how not to be a hero: because that's the last thing they need you to be. you don't have to save the day. you just have to navigate the world so that a foster child isn't doing it solo. you just have to stand up for a kid who isn't fluent in bureaucracy, or maybe not in their own emotions. so show up, however you can, >> hello, i am alicia menendez. for the foster kids who need it most— at helpfosterchildren.com welcome to the special hour of american voices. as we track the very latest from ukraine. there is the latest as we know it. visa and mastercard announcing they are suspending operations inside russia, which means their cards won't work inside russia. the cards issued by russian banks no longer work outside

russia. we should quickly know that also new tonight, italy's bra, announcing it has ended operations in russia. short time ago, president biden applauded visa and mastercard for what they did, saying that he welcomes their decision. the presidents statement coming shortly after he spoke with ukrainian president zelenskyy by phone. a call in which biden noted his administration is searching security, humanitarian and economic assistance to ukraine. he's working closely with congress to secure additional funding, and that is according to the white house. this morning, president zelenskyy made his own personal plea for help, to a group of u.s. lawmakers, telling them ukraine needs three main things. banning russian oil, and no fly zone over ukraine, and jets to fight russia. as of this hour, nato's ruling out that no fly zone request, as reported. putin says a no fly zone would, in his eyes, be a third party getting involved in an armed

conflict. in short, an act of war. putin is already watching on the ukrainian people, the war is getting worse. more people are suffering. today, putin violated a cease-fire he agreed to, just hours earlier. preventing safe passage to citizens fleeing his violence. it's an understatement to say there is a refugee crisis underway. and it is worsening. >> i took my daughter. and then, hopefully, we will arrive. i left my husband. back there. >> we begin our coverage this hour in lviv, ukraine. it is where nbc's news correspondent cal perry is monitoring the latest. cal, what is the mood in ukraine after russia appears to have broken that cease-fire agreement? >> yeah, there was some hope earlier today that maybe that cease-fire would hold specifically in the cities around mariupol, where we are

seeing heavy fighting. but not just heavy fighting on the streets, we're seeing this tactic by the russian army, where they are surrounding the city's. they are choking of both the power, the water and the heat. and they are than shelling these civilian areas. the hope was to get humanitarian corridor opened up, where goods could flow into these cities, and people could flow out. but according to the ukrainian government, the shelling never stopped on the russian side. so the cease-fire fell apart really before it even started. it is now a two front war. russia is moving up from the south and crimea, and from the north into ukraine, as this, they slowly make their way towards the capital. but there has been this market shift in the last 24 hours, where we're seeing this indiscriminate shelling. it is something the state department warned about. it is something that is now happening. and the part of the country where i am now, something happened 50 miles from kyiv, we're seeing the effects of that shelling in the form of refugees. more than 1.2 million refugees have already fled to ukraine. that number does not include people who are internally displaced in this country, looking for places to stay. they are scared. people are lost.

and of course, men of fighting age are banned from leaving the country. those folks are headed to the front, we're of course, the fighting is getting worse, alicia. >> cal, just walk us through the geography of what is happening. and opening our team could pull up a half, so that our viewers can see this. because eastern ukraine has been battered by violence, that is what you are just describing. it is causing many to flee to the western part of the country, that is where you are. how are they handling the influx in the west? >> so you have an effort underway, not only just the ukrainian government, which is sort of starting to get folks moving out of the state is quickly as possible. the city of lviv can only handle so many folks, so many refugees. there's only so much room, as there isn't any city. so whether ukrainian government is trying to do is to get folks into poland. poland has dropped its visa requirements for ukrainians, so that they can enter fairly easily. it doesn't sold the problem, again, over people are gonna go. future cast have been scaled out -- the unhcr has already set up camp in poland and in moldova. the red cross is on the ground

here as well. but it is cold. some people are sleeping outside. there is always gonna be these deteriorating situations in these war zones. i'll give you a very scary statistic. the world food programme says that there are 5 million people in this country, who are an immediate need of assistance, and immediate need of food. and that number, of course, will only grow, alicia. >> an incredible reminder of the dire need! cal perry, live for us in ukraine, thank you. tonight, a call with ukrainian president zelenskyy, the white house says president biden spoke of his concern about the reach recent russian attack on a ukrainian nuclear power plant. and that biden made a point to commend the skill and bravery of the ukrainian operators, who have kept the reactors in safe condition. we should talk about those ukrainians. the military rank we were minding the world what it looks like to truly fight for your country. kind of defiance, democracies are made of. a story tonight from nbc's and mclaughlin.

