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and on that good note, i will take a deep breath and wish you a good night. thanks for staying up late. i'll see you next week. . and we are on the air live with breaking news overnight. a temporary cease-fire in two ukrainian cities to allow civilians to get to safety. conditions on the ground in ukraine grow increasingly dire. plus, any moment now, top diplomats set to neat with top polish officials as hundreds of thousands of ukrainians pour into that country. president zelenskyy with another defiant message late last night telling his people he is in the capital of kiev still as its country fights for its future.
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he will meet to talk with american lawmakers to talk about what he needs right now to put an end to this violence. >> i think i have to talk with putin. the world has to talk with putin. because there are no other ways to stop this war. plus, it's being called the first tiktok war, which can make it hard to differentiate between real video like this and the widespread disinformation that's out there. we are going to talk to an expert who says you have a job to do to prevent the flow of russia propaganda. good morning, it is saturday, march 5th. you are watching special coverage of the war in ukraine. we have a team of analysts and reporters in ukraine and around the world. as the cease-fire goes into effect, secretary of state antony blinken is arriving in poland. blinken's arrival comes as they are ramping up the pressure on russia and rushing to re-supply
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the ukrainians against the onslaught. new video into nbc news shows the devastated impact of a reported russian missile attack in northern ukraine. an entire neighborhood appears to be wiped out. this is what is left of the school, officials say was hit by a russian airstrike, absolutely decimated, as you can see. at last report, russian forces remain in control of europe's largest power plant in southeastern ukraine that they seized on friday. u.n. officials say na roadiation was released. meanwhile, ukraine's military believes the primary objective is to encircle kiev as the pre-staged combat power is inside the country. overnight, ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy criticizing nato for no no-fly zone. >> the actual way to implement a
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no-fly zone is to send ukrainian planes into airspace and shoot down russian planes. that could lead to a full fledge war n. europe, president biden has been clear that we are not going to get into a war with russia. >> that nato meeting in brussels. he is now headed to poland. as russia's assault into ukraine enters a tenth day, a massive crisis continues to escalate. according to u.n. 1.2 million people have fled to neighboring countries seeking safety. for more on all of this, we turn to correspondent mollie hunter in ukraine, allison barber in poland and josh letterman in brussels. what more can you tell us about that park temporary cease-fire, obviously, let civilians get safe passage out of ukraine. >> reporter: hey, chris, good morning. we don't know that much. it is breaking in the last
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hour-and-a-half. as you said, it is partial, them temporary and short. the cease-fire will last until 4:00 p.m. today. that's four more hours. not a lot of time for acy of 450,000, chris. the root of the corridor will be mariupol to a city close by. you can take private transport. he is pleading with members of his city to fill your carts with people, supplies, do not leave anyone behind, there is an agreed upon route everyone must travel safely on. we are awaiting more details from the mayor's office for ukrainians and the russian side, too. he says there will be several stages of this evacuation over the next several days to make sure that everyone leaves. we have not received any information on what the timings of another cease-fire might be. i want to read a short portion of the statement we got from the
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mayor of mariupol this morning. he says, this is not an easy decision. mariupol is not streets and houses, it is its inhabitants, you, me, and remains to protect people. there is no other solution and, chris, of course, i am in lviv the big city in the west, the safe haven at the moment, where people are arriving and certainly as this humanitarian corridor goes intoic, we will expect a lot more people to arrive in the west. >> i want people to know while we were literally on the air, we got the translation from president zelenskyy about exactly what we were talking about, these humanitarian quarters. they said they should start working today, women, children, elderly should be provided with mood and medicine. help is on the way, everyone who needs help should have a chance to evacuate. so again adding to that information we got as mollie said over the last hour-and-a-half that these two
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humanitarian corridors are opened now or going to be opened at some point today. allison, meantime, secretary blinken landed in poland literally moments ago. what would he see if he were to visit a border crossing there? >> reporter: he might come to a place like this. this is not far away from 21 of the border crossings, about a six-minute drive. you can see thousands of people are there. that sign in a lot of different languages saying you are here and at pun point welcome to poland, are you safe. it talks about how there will be rides to other places from here, how there is food here. there is wifi, a place to get warm a. place to charge your phones. the speakers if you hear people shouting over the crowd, they are yelling and telling people where these buses are going. not only are they going to different cities in poland him some are going as far as berlin.
