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chernobyl. it underscores the risk that the war could shift from a regional to a global conflict in a matter of hours. at the head of the u.n.'s nuclear agency, they said overnight, the world is in, quote, uncharted waters. it was a message underscored in an urgent plea from president zelenskyy overnight in which he said, quote, europeans, wake up, please. if there is an explosion, it is the end for all of us, the end of europe. only immediate actions of europe can stop the russian military. do not let your v europe die from a nuclear catastrophe. all this puts new pressure on nato leaders who, along with secretary of state antony blinken, are meeting in brussels right now. here's the secretary-general. >> just demonstrates the reck legislationness of this war and importance of ending it and the importance of russia withdrawing all its troops and engaging in gad faith and diplomatic efforts. >> and just in the last hour, the u.n. security council called

an emergency meeting for later this morning. but amid all the meetings and i don't know going calls for more talks, the russian war machine is simply pushing deeper into ukraine. more than 2,000 ukrainian civilians have been killed including this teen gauged boy. you can see him being mourned by his father. multiple cities have been devastated by russian artillery. look at these pictures of a town outside kyiv, maybe an hour outside the capital, buildings torn open by explosions, and the scenes are playing out over and over and over again all across the country. i want to bring in nbc's erin mclaughlin, who's in lviv. raf sanchez is in moscow. admiral james stavridis is the former supreme allied co-mander at nato. melinda herring is deputy director to of the council. thank you on this incredibly important morning.

admiral, you've been warning about this kind of thing since before the war began, the idea that things could go sideways in the blink of an eye. tell me your thoughts this morning. >> we've seen this playbook before again and again from vladimir putin. 2008, georgia. 2014, crimea. what did he do after that? he went to syria. and he is creating syria on the river. these are war crimes plain and simple. we need to call them out. we need to continue to broadcast and talk about it. the white house needs to talk about it. and above all, the white house has to continue to work to get this out of a u.s. versus russia channel and get it into what it is, which is russia as a rogue nation conducting war crimes indiscriminately attacking civilians, and most recently this near miss on a devastating

event with the nuclear power plant. you know, ukraine has many nuclear power plants, i think about 15 across four sites across the country. we're going to see this again. it is just another indication, as secretary-general said accurately, of the reckless way in which vladimir putin is waging war. >> do you believe the reality of this nuclear threat? we knew it was there but it was visceral last night. does that have to change the conversation in brussels right now? >> yes, it does. everyone knows in brussels, in washington, in western capitals, that the worst is yet to come. vladimir putin, like the admiral said, has done this before. this is not his first rodeo in ukraine. but he's not the same vladimir putin we've studied since the end of 1989. he's more reckless than in the past. his behavior is scary.

he's threatening europe with nukes. we don't know if it's bluff. he bluffed before. but he went into ukraine and is to trying to destroy the country and will engage in indiscriminate bombing and won't give up. >> admiral, look, if we had any doubt about it before, we heard from france's president macron yesterday that putin told him in unequivocal terms he's essentially in this until the end, right. it feels a terrifying and long night. so i wonder what you think his end game is here or what the point was of being at that reactor last night. >> chris, we don't have to guess about any of it. he has told us exactly what his end game is. he intends to conquer ukraine, the way the romans would conquer a province in europe, the way the nazis conquered nations. he intends to conquer ukraine and impose a puppet government on it. i think he is without question

intent on carrying this to the full extent of military capabilities. therefore, we should be doing all we can to support the ukrainians as they heroically battle this, and that means even more military weapons into the ukrainians, more intelligence, cyber overwatch and protection, rallying against putin's behavior, imposing economic costs. we talk about putin's game plan. i think joe biden's game plan is the best that can be constructed at this moment. we need to execute it and do all that we can to support the ukrainians in this moment. >> well, to support the ukrainians, i mean, it is so heartbreaking there. we saw that picture, one picture of the dad over the body of his teenaged son. even though this didn't cause a nuclear catastrophe, we see a humanitarian catastrophe that's unolding, and last night russia

