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constantly and it seems like the people who are already in the states are able to apply for protection but if you are not, there is no way unfortunately to get there right now unless you open a non-immigrant visa. >> we wish you well, thank you for helping us understand what's going on realtime there and best to your mom and family in ukraine as well. that's going to wrap it up this hour. i am chris jansen, "jose diaz-balart report" picks up news coverage right now. >> good morning, ukraine's president is expected to speak any moment. we'll bring you the seconds it occurs. russia taking over the nuclear plant over night after shelling it. we'll talk with the ukrainian journalist staying in his homeland to fight the russian invaders. we'll take a look at the
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humanitarian crisis and what's being done to help the 1 million plus people who have already fled ukraine. later this hour, congressman joe neguse talks to us about america's efforts to help ukrainians and also u.s. secretary marty walsh will talk to me about the jobs report. and in an exclusive, former general william barr speaking out about his confrontation with president trump over the 2020 election results. ♪♪ we begin with the latest on the violence in ukraine, right now russian forces have taken control of europe's largest nuclear power plant after an intense fire broke out over night. it could have triggered an explosion, one that's ten times larger than the 1986 chernobyl tragedy.
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the u.s. describes the russian attack on that nuclear plant as a war crime. russian forces have taken the worker at the power plant hostage. the director of the plant are working under the invader's guns. president zelensky describing this as a night that could stop history. journalists this morning, russian lawmakers passed the law to jail journalists for publishing what they call fake news of moscow's invasion of ukraine. joining us now with erin mclaughlin live from lviv ukraine and ralph sanchez in moscow. give us an update on this power plant, what kind of damage did it sustain? >> hey, jose, last night was terrifying for the ukrainians.
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people were glued for the latest update on this nuclear power plant as a battle between russia military and ukrainian troops unfolded there right at the plant, the building was lit on fire and employee training building and there is real concerns that fire could spread and what could happen. the fire was extinguished, we understand the situation is stable and no increases of radiation levels recorded as a result of the clashes. the plant is firmly now in the control of russian troops and it does represent about a quarter of this country's power supply, although speaking to a former zelensky adviser he was not so concerned about that because power consumption here has plummeted as a war factory and things like that. they're not using as much power. he was not too concerned about that. he was concerned of the overall
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security situation pointing to the fact that there are 15 nuclear sites here throughout the country and the danger it could pose should russia choose to attack another city. russia is occupying this. their concern is mistakes could happen. jose. >> we are seeing the map where these four nuclear power plants are, part of the 15 reactors you are talking about. you guys spoke with residents of kherson of the first town that falls to the russians, what are they telling you? >> reporter: the residents of kherson are terrified. russian troops moved in and they over powered the ukrainian military and they took the town. it was only until yesterday that people within the city could move about the city after a deal was reached between the russian military and ukrainian, sort of the rules of occupation set and
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posted on facebook including a strict curfew. it is extremely scary, i was speaking to one resident who wanted to remain anonymous, he wanted to go by the name jimmy and he wanted us to conceal his identity, he describes the scene in the city yesterday. take a listen. >> as i saw the picture of them -- marching besides the bus station and i understood that's it, we are taketaken. >> what's lesson that could be learned what's happening here? >> i could call it a silent take over. we probably lost our town to the enemy but the majority thinks it is a temporary and we have to
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hold on until the ukrainian army frees us. >> reporter: i was speaking to another man named dennis in lviv and his mother in is kherson, he's trying to get his family across the border. he's trying to go to kherson saving his mother, he's concerned she could be jailed by the russians because she has been helping the ukrainians. there was no mention of how people getting in and out and it is unclear if they're able to do that. it is an illustration of the uncertainty and confusion and terror the people here in ukraine are facing. >> ralph, while we heard from putin this morning who's urging russia's neighbors not to escalate tensions, what is he talking about? >> jose, this appears to be a thinly warning to russia's neighbors in eastern europe, not
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to get involved in this situation in ukraine and all and it is a reminder that nato's current strategy is not without risks. nato forces are not directly confronting the russians but weapons are flowing from nato countries into ukraine, into the hands of ukrainian soldier and s and they are being used. vladimir putin has not given direct information. no one knows where putin's mind is at this moment. it is a dangerous moment, it is the second time we heard from the russian president in two days. yesterday he spoke to his national security council, he gave a version of reality of what is happening on the ground in ukraine which does not line up of what erin and our other teams on the ground are hearing. he talked about the ukrainian government and its forces being a bunch of neo-nazis and hated
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by mercenaries who are hold tg ukrainian people hostage at gunpoint but of course what we are seeing the ukrainian people rallying against this russian invasion at some point literally throwing their bodies in front of tanks to stop russian forces going forward. jose. >> raf sanchez and erin mclaughlin, joining us now, peter, he has relocated his family but stayed behind. thank you for being with us. russia is in control of the largest european nuclear power plant, how does it change things for you in the last 24 hours? >> it is extremely tense the last 24 hours. i was an 11-year soviet schoolboy in 1986 during chernobyl.