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some are going to prague. as we walked around here this morning. this is the sixth border crossing. the sixth border refugee welcome center we have been to. this is one of the most organized, that is in part because the polish government started planning for this almost as soon as it looked like there might be some sort of invasion in ukraine. inside, they say they have 2,000 cots for people. you can see all of the food options for people outside here as well. the entrants to go inside is that way. if you look down here, you will see again how far the buses outside, people sitting with blankets, literally whatever they could grab as they ran for their leaves fleeing their country. we are going inside, chris, because there are thousands of people inside. 2,000 cots. that's the official count. as we walked through, we saw, three, four people sitting on the majority of the cot rotating
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out with family members to take a minute to sleep, to just pause, before they figure out where they go from here. the european union says they will give temporary protection to refugees. that means anyone fleeing ukraine, ukrainian national or a third party national who had protected status living in ukraine or a permanent resident, they can go to other countries in the eu. they can stay there for a year up to three years without having to file individual asylum claims. it is an unprecedented move, an uncommon move. a rare one that has not happened for decades, but one that for a lot of people you can see is very much needed. most people we have spoken to now six, seven, eight, nine days out, they're people coming to poland who don't necessarily know where they're going next. when we got here a week ago, we were talking to people coming here because they were going to
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stay with family or friends. in the last 24, 48 hours or so, they came here because they knew this was a place they and their children could be safe. but they don't know where they go next. >> allison, thank you. josh, obviously, president zelenskyy has been criticizing nato for rejecting a no-fly zone. this is a big debate. do you have the sense having spoken to folks in nato, having spoken to u.s. officials, that this is a line that will not be crossed over any circumstances, short of that, what kind of troop movements, material help are we seeing from nato and the u.s. right now? >> reporter: well, we heard in the most recent comments from president zelenskyy once again ramping up pressure on the west to impose a no-fly zone over ukraine. he says it's something that
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democratic populations support. here in brusselsing there is an increasing call for nato to take that step. as you alewded to, there is no appetite we are picking up to take that step. in fact, both the nato secretary general and secretary blinken saying not only sit in the interest to avoid that step. they actually have an obligation not to let the west get drawn into what blinken describes as a potentially full scale european ground war that could have ramification far beyond ukraine remember short of a no-fly zone, there are no indications the west will do that at this point in time. zelenskyy is asking for fighter jets, look, if you will not do a no-fly zone, at least give us the equipment to do it ourselves. that would come with serious risks with escalating u.s. and western involvement in this, possibly giving the russians a way to say the u.s. or nato is a
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combatant in this conflict. so we are not seeing any indication of that at this point in time. what we are seeing is nato deploy part of its rapid responsibilities force into eastern europe, into the eastern flank of nato. elements of a 40,000 strong rapid highly trained force that is going to be deploying to nato countries. not to ukraine. they are very certain they will not be fighting russians. they will be going and in fact have already started arriving in eastern european nato countries. including the three baltic nation he makes clear the u.s. will not be fighting in ukraine. they will defend every single inch of nato territory, were putin were to expand beyond ukraine, chris. >> we appreciate it. for more on this, we turn to igor novikov.
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president zelenskyy has accused nato of giving, this is a quote a green light for bombings by refusing to steve that no-fly zone. as a former adviser and someone currently in ukraine, how big a blow do you see and what more should be done by ukraine's allies to help. >> well, first of all let me explain it to you in plain terms. none of this would have happened had there been push back in russia in 2008 when they took georgia. none of this would have happened had there been sanctions and further action against russia when they annexed crimea and donbas in 2014. so he doesn't work with put were. not introducing a no-through zone, are you doing thing. are you giving putin a green light of encouragement to go further.
