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tonight's breaking news lead, state of emergency. just minutes ago president zelenskyy addressed ukrainians, calling on them to never surrender. mean while our government is pleading with americans still in russia to get out immediately. ukraine's president is asking our leaders for more help and the world continues trying to reason with vladimir putin. some major cities have already been taken by russian forces. the human cost growing by the day. this morning israel's prime minister met with putin over security concerns for its citizens caught up in the conflict and as fighting

continues, here in the u.s. our state department warned americans still in russia to leave while they still can. more than 300 of our federal lawmakers met by video with ukraine's president zelenskyy this morning as congress considers $10 billion in aid for ukraine. another intense week for the world. we begin in ukraine. let's go to nbc's kyle perry out of lviv ukraine. thousands of refugees arriving from other cities to lviv by trains and buses. what is the latest dispatch from where you're seeing on the ground there. >> reporter: what we're seeing is the war has arrived. it's arrived in the form of

these refugees who are scared and confused and they don't know where to go. they're fleeing now some of the worst fighting we've seen just in the week this war has started. the eastern part of the country has seen a dozen or so villages, towns and some cities being heavily bombarded by russian troops. there was talk of some humanitarian corridors, but the cease fire didn't hold, the bombardment didn't stop. we're talking about cities that have had the power cut, the water cut, that doesn't have heat. a population of 1.2 million refugees already have left ukraine. that does not account for the internally displaced people. it does not account for the world food program saying at least 5 million ukrainians are now food dependent. >> do you get the sense the

diplomatic efforts are having any impact on the fighting? >> reporter: no. it actually seems to be the reverse. we've had two rounds of talks along the border with belarus and russia with ukrainian officials. nothing came of them. they talked about the framework for a cease fire. the cease fire fell through. on the other side of the diplomatic spectrum, you have appeals from the ukrainian president to do something. but nato is not going to put a no-fly zone over this country because they're worried that could result in world war iii. we may see a third round of talks on monday. again, we heard even from the ukrainian delegation that the route to the peace talks was being bombed when the peace talks were happening. if you can't even drive down the road to get to the talks, it makes you wonder why the talks are happening. >> thank you.

nbc's kyle perry in ukraine. joining me now is senator gary peters, a democrat of michigan. he is a member of two important committees, chairman of homeland security and member of armed services. senator, earlier this morning you joined a bipartisan, bicameral zoom meeting with president zelenskyy of ukraine. we understand he told you and your colleagues that he would stay in ukraine and fight. we also understand the most pressing ask that he made during the nearly one-hour call was to impose a no-fly zone in ukraine. tell us your sense of that meeting, senator. >> absolutely, reverend sharpton. you're right, we had a call with president zelenskyy. he is an incredibly courageous individual, an inspiration.

certainly all of the ukrainian people are an inspiration as they all stand together for freedom and fight back against the horrible illegal aggression by mr. putin and we are all watching it in realtime on television. president zelenskyy was appreciative of the military support that has been provided by the united states and nato to this point, but he did ask for us to go beyond that to a no-fly zone or if not a no-fly zone, provide aircraft that could be used. he mentioned some of the older aircraft that is in some of our nato allies, aircraft that his pilots know how to fly. they would be able to take those aircraft and use them to defend his country. that's certainly a powerful appeal by the president this morning. >> senator, briefly, two republican senators on the call today senator marco rubio of florida and steve danes of montana are facing criticism for sharing photos of the ukrainian

president on social media after they were specifically asked not to for security reasons. are you worried some of your republican colleagues are not taking this crisis seriously enough? >> well, certainly they have to take it seriously. this is a very, very serious situation. i hope that we can get beyond any kind of partisan politics and understand this is where the american people have to come together as one. traditionally when we are in a crisis overseas, any kind of partisanship should end at the water's edge. we need to be united and understand this is basically a battle for freedom. this is a battle for democracy versus autocracy and a dictatorship, which mr. putin represents. this is what happens when you have a dictator. this is what happens when you have a country that doesn't have democratic oversight of their