gained control of a quarter of ukraine's power supply. what's the risk right now to the ukrainian people, erin? >> reporter: hey, chris. first, i think it's worth pointing out this is not the first time that the russians have attacked a nuclear site in ukraine. the first day of the invasion they seized control of the chernobyl nuclear site, the site of the 1986 nuclear disaster. there was intense fighting around the nuclear site. according to ukrainian officials, that fighting actually disturbed some of the radioactive dust on the ground in the area, raising the radiation levels in the chernobyl area. so in terms of this site, while the situation is stable, as you point out, it does control -- represent about a quarter of ukraine's power supply. that is a concern, although i i've been speaking to a former zelenskyy adviser and he says because of the war, power consumption in ukraine has gone down precipitously with manufacturing offline and not

consuming as much power. so that seems to be less of a concern at this point. but ukrainian officials are incredibly concerned about the 15 nuclear reactors and what could happen if russian troops go after the remaining nuclear reactors, also pointing to the fact that a lot of people in these facilities now occupied by russians, their nerves are frayed and mistakes can happen. that's a real source of concern in ukraine. >> raf, take me into russia. what is the kremlin saying about this? and maybe more to the point, do the russian people have any idea how close this all came to catastrophe last night? >> reporter: chris, the narrative being put out by the russian ministry of defense is as russian forces closed in on this power plant, the ukrainians started shooting at them from a training building on the complex and then the ukrainians set fireplace to that building. that obviously does not match up with the reality we are seeing on the ground, which is that fire was started by russian firepower.

but this is an example of a kremlin that is absolutely determined to stomp out any their tich that contradicts the official government line. this morning the russian parliament rushed through a new law that means you can be imprisoned for 15 years in this country if you spread quote, unquote fake news about what is happening in ukraine. now, you asked about do the russian people know about this nuclear near miss last night. it is not being talked about with any volume on russian state media, which is our best window into what the kremlin wants the russian people to hea while of course the entire rest of the world is talking about it. part of the reason for that is the russian people are being told day after day that this is a limited operation in the east of ukraine to defend russian speakers, but the reality is this fighting is happening in the middle of the country and that this is a widespread

invasion happening along multiple axes. the bbc said earlier in the week that traffic to its russian language website has tripled over the last couple of days, and they assume that is russians looking for the truth about what is happening. but, chris, the russian government has now cut off access to that bbc russian language site. >> so, alleged mirl, the question remains what to do about it. i want to ask you about senator lindsey graham, who last night called for someone in russia to step up to the plate and take putin out. here's what e said this morning on fox. >> the best way for this to end is have the russian spring, so to speak, where people rise up and take him down because if he continues to be their leader, then he's going to make you complicit with war crimes. you're a good people. you'll never have a future. you'll be isolated from the world. and you'll live in abject poverty. i'm hoping somebody in russia

will understand that he's destroying russia and you need to take this guy out by any means possible. >> controversial statement, but let me ask you, admiral, do you see any scenario in which someone in russia decides to take this into their own hands, either a coup or an assassination? or does something like what we heard from lindsey graham, just as criticings have said, give putin more propaganda? >> well, first and foremost, we've been talking a lot about the threat vladimir putin poses to ukraine, which is overwhelming. he's an enormous threat to russia. and i think senator graham is absolutely correct to point out that the path upon which vladimir putin has embarked potentially could destroy the russian economy and make it isolated rogue state. russian history is full of turnarounds. you had ivan the terrible then peter the great.