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now he will protect the baltic states and bulgaria. you can say he is looking at acts, not word. so far actions have been pathetic. secondly, you know, it's going to lead to a lot of disillusionist in ukraine. president zelenskyy is furious. i can see why, our kid are dying for no reason. we are successfully fighting russian forces on the ground. the air force is not being used as a fortress. they can deal against it. it's used in an indiscriminate and unprovoked ways. it is basically genocide. there are ways of doing it without getting nato involved. last but not least, look, this refugee crisis is only going to get worse. people are running from ballistic missiles and bombs. fair enough. you don't want to take down planes, biel take down ballistic missiles. we seen it in 1938 like we
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definitely are not going to war with russia over it. it doesn't mean russia is not going to go to war with nato over it. you know, so unfortunately, so far we're lost at this point. >> so let me ask you to respond to that, jack, because are there another ways besides planes to help that might not start with obviously is the concern we heard from stoltenberg. we heard it from the president. he heard it from brinken over the last couple days without starting world war iii, is there more to be done? >> yeah, there are. the sanctions we placed on russia were too little and too late. i completely agree and lots of people were talking about this back in the day, that when russia annexed crimea, we're talking about eight years ago. >> but what do we do now, jack? what do we do now? >> the full range of economic
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sanctions, that's the first thing. second, we need to be very, very quick about resupplying ukraine with any tank weapons, any acre weapons, ammunition and food. >> one of the things we know, jack is 14 wide bodied planes landed yesterday. they had guns, ammo. tell us how that helps specifically but what about the concern that without a no-fly zone it's just delaying the inevitable? >> well, it's going to be very difficult under the best of circumstance for ukraine who's army entire army is only the size of the invasion force to in a conventional war resist the russian onslaught. that's not going to happen no matter what you do otherwise. that's why check sanctions are going to exert the most pressure. in the meantime, it's important that all the supplies we can get to the ukrainian forces be done
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as quickly as possible because if you take a look at the map and realize what the russian tactical objectives are, you can see the northern part of bank of the black sea has been nearly completely taken over by russia. the sea of asov leaving a small corridor to go up between moldova and the black sea to bring needed supplies to ukrainian forces in the east. this all should have been done a long time ago. but to the extent that we have not done it, now is the time to do whatever we can to get all the supplies we can to the ukrainian forces, engaging the russians in air-to-air combat is not going to assist either the ukrainian objectives or western objectives. what is really important now is to make sure that more pressure is put on russia economically
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and eventually we might see an opportunity to have a negotiated settlement. but to engage russia now over ukraine is not going to be in either america's interest nor nato's interest. i can tell you it's unlikely to have the support of the american public, there probably is no political will to do that, grace. >> let's talk about a negotiated settlement, igor. this was a washington post op ad from michael mcfaul that says the u.s. and nato have to offer putin an off-ramp. specifically, he writes, quote, biden must nale to putin the united states and the west would be prepared to relax sanctions if he withdraws his soldiers, if he continues his slaughter, this offer ought to be withdrawn. do you support any off-ramp for putin? what do you think about the possibility anything but military might can stop this now?
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>> well, first of all, i do support an off-ramp. because i think with president putin i have reason to doubt his mental stability. so i think the way it ends it could be a potential nuclear off-ramp. what we see in russia and ukraine and globally, i don't think he's going to settle foremilitary loss, that would be the end of him. so there needs to be an off-ramp. we need to coordinate and make sure the western efforts and ukrainian efforts are rock solid. one ting i kept saying over the last couple days, look, you need to apply as much pressure as possible on your business. because at the same time putin is engaged if genocide in ukraine and the west is introducing sanctions against him. american companies are still trading and doing the same tactics in russia. look, if any americans do business in russia kind of
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doubts the circumstance i'd love to welcome them here in kiev in my house to experience the attacks first hand with russia. business from russia needs to stop. sanctions at a maximum. when all the boots are on the ground, we're looking for weapons. you are asking why president zelenskyy has left? look, there is no better safety measure than two million angry ukrainians in kiev and him. trust me. there is no army in the world that the raid through that. we need to consolidate everything, then offer and off ramp. if he doesn't take a look, we're on the path to a major conflict that need to resolve itself one way or another. i am worried about it at the moment. if the west doesn't respond %, article 5 is coming up next, very soon. >> igor novikov, jack jacob,
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thanks to both of you. up next, concerns, america could be the next target as the u.s. and ral lies ramp up sanctions. a picture worth a thousand words. what does this one say? insight from a former cia officer next.