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this as mentioned in the previous segment would have been a few times of the order of chernobyl disaster. this is also by the way coming on the heels of the russians take over of the actual chernobyl site. it seems in line of vladimir putin's strategy of blackmailing not only ukraine but the entire west and the entire world with nuclear plants. it will be a tactical strike on ukrainian city. he's hinted that already and considering he's kind of bogged down in ukraine and maybe desperate to contemplate doing so and also some kind of a blackmail through holding these topic spacious that you referred to. >> i know you are separated from your family, how are they doing and how are you doing? >> they're doing fine, they're in the west of ukraine which is relatively safe considering no part of ukraine is safe at the moment. i am closer to kyiv. i dropped them off.
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i have two little kids with my colleagues, we both have been making our way slowly towards kyiv and considering rejoining with our comrades at some point in this near future because it seems like vladimir putin realizes that he has to take kyiv otherwise he has no game and if you ask me right now, he does not have any game sort of some kind of a nuclear strike. he's a conventional forces and bogged down in ukraine and he's suffering all sorts of losses and supply alliance have inadequate, the moral of his troops is low and obviously russia is losing in a major way in a pr war and ukrainians have incredible support and love and sympathy from all over the world. >> peter, i am wondering if i had the pleasure speaking with you ten days ago, our
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conversations would have been so different, life have changed so much for so many in these last ten days. >> incredible. ten days ago, -- it started on wednesday, the last missile day before the black thursday, you know no one in ukraine believed this would happen. sure, if you were in ukraine, people were going about their daily lives and used to the idea of a war in ukraine but some where localized in the east and this has taken us by a storm. this was like a water shed moment. it is happening on the scale of our entire country of 40 million people. this is only something that we read about in books and saw movies and all of a sudden we are living those movies and books. >> peter, thank you very much for being with us this morning. i very much appreciate your time. joining us now peter baker,
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chief correspondent and our msnbc analyst. great to see you. now the russian forces capturing the largest nuclear plant. how concerned are you and these vulnerabilities and putin in his desperation will go nuclear in some form or another. >> this is a big war in washington and if you in situation right now, you want to pay close attention to what american officials are telling us they have not seen signs that nuclear weapons in many way being moved or unloaded or deployed in any real way. obviously that nuclear plant last night was great worries at the moment. there is no evidence of any increase radiation or damages. putin's threat to use nuclear weapons in effect and the attack
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on that nuclear plant tells you how much reckless this attack is and how quickly it can spire something into much worse. the scenes we are seeing in ukraine are devastating. so many people having their lives uprooted and many cases hurt and killed and yet we can see how an unstable leader in the kremlin is in fact what vladimir putin is right now causes an even more volatile danger for not just ukraine but for all of europe potentially. >> yeah, just by the way this morning nato's secretary accused russia of using cluster bombs. >> we have seen the use of cluster bombs and reports of top weapons which will be in violation of national law. and also welcoming the decision by the national criminal court
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to open an investigation into this we have to make sure that president putin are held accountable of a they do. >> cluster bombs have been used in other conflicts throughout history. put into context why this is so significant that nato is talking about this. >> what we are seeing is a good level of brutality by vladimir putin forces that goes beyond the boundaries. i spent years in moscow covering the capitol of tasnia. the kind of destroyed many civilians lives and it was not