>> reporter: in kherson, ukraine, defiance. residents taking to the streets. go home, there is no vodka here, this man said. remember, kherson is ukraine. they first gathered by the hundreds, and as word spread, thousands. lashing out against the russian occupiers. then, gunshots. russian troops firing into the air. this woman draped in her country scholars, moves from. we are not afraid. we are together, she says. similar scenes in the nearby town of melitopol, also now occupied by russian forces. a crowd of angry people bearing down on armed russian troops. earlier this week, in kherson, the russian military invaded this port city to an overwhelming reinforces. from the outset, the people resisted, covertly filming from their windows, even going toe

to toe with a russian soldiers. you are occupiers, you are fascists, she says. the city's new rules posted on the mayors facebook, including a strict curfew. a maximum of two people allowed on the streets together at any time. >> we are not following the russian instructions properly. we are a free people, even under invasion. >> reporter: hearing russian reprisal, this kherson resident only wants to be known as jimmy. he says he has dedicated to documenting the occupation, covertly filming what's happening in the streets. where >> the first city to fall to russian forces in ukraine? what example are you setting. >> we have no other way to escape the situation. we can't evacuate. we are fighting from within, with our bare hands, with no weapons, with phones in our hands, and with our flags. >> reporter: in kherson and elsewhere, russian are being confronted by the ukrainian spirit. erin maclachlan, nbc news, lviv, ukraine. >> for more on the current situation on the ground in ukraine, and what could be

coming for its major cities, let's bring in two of our best military voices. we tired i'm colonel, jack jacobs. he's a medal of honor recipient, and msnbc military analyst. and general barry mccaffrey as a retired force general, and msnbc national security commentator. thank you both so much for being with us. general, president zelenskyy telling american lawmakers earlier today that ukraine urgently needs more assistance from the u.s.. there is reporting out that countries like poland maybe working out deals to get russian made jets into ukrainian hands. your thoughts? >> well, we put several billion dollars worth of equipment into their hands over the last several years. fortunately, the polish border, and maybe the hungarian border, there are still open to smart munitions, stinger, javelin, possibly armed drones. i think that the aircraft is not gonna be significant.

you know, we get, 20, 30, 40 holders and there. there are a basis under attack. this is a ground invasion. 200,000 troops. the ukrainians are fighting bravely. what they really want is an air tap the turns into a ground attack force. if u.s. air force, after russian ground forces, and calm targets are now presenting, it would be a total, immediate game-changer. that's not gonna happen. it would immediately mean war with russia, and president biden, i think, correctly is not going to go that route. >> colonel, do you agree from the generals assessment there? >> oh, yeah, look, there is no political well from inside the united states for war with russia. and that would generally engender an exchange of nuclear weapons. nobody wants any of this. the result is that the war on

the ground will have to continue, and we're gonna have to do as good as job as we possibly can, to give to the ukrainians whatever need. any tank weapons, more of those, any aircraft weapons, ammunitions, small arms, automatic weapons. and food. the thing to keep our mind on is the fact that if the russian forces, from the north, link up to those from the south, they're gonna cut off the ukrainian army that is in the east. and then, all the refugees who are there are gonna get off as well. in any case, they're gonna be two to 4 million refugees streaming over to the west. which is a disaster, and its own right. there's something else to keep our mind on. the russians are working very, very hard to cut ukraine off from the black sea. to cut them off from the sea of azov, and if the russians keep moving to the west along the

shoreline, the only way that the west is gonna be able to send supplies, food, ammunition and so on, to the ukrainians, it's gonna be a narrow strip of land between moldova and the black sea. and that is likely to close up, alicia. >> general, can we bring back up the map, because i want our viewers to be able to see what is it that we're talking about. we have been talking about the army in the north, meeting the army in the south. the west is where most of our reporting is coming from, right? we keep going back to cal perry in lviv. that is where we are seeing an outpour of refugees into poland. general, what happens if putin decides to train his attention on the western part of this country? >> eventually, look at their. personally, alicia, i think this thing will be largely wrapped up in 30 to 90 days, maybe even quicker. the actual point of the decision will be this giant