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. back now to the breaking news in ukraine. ukrainian president zelenskyy just saying we were able to solve a humanitarian crisis. he was referring to that temporary cease-fire for two cities in order to let refugees get to safety. so that's the big news this morning. meantime, international sanctions are making russia more and more isolated and president putin is taking new steps to isolate his own people from the facts on the ground. russia has completely blocked facebook access and restricted access to twitter. that coming the same day as
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russian law lakers criminalizing any reporting the kremlin deems fake, punishable by 15 years in prison. speaking of isolation, we're seeing how isolated russian president vladimir putin has been. you see him here talking to members of his cabinet only over video conferencing. we seen pictures of putin at very long tables with his officials at the other end, sometimes one or two of them. joining us live a former cia officer and chief of the europe-eurasia mission. what do we know about what's happening inside the kremlin? all we seen are picture. we've heard some long statements from putin. but what do we really know? >> well, i think it's pretty extraordinary. you see those pictures of putin is totally isolated. not only is he not able to receive input from' one outside
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kind of his inner circle, the inner circle doesn't have direct personal access to him. this is disturbing. ordinarily in a well-functioning government, any saturday, we don't need input. he doesn't have that now even to his most trusted advisers. there seems to be reluctance. remember several days ago, it was extraordinary. the chief of the internal intelligence was dressed down by putin. i think that shocked a lot of people. even those closest are able to provide any kind of truth of what's happening. >> taking no advice from any quarter? >> that's really dangerous. particularly now, russia does have capable diplomats and intelligence officer who could give him ground truth. it doesn't seem like he wants to hear it, when europe is on edge, when there is a land plot in europe. that's not the situation we want. >> so let me ask you about these
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new steps as well, obviously, the people of russia have been getting some information, many, frankly, were getting calls from their family members who were getting ready to invade ukraine. they weren't even, some of them according to reporting didn't know they were expected to invade ukraine. but what does it mean when you see this crackdown on the media, access to information via sources like facebook and twitter completely shut down? >> well, first of all, this is not a surprise. this is what autocratic countries do. this provides us an opportunity. you know we have to, the u.s. government has to find any mens possible to pump the truth. this is not propaganda. this is truth into russia. ultimately the war is going disastrously. we hear reports of thousands of casualties. the russian people have to hear this. organically if we want to see any kind of change in russia, the russian people will rise up and ultimately, one of the
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things we will look for. you already talked about cracks in the regime it's not just the oligarchs playing. are we going to see tense of thousands of starts? the way that happens for putin, is to try to provide any means necessary of getting the truth in, the information in to get around things like how the russians block facebook and twitter. the u.s. government can do this. we should, ultimately the russian people are suffering as well from this brutal campaign that will take their country down to the stone ages. moscow is going to look like north korea soon. that's extraordinary for once proud people. >> as you said, it's not necessarily a surprise. then you have the second part of that, where you see organizations like the bbc leaving because what was passed and nbc news, there are concerns in the u.s. government about americans in russia and possible
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retaliation for american sanctions, specifically, that putin could target americans doing business in russia if they comply with u.s. sanctions. how much of a concern is that right now in. >> this is an enormous concern. it's a really important point. all right russia holds several americans necessary insurance hostage. if you are a u.s. business person doing business here, this is not a place you want to be. you want to leave. russia will arrest you on trumped-up charges. they will hold you sometimes for years on end. this is leverage they have. frankly, the u.s. embassy in moscow is operating minimal staff with almost no conflict services. there is very little we can do. so you saw the state department several days ago urge all citizens to get out. those in government would like to see this happen. these are our fellow americans. those who remained within they
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get arrested on trumped-up charges, they have a tough time ahead, sometimes years in jail. >> thank you so much. we do appreciate you taking the time and your expertise. coming up, the biden administration granting ukrainians already in the u.s. temporary protected status. that shields them from deportation for 18 months. what is behind the mixed reactions to the new policy next. y next >>
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country. >> more than a million refugees have fled ukraine to neighboring countries. >> what is the u.s. prepared to do for those fleeing prosecution in their oem country. >> given bipartisan support for ukrainians, this is an ability to do that pipeline. >> reporter: they added protective status to ukrainians in the country. not here on visas. >> we will be providing temporary status to those ukrainian nationals in the united states as of march 1st of this year. >> reporter: but the u.s. has not offered a special path for current ukranians to come to the u.s. as refugees. instead, the u.s. has sent millions in aid, food, healthcare supplies, blankets and deployed a disaster relief team to the region. >> we are providing support to the ukrainians for their fight
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for freedom, military assistance, economic assistance, humanitarian assistance. >> this policy towards refugees are under scrutiny again. over the last six months, the biden administration has flown thousands of haitians from the southern board tore haiti n. fiscal year 2021, the biden administration welcomed 11,1,100 refugees. when president obama left office, the number into the u.s. each year 110,000. by 2020 trump cut that number to 15,000. trump signing an order suspended syrian refugees into the u.s. during the country's long deadly civil war. how would you describe u.s. policy towards refugees in the last 20 years? >> the united states had been a country that provided refugee to most people in the world. that really declined. >> vaughan hilliard, thank you for that. coming up, fighting in
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ukraine growing more intense on the battlefield and online where the war is not with memes and misinformation. the role you play in what some are calling the first tiktok war.
