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further action against russia. more diplomacy between nations. the conflict on the ground in ukraine intensifies. president joe biden has reassured ukraine of his support and promise more funding in an address to the nation,, president zelenskyy has urged ukrainians not to retreat. he said that -- visa and mastercard have suspended operations in russia. credit and debit cards issued
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by rakuten russian banks will know got longer work inside the country. meanwhile, and a 30 minute phone call with the president zelenskyy last night, joe biden reiterate -- security, humanitarian and economic assistance to ukraine. here in the uk, boris johnson has unveiled a six point plan that he hopes world leaders will follow to ensure russia fills in its invasion of ukraine. including mobilizing and international humanitarian coalition. all the while, the humanitarian crisis grows. it agencies estimate that the numbers of ukrainian refugees could reach one and a half million this weekend. as ukrainian cities face a continued russian siege. sandy liquid has the latest on the crisis. >> the world has come to show its support for ukraine. but on the ground, the fight is theirs and theirs alone. russian forces are now said to
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be in control of this military base in the southern city of kherson. president zelenskyy, seeking to boil a beleaguered nation, as russian forces advance towards a third nuclear power plant. >> when ukraine, which we know, love, protect and will not give up to any enemy. it's a special heroism to protests. even temporarily. when you don't have a weapon. and in response, you receive gunshots and you don't read. you don't read. >> but putin's latest threat that this would be viewed as
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participation in the conflict has done little to change western leaders minds. in a meeting at a polish border crossing, the u.s. secretary of state, ukraine's foreign minister found to win this war. >> if we lose the skies, there will be much, much more blood on the ground. and that will be the blood of civilians. and i do want anyone to share responsibility for their blood. >> ultimately, their strength, their result, their determination, that by the united states and backed by the world is going to prevail. a, new economic blow to russia. this time from visa and master card. suspending their operations in russia. and the fresh diplomatic attempt for israel's prime minister. and a backdrop of anti-war protests at home, natalia
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bennett flew secretly to moscow on saturday for a three-hour meeting with vladimir putin. and talks with the german chancellor. for people here in the southern region of mariupol, miss gave isn't an option. -- on hold after russia violated an agreed cease-fire. but israel, a country with relations on both sides, could now prove vital in finding a desperately needed break through. skelly -- sky news. >> british intelligence, as the russian forces are targeting populated areas in ukraine. but the strength of opposition is slowing their path. -- tweeted this update. the scale and strength of ukrainian resistance continues to surprise russia. it has responded by targeting
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populated areas in multiple locations. -- this is likely to represent an effort to break ukrainian moral. they used similar tactics in 1999, and syria in 2016. employing both air and ground based attacks. -- slowing the rate of their ground forces. there is a realistic possibility that russia is now attempting to conceal fuel taxes repair support trucks. about one and a half million people are expecting to have fled ukraine today. with poland taking more than 780,000 refugees so far, and that number continues to grow. moments earlier, i spoke to chris from the refugee agency saying this is an international operation, and countries need to continue showing solidarity. >> this is my goal for many
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weeks. and that's why we're asking for solidarity. the people in poland, romania, so lavaca, even little moldova 's even more refugees. this is showing more solidarity. but this is not our ukrainian poland and not a ukrainian romanian crisis. this is at least an european crisis or international crisis. that's why this country needs solidarity, like the people need help in solidarity. >> we'll speak to alan parsons who is in western ukraine. allen, it's interesting talking to chris, he's a representative. you've experienced -- never experienced numbers like this. even comparing it to the -- saying it was nothing compared to what they're seeing now. >> yeah, the numbers flooding out of ukraine are absolutely extraordinary. i think we will hit one and a
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half million figure later today. they've been looking at a couple hundred thousand people going out of this country. i think you have to put this in some context. you're talking about a lot of the population leaving their own country over the course of just a few weeks. it's a extraordinary amount of people. and that doesn't tell the whole story. because that is about refugees, people leaving ukraine to seek refuge in another country. there are probably as many people, again, as displaced within the ukraine. have left kharkiv, or kyiv, or marry a poll, or whatever it might be twos -- in western ukraine where your much further where your much further from the fighting. so the disruption to the country is absolutely colossal. and i think interesting, hearing about that military intelligence assessment, i think we're all seeing something pay out here.