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precision weaponary. you are seeing that in ukraine today. a lack of regards of civilian lives and targets. that's something the west condemned. the west had its own history of issues regarding civilian casualties and plenty of different wars over the years. at the least, the doctrine is trying to avoid it. it is not the doctrine we are seeing in ukraine. >> maybe he's enjoying using this. it goes on and on. peter, lindsey graham doubled down on his comments that the pathway out of this conflict is the internal removal or assassination of putin. the press secretary calling it a hysterical classification of --
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>> it is defamatory. pressuring the people around him to intervene in some way or another, trying to convince him that things are going badly and he need to reverse course or to pressure him in some way. sanctions applied to his circle and people who have money and wealth and power said they can't have independent power in that society are aimed at clearly creating atmosphere right now that could potentially you know pressure vladimir putin to change course. now whether that'll work or not. who knows and whether it will resolve in his removal of power, that seems like a long shot. it is not entirely ruled out. when dictators fall, they seem i e seemed -- i think people around him concerned of the unbalanced behaviors they are seeing.
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>> certainly rare. peter baker, thank you so much for being with us. we have breaking news out of the supreme court, let's get right to nbc news' pete williams. >> jose, the supreme court just reimposed the death sentence for jkhar tsarnaev. the jury gave his the death sentence for those deaths. the federal appeal courts reversed on two grounds. the judge at the trial should allowed his defense lawyer to question his potential jurors more of these coverage they have seen and heard of the bombings. secondly, they said the judge should have allowed evidence about another crime allegedly committed by his older brother
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that happened a few years earlier in massachusetts where people potential drug sale were brutally murdered and the defense said that evidence should have been allowed at the trial to show that the older brother held such sway over the younger tsarnaev. the judge did not allow it. that was one of the two grounds which the appeals court said there should be a new sentencing. the supreme court by a vote of 6-3 rejected that ruling and reimposed the death sentence, steven briar, said the trial judge should have allowed evidence of other crimes because the defense argued the older brother was the master mind of the operation and the younger brother was cowed by him. that was the center's view. dhokhar tsarnaev is on death row. he's 28 years old.
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he's remain there and he'll not get a new sentencing. many people in boston were dreading the prospect of there would be another sentencing hearing of witnesses having once again, having to take the stand to go through the agony that the bombing caused in their lives. so, no new sentencing. the death sentence for dhokhar tsarnaev is reimposed. the original sentence that was given to him by the jury is back in effect, jose. coming up, a much better expected jobs report is out. what does it say about the economic recovery. bill barr thinks president trump is to blame for the january 6th insurrection. our next exclusive, you are watching "jose diaz-balart reports." ports.
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you. what does this jobs report tell us about the state of the labor market? >> it shows our labor market is strong. 90% of jobs were lost have came back. we saw a gain because we saw good jobs gained across all sector. numbers are going down in unemployment in all sectors as well. the african-american and latino communities, we still have work to do. the work that we have done here at the department of labor last year was work force development and apprenticeship and working to create more apprenticeship. we have to do more of as we go into 2022 and beyond. >> when you break it down by industry as you were talking about leisure and hospitality was a big figure. this is an industry struggling to find workers, what does it
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say of the state of hiring in the leisure and hospitality? >> it is not just industry. other industries have been struggling too. leisure hospitality is an important industry in our country. the hardest hit areas in a lot of cases were leisure and hospitalities, restaurants and tourism and hotels. as we are seeing it back we are creating more pathways, i met with restaurant groups how we can partner with restaurant groups and helping with work force development. those industries are going to look different, we need to support them as best as we can. areas that depends on tourism as a way to survive. >> so many workers have been affected by these crisis.