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. this morning, the fierce battle taking place across ukraine has also spread to a battlefield online. the new yorker doing a deep dive on what is being known as the
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world's first tiktok war. quoted, large numbers of ukrainian civilians are taking up arms to fight president putin's reckless imperialism. they are documenting the invasion in granular detail. they are providing accurate, real time information, it is also spreading dangerous disinformation. that includes full fledge campaigns being waged by vladimir putin and other pro-russia actors. joining us now is christopher goldsmith a disinformation analyst and iraq veteran. thank you for being with us. how has social media changed the game? 23 have never seen anything quite like this on the one hand, you have president zelenskyy of ukraine using social media brilliantly for his cause. on the other hand, you have vladimir putin and his cronies also using it for massive disinformation. >> shock, we're in the era of
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information warfare and this isn't something that's new to the ukraine war. we've seen it since russians tried to interfere with our elections in 2016. the american people right now have a role to play. that is not simply to accept this. it's to play defense. the best way to play defense is for ukraine for the cause of democracy is to get out there and spread a positive message. spread the real news on social media. there are certain things that i've tweeted recently, things like the ghost of kiev, which we know is a myth of the ukrainian fighter pilot who has taken down 15 russian planes. go ahead and tweet those memes. the response we are getting from the russian troll farms, troll factories are we're exhausting their resources. this is something that is -- >> you are asking people to
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retweet misinformation? >> i think it's fair to tweet things like this if people see an twitter the way that i tweeted saying that this is a legend and it doesn't matter that it's not true. that gets the truth out there. we are saying it's not true. it's a legend. it forces putin's trolls to respond. when they're responding to us, to americans, that is keeping them from stopping the troops from getting out there from ukraine. it frees up the information pace for those stories, those pro democratic forces fighting to defend against the genocidal war waged by ukraine. >> do the social media companies also have a big role to play here? i have this in light of a washington post editorial suggesting in part what they
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need to do, block state-run media from any country that blocks them. to do so otherwise, prevents their citizens from hearing anyone except them speak at home. very quickly, exactly why you say, because they've had experience with the elections, twitter and facebook in many ways and other social media companies have responded quickly. but is there more they need to be doing? >> yes, so for years twitter and facebook have been labeling state-run media from russia. they've done it in this tiny little font at the bottom. it doesn't undermine the efforts of the anti-democratic propaganda that rt around sputnik and all of these other state-run media companies from russia have been spreading. they need to make sure rt or sputnik or similar state media
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company from russia is putting anything up. they need to future a watermark across their videos, across their photos, their headlines, bus that is the only way it's going to help american who's don't study misinformation, disinformation, information warfare the way that i do understand how much they're seeing pumped out of putin's you know oligarch's bank accounts. >> it is hard sometimes to distinguish. christopher, thank you so much christopher goldsmith. we appreciate it. the number of ukrainians fleeing the country is grow by the day. more than a million refugees so far. we will talk to a leader for one of the groups working to provide crucial medicare for those refugees and people stuck in ukraine. . zplmplts
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[ music playing ] let's go back to that breaking news in ukraine. the temporary cease-fire in two ukrainian cities.
