it says we ask all residents to disperse and to follow to the places of shelter. more information about the evacuation will be posted soon. it asked that, it adds that negotiations are currently under way with the russian federation. as of an hour aago, we understood that evacuations would begin and a five or six hour window, designated areas, three locations from the area, which has been surrounded, and been hammered by fire power in the last several days. there are three locations that buss would leave from and private cars would also be allowed to leave. as of an hour ago, the city council and the mayor was begging people who were driving in private cars to fill their cars with people, with supplies so no one was left behind and it looks like as of a couple of minutes ago, that all may be changing, we will keep you posted. that was one of the big things of course that we're talking about, will there be a humanitarian corridor, will

there be a route and will all of those people eventually be coming to lviv where i number the west. >> and we will come back to if you get any more information about that. let's me go to poland where ellison barber is standing by and in the last hour, we were able to get a translation from the ukrainian president zelenskyy who said we were able to solve a humanitarian crisis with these two corridors, and part of the statement again that he made said that they should start working today, including in maiupol so women, children and the elderly can be provided with food and medicine and have safe passage and many of those people standing behind you. >> yes, it would be a huge development, because when we talked to people here, they talk about how much people they left people, or people who could not get out, how much help they still need. i was speaking to a woman earlier, she is actually still standing here in the purple and she talked to me how she left

eastern ukraine, she grabbed these bags and that is her entire life in just three bags. she talked to us about how so many people still need help, and they are still in the country, she talked about that, about their being issues of people getting food, and water and stores are closed and it's not safe to go out and about, if you are still in ukraine. she fled and had to come here, by train. inside here, there are more people, with stories similar to hers. this facility, they say, they have about 2,000 cots here, inside, it looks like they're at least 3,000 people waiting here, the goal of this officials say is to kind of welcome about 2,000 people every day, and get them out of this area, and load them on to buses, so they can go to other cities, in poland or other countries, to germany, berlin, or to the czech republic, to prague, everyone we talked to, and this cannot be said enough, when we're talking about refugees, people who have been forced to flee their homes,

none of them wanted to leave, every single one of them, they want to go back home, they hope they can, but particularly when you see this, when they're older, like that 68-year-old woman, they tell us they think it's possible they may never be able to return to the country that they love so very much. >> that's extraordinarily heartbreaking. one of the things that has moved so many of us, and you mentioned the trains that people had to get on to and the chaos that ensued, people just pushing and shoving, i saw one of richard engel's reports yesterday, children holding, a parent holding up a baby, trying to get into, through the crowd, to get on a train, to get out, and potentially get to places like where you are. and yet, even though with all of the people, and you know, thousands of them streaming in every day, it seems like pretty quickly they've gotten organized, that they've gotten organized in a way for people to get there, gotten organized in a way for people to get some sleep, and getting buses in. >> yes, i mean look, more work

needs to be done, but when we will move a little this way to show you how organized this west side is, when you look down here, on this board, it is in a lot of different languages, right now it's in english, and it shows and explains a series of things. the first message is welcome to poland, you are safe here. and then it goes into what is offered here, the resources that are available, that there are beds inside, there is medical care, if needed, there is food, there is wi-fi, and there is transportation for people. but this is the sixth border crossing, the sixth refugee welcome center we have been to, and it is by far the most organized. this is not the case everywhere, from what we have seen, and in other places, a little further north of here, it is mostly a volunteer-led effort, a make-shift effort of people who have brought what they can and doing what they can and a lot of places don't have buses like this, and a big issue, a big struggle for them is

coordinating transportation for people, who need to go either further into poland or other countries and a lot of that, outside of this site, chris, has been entirely volunteer led. >> thank you so much for that ellison, it was an extraordinary yesterday, and josh lederman, let me go to you in brussels, yesterday, my understanding is that at that meeting, one of the things that we saw, with the picture that has become ubiquitous, it's a dad who is bent over the body of his teenaged son, covered with bloodstained sheet, and one of the things that the nato secretary general said, you know, this is what these conversations are about, this is what we must never forget, that the people on the ground, how their lives are being displaced, i don't know if we have it, but if we do, can we go to just one example of a family, who are just now, as they're trying to flee their country, are holding