leadership. we need to be united. we have to be that beacon of light on the hill that is shining brightly for democracy. united states leadership is needed now more than ever. >> senator, russian president vladimir putin says he has put his country's nuclear deterrence forces on high alert. earlier this week we saw russian forces shell a major ukrainian nuclear power plant. how concerned are you about the threat of nuclear escalation as this conflict wears on? >> well, i think it's reasonable to be concerned. clearly with that attack on the nuclear power plant is completely irresponsible to have that kind of attack on a facility that can create such devastation if destroyed. it shows that we're dealing, i think, with a leader here that is not acting in a rational basis whatsoever. it's clearly a concern when it

comes to the nuclear threat. one area i'm particularly focused on as chairman of the homeland security committee, that's the cyber security threat. i think we also need to be prepared for attacks against the united states and our allies by russia in the cyber domain. that could also be very problematic for critical infrastructure. we have to treat this crisis with incredible seriousness. the stakes are high. when you have a country like russia with a significant both nuclear and cyber capabilities, the threat goes beyond any one particular border. >> very serious matters, indeed. thank you, senator gary peters. now to the humanitarian crisis. over 1 million people have fled ukraine to seek refugee. as they leave ukraine's borders, they are met with organizers and volunteers of the world central kitchen, ready to serve them hot

meals of enduring brutal conditions as they attempt to escape a war zone. joining me is nate mook in lviv, ukraine. thank you for joining me today. >> thank you so much for having me, rev. >> you've been posted outside of lviv railway station, preparing hot meals for arriving refugees. you've been out there during the day and during late nights. can you describe to our viewers what you've been seeing firsthand? >> yeah. you know, viv in the western part of ukraine has become a bit of a humanitarian center for those families leaving the attacks in the east. so every day more and more families, many women and children are arriving to this train station. it is overwhelming the thousands and thousands of people that are

coming off these trains into lviv. many women and children then end up in an area where they can rest. we're providing hot meals there. in some cases, this is their first meal they've had in days. we're also serving meals outside. it is very cold in ukraine right now so we're providing hot soups and other meals for those families and individuals as they're coming off the trains. now, from here, they're ending up basically having to figure out what's next. the city of lviv has set up a center at the stadium here that's run entirely by volunteers to identify accommodation, although here in lviv everything is pretty much full here. as the situation deteriorates we're going to see more and more people streaming this way. many are trying to get across the border into poland and other countries, but it really is

starting to get desperate and food supplies are starting to run low here. we're hearing from our suppliers and partner restaurants that are preparing meals that within days we need to get more supplies in. we're focused right now on trying to get trucks and convoys through a humanitarian corridor from poland to get food here in lviv to handle this surge in refugees and internally displaced people coming from across ukraine. >> the world central kitchen has been stationed around different border crossings around ukraine, poland, romania, hungary, moldova and slovakia. from your own experience greeting these refugees, where are people hoping to go next? >> you know, unfortunately, many families don't know what's next. they've had to abandon their lives. they don't know how long they're going to be gone.

they don't know if peace is going to come soon or they may never even get to go back home. there is so much uncertainty in the situation, it is heartbreaking. we have teams through eight border crossings in poland, in moldova, romania, hungary and beyond, trying to make their lives just a little bit better while they are going through this tragic experience. the reality is that it's just unknown right now. we met a young woman, she had a great job in kyiv, she had a new apartment she was looking to decorate, just like so many of us. she's had to leave it. she doesn't know what she's going to do for work. she doesn't know if she's going to get back to her apartment. these are over 1.3 million stories now. we're just trying to make things just a little bit easier for folks as they're going through this really difficult time.

>> i know of many organizations working together with the world central kitchen. as you know, during the pandemic you worked with national action network and i. we fed over a million people in our partnership in harlem. in fact, one of my producer's father is the largest distributor of eastern european spirits in the u.s. mid atlantic region. he has announced that all profits from ukrainian bottles sold in baltimore bars will be donated to your organization of the world central kitchen. who else has reached out to help support your organization? and what are can people who are unable to physically go volunteer, what can they do to help? >> it's a great question. as you said, we did incredible work together during the pandemic. world central kitchen, we rely on such incredible support. we're not funded by the

government or anybody else. it's all individuals coming together, businesses donating to make this work possible. you can support our work at wck.org. follow us and our founder chef jose andres on twitter. we're posting on instagram, facebook, twitter. we couldn't do this work without our incredible partners on the ground. we have dozens of restaurants serving meals, we have food trucks in poland and other countries. this is the food community coming together to support ukraine. we're just here to be that conduit to bring everybody together to make this work possible. we're so grateful for all the support and we hope to continue to make a difference as long as we're needed here. coming up, congress considers spending billions in aid to ukraine. my panel joins me next to talk about why this may be the issue