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president zelenskyy saying it will allow women and children to get to safety. they expect those corridors to be opened today. the russian invasion of ukraine is a week and a half old, already it's turned 1.2 million people at least into refugees according to u.n. high commissioner for 650,000 of them, more than half, have gone to poland. hundreds of thousands of people arriving in one country in ten days. people whose lives have been upended. many of them women and by one count half of them children. because men are staying behind to fight. russia and ukraine agreed to this humanitarian corridor to allow refugees to leave the country earlier this week. friday one of the leaders of europe's world health organization praised the news as we goat a look at some of the medical supplies heading into ukraine. joining us, from poland, the executive vice president for project hope, a group focused on medical aid in crisis situations. thank you, for being with us. how long have you been on the
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ground and what are you seeing? >> thanks for having me. we got on the ground about a week ago as this was getting under way, and i arrived a few days ago, a rapidly-developing situation, the international humanitarian community and project hope are trying to mobilize as many resources as we can to get inside ukraine and being attentive to the needs here, the host countries that are taking on this massive refugee influx. >> i'm just looking at in terms of the medical, some of the things that we've seen, and hospitals being evacuated, hospitals under attack, we saw yesterday, heart breakingly a pediatric cancer ward, where they were trying to move some of these kids but others were too sick to move, what are the situations that you're seeing medically, what kind of help is needed? >> we're getting requests every day, updated news lists from hospitals across the country. there is a complete dearth of medical supplies, pharmaceuticals, they're running out of all kinds of consumables, basically everything that a
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hospital needs to be able to operate and run, including generators, electrical capacity, the ability to store and maintain pharmaceuticals, and keep a cold chain required, the needs are tremendous across the board and primary health care effectively doesn't exist in most parts of the country so it is at the hospital level that anyone is able to act at any level of care and get the kind of assistance that they need. >> important to point out there are cities where there hasn't been electricity and any water in days. let's talk about what is happening in poland though. are the hospitals there overrun? are you able to set up remote hospitals, you know, tents, hospitals, what is happening with the people who are being brought in, who have urgent medical needs? >> so they're getting help right now, we got a great partnership with krakow children's medical children's hospital, one of the largest in europe and receiving a number of patients and they received a two-pound premature-born baby that the mother brought from the eastern ukraine, on her chest, on a train, and brought it into a
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nicu, neonatal intensive care unit and now doing well and two or three patients a day from ukraine and now 60 today and the numbers are growing and only getting worse. >> what an extraordinary story, and how remarkable that baby was able to survive. look, you're someone, your organization is an organization that has seen crisis before, but what is it about this that you would want americans to know? >> the scale of it is hard to comprehend, this is a country of 45 million people, that is getting just devastated across, in so many different city, major urban area, the attack on civilian population, the threat of nuclear contamination which they have a very well understood and documented history of is extremely real. we have a medical director in the city in the east and shortly after the attack on the nuclear facility there, he decided finally after trying to stay and serve his people to get his wife
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who is due in the next two months to the west and to safety. >> wow, so the americans watching this, and you see the faces of these children, and it is absolutely heart breaking. what can you tell americans who want to help? >> well, really the best thing you can do right now is make a cash donation. there are a lot of great organizations on the ground. you can go to project hope.org and make a donation. the international community is rallying around this. we've got fantastic resources available. we need the cash to help mobilize those resources and get it in to the people that need it. >> do you have confidence, as we speak, chris, that you're going to have the resources that we need to deal with the situation at least for now, that seems to just continue to escalate? >> well, speed is essential. and the scale is so huge, it's really hard to comprehend. we don't have what we need on the ground right now. absolutely not. there's a huge warehouse behind me where we're planning this large logistical operation, the airport about an hour from here,
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behind me and the airport, the warehouse is empty. a lot of commitments, but nothing has been arriving so we need to move quickly and we need as much as we can to get it done. >> thank you for all that you and the other members of project hope are doing, and please stay safe out there. thank you so much. >> thanks for having me. thank you. coming up, not everyone is being welcomed with open arms at the border, as they try to flee ukraine. we'll explain next.
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we have breaking news right now on msnbc that temporary cease-fire for two ukrainian cities that was announced just hours ago is reportedly off. in the city of mairiupol where russia has broken the terms of the cease-fire and is shelling in the rest of the nation, and bad news for people desperately trying to get to safety. there you can see some of the children who are now refugees. molly hunter is in lviv for us. what's the latest you can tell us about this, molly? >> reporter: so when we spoke last hour, that cease-fire, that humanitarian quarter, was under way, we had heard from mariupol, and we have gotten a message on it telegram from the city council, urgent, evacuation of civilians has been postponed and we just got this, it says due to
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the fact that the russian side does not adhere to the cease-fire and continues shelling in the area. it says we ask all residents to disperse and to follow to the places of shelter. more information about the evacuation will be posted soon. it asked that, it adds that negotiations are currently under way with the russian federation. as of an hour aago, we understood that evacuations would begin and a five or six hour window, designated areas, three locations from the area, which has been surrounded, and been hammered by fire power in the last several days. there are three locations that buss would leave from and private cars would also be allowed to leave. as of an hour ago, the city council and the mayor was begging people who were driving in private cars to fill their cars with people, with supplies so no one was left behind and it looks like as of a couple of minutes ago, that all may be changing, we will keep you posted. that was one of the big things of course that we're talking about, will there be a
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humanitarian corridor

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