on to whatever they can, take a listen. >> i'm going to tell my mom that i will go to, i will go, i was crying, and you may never see me again. it was so scary, the most scary words i've said in my life. >> absolutely breaks your heart to hear these stories, josh, over and over and over again, and i know it was the subject of discussion, obviously, they see the numbers and they see the coverage as well, the question that comes, the ongoing debate about what nato does about it. talk about what is happening now, in terms of the aid that nato is giving and that ongoing fight about whether or not they should enforce a no-fly zone. >> yes, secretary of state antony blinken was here in brussels yesterday, actually got

a little bit emotional as he was describing being showed some of those images, that you were just describing, but despite the mounting pressure for nato and the u.s., to intervene militarily, to actually put a no-fly zone over ukraine, that is not going to happen, according to the u.s., and nato, but what they can do, and are doing, is sending weapons, lethal weapon ry to the ukrainians, to use against the russians. in the last few day, we've seen the dam break in terms of reluctance to arm the ukrainians. i remember back to the 2014 russian incursion when the u.s. was having this massive debate over whether they even sent basic stuff like night vision goggles to the ukrainians and now you see these weapons pouring in, president bide been a week ago authorized $350 million in security assistance to ukraine. the pentagon now says almost all of that has arrived in ukraine, and this is not little stuff. we're talking about javelin anti-tank weapons, including some that the ukrainians used in

the first days against some of the tanks that were at the front of that convoy that is currently sitting north of kyiv. we're talking about stinger missiles that can be used to shoot down russian airplanes. anti-armor equipment as well as ammunition. so that weaponry is flowing in. but one of the real challenges is the u.s., and these other nato members have, in trying to get this assistance to ukraine right now, how do you get it safely in the country, particularly when the air space is contested, there's no clear indication of where or when it is safe to use certain roads, because we're seeing just from what molly was describing, about this latest humanitarian corridor being called off for now, because of continued shelling. so there are immense logistical challenges for all of these countries, including the eu, which is now financing ukrainian weapons for the first time, germany sending hundreds of anti-aircraft missiles, to the ukrainians as well. and dealing with really tough

challenges, and finding safe ways to get that equipment into the country. >> josh, thank you so much for that. and should you get any reaction to this, what is apparently a breaking of that cease-fire, by russia, just let us know and we'll go back to you. one thing we haven't even mentioned this hour, is obviously, the problems they're having with the nuclear plant, and the attack there, the largest nuclear plant in europe, is in ukraine, it is now under russian control, and for more on all of this, we want to talk to joe, a nuclear security analyst and general mark, a former assistant secretary of state. general, let me start with what we just saw happen, only a matter of hours, after we heard from the ukrainian president, in his latest address, saying, we were able to solve a humanitarian crisis. we are hearing from the city council in mariupol, that the cease-fire has been broken by the russian side, what does that mean? are you surprised? >> i'm not the least bit

surprised. cease-fires rarely hold. humanitarian corridors rarely stay open. and when you're fighting an adversary like russia, who is brazen about their unwillingness to adhere to international standards, this is not the most surprising news i've heard at all. >> you know the frustration, you've heard and seeing some of the pictures of president zelensky, who has been clear and i assume will be clear again when he speaks to members of u.s. congress later today, via video link, he is going to say we need that no-fly zone, you're heading for disaster, adding on to what he said yesterday, that europe is threatened, especially with what we saw at the largest nuclear plant in europe. talk to me about your thoughts, general, about the no-fly zone, and if not that, what more can nato and the u.s. be doing right now. >> well, let me precede that

answer by saying i think the u.s. ought to be throwing more weapons into ukraine right now, not less. this land route from other countries, into kyiv, is going to be closed down pretty soon. so we need to get as many weapons in there as possible. on the other hand, while it sounds good, a no-fly zone will not make a huge difference. at this point, we've got to understand that the cities are being shelled by rockets, by artillery, by missiles, that is not something that is delivered by an airplane. an airplane can drop one or two rockets at a time. or some ordnance, but the vast majority of killing is being done by weapons that wouldn't be affected one way or the other by a no-fly zone. now it's true that the no-fly zone might protect these ground convoys of the weapons, but given that this area right here, around kyiv, will probably be

closed down pretty soon, again, and there's no significant upside for a no-fly zone and a tremendous amount of down side. >> let's talk about the russian forces that shelled europe's largest nuclear plant in ukraine early friday before taking control of it. now there's word that they're coming close to a second nuclear plant. how concerned should we be that russia has control of this facility, and about the situation with nuclear plants there in general? >> we should be very concerned. while some of our officials in the u.s. energy department are downplaying the risk, the u.n. ambassador at the u.n. accurately stated it, we narrowly averted a nuclear catastrophe the other day. the director general of the iaea is extremely concerned. he says there is a severe risk of a catastrophe. it is two-fold. one is damage to even the containment structures. we're now learning it is being reported that an artillery shell did hit one of the concrete