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we've come from several days of meetings with nato, the european union, countries beyond the g7. we see that support not only continue, security support, humanitarian support, economic support, but that support will increase. as to the pressure on russia, not only is it unprecedented, not only is it producing very, very concrete results in russia, but that pressure too will not only continue, it will grow until this war, this war of choice is brought to an end. >> welcome back to "politics nation." let's continue our conversation on the ukraine crisis with my political panel. joining me now is michelle goldberg, columnist for the "new

york times," and also david jolly, former congressman from florida. michelle, let's start with the meeting between ukrainian president zelenskyy and the senate this morning. this comes as the house is expected to debate a $10 billion aid package to ukraine in the coming days. meanwhile, many americans are warming up to the leader since russia invaded ukraine. according to the latest economist poll, 44% are in favor and 16% view him unfavorably. how does zelenskyy's popularity help ukraine? also, could continued aid to the ukraine, one of these rare issues where there's broad bipartisan agreement on the hill, can it be impacted by this? >> look, i don't think you can overstate the role that zelenskyy's personal heroism and

sort of every man charisma has had in rallying the world to his side. you know, a week and a half ago, two weeks ago, i think there was a consensus that there would be sanctions on russia, but that they wouldn't be crushing. nobody was talking about picking russia out of the swift system. you certainly didn't have major brands pulling out of russia. what zelenskyy has done, if people haven't seen the footage of the crowds last night in prague and georgia and germany out to rally for zelenskyy and rally for ukraine and a huge monitor with him speaking to the crowd. you know, people have been so hungry for both heroism and for somebody really standing up for democracy after years when people have been so cynical about it, it's been decayed and embattled. to see what zelenskyy and people

around him are willing to risk in its defense, i think, has reminded people what they believe in. it's tempting to be cynical about some of these republicans who defended donald trump when he blackmailed zelenskyy. frankly, i'm just glad most of them are now on the right side, that the pro putin wing of the republican party is being marginalized and there really is a political consensus for helping ukraine. >> david, there might be some agreement between the parties regarding russia, but inside the republican party there's a rift developing. former vice president indirectly called out his former boss donald trump on friday at an rnc event when he said there's no room in the gop for apologists for putin. what do you make of pence's comments now, especially given he said nothing while trump was cozying up to putin during his

term? and do you think republican figures, such as trump or tucker carlson, who sound sympathetic to putin, are a fringe element or do they have real influence? >> i don't know they're a fringe element. they might be in the minority, but they are voices that set the framing and narrative for many people across the country. those who follow conservative media and listen to tucker carlson more than they do mitch mcconnell or mike pence. those voices giving aid and comfort to putin are either doing it out of pure ignorance. truly there is a large swath of ignorance in the republican party. or it's malice or it's just values antithetical to the west. i think that third is most dangerous. when pence steps on the field and says this is wrong, there

could be no aid and comfort to putin, that voice is welcome but it's a little too late. history will record that mike pence protected and enabled and empowered donald trump while donald trump was committing acts that led to his impeachment including specifically around ukraine. good for mike pence, but it does little to change his legacy. >> switching gears to the push to ban russian oil, democrats in congress want to do it but the biden administration is concerned it may affect energy prices. inflation has been a major topic leading up to the midterms and problems for president biden in the midterms could be a result. what should be done, in your judgment? >> look, of course i think they should do it. the u.s. doesn't actually import that much oil from russia, so whether it's going to make a big impact remains to be seen. it would really depend on whether other countries join the united states.