you suffer through stalin but mikhail gorbachev emerges. the cosmic dice have landed on people. thap oar not going to be there forever. one other analogy to think about, we use this expression crossing the rubicon. it's what julius cesar did in defiance of the roman republic. how did he end up? he was assassinated on the ides of march. i think there is a hope that within russia the light will go on that russia is headed in a terrible direction. how realistic it is at this moment does not seem to be because of the way in which vladimir putin has his hands firmly on the levers of power. information, light, and continuing to talk about what he's doing to russia i think should be part of this solution. >> that brings us back to nato very briefly. melinda, what do you hope comes

out of the talks today in brussels? >> i hope the europeans send jets to ukraine. they talked about doing that this week and back tracked on it. the ukrainians need airpower. i understand there are risks, but there's also risk to inaction. we have 2 million ukraine nl refugees that have already streamed into the european union. there could be another 5 million. this is a massive refugee crisis, and these people have done nothing wrong. so i am hoping and praying that the europeans will step up not only with weapons but also with jets. >> melinda haring, admiral james stavridis, raf sanchez, erin mclaughlin, thank you all. coming up, the latest jobs numbers after the u.s. added 678,000 jobs in february. but with prices soaring, where are we in the covid recovery? that's ahead. but first the world central kitchen is working around the clock to serve meals to refugees. their ceo joins me next.

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this morning the russian invasion escalating a devastating humanitarian catastrophe that's been shocking in its speed. more than a million people fleeing their homes in a week with unicef estimating more than half are children.

there is one positive development. ukrainian and russian negotiators agree to form humanitarian corridors to allow people to esz cape the worst of the fighting. but that doesn't mean the journey is easy, many leaving with just the clothes on their back. that's where our next guest comes in. his humanitarian group, world central kitchen, is working hard to ensure these refugees are fed along the way. the group has already served more than 41,000 meals. nate is chief executive for the world central kitchen and joins me from lviv, ukraine. thanks for taking time away from your important duties. i want to thank everyone at world central kitchen for what you all are doing. tell us what you're seeing on the ground there. >> i'm here at the train station in lviv and this is where refugees from across the eastern side of ukraine are coming in to flee the attacks. it's also where the ukrainians are trying to get on trains to leave ukraine, so they're crossing into poland where world

central kitchen teams are also baylesed. it is -- the numbers here are astronomical. every day they're going up. we're seeing many women and children here coming in, some of them don't know what they're going to do next, so world central kitchen is here to provide a hot meal, many times this is the first hot meal families have had in a couple of days. in total, we've served now close to 150,000 meals at this point here in ukraine, in poland, and also along the border in moldova and romania. >> you've been on the ground for many disasters before. have you ever seen anything kwik lite this? >> there's really no way to put into words what's happening here, the tragedy, families having to just abandon their lives, not knowing what's going to happen next, a huge sense of uncertainty. you know, in a natural disaster like a hurricane or earthquake or volcano eruption, the worst

has passed and now it's recovery and support. here we don't know. every day in lviv, this morning there were air raid sirens going off, families going to shelters. thankfully, it has remained peaceful here so far. as you mentioned, this may end up being the humanitarian focus as millions potentially of ukrainians flee the east to the west as attacks continue. so that's what we're focused on here. we're setting up kitchens, setting up supplies. we're getting food to this humanitarian corridor coming in from poland to stockpile food knowing even if it's not needed right this second, the situation could change quickly. but we are seeing more and more every day families coming. >> i wonder about your ability to get supplies, get meals premed and delivered. we've heard russians taking cheat, flour. are you getting what you need right now? and what don't you have? >> so far we've been able to source what we need. we're bringing in food that cannot be sourced here in

ukraine from poland. we've been working closely with ukrainians, the polish, the u.s., the united states government to ensure that we have access. we're also working with the world food program as well that is starting to plan for their own response. so we're doing everything we can right now, everything is okay, we're able to get what we need. also working closely with ukrainian partners on the ground. so it's not just world central kitchen, we're bringing together this force to provide meals to those that need them. so we have multiple kitchens here, partner restaurants, chefs. they're working around the clock. it's really incredible. we couldn't do what we do without the support of the amazing ukrainian people and across the border in poland and romania and hungary as well. >> sometimes when you're of service in a situation like, this especially people who have been in it before, you don't process it fully when you're in it. but it is an extraordinary and challenging thing to do what you