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which, is bluntly, the ukrainians armed resistance has been much stronger and resolute then the world has predicted. at the same time, russia's ability as a super military power on the ground has been worse than we have predicted. why might that be? well, watch ukraine has an enormous army with a lot of reserves and a tremendous amount of spirit. we were filming over the last day or so, a recruitment station, hundreds of people outside replicated across the nation. people are teaming up to join, to fight, and to defend their country. at the same time, you have russian forces who are with the obsolete. there is a question of the rounds, soldiers who didn't believe that they were coming to a war zone particularly. and they have rushes battle plans. and they were no near as advances the expected. now let's not be naive.
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russia has some enormous weaponry. and continues to attack strategically important places, advancing our nuclear power stations, on hydro places. presidents lewinsky addressed it last night. telling people to fight back. and these huge dramatic efforts. whether from israel, united states, germany, uk. and the no flight alone from nato. that is crucial to saving this country. >> adam, thank you so much. well, the rest has refused to impose that no-fly zone upon ukraine. despite calls from zelenskyy. we're speaking to catwalk, or who is a former bum or to nato, and resents is -- during donald trump's administration. >> first of, all we have done this in the past. we have done no-fly zones. we've done it over areas of
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iraq, for example. it's almost the same as attacking. we know how to do this, there is a protocol for this. secondly, we made very clear that this was for humanitarian purposes only. we are there to prevent attacks on the civilian population. and we do this over kyiv and western ukraine in the geographic rain. we are not coming close any borders. and we have very clear rules of engagement. we will not be striking any ground targets, any russian forces unless fired on. and we're not gonna be striking any russian aircraft or helicopters outside of the zone. and if you enter the zone, then there is a protocol of the escalating tactics to escort them out. and if they refuse, then there would be the prospect of firing on them. but many ways to avoid. that and i think the russians will understand this as well. they might test us, but then they don't want to draw us into a larger conflict either. >> well, let me --
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a little bit on that. do you really think that mr. putin is going to play by rules that nato has set up? he has not been interested in what nato has to say about anything thus far. >> i think that it is force that he respects and listens to. not the rules that are stated. so if he sees that we are doing it, and we are prepared to follow through, i think he will adjust. >> let's talk about no-fly zones. we're joined by former senior air marshal, head. thank you for talking to us. >> thank you. >> you've been involved in no-fly zones extensively. let's talk basics here. what is enough lies? on >> a no fly zone is where you delineate an area of airspace, and as they said, that cannot be used for
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military purposes. more tentatively, it cannot be used for any purposes at all. but what i would say, listening to that, is clarifying that this is not for -- some form of policing. what we have is anything that can control in that airspace. that's all know floyd's virus being involved in an opposition. too -- so i think this means that it would be quite difficult to set these discreet battlefields where we can do this, but not that. >> so it is quite an aggressive action that would be needed to delineate and keep it clear? >> yes, it's an aggressive action. and it is a proper military operation. it just happens to be done by people who have -- uniform not khaki once. but it is not just some form of
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benign air policing, and escorting an air cord off the area and telling him not to do it again. so at third doing isn't active war, and has to be consider that way. >> so if we have to set up a no fly zone, will that be seen as an escalation? because people putin has said exactly that yesterday. >> well there will be an escalation in this context. and i was involved in the humanitarian won in iraq who has been absolutely discriminatory's of operation against -- we have just vanquished in kuwait. i think this is a very different situation. >> it would also be a very different no flight zone, wouldn't it? >> yes, exactly. we're up against a great military power. so, this idea that somehow we
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could carve out areas and call this just humanitarian, it would be seen by russia as putin has said, as an act by nato to fundamentally limit its military operations. >> and every time that this has been mentioned -- not every time, but frequently -- the argument is, we can't do that because that would result in a shooting down russian planes. would that be the endgame of a no fly zone? >> yes, that ultimately is what a no-fly zone should be able to do. with rules of engagement, the congested airspace that there would be. with just the scale of the range, the quality of equipment that both sides would put forward, you could see this escalating very rapidly into some form of greek ear conflict over ukraine. as i say, it would drag in on all the ground elements as