barriers around the nuclear reactor at this plant, did do some damage and we're also worried about a loss of energy, if electricity to these plants are cut off, then the pumps system goes down, the water won't be allowed to cool the reactors and you could be looking at a fukushima-style meltdown of these facilities. and then you have the problem of the spent fuel rods in cooling pond, unprotected, large structures outside near the power plant, if those ponds leak, then the water drained, again, you will have a melt down, and it leaves clouds of radio active debris that could contaminate hundreds, even thousands of square kilometers. this is a severe risk. this is why there are international conventions against doing this. this is why no one has ever attacked a nuclear plant before. and here, the russians are shelling it. heavy caliber machine gun power, sending flares into the facility, i can't overstate what a severe danger this presents to the people of ukraine.

>> beyond dangerous and destructive decision that could be made by vladimir putin, there is an expert on these kinds of issues who is quoted in "the new york times" saying this, the thing you worry about is an ignorant soldier who is scared and fires off a rocket or mortar that causes a calamity. as we see indications that russian troops are moving toward a second nuclear facility in ukraine, is that a legitimate concern as well, beyond putin? >> certainly. some of the greatest accidents in war happen from miscalculation or mistakes. that's one of the grave dangers that a single incident could cause events on the ground to spiral out of control. >> one of the things, joe, that has been talked about, is whether or not there is any kind of off-ramp for vladimir putin. what can we offer him, one thought is if you do x, we start

to roll back the sanctions, we've seen what happened to the ruble, we've seen how the stock markets there closed down, do you see at this point where we are any kind of diplomatic off-ramp that can de-escalate what we're seeing? >> you're absolutely right there, has to be an off-ramp. this is not going to end with putin's surrendering or being called, he has to be offered a way out of this crisis, meaning there is some diplomatic compromise that gives him some of what he wants as painful as that might be and part of that as you indicate while we're putting the sanctions on, we have to show the way out of sanctions is, and if you pull out of ukraine, will that stop the sanctions, that has to be clearly stated, who can negotiate such a diplomatic off-ramp, we have the european, french president macron is talking to them, we know the state department has been talking quietly to the chinese, and they play an intermediary role here, but that is the only way this crisis can end. and we have to get our state

department completely ramped up to be able to explore as many possibilities as possible, to get putin on back down, even if that allows him to safe face. >> thank you, gentlemen, we appreciate it. up next, we will go live to the largest children's hospital in ukraine where kids with cancer are being treated in the basement as fighting continues in kyiv. es in kyiv. riders, the lone wolves of the great highway. all they need is a bike and a full tank of gas. their only friend? the open road. i have friends. [ chuckles ] well, he may have friends, but he rides alone. that's jeremy, right there! we're literally riding together. he gets touchy when you talk about his lack of friends. can you help me out here? no matter why you ride, progressive has you covered with protection starting at $79 a year. well, we're new friends. to be fair. eh, still.

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let's go back to that breaking news, officials in mariupol ukraine accusing russia of violating a temporary cease-fire and halted the evacuation of refugees there. by one count, half a million ukrainian refugees are children. maybe more. the largest children's hospital in ukraine is refusing to pause its treatment of kids with cancer in kyiv. hospital staff now even moving patients to the basement to

protect them. we have a doctor who lives there and works in the hospital and has been living there with her husband and two young daughters since the second day of the ware. thanks for joining us. first of all, how are you and how are your kids doing? >> we seem to have her signal freezing. we're going to take a quick break and we will be right back and hope to re-establish connection with her. and hope to re-establish connection with her. small businesses are fed up with big bills and 5g maps that are mostly gaps— they're switching to t-mobile for business and getting more 5g bars in more places. save over $1,000 when you switch to our ultimate business plan... ...for the lowest price ever. plus, choose from the latest 5g smartphones— like a free samsung galaxy s22. so switch to the network that helps your business do more for less—join the big switch to t-mobile for business today.