do. how is your team holding up? >> our team is doing incredible considering the circumstances. i think what keeps us going every day is talking to those families that have gone through so much and, you know, our ability to provide them that hot meal that nourishes not just the body but also the soul. and that, you know, kind of keeps us going day by day. also hearing from our amazing partners in cities like kharkiv and kherson, chefs that are cooking every day while under bombardment, bombs are falling from the sky, and they're still cooking, delivering meals to families in shelters, in bunkers, to hospitals. and, you know, it's really -- the smallest thing that we can do is be there and stand side by side with them. our team is inspired by these incredible heroes across ukraine that are feeding their people during this difficult time. >> and we are inspire build you as well. nate mook, thanks to you and your team. our thoughts are with you as you

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than we realized. the unemployment rate went down and people came back into the workforce. what was challenging about the report, wage growth was basically zero in a month when we're probably going to get a decent amount of inflation. so the economy is adding jobs, but the economy is not raising wages fast enough to keep up with inflation. >> a lot of folks are feeling that. the numbers do seem to indicate the labor market headed in the right direction, but you have inflation and then of course the crisis in ukraine. put this into the big picture, what kind of impact does it have when we look at the overall economy. >> yeah. the context is when you look at prepandemic levels, we are still very much in a job pool. we're missing 2.1 million jobs, basically 1.4% compared to february of 2020 according to the labor department. because of inflation at 7.5%, the wages in the last year only going up 5.1%, it makes it very

difficult in this labor shortage for people who hire, especially in education. i interviewed the sonoma unified valley district's superintendent. he cannot find enough teachers and bus drivers. here's what he told me yesterday. >> having been a site administrator for many years, going out and recruiting and having anywhere from 60 to 80 applicants for a counseling position or multisubject teacher position, we're now seeing if we're lucky one to two to three applicants. >> he also tells me that he shoulders when he has to compete with major retailers. we see good news with target starting new jobs at $24 an hour, but of course that pays in many cases more than say a bus driver job that the superintendent is offering. so the competition here in this labor shortage is certainly very, very painful. but overall, yes, this is a strong jobs report. for people, though, trying to earn money and pay their way through and make it through their budgets with gas prices

going up and food prices going up, this jobs report is probably not really a game changer for orlando their people. plus we know the federal reserve is planning to raise rates given this very difficult inflation picture, chris. >> then there's the global economy, jason. this morning the president of the world bank says the war in ukraine comes at a mr. ly job time because he said that combined with inflation it will reduce global growth and he also said hurt the poor the most. do you agree? >> no question the war is a tragedy for the people there. the biggest loser economically is going to be russia. they'll be hurt much, much worse out of this than any other country. i think it's a negative for the u.s. economy. but i don't want people to be too worried about how big a negative it is. we make a lot of our own oil in this country. we were reasonably well hedged and in strong position as an economy. so it's a bit of uncertainty for us, a bit of a head wind for us.

but i don't think it's going to have that large a negative effect for people in the united states. >> jason fuhrman on that positive note, jo ling kent, thanks to both of you. now an nbc news exclusive. former attorney general bill barr describing to lester holt how then president trump became enraged after barr told him there was no evidence the 2020 election was fraudulent. >> and i told him that all this stuff was bull [ bleep ]. and it was wrong to be shoveling it out the way his team was. he started asking me about different theories, and i had the answers so i was able to tell him this is wrong because of this. he was obviously getting very angry about this. i said, look, i understand you're upset with me and i'm perfectly happy to tender my resignation. then, boom. >> he slapped the desk. >> she slapped the desk and said