city of kyiv. 3 million people most of them civilians now, huddled in basements. they're getting hungry. they're gonna flip off the electrical grid, turn off the water. the russians will be firing thousands of artillery rounds a day, not 30 or 40 cruise missiles, or ballistic missiles. it will get miserable rapidly. those ukrainian soldiers will have all the advantages, if they fight block by block. but it would be devastating on the civil population. so it is not clear to me that at some point, president zelenskyy's gonna say, let's withdraw to the west, or the clear and open war. >> general, you've been involved in the exact type of combat that the general was detailing there. what can people in ukrainian cities expect in the coming days and weeks? >> well, to continued bombardment, as general mccaffrey says, and he's absolutely right about how difficult it's gonna be for the russians to attack, in a city

that's turned into complete rubble. and nobody knows that better than the russians themselves, who oppose the nazis in stalingrad, with the russians back against the river. and one of the reasons that questions were successful, is because the city have been turned into rubble. it is really hard to attack in a situation like that, but it's heartbreaking to watch what's taking place inside ukraine with its citizens, and it's gonna be more difficult to watch in the weeks to come, alicia. >> all right, colin jack jacobs, general barry mccaffrey, thank you both so much for being with us. ahead tonight, a wnba star detained. russia claims they found drugs on brittney griner. what's being done to get her home safely? plus, video taken earlier today of u.s. sanctions at work. airspace lockdown to russian jets. there was one exception today at dallas and dc. u.s. officials approving a charter flight to get russian

un mission personnel expelled out of the country. also ahead, diplomacy at work from israel to france. world leaders are working to de-escalate putin's attack on ukraine. former u.s. ambassador to ukraine on if it can be done. and the opinion president knows who he needs to talk to. >> i think i have to talk with putin. the world has to talk with putin because there are no other ways to stop this war. o opst this war. when you shop with wayfair, you spend less and get way more. so you can bring your vision to life, and save in more ways than one. for small prices, you can build big dreams. spend less. get way more. shop everything home at wayfair today.

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the president of ukraine spoke with american millionaire elon musk. zelenskyy confirming today's call saying the spacex founder is providing internet services to ukraine through low line satellites. he's also invited us to visit ukraine once the conflict is over. but as much as helping ukraine,

he's managed to block state media using his satellites calling himself a, quote, free speech absolutist. two-time was olympic medalist, brittney griner, is detained. there are efforts underway to get her back home safely. when we know from nbc news is correspondent, katie back. corresat >> the current time, te are more questions than answers in the brittney griner case. what we know is that she has been detained since the security checkpoint stop and that was in the month of february. we don't know if that was days ago or weeks ago, or when, if at any point, she will be released. we know she's being criminally investigated for a trafficking after they found those cartridges containing cannabis oil in her luggage. but we don't know how expeditious the process will be to get her court hearing or if any of that will be made public. the wnba spokespeople as well

as her agents and family have all expressed deep concern and support. they say they are closely in contact with her and trying to be as expeditious as they can to get her home safely. they say her health and well-being is their top priority and they love and support her. now, we don't know she was actually coming or going from russia. in that video. we know that she is playing basketball there for the past seven years. that is very typical for wnba players, they get played a much higher salary over and russia. and she, as many other women, have taken advantage of that for the past seven years. that is now unfortunately in russian custody, and finally, her story is seeming to be getting out there. but it does seem that it hasn't been days that she's been in custody. and there is no end in sight. i think the big question is, will her arrest, will her detention be used for some sort of political tool, given the

escalations between the u.s. and russia over the invasion of ukraine. she is a celebrity, she is an athlete. will this be used as some kind of political tool i think is the big question now. moving forward. i think >> nbc's katie buck, th. diplomatic efforts remain underway to stop russia's assault on ukraine. the question, how do you negotiate with and trust a leader who just this morning broke a cease fire within hours of approving it. u.s. ambassador to ukraine william taylor, he is now vice president for russia and europe, the united states of institute of peace. when i talk to our military experts, they seem very doubtful about the usefulness providing jets to ukraine. that is one of the few asks that presidents zelenskyy had. we already know that nato said no to a no-fly zone. what's options, diplomatic or otherwise, then, are still on the table? >> we so there is always an