but i think biden should do it. i think you can be honest with the american people, level with the american people, say that you're going to have -- i think you can get support for people agreeing to pay a little bit more for gas in exchange for standing up to vladimir putin. actually, there's a huge amount of concern about inflation, obviously, but i think if people believe they're making sacrifices for a higher cause, it will be a little bit easier to take. and the fact that there's bipartisan cover for it also makes it a little bit easier. the republicans will still turn around and blame joe biden for high gas prices. i think that's a given. but at this point i think that the price at the pump is of a lesser concern than the future of ukraine. >> david, let's quickly talk about president biden getting an

approval bump after the state of the union address. he's now up eight points to 47%, according to a new poll. is this a case of americans rallying around a president during this international crisis? >> i do think it helps. what i took note of at the state of the union is the strongest applause, the greatest response by the american people was when he spoke of unity, which is joe biden's strength. he was able to lean into his natural political strength in this moment. he has to continue to lean into that into november, because republicans are not going to be a fair opposition party. they will unfairly blame joe biden for a lot. biden's got to play to his strength. >> michelle goldberg and david jolly, thank you for being with us. coming up, the new warning from the state department to americans in russia. first, take a look at this, at

one refugee camp in romania, emergency personnel managed to throw a surprise birthday party for a little 7-year-old ukrainian girl. ♪ happy birthday to you, happy birthday to you ♪ ♪ happy birthday, happy birthday to you ♪ [ applause ] [ applause ]

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increasing sanctions and economic isolation from the global community after its invasion of ukraine. now to a report from nbc's ellison barber who is in poland at that border crossing, where ukrainian refugees are being met with a hot meal. ellison. >> reporter: right here they are offering traditional polish soup to refugees, people who have fled ukraine and have made it across the border into poland. you look around here and you see what is an incredibly organized site. we have been to six different border crossings, welcome centers in the last week or so. this is run by the polish government. government officials are here. the aid at other sites is much more loosely organized. but here you see police, firemen, members of the polish army here helping guide people to where they need to go next. they are bringing people in buses from the border crossing.

inside, there's 2,000 cots where people can stay, they can get warm, they can sleep for a minute. there is food, there's free wifi, places to charge your phone. then they are arranging transport to other cities in poland or other countries like germany or czech republic. you walk this way and you see all of the aid that is here for people, the influx of people also here, many of them carrying their entire lives in one or two suitcases. as we spoke to people here, we met one woman in her 60s. she said she did not know where she was going to go next. she was from kharkiv and she had to leave her home even though she didn't want to. she said the three bags she had with her was her entire life. there have been over a million refugees fleeing poland, many of them women and children. this is one place where people can come before they make their way somewhere else. back to you.

>> thank you. the u.s. state department is today urging americans to leave russia immediately, warning that u.s. citizens who stay may face issues accessing money and potential harassment by russian security officials. the timing comes as the russian news agency is reporting wnba basketball player britney grinor was detained at an airport near moscow. it was cited in the article marijuana products were found in her luggage, although nbc has yet to confirm this reporting. griners agents report they are in close contact with her. meanwhile israel's prime minister met with mr. putin in

moscow today to discuss the status of israelis and jews held up in the conflict. >> reporter: an israeli government official tells me that president putin's meeting in moscow with israeli prime minister naftali bennett lasted for three hours as the israeli leader steps up as the latest head of state trying to act as an intermediari, offer their services to try to help negotiations move forward to try to deescalate the situation. the israeli prime minister also communicating his concerns about israelis and the jewish community potentially caught up in this conflict. next he heads to germany to brief the german chancellor on his meeting with putin. we are also told the israeli prime minister was able to speak on the phone with president zelenskyy of ukraine after his meeting with putin, that diplomacy taking place as the state department today issues an

alarming new travel warning, telling all american citizens in russia to get out now. that's a stepped up warning from the past several weeks when the u.s. was encouraging american citizens in ukraine to consider leaving, but was not explicitly telling them they need to leave immediately. now with dwindling ability for u.s. diplomats in russia to come to the assistance of citizenships in russia, the u.s. says it's time to leave. in the latest indication of the concerns about that, we are learning about wnba player britney griner apparently detained in russia for what was said to be some hashish oil found in her luggage. the u.s. continuing its diplomacy today with secretary of state antony blinken in

poland where he visited a refugee center and also met with the prime minister on the border. the top ukrainian diplomat really putting blinken on the spot, saying it's nato's responsibility to step up and ukrainians will pay the price of the reluctance to impose a no-fly zone over the ukraine. blinken telling the ukrainian diplomat that the u.s. will continue to step up with even more weapons the u.s. will be shipping to ukraine as nato allies try to provide ukrainians what they need to fight the russians themselves. >> thanks to nbc's josh letterman for that reporting. coming up, reports of racism as people flee ukraine. >> the ukrainians were let in and the foreigners were said to get to one side. >> what stories like this could reveal about the struggle