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still there, how many of them are being moved out, what's the latest? >> on this day, our ability to treat children is very difficult, but we are moving patients as much as we can, and nearly 70% of the patients, they are continuing their treatment in poland and they were able to leave. we have some supplies and limited medicines, so now, it is stable. >> so there is some good news, but what have you been seeing, what have you been hearing, in terms of the ongoing danger from attack and how long can you sustain where you are right now in the way that you're able to treat these patients, these very sick patients, too sick to send

to poland? >> we will stay with the patients as long as it will be possible, and i want to take a moment to look at their conditions, and their stability, we will send them if they're stable, i don't know how long we can stay here, because there is war, and we hear sounds of shooting all the time, so it is unpredictable at this moment. >> please, continue. sorry to interrupt you, go ahead. >> and also, sick patients, oncology patients, in the basement, it is impossible, yes, because a small infection can kill a patient, but we have no other choice, but to stay in the

basement, and treat them there. >> have you lost patients, do you believe, because of the situation that they had to be moved, or you simply weren't able to give them the kind of -- >> yes? >> yes? >> we lose them. and we hope not to lose them in the future. we have treatment, and we have infection in treatment, so we don't move them right now, but it's impacting their future life, so we don't know how it will be in the future, and can they finish treatment, and we are looking at infection and other steps of the treatment. we don't know about the patient right now who are underen

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by nbc appears to show military officials pointing guns at refugees, even as they raise their hands. alexander was there. he says officials at multiple borders turned refugees of color away. >> i asked, i don't see you checking passports. i see you letting white people in. >> how would you describe what is happening at the border? >> i don't know how to describe it other than racism. >> more distressing video shows officials denying entry on a train. tensions else where are escalating. >> we were here for more than two hours. >> women and children, to cross the border, they don't allow -- >> what about men. >> they allow men. >> united nations confirmed that non-european refugees have faced discrimination and after failed attempts to cross, he and others stormed past the border and then

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you're looking at a live picture from poland and there is secretary of state antony blinken and he is going to be having a press conference with the foreign minister of poland, and there are developments overnight including that cease-fire, which officials in

mariupol has been broken. let's listen for just a second. i'm not sure if he's speaking in english, in polish, let's take a listen. >> the most important situation arising from the ongoing conflict between russia and ukraine, poland's two eastern neighbors. both are polish, american, and allied cooperation, with nato, as well as for the coordination of political activities. poland will never recognize territorial transition brought about by unprovoked aggression. the way in which russia conducts hostilities, based on the desire to break the will of ukrainian resistance, by means of attacks that terrorize civilian populations, shelling

residential areas, nuclear power plants, and nonmilitary fields, are war crimes under international law, which are not subjected to statute of limitations. and will be persecuted with utmost determination. i call on russia to refrain attacks on civilian populations. i call both parties to abide by international humanitarian law and to treat prisoners of war with dignity. turning over all war criminals must be considered in future peace negotiations. due to its own painful experience in the past, poland will consequently demand persecuting war criminals. at this hour, with the historic

situation, sacrifices can never be forgotten. pursuing war criminals is an element of human kind's way. it is our obligation. to achieve this, poland's center for war crimes in ukraine, we discuss possibilities for polish-american cooperation in this area. i call for an end of the bloodshed and the cease-fire for the duration of the situation between ukraine and russia. in my capacity, my term in office, i welcome an understanding for re-creation of humanitarian corridors which

will create an evacuation of civilians from ukraine, as citizens under siege. along with a majority of oec companies, i appeal for this exit out of the contract. i view this understanding as a ray of hope to prevent more ukrainian civilians from falling victim to war. everything positive must be done to ensure an evacuation. russia's aggression in ukraine causes a humanitarian crisis of an unimaginable scale. our priorities, organizing effective aid to hundreds of thousand, and soon to be millions of refugees. poland's already received up to

700,000 refugees and will continue to do so, for everyone that needs it. regardless of race, nationality or religious creed. the attack on ukraine affects europe and its sense of security. poland decided to immediately increase its defense spending budget to 3% of its gdp, beginning next year. as a key country for defending the nato eastern flank, poland has welcomed the alliance's swift reaction to a renewed strategy and circumstances. and conveyed to secretary blinken my thanks to president biden for his effective leadership in coordinating an

explicit united and effective response from the community and respond to russia's aggression. as a host country for nato response force, on the eastern flank, poland plays a critical role in this reaction, and we are determined to abide by it. in line with the charter of the united nations, poland will provide all possible support to ukraine, who is currently defending itself, from an unlawful attack, unprovoked aggression. thank you. >> secretary blinken? >> thank you. i want to thank you, as always, for a very good exchange, for the very warm welcome, and we were just at nato together, we were in washington together,