attempt and the door is always open to some kind of diplomatic achievement. and there are several going on, several levels, of course the ukrainians and russians have been meeting every day or every other day or third day on the border between belarus and ukraine. on the river, the previous wherever between the two. those haven't gotten very far. they made some progress, they fought on humanitarian corridors and we heard today that the humanitarian corridor coming out of mariupol didn't work. the russians violated the break right away. so that is not promising. the russians, by the way, sent a former minister of culture to those discussions when the ukrainians were serious about it. they sent their defense minister. and senior member of presidents zelenskyy's team, political team. so that's probably not going anywhere. we know that the ukrainian

prime minister was there for a long talk with president putin and that is more likely to get somewhere. that is at least if you're talking to the person who's making decisions, putin is clearly responsible for this war, and he will be responsible for ending this war, one way or another. the other thing is what you mentioned, alicia, that is presidents ellen ski. he wants to talk to president putin. and, we, know president zelenskyy and president biden have had conversations, five conversations over the past ten days during this war. and president zelenskyy has confidence that if he sits down with president putin, maybe with president biden to make it serious, because president putin doesn't deal seriously with many people. but if he were sitting there with president zelenskyy, that could be a serious discussion. it's not clear however, alicia, that the decision-maker, president putin, is ready to make any kind of deal.

so that has got to be a concern all the way along. >> there was a lot packed in there so i want to tease it apart. the meeting with the israeli prime minister, prime minister bennett, what could've been accomplished in that meeting? >> what could've been accomplished was -- would be that the ukrainian president minister would've said mr. putin, president putin, you have big troubles. you have big troubles. the military campaign is not going very well. it is not entirely clear that president putin knows how badly it is going. they thought they would be in keeping -- in kyiv in two days, three days in a. have and it's been ten days and they haven't been able to get to the capital. so, prime minister bennett might have been able to give some indication of the problems that president putin may or may not know about. and, the recognition that this serious sanction is having an effect. that has to be getting through to president putin. so that kind of conversation, leader to leader, might be able

to -- might've been able to make some progress. >> when you talk about the possibility of zelenskyy, putin, and potentially president biden, sitting down, is that a one and 1 million shot? is that a real possibility? and what would become the countries of the conversation? >> wh at>> one of the things that s very interesting in the last couple of days, alicia, the other secretary of state, for policy, tory and learned, had an interview with tasks, the news we -- presumably, this got to russians. whatever information gets russian people. but this got to. it and he indicated that if -- if russia, if putin, were to withdraw, if he were to stop this fight, if he would withdraw the military, the sanctions, which are hammering the russian economy, would be released. would be pulled off. would be relaxed. that's an incentive that, even

if president putin doesn't understand it, when the russian people here here the news reported, they will say, this is a big problem for us, we can get out of it, why don't we do that? >> i just can't get over the video we keep playing over, the video surfaced of him feet away from his own administration, the optics of him sitting around a table with a bunch of women, ambassador taylor, thank you as always. ahead, the americans choosing to fight in defense of ukraine, an enormous risk to preserve a fellow democracy. plus, the horrific decision facing refugees across ukraine, leaving their homes with no guarantee of seeing their loved ones again. it's brought to us by sky tvs john sparks. >> it's beginning to slow down now, and there is going to be one almighty crush as people try to get on. this man is not in a good way. but they're going to get him on. propelled by fear, they battled

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get there. >> with no backup or safety net from the u.s. government, the risks are enormous. nevertheless, he is ready and willing to be part of the bravest armed forces and joined the international legion of territorial defense. which is ballooned to 16,000 volunteers from across the globe, says president zelenskyy. they arrived to defend freedom, defends life, he added. we were there as bennett began his paperwork at the ukrainian consulate in new york. the form advising people to be fully self equipped with uniform, personal protection. and an explicit reminder, it's on a voluntary basis. the form also asks applicants to specify your job, military, combat experience. volunteers can be chosen to go at anytime and that their own expense. bennett is hoping his will to learn will be enough. >> so why now? >> i'm not married, i have no kids. so, i'm getting up there in age, i'm still able bodied. >> for many american volunteers like andrew bennett, they have

no ties to the eastern european country, but they feel compelled to make a difference even as the u.s. state department to urge americans to avoid ukraine. the extreme danger, not to lost on marine combat veteran and father for, thomas diaz. >> if i were to die over there in ukraine, then, guess what, my children will know that i paid the highest price to be able to stand up and fight for what is right. >> an unshakable determination, inspired by ukrainians desperate fight for freedom. we emily echidna, nbc news, new york. ws>> joining me now frank for clues, he is the author of the fbi a in inside the bureau's code of excellence. frank, your reaction to americans taking it upon themselves to fight in ukraine. >> they better know what they're in for.