"accepted!" the house committee investigating the january 6th insurrection is piling up subpoenas. jackie has been covering this and is author of the newsletter "the early 202." let's talk about guilfoyle. she spoke at the stop the sale rally before the riot, one of the closest associates believed to be in touch with donald trump on that day. how does her testimony move the needle? >> the post has previously reported on kim guilfoyle's role as working with julie fancelli, the largest donor to the stop the steal rally, and guilfoyle is in touch with various people and rallied planners about who was speaking at the rally and was communicating about the decision that trump had to not

allow certain people to speak at the rally, including people like ammie alexander, alex jones, and roger stone. my colleagues and i did a deep dive into some of the backstage drama that went into picking these rally speakers and ultimately after katrina pearson went to the white house that monday before the stop the steal rally on the e lims, some of the speakers, carolyn wren, was pushing for scuttle much to the concern potentially of people like kim guilfoyle, who were trying to appease julia fancelli, the tom donor to the rally. >> another part of the whole follow the money part of it. but i want to talk about what's been happening in the last couple days. a 19-year-old, the teenagerer who tipped off the fbi about his dad before the january 6th riot and then he actually gathered evidence after the attack. he testified thursday. he was terrified.

and he also said he was nervous and paranoid about his dad's demeanor when he decided to contact federal authorities. he's talked about googling how do you turn somebody in. what do you make of a testimony, and how big a deal is this? >> what a challenging thing for jackson so ultimately do, but it's something that a lot of the families and people connected to these insurrectionists are dealing with across the country. and it's a pattern of behavior that investigators on the january 6th committee are also looking closely at, trying to better understand what per swalded and propelled these people to ultimately become essentially radicalized and breach security at the capitol. that is, again, you know, something that's a little bit overlooked in terms of the broader scheme of what the committee is doing right now, but they are really trying to understand the mind-sets of these people in order to prevent another january 6th from

happening again. >> jackie, always good to see you. thank you. thanks for your reporting. there's this major news out of florida. state senators passing a bill that would ban abortions after 15 weeks of pregnancy. the bill would go into effect july 1st with the only exceptions being if the mother is at risk of death or irreversible physical impairment or if the fetus has a fatal abnormality. now it goes toe republican governor ron desantis. he's expressed his support. that would put florida at the exact time limit that the supreme court is considering right now. still ahead, with the ukraine invasion stretching into a ninth day, clint watts at the big board breaking down what the troop movements mean. and how worried should we be as russia targets nuclear power plants? moves back. an alternative to pills, voltaren is a non-steroidal anti-inflammatory gel for powerful arthritis pain relief. voltaren, the joy of movement.

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capability. a lot of moving parts, obviously, in ukraine, but we will have that for you as soon as it begins. it's coming as officials say vladimir putin had hoped to take kyiv by now, the capital, but the russian advance has stalled in the north and east while southern cities are encircled by russian troops. and of course overnight russia took control of europe's largest nuclear plant, sparking new fears about a catastrophic event. clint watts has been checking russia's latest movements. let's start with what happened last night because obviously a terrifying scenario that unfolded there. fortunately, we didn't have a leak of any radiation, but what did we see? >> thavrt, chris. you might have seen video from social media. you saw lots of firefights essentially happening up and around these cooling towers. luckily, all reports seem to say that everything is safe in terms of any nuclear issues. this brings up, why does russia want these nuclear power plants? threefold. one is to control the

electricity. they're going to siege warfare and a lot of cities trying to drain the population centers. second, it's psychological. they want to inflict fear in the west and fear at home. the best way to do that is to take one of these facilities and really use disinformation to create the perception that it's ukraine doing this, not russia. the third part is logistics. what you see here is a rail head. people don't often realize that every nuclear facility has a rail held for moving logistics in and out. if you are a large armored formation, one stuck on highways, having trouble resupplying, these rail heads become essential over time. that's what i wanted to show you here. when you zoom the map out, these are railways and train tracks. you'll notice they almost always line up neatly with the nuclear power plants. separate from that, nuclear power plant don't sit right in the center of population centers where they'd be vulnerable to insurgents. part of plan is control but it's