just a few weeks ago, and it's very good to be here with you. i'm also especially pleased that the ambassador is now here in poland, credentialed last month, the timing could not be better. it's final that we have all of our confirmed ambassadors in place at this critical time. and we are in fact meeting at one of the most urgent moments in the long history of friendship between our countries. as allies and partner, poland and the uns have stood together through many, many challenges. now, the very ideals that bind us, freedom, democracy, peace, security, are under threat in this region, as never before. certainly not since the second world war. the people of poland know how important it is to defend freedom, so do americans. and we will stand together as we've been standing together, in support of ukraine, and against

russia's unprovoked, unwarranted, pre-meditated invasion. and nato, and the european union, the chair in office this year, poland is doing vital work to respond to this crisis. it's hosted an increased nato presence. it's supported the robust eu sanctions against russia. and it has done a great deal to facilitate security assistance to ukraine. as nato allies, defense cooperation between poland and the united states, i think it's safe to say is closer than it's ever been. since january 30th, the united states has more than doubled the number of our military personnel deployed in poland, to now more than 10,000 including a brigade of the 82nd airborne division. and we see increased amount of military types and equipment and capabilities that we positioned in poland. as pred biden has said, we -- as president biden has said, we

will defend every inch of nato territory. poland is also a leading responder to the humanitarian crisis that russia's invasion of the ukraine has sparked. as was just said, as of today, more than 700,000 people have been forced to flee the violence perpetrated by russia, by crossing the boarder from ukraine to poland. with more coming every single day. i have the opportunity to speak to some of the folks who come over, just recently, from ukraine, but i have to say, it's an incredibly powerful reflection, poland's values, that vulnerable people know that here, they will find refuge. ukrainians in poland and other country, the biden administration just requested of congress $2.5, excuse me $2.75 billion in humanitarian assistance. that's both to meet the need of vulnerable people and communities inside ukraine as well as to support refugee services including here in

poland. that's in addition to the more than $54 million in humanitarian assistance to ukraine that we announced just last week. we also sent a disaster assistance response team to poland, working very closely with humanitarian agencies, to provide the critical health care, safe drinking water, sanitation, hygiene supplies, protection, for vulnerable people, especially women and children. we delivered nearly 20,000 thermal blankets, suited for cold climates, we provided funding for emergency supplies to sustain health care for up to 100,000 people, for three months, and up to 500 emergency surgical procedures. embassy kyiv has temporarily relocated to poland as well and i'm grateful for that, that poland is hosting them. they, and our embassies and consulates in poland and across the region are working hard to assist american citizens and their families departing ukraine and to help them with the influx of u.s. military personnel, humanitarian workers, as well as

assistance. we established a u.s. welcome center close to the ukrainian border operating 24/7, we have support teams as well stationed near the border in romania, hungary, slovakia, moldova, to assist any americans leaving ukraine. at this moment of crisis for millions of ukrainians, and as the security of europe hangs in the balance, poland has stepped forward with generosity, with leadership, with resolve. we're grateful for the strong foundation of friendship and cooperation that we built together over many, many decades. which so many now are relying on today. thank you. >> thank you very much. time for some pictures. please. >> so we were told this might be a press conference but obviously there is going to be no questions even though we have a full audience there of

journalists but you heard them both pledging mutual support as well as support for the people of ukraine. i want to go to congresswoman debbie wasserman schultz who had been listening in along with us. it's good to see you. thank you for getting up early with us. >> good to see you. >> you are in a state that understanding what it is like for people to flee their country, you understand what it is like for people who feel like they have to re-establish life somewhere else, not all of them are necessarily fleeing war but fleeing what they feel is a dangerous situation. let me ask you first, in terms of the tragedy, the humanitarian tragedy we're seeing unfold, congresswoman, and yes we have support teams there, yes we have provided many millions of dollars in aid, yes, you just heard the secretary of state talking about the u.s. welcome center and the services that they provide, and temporary protective status has been given to ukrainians here in the united states, but is that enough? i spoke to a young woman yesterday, who happened to be visiting her family in ukraine, she and her mother fled with