war is indeed hell, as they say. and i applaud the bravery, i applaud the motivation. they need to know what they are in for. if they have combat experience, excellent for them. they may not have -- they may get accepted and they may not get into what they want to get into their. the logistics are and clear to this. but it's a sad sage of affairs, alicia. we're talking about a need for a volunteer army to help a non-nato country because we simply have drawn that line about not putting boots on the ground. >> frank, i also want to ask, you a russian plane landed in washington today to pick up russian diplomats expelled has called for by sanctions. however, some russian diplomats remain. how does the american government determined when or not to trust any diplomat? >> well, from an adversarial country like russia, 25 years experience in the fbi and ultimately heading counter intelligence for the fbi, they are not to be trusted. and particularly since the

sizable percentage of the russians posted here, as so diplomats are actually intelligence officers working clandestinely under diplomatic cover. you saw reports this past week of 12 russian mission to the un diplomats being declared personna in broader, sent home, because they are operating outside the scope of their duty. that means that the fbi intelligence community knows that they are spies, they stepped up their speak to beauty because of this world crisis, and now they are being sent home. what if i'm more fascinating, alicia, is who's not getting sent home. because there is a lot more russian intelligence officers inside the u.s. than just those 12 from the un. so putin right now is absolutely livid that it is clear to him that there are compromises to his communications. there must be human resources, technical sources, president biden has used that masterfully, releasing stuff in realtime that otherwise would have been top secret and secret, but he declassify z. so putin's looking at who is it

amongst our team, amongst the intelligence community, that is spying for the americans, and who isn't getting sent home by the americans because they have a continuing intelligence value to the americans. there is a lot of stuff going on just beneath the surface that is truly fascinating. >> frank, given your experience and expertise, can you pull back the confessing give us a sense of the work that the intelligence community, the fbi, counter intelligence is doing in this moment? >> yes, i, mean we are all tuned in understandably to what's going on on the ground in ukraine, in russia, but understand that counter intelligence is going out the need the surface right here at home. there is intercepts of communications whenever possible, their sources being met, clandestinely on the streets, and back alleys with covert communications. all with the aim of trying to pass to ukraine and our allies whatever intel they have on how putin is thinking, whether next move is. it's clear to me that part of the success of the ukrainians

so far against the much more powerful russians, has been the flow of intelligence from the west to the ukrainians. it's an intelligence victory so far. >> frank, we've talked about military efforts, we've talked about diplomatic efforts, we've talked about economic sanctions. i do want to ask you, what would a u.s. cyber attack against russia look like? >> we so, good news bad news. good news, we have an incredibly sophisticated successful ability against the russians. and red large with regards to our cyber capabilities as a nation. not so good, of course, is our defense. are we ready for the retaliation? you've reported, i'm sure, about mentor breaches in the past, attributable to russia. colonial pipeline, jbs meat processing. but beneath the surface, the new york times had done a great piece on this awhile back, beneath the surface, the russians have been waving hello to us in our infrastructure, power grid, utilities, and

they've let us know that they are there. that's a signal that whatever we need to, we can come in and hurt you. so, yes, we can turn off the lights in moscow tomorrow. are we ready for the retaliation? which would be swift and severe. >> i have less than a minute left, but there was reporting today from the new york times about putin's mental state and i wonder from an intelligence perspective, the extent to which those assessments play and on strategy across the board. >> >> yeah, there are experts and physicians and psychiatry rests in the u.s. intelligence community, some full-time employees, a sum on contract to do nothing but study the health and mental stability of world leaders. and they study the facial gestures, they study the film, as they say, from past years and compared to right now. and it is going to play into briefings to president biden. we think he's increasingly unstable or not. we think he's isolating himself because he has a more serious illness, and it's not just about covid. we think he's distancing

himself from people for this reason or that. lots of armchair psychiatric and medical analysis going on right now and, yes, it feeds up right to the presidential daily brief with regard to putin's health. >> would it up to have. frankfurt lucy, as always, thank you so much. next, leaving home, not knowing if they were returned, refugees share their perilous journey out of ukraine. and we've seen families, a children, whose lives will never be the same. some are making the best of a horrific situation for their kids. >> happy birthday to you! happy birthday to you! happy birthday dear [inaudible] happy birthday to you! [applause]