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>> average hourly earnings have increased by 5%. inflation risen more than 7% during the same period. are you worried the rise in prices particularly gas which jumped by 40 cents could have an impact on hiring and the recovery? >> i don't know about impact of hiring but certainly concerns of inflation, we all do and that's why the president is so focused on it. as we continue to move here in 2022 as the president puts in place many things can ban inflation. we'll start to see that number come down and not seeing that number continue to rise. the inflation wages, there is a lot of reasons why we are dealing with inflation right now. with global pandemics and supply chain issues and we have the situation in ukraine. the ukrainian people being attacked by russia, that'll will add to inflation as well as we go around for over the course next couple of months. the president was focused on the
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state of the union on tuesday night and we as an administration with focused. we want to get those numbers down and bring down costs at kitchen tables for family and make sure americans are prosperous. >> would you say inflation is here to stay at least for the next short term? >> i don't know, it is hard to say of what we have been seeing. inflation number is going up and the prediction is going up again. for the short term we are here to see it stay. i want a lot of people know there is a plan. the president laid out a plan to bring inflation down. secretary marty walsh, thank you very much for being us. i appreciate your time. up next, we'll ask i don't think man joe neguse if it is enough to help the ukrainians. you are watching "jose diaz-balart reports." diaz-balart reports. on a fixed budget, remember the three ps. what are the three ps?
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jose, it is good to be with you. good morning. we a grateful to the biden administration heeding our calls that we made earlier this week to grant status for the ukrainians. 30,000 ukrainians are living in the united states so ultimately could be beneficiaries of the temporary protective status for our departure program. as you know jose the program is incredibly important in situations just like this. the kind of prices that's kind of unfolding in ukraine exactly the type of crisis and con flick that tps and dee designations designed for.
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it is important for us to move swiftly ensuring the tps program is stood up. as you know the disaster, the war that's unfolding in ukraine is as byproduct of russia and it knows no parallels in the last 30 or 40 years. the u.n. commissioner for refugees said in a statement this was the largest exodus he ever seen during the course of last week. there is a lot more to do. tps and ded is certainly a good start. when we are looking at the number over a million, poland taking in 547,000 people and hungary 97,000. should we as americans take in people who are fleeing now, not just those been here since march 1st? >> i believe we should, jose. as you said for those who fled
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the country gone to poland or ukraine's west with this large numbers entering hungary and romania and slovakia and we are grateful for our allies opening their arms and welcoming refugees from ukraine. we need to do the same. i believe when democracy is being threatened, the united states have to stand up as a beacon and hope and liberty to the rest of the world. i say it as being a son of immigrant myself of africa. it is important that we are doing our part as well. we are working on a supplemental to provide the state department and the resources they would need from agency perspective to ensure that asylum cases are processed swiftly so that we can ultimately do our part entering if that's the case. >> congressman, you know this
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better than anybody else. there are hundreds of thousands of people from countries like salvador and haiti and sudan here in the u.s. on some form of tps. does this create pressure to extend tps for these extraordinary people who have been here for decades participating and are part of the fabric of american economy, culture and country? >> well, as you said jose, the tps program has been so critical for a wide variety of folks who are living here in the, our neighbors and friends and our colleagues and members of our community, we have worked to reauthorize tps for a wide variety of different countries, some of what you just mentioned. the administration granted some of those requests and others remaining pending.
