 7:00 a.m. pacific. we begin this busy morning with russia intensifying in ukraine. russia and ukraine meet for another round of talks about the belarus border. the humanitarian crisis in ukraine is growing. we'll bring you live reports from ukraine, russia and poland. we'll talk to a