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>> thousands of innocent lives forever torn apart, ukrainians forced to become refugees against their will by russia. the united nation estimates that more than 1.3 million people have fled ukraine since russia invaded. msnbc's ali velshi spoke to some of them at a train station and hungry. >> reporter: at platfrom ten in budapest new rail station, anguish arrives by the hour. >> absolutely awful situation! without any idea, good ideas, why, i would say, why? real bombs, real rockets, guides, every time we will be afraid. >> reporter: she and so many others have made the thousand mile journey from the heavily shelled city of kharkiv. here, there is safety. but there isn't certainty. this train carried 500.

some more, others less. they're both young and old. a mixture of those ukrainian by birth, and others who are not. all now refugees. >> do you guys know each other? >> no. no. just in the situation, we met each other on the train, and we help each other. >> reporter: inside the train station, there is food, medicine and small comforts, all of that arranged by volunteers. like these women who scour lists on laptops to pair that weary travelers with temporary shelter in private homes across budapest. >> we don't know when exactly the train comes, and it's really bad because two days ago, there were a lot of people here until 2 am. a 900 people just came in. and we were like, oh my god, it's 2 am. how can we manage this? and even at 2 am, we find help. >> reporter: they disembark in a new unfamiliar place, as we

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>> i don't think i did. we all are just super, mentally, we are broken. to be honest, i do have ptsd. i do. very but kind of. every time i hear sound or anything, i start shaking. >> is there anything else you want to say? >> please do -- please to cherish the clear sky, every time you see sky. cherish every moment of your life. >> latest numbers show just over 1.3 million ukrainians are displaced. half 1 million of them are children. neighboring nations are doing

their part, stepping up offering any help they can. today, the first batch of eunice of humanitarian supplies arrived in lviv, including medical equipment and medicines. the united states has granted temporary protective status, tps, to ukraine is already in the united states. they're protected from deportation for 18 months. well the united states increase its role in resettling those displaced? it's a conversation i had earlier with the president and ceo of a lutheran immigration and refugees service. here's a portion of that interview. >> this is where the u.s. needs to maintain its global humanitarian leadership. because, obviously beyond poland, hungary, moldova, other neighboring nations, this is where the u.s. can play critical role. and alicia, the truth is, what we are seeing is only the tip of the iceberg. the refugee crisis so far has been driven by war. but, in the coming days, it will be driven by war and war

nutrition. because in cities like mariupol where russians i have cut off electricity, and water, there -- we ukrainian officials are projecting that as many as 10 million opinions, that's a quarter of the country's population, could be disposed because of putin's atrocities. >> so i think, what we are talking about beyond temporary protective status, tps, for ukrainians who already in the united states, is something that you and i have talked about many times and many other contacts. that is, raising the cap on asylum seekers in this country. and also family reunification efforts, right. because they're gonna be some people who are here, some people in other countries, and there's going to have to be a mass effort to reunify those families. >> yes, that's exactly right. so this is where we need to illuminate any pathway that could help lighten the experience of what the european nations are feeling and experiencing. that is tps.

it is we -- poland and other nations where we have embassies and consulates that have long lines. it's a lot for family reunification which is how families can reunite with americans here now. it's just too time consuming a process. the refugee resettlement system is not built for humanitarian systems like this, in a sense of timing. but it's for exactly these kinds of crises when we are talking about the vulnerable people who are fleeing. so i think that's where we have rebuilt the capacity in terms of the f -- this settlement. using that capacity to as much as we can. it will be critical. but beyond, that it's about the white house today introduced ten billion dollars of humanitarian assistance and military assistance. we need to make sure that's approved. we sent 5000 troops initially

to poland. we have to go beyond that in terms of building operational capacity. and we have to use u.s. half in order to save quarters that have been created in principle implemented in practice. we civilians are not able to get out in the capacity that we need and humanitarian assistance is not getting in to places that need it. >> there are of course, and i'm sure you've been following this report, that africans, afghans, yemenis, i have been trying to flee the country's neighboring ukraine. they have been facing discrimination. -- equal access to safety. what more have you heard about these difficulties? >>ty yes. you know, it speaks to just how much race and religion are wrapped up into the decisions of who we protect and who we reject. there has been a rise of right-wing ideology and some of these nations. we saw it in the past. and it is, of, course deeply troubling that we are seeing it

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