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. ♪♪ the face of ukrainian refugee crisis was in the news this week as videos and reports surfaced of black people, many of them african students, attempting to flee the russian up investigation of ukraine and being met with discrimination and refusal at border crossings. deprioritized in favor of white ukrainians. a reminder that even in the worst of global human crisis, race can and all too often does come up. joining me now is charles blow, "new york times" columnist and host of "prime with charles blow." charles, is it fair to say plain and simple that this ukraine refugee crisis should be a

reminder that all refugees are not black and brown, that anyone can be a refugee and they all should be treated equally and fairly? because we spent a lot of time this week, some of us in the civil rights community, talking to the u.s. state department and the u.n. about intervening on these reports. >> absolutely, reverend. thank you for having me. i mean, what it shows us is that in times of severe stress, when you don't have the opportunity for reflection, when your first thought is your only thought, that racial tribalism comes rushing to the forefront and that becomes the motivating actor. as you just described, you know, everyone there is in danger. bombs and bullets do not know if you are ukrainian or if you're african and they don't care.

so everyone there is in the same level of danger. and yet the instinct of some people, it appears from both the videos we've seen and from reports from people who said they were discriminated against, that that racial tribalism was the trump card and the activating motivator for the people who were directing people onto those trains. >> i should say that i've talked with some senior members of the state department here who are looking into it, because this is extremely troubling, the videos and the reports we're getting. we're going to stay on it. charles, do you get the sense that we will see anti-russian sentiment here in the u.s. that could potentially become violent? on the other side of this, can we see in this country some anti-russian sentiment? >> i'm not exactly sure.

i mean, the heartening thing about this crisis and particularly young russians, both in russia, thousands of them have been arrested because they were demonstrating and saying not in my name, you will not commit this atrocity war crime in my name. also, we've seen the same thing from russian ex-pats in other countries saying this is not what i want to be associated with. i think that is very heartening, actually. i don't think it is a tit for tat in that way. i do think it will be difficult, however, to get some justice for these black people who say they were mistreated. ukraine is a cesspool of corruption, including the judiciary, and there is no way of knowing even after this if it

will be ukraine or if it will be russia, no way of knowing if the prosecutors would be willing to bring any kind of case in this. no way of knowing if these africans even want to go back into this environment. it's a very difficult situation on all fronts. >> now, we're out of time, but i must ask you do you think this crisis in ukraine is in any way bringing americans closer together or further apart? i mean, we saw what's happening with some bipartisan efforts in terms of the congress and the meeting with zelenskyy today. is there any sense that -- you and i deal with the divisions in this country all the time in our work. is there any sense this might be an issue of more coming together of american citizens in terms of dealing with this crisis? >> i think what happens is, when you show any group of people

human suffering, the natural humane response to that is to have compassion and empathy. the problem, i think, that some people are having is that we don't show the same human suffering of other people who are not white in the same way. so i think people are drawing a distinction and saying, let's just compare these two things or these several things and how we respond differently. how even neighboring countries around ukraine respond differently to ukrainian refugees as opposed to refugees who are not white and who are not european and drawing out that difference. i think, yes, we're united in the sense that human beings who are suffering deserve sympathy, but we're not united in the sense that all human beings who are suffering deserve the same sympathy. >> are we doing the same for everyone even in moments of unity. charles blow, thank you for

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that we should not become as insensitive and selective in our outrage as those that we fight. yes, we must deal with the reported bigotry at the borders but we must not become in anyway insensitive to the fact that there are people under siege and we must not act like people that have treated us the same way. that does it for me. thank you for watching. alicia melendez picks up the news coverage at the top the hour.

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hello i'm alicia menendez and we're covering the up to the minute details on the russian invasion on ukraine. the banking community continuing to turn the screws on the russian economy. in the last hour visa and mastercard both announcing they will suspend all operations in russia. comes as russian president vladimir putin today warned the world against any third-party involvement and no-fly zone over ukraine. >> there's some irresponsible statements that they should create a no-fly zone over the territory of ukraine. it's impossible to do. but any move in that direction will be considered by us as participation of that country in the military action. >> earlier u.s. secretary of state antony blinken met with foreign minister who didn't