their lives, her father and brother are still there, and she wants to be able to bring her mother home with her to chicago. are we doing enough to help with this refugee crisis? should we be accepting refugees? >> thank you for having me. i will tell you that i have had a sickening knot in my stomach, for the last week, this is just an unprecedented atrocity, for, in the 21st century, for a nuclear power like russia to launch an unprovoked invasion with no threat whatsoever to their country or their citizens well-being, there aren't words in the dictionary to describe the depth of the horror and outrage that putin has unleashed. and you're right, i do represent a community that has really tens of thousands of people who have

fled countries, and that are you a tock -- autocracies that brutalize their own people and the concern is in our hemisphere is putin is lurking in the shadows like cuba and venezuela, propping up dictators and the advance that he is engaged in now is threatening the region there and you are potentially going to see other countries, if we don't stop his advance. other countries, jeopardized as well. and we feel that over here, not only from my constituents, who have fled situations like this, but also because putin really has very aggressive ambitions, and i strongly believe that president biden has really unified the world, i'm thankful about the sanctions that are just the beginning, and we are

going to continue to make this as horrendously difficult for putin and his economy and sadly his people as he rolls into ukraine. >> >> do you think we need to reconsider whether or not we let some refugees into the united states? do we need to open our borer cans, the way we have seen so many european countries, even you know this well, countries that have had a difficult relationship with refugees coming into their country who are now saying we are accepting these people with open arms. does the united states need to try to do more for these refugees? >> we are to be more. i know that i get calls from constituents who have relatives in ukraine n my office every single day and we're working closely with the immigration services and the state department to try to bring those people who are in danger, who have familial ties here to the

united states i'm confident our humanitarian assistance is at the early stages and the united states will continue under president biden to rally the world to isolate putin and continue to make him, marginalize him for the pariah that he is. >> there are some of your colleagues on the hill going to be meeting via teleconference with president zelenskyy. earlier he touted the humanitarian corridors established in two cities in ukraine and mariupol. they are saying russia broke its cease-fire. they are difficult to hold under war conditions but given that, what would you anticipate that conversation to be like? a logical conclusion will be that president zelenskyy will

get on the phone and make his case again perhaps even more forcefully than he did after the breach of the nuclear facility and say we need you to help us establish a no fly zone. we need more now from you, from nato and from the united states. >> well, this week, we are getting ready to appropriate $10 billion in emergency aid to ukraine, which will include military and humanitarian assistance, and you know, chris, the issue of the no fly zone, the protector in me, i'm a woman who on both sides of my family, my great grandparents emigrated from what was then russia but now kyiv and odesaodesa, i have familial ties over the last generations to this region. it breaks my heart, but in this day and age with russia being a

nuclear power, the united states being a nuclear power, nato allies in a no fly zone situation as secretary blinken said yesterday, my instinct is yes, we should do that, do everything we can and then you take a step back and realize that we would likely end up in world war iii, because if you establish a no fly zone, then inevitably, we're going to be in a position where the united states and our nato allies would be shooting down russian planes and the consequences of that even though that would be deserved are, really have to be thought through and would be devastating. so other than that at the moment, we have to make sure -- because we can't, we cannot launch world war iii. i think everybody has to really take a step back and pause and think about what the impact of that would be. what we do have to do is do everything we can to put a chokehold on putin himself and continue to make sure that the

ukrainian people have resources that they need militarily and especially, so that they can fight back. their bravery has been remarkable. i'm very pleased to see that poland, which has had some rule of law issues of late is stepping up in a significant way, and being the refuge that they need, that nato allies need to be. i think the story is just unfolding and we need to make sure that we do everything we can to help the ukrainian people who have the resolve and the resilience to defend themselves, be able to push back putin out of their borders. >> debbie wasserman schultz, thank you for being with us this morning. we appreciate you. we'll be right back. even in a little seedling. which, when turned into fuel, can help power a plane. at chevron's el segundo refinery,

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>> as we look at those faces new word from the u.n., they upped the estimate of refugees to 1.3 million. thank you for watching "msnbc reports." i'm chris jansing. i'll be back here tomorrow at 5:00 a.m. eastern. "velshi" starts right now. good morning. i'm ali velshi. it is 7:00 a.m. in the eastern time zone of the united states from which i normally broadcast but right now, i'm in hungary near the border crossing in ukraine. it's 1:00 in the afternoon here right now and for the past ten days, tens of thousands of people from ukraine have crossed along this border to flee the war. their lives have been reduced to what they're able to carry with them and many are embarking on a journey without knowing for sure what their final destination will be or when they'll be