also about logistics. the bigger fight i wanted to talk about, we've talked about rugts weakness in the north getting bogged down in the convoy, in the south it's a different story. in crimea they made a major land bridge tieing in with the insurgent-held areas in donbas. mariupol is under complete siege, power outages, major bombardments. this is a forecast of what we might see in kyiv should they surround that in the north. yesterday they advanced to kherson. that's key because there's a bridge head there that crosses the river that opens to the mouth of the black sea. they crossed that. they're advancing further this morning. if they can get over the next part and move further to the west, what you'll see is they can go all the way to the moldovan border and seal off the southern end of ukraine. wouldn't be able to be replay v supplied by sea.

and they could do landing craft and move into odessa, probably the most strategic town in the south. if they can take odessa, this would be a major blow to ukraine both in terms of access to sea but also a major boon for the russians in terms of logistical problems. this fight comes down to one issue at this point -- fuel, food, and ammunition. who can do it best? the russians are expanding. they're not doing it perfectly. they are getting bogged down in certain areas. meanwhile, the ukrainians are running out of those items every day. >> clint watts, thank you so much. coming up, with the crisis in ukraine growing more dire by the minute, social media has been both a source of disinformation and a bastian of unfiltered reality on the ground. what is the role of social media companies and what some are calling the first tiktok war?

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together with what is president putin's war of choice. unprovoked, unjustified, and a war that is having horrific consequences for real people -- for mothers, fathers, children. we see the images on tv. and it has to stop. we're committed to doing everything we can to make it stop. the coordination between us is vital but it's beyond the united states and europe. this is an aggression, a challenge, a threat that is relevant to the entire world because what's at risk foremost are the ukrainian lives of men, women, and children, but beyond that the fundamental principles that we've established together after two world wars that are so important to keeping peace and security for everyone.

principles that president putin is violating every single day. the notion that one country can't take over another country by force. the principle that one country can't dictate to another the decisions they would make. one country subjugates its neighbors to its will. all of those things are at stake, and if we allow those principles to be challenged, as putin is doing now, with impunity, that will open a pandora's box of trouble for not just us but quite frankly for the entire world. so the stakes are high. but because we're doing this together, i'm very confident that we'll succeed. i have to say finally, the two of us have been working like this for many, many months, and that collaboration, that partnership, that friendship is

also what makes a difference and i'm really grateful for it. thank you. >> so there's antony blinken, again, making a call on the entire world saying that this i egregious violation and it is relevant to the entire world. this morning there is this stark contrast playing out as russia intensifies its attacks on major cities across ukraine. social media on one side is providing the world with accurate realtime information, the new yorker describes it this way. large number of civilians are taking up arms to defend their country against putin, they're also documenting the information in grandular details. social media is spreading dangerous information,

pro-russia propaganda actors. joining us now is the wall street journal, let's start with social media, how crucial is it right now in terms of showing what's going on inside ukraine? >> i think it is extremely important and even if you don't think it is important you are still going to be bombarded by this content. tiktok as you mentioned in your introduction has been huge for letting other generations, the younger generation really get a glimpse into this war and i have been saying this is not the first connected war. it is not the first social media war, it is the first tiktok war as new yorkers said. there is a big difference in the way tiktok is designed that allows people to get closer to this content. one, the people in ukraine are the citizens have this tool ta makes it so easy, four steps to get your video up on tiktok. on the opposite side those who are consuming it, it is seconds,

you are swiping through this algorithmic feed that's showing you more of contents of ukraine. >> yeah, president zelensky is very savvy, talking to people directly in russians about putin's lies about what's happening in his country. talk about the impact of that? he's one of the first world leaders we have seen use it this way. maybe the first. >> yeah, and to come back to tiktok, he's a meme on tiktok. there are people drooling over him. everyone is posting these videos of him from the past footage of him from a comedian and playing around to some of the new clips now. this actually gets back to the heart of the algorithm. my tiktok feed is overwhelmingly