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we have to keep pushing homeland security to take the steps necessary. i also say this, underscoring the needs for comprehensive immigration reform. the president offering another call during his state of the union addressed earlier this week that i had the opportunity to attend and i am hopeful that my colleagues will take his statements seriously and we can move forward on comprehensive reform which will include on the programs you referenced. >> the process is so archaic and people are waiting 10 or 30 or 50 year and they're doing it the way we are asking them to do it. congressman, it is never important to discuss these issues, i thank you for your time this morning. >> thank you, jose. coming up, form attorney general bill barr sits down with lester holt and talks a lot about donald trump and his
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aleve it... and see what's possible. 38 after the hour. former attorney jim bar broke his silence with lester holt. >> i told him that all this stuff was [ bleep ] and that election fraud. >> you are trying to set him straight. >> yes. >> and you know he listened and he was obviously getting very angry about this. i said okay, i understand you're upset with me. and imperfectly happy to turn in
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my resignation and boomed, he slaps it on the desk, accept it and go home, you are done. >> you can see the whole interview on sunday at 9:00 p.m. eastern and 6:00 p.m. pacific on nbc. joining us now is our senior political reporter, it is great seeing you. walk us through the significance of this interview and his memoir, is there going to be the repercussion for the january 6th committee? >> the committee was trying to build the case when he sought to try to overturn the 2020 election even though he lost. senior officials around the formerer president telling him he lost the election that his claims of fraud were not real and that there is no good faith way for him to stand in power. william barr, the top justice department official at the time
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saying his claim of fraud for bs. and trump not accepting it according to barr and saying you are out, i don't want to you anymore. the two pieces of relevant, the january 6th trying to pierce privilege for donald trump and his lawyers to get documents if he was acting corrupt at the time and if that would beef up in favor of the argument. the committee suggested of the explosive brief filed on wednesday that there are potential crimes that donald trump may have committed, specifically obstructing the proceeding of congress and conspiracy to defraud the united states. his mindset had a lot to do with this. he was told he was doing wrong and still persisted. >> thank you so much. the florida state
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legislatures passed a bill that would ban most abortions after 15 weeks of pregnancy. that bill is on the way to near governor's desk. morgan radford is joining us from miami. what does this mean? >> simply, jose, this is a big shift. the current law in florida allows abortions up to 24 weeks with no waiting period. this new law bans abortion after 15 weeks and going into effect on july 1st. there are no exceptions for rape, incest or human trafficking. the only exception is the mother is at risk of deaths or irreversible or physical impairment. just to give you the procedural politics behind this, the florida state senate passed this bill on thursday. both chambers have a republican majority and governor desantis expects to sign it into law. he does have seven days to sign it or veto it. this is especially a big shift
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for many southern women seeking refuge since they travel to florida for abortions due to heavy restrictions in their own neighboring states. abortion rights are hanging in the ballots across the country. west virginia have advanced similar bill. the supreme court is expected to rule injun on the mississippi ban that was passed in 2017. it is a law that's similar to the one here no florida. >> morgan radford in miami, thank you. still ahead, how are a minnesota man living in poland is mobilizing to help ukrainian refugees. we'll speak with him next, you are watching "jose diaz-balart reports." jose diaz-balart reports.
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oh my goodness... wow, look at all those! you get hungry for more and then you're just like, “wow, i'm learning about my family.” yeah, yep. which one, what'd you find? lorraine banks, look, county of macomb, michigan? look at grandma... hey grandma! unbelievable. everybody deserves to know who they are and where they came from. ohhh...cool. this whole journey has been such a huge gift for our family. the international community is stepping up to help more than a million ukrainians flee rushed a million ukrainians flee rushed a . william, thanks for being with us. you are hosting a family right now, how are they doing? >> they are doing well. the family that came to us, we
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just got them long-term housing, rent-free so they have moved out and their mom is staying with us still. there is a ukrainian grandma in our house, we communicate with sign language and a few ukrainian words i remember from 20 years ago like chocolate bunny or i like cucumbers. >> they must be such a state of shock in so many ways, right? >> yes, the first day they got here they were staring at their phones in disbelieves that they were shocked and just sitting and not doing anything but now they have mobilized so this ukrainian family have just jumped into action mode, they are helping us helping other ukrainians. it is really cool to see that. >> how is that is being carried out? how are you and others like you helping? >> so i am part of a team of people and we are basically
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grass roots organizing, we are part of an art festival helping every year and working together and we are concentrating in helping people finding houses right now and we are also thinking long-term how we can provide care for as many ref refugees we can for the long-term. there is a rush of goodwill but that'll not last. we want to do it for the long haul and how can we help them find jobs and support them. many of these refugees are coming without, it is just women and children so it is hard for them to earn money so how can we support them financially and working with child care and with everything. >> 540,000 plus have gotten just to poland. how can or is poland able to
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deal with that number and what could be you know a million or million or 3 million more? >> absolutely not. that's what putin wanted. we'll do our best and it is great to see poland is mobilizing and people are doing what they can. i think the answer is eventually not going to be enough. >> poland does have a historical memory of what it is like to be invading by another country and seeing the world react sometimes helps and sometimes not. >> right, we are used to that. my wife is polish and we had about a thousand years training in crisis so we are good in crisis so it is good to see that come alive. >> what an extraordinary country and extraordinary history and culture. william shaw, thank you for being with us. >> thank you. not all refugees are being
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facing racism. a student who shot the video of guns being pointed at them. >> reporter: how would you describe what's happening at the border? >> with us now to talk about this, msnbc international affair analyst, an historian whose work focuses on russia and europe. kimberly, you've been in touch with some of the african students who have had similar experiences. what do they tell you in. >> we're seeing unfortunately a lot of the same reports. so you're hearing about african students being pushed to the back of the line.
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it's understandable, there's a line for students for ukrainian students who can easily cross the border and others who will take longer. and there's some hair-raising stories of students not being able to get on busses. a student was pulled off a bus. the only reason he was able to get on is because a ukrainian woman saw him and said she was her husband and he was the only african student allowed on to the bus towards the polish border. this is a significant crisis that we're seeing for these and can students. >> when they can't get on buses and train, they're forcing people to walk? >> yes, people are walking 20 and 30 miles to get towards the
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polish border. this is african, indian, middle eastern students. we're seeing this across the board for these visible minorities. >> ukraine's foreign minister tweeted about the issue saying the government is sparing no effort to solve the problem and that the government has set up a hotline for african-american and asian students trying to leave the country. have you gotten a sense the situation has changed in the last couple of days? >> yes, i think the situation has improved but this isn't a problem that only the ukrainian government can handle. i think people have to put their foot down and help the students like that woman did yesterday.
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>> of course the wave of refugees from the middle east, north africa and afghanistan in 2015, they were treated differently back then, is europe prepared for all these refugees? >> i don't think they are prepared for all these refugees. in fact, i do believe that's why nato sounded the alarm more quickly. they're terrified of another refugee crisis on their continent. they know what happened last time. what we saw in europe was the rise in the extreme right. we saw candidates and politicians getting high-level offices in various countries, including some of these countries where these refugees headed. let's look at the eu directive yesterday passed. kimberly's done siem mazing work of getting these voices out of black and brown people trying to leave ukraine and seeing all the problems that they've faced. that eu directive does not include third country nationals. some of the countries, including poland, asked the eu to not give
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the rights to the third country nationals because of, let's face it, of racism. it's a word we must use when we talk about it. we need to get those voices out and we need to remember this is a humanitarian situation, humanity. this isn't white, black, brown. we need to remember everyone leaving is leaving to try to frokt their lives. and can i mention one other thing that really concerns me when it comes to the refugee crisis that many are talking about and something that we saw in 2015 and that's human trafficking. with the mass exodus, we're seeing warm hearts opening their homes but there are people out there. we don't know the shady people waiting across that border. i was talking to a friend who has a ukrainian american friend here, whose 21-year-old sister left for poland. he parents stayed behind to fight in ukraine and now she's alone in warsaw.
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she's terrified for her young, beautiful sister. when it comes to situations like this, there are nefarious situations waiting, waiting. >> we think the majority of people leaving ukraine are mothers with children, women with children and many of them could be very well -- very well could be victimized. how can we help make a difference? >> it's going to be hard. this is a large mass exodus. we need a work together. we need to make sure that the organizations that are on the border, whether at the unhci are irc countries involved. these countries that are turning away treating third country
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nationals not as well as ukrainians, you got to wonder what else they're not doing to help protect these refugees. we need america to get involved, other countries that are far away and not just the neighboring countries to help those neighboring countries. it's going to be hard. it's going to be difficult and there will be unfortunately some issues that we can't take care of, but we need to try our best. >> thank you both so much for being with us this morning. that wraps up the hour for me. i'm jose diaz-balart, thank you for your time. next is a special edition of "white house reports." good morning, everyone, i'm kristen welker. my partner, peter alexander is on assignment. we are following the
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