pro-ukrainians. everything is from him on the ground and the meme of zelensky to a lot of anti-putin. the algorithm is going to keep on feeding it, it knows that i am watching that content. this is what comes back to that filter bubble, we are seeing certain sides within these apps. >> we only have a minute left, i want to read what "the washington post" wrote on the other side of putin. blocking state run media from any country that blocks them to do otherwise hands a megaphone to a authoritarian abroad even as they are preventing their citizens from hearing anyone except them speaking at home. facebook and twitter say they have been putting down pro-russia pages spreading information. the question is are they going to do next. >> i think we'll hear more and more of this. facebook and instagram and

tiktok have all been making move to flag or take down this content. how can they get more aggressive? one of the positives we are seeing from tech companies is that are not flat-footed, they are moving quickly and having history of other disinformation from elections around the world. they move quickly and are moving quickly and got fact-checking operations and got engineers on this. >> johanna stern, i know you will stay on top of this. thank you very much, still ahead, the incredible firsthand account from a chicago woman who documented her dramatic escape from ukraine. her dramatic escae from ukraine

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her family when she was recovering from knee surgery when she was awaken from bombs exploding a week ago. they sought refuge in the subway. before managing to get on a bus in the west. olga has been documenting her journey posting pictures and videos on instagram. >> so we are going to underground. here sitting at the shelter in a bomb shelter and checking the news constantly, we are told that something may happen around 5:00 p.m. so just waiting. >> i am currently at a bus station and we have been waiting for the bus to arrive the past three hours. it is here but we are missing one driver so still waiting. what people are going to do after they cross the border at this point? i don't have no idea. our goal is to get to a major city and go from there and i

will figure out as i go. >> olga soy is join us now from poland, first andforemost, how are you and your mom doing? >> the main thing is we are safe and warm. i want to say good and compares to everything else that's happening so thank you. >> the biggest thing on your mind is how am i going to get through this knee recovery, boy, that changed. describe what it has been for you? >> it has been one long day but it feels like it has been over a month constant traveling and checking on relatives and everybody, you guys showed a segment showing that my hometown pretty much got taken over and it is incredibly sad because my entire family is there currently and seeing that on the news that my little town will be shown on the news like that, i would

never thought that would happen. >> have you been able to be in touch with your family, i can't imagine the fear and the emotions of seeing that? >> yes, absolutely, we are checking on my dad and all of our family constantly. we are just, we have a group chat with the family and just it seems like everybody is taking shelter and trying to get by but everybody is really worried what's going to happen next because they are running out of food and right now is not safe to get outside and go a store and just buy food and everybody has been in a great spirit if i can say that you know compares to what's happening. everybody is keeping positive and hoping that this will end soon so but other than it it seems like, the sooner it ends,

the better it will be. >> i know you are hoping to get to the u.s. so you and your mm can seek asylum to get back to the u.s. have you made any progress? >> there is asylum here that we attended and it seems like they're giving out packages of information, it does not seem to get my mom back to the u.s. because she does not have a citizenship. this is not the reason for her to not trying to go on a tour in new york. we are just standing pretty much and waiting for something to happen hopefully there will be a passage for people who are trying to get to the united

states. i have been following the news constantly and it seems like the people who are already in the states are able to apply for protection but if you are not, there is no way unfortunately to get there right now unless you open a non-immigrant visa. >> we wish you well, thank you for helping us understand what's going on realtime there and best to your mom and family in ukraine as well. that's going to wrap it up this hour. i am chris jansen, "jose diaz-balart report" picks up news coverage right now. >> good morning, ukraine's president is expected to speak any moment. we'll bring you the seconds it occurs. russia taking over the nuclear plant over night after shelling it. we'll talk with the ukrainian journalist staying in his homeland to fight the russian invaders. we'll take a look at