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well. >> did you have to shoot many planes down in the no fly zones over iraq? >> well, saddam hussein didn't have much of an air force. a lot of it had been removed during the gulf ward. what he tried to do was use ground based systems and did end up firing at that coalition aircraft quite extensively. which resulted in quite a serious campaign to suppress his enemy air defenses. which is a technical phrase for bombing his stuff on the ground. >> what about ground race artillery? if you're policing the airspace, you're not going to stop those, are you? >> no, that's the point. you can actually see here, you could easily postulate a case where even if your no-fly zone is successful, you could be fine top color and cover and watching horrendous scenes on the ground that we're seeing at the moment. actually, stopping the ukrainians flying there affective drones, because a no-fly zone is a no fly zone. >> so, would be more effective
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than sending in weapons, which is what we're doing now? >> effective in what sense? and i can absolutely see, and i do sympathize with why zelenskyy is asking for a no fly zone. because he knows that is nato getting involved in this conflict. if you want to talk about effectiveness in stopping russian ground operations, then supplying the sort of drones and light anti tank weaponry and similar systems on which we've been training that ukrainians now for 5 to 10 years, i think would help them conduct ground operation better. >> so, given your experience, if we were to implement a no fly zone as zelenskyy keeps asking us to do, that would be an escalation and do you think that would lead to an all out world war iii? >> it would be an escalation. i suspect it would give putin
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the out he grieves. that he could now craft a narrative that this is now nato revealing its true colors and trying to attack russia and take ukraine. and he would hope that that would galvanize the russian population, who at the moment, is questioning why are we involved in this operation. but of course, i could see why the ukrainians would want to. and i could see -- i can see a humanitarian case. i can see how that can become compelling. so you can see with the force of public opinion in the west, who demand that something ought to be done. but yes, it would be an escalation. and if putin escalates, given his truck met record at the moment, then it is quite easy to sketch a path to a full on conflict between nato and russia. >> okay. >> errol marshall, edward stringer, thank you so much for talking to us this morning. >> thank you. >> well, let's talk about
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what's happening on the ground. because intense fighting continues between those ukrainian and russian forces. russia was accused of breaking a temporary cease-fire in the encircled city of mariupol -- after evacuation routes were set up to allow civilians to escape the fighting. in the southwest of the country, russian forces continue to advance on the city of -- close to the crucial economic hub of odessa. around the capital, the governor of the kyiv region says the russian forces have taken a psychiatric hospital with more than 600 patients inside. well north of kyiv, the air defense claims it shut down shut down russian helicopters. from kyiv, our special correspondent alex crawford reports in the fight for the capitol. >> the russian troops are getting closer and closer to the capital. they're now only eight kilometers away. but the ukrainian with the ukrainian military desperately
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try to stop russian soldiers were pressing into the center of urban areas. the sounds of street by street fighting and the threat of war is a constant inside the town. and in the middle of this all, there are terrified civilians. hundreds, gingerly making their way across a bombed bridge, hastily patched together with a makeshift walkway. most are women and children. holding there are things close. many elderly, having the only possessions they managed to have. it's all they have left in the world now. there are ukrainian soldiers trying to guide them across. they know they are just ahead of the advancing russian troops and the window to get them to safety is narrowing. >> you see that putin attack children. he's attacking elderly people. putin attacking women. this is not any rules of war. he is a military crier.
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>> there's no humanitarian corridor here. and no real safe place. this is only the next staging post. and the sounds of war aren't listening. instead, they're getting louder. and following them. they're exhausted and spent. and often weeping with relief. or just glad to be a life. they're very stress. tell me quickly, are you all right? >> i'm all right. >> i was in a car and we saw this russian tank. he struck on us. and we -- >> just got save. us >> god saved us. >> the russian army is leading leaving a trail of despair destruction as it cuts its way through to the capital. aerial footage of a nether town
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on the outskirts shoot burning vehicles and abandon russian hardware. a stream of ukrainian soldiers emerge from the open, looking trained of all energy and defeated. it looked like it had been a tough battle. those picking up the fight, no it will not be easy. some who escaped had here raising tales did you see that russian soldiers? >> yes. >> how many were there? what were they doing? >> i saw just maybe two or three people beside us. we ran for them. >> can you work out what they were attacking? everything? >> nothing special. i guess they're shooting everything they see. so -- sorry. >> what have they tied you up
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with? oh, my gosh. they think you were russian? >> probably, yes. but we have all documents. were we can prove we're not russians. we are ukrainians. >> a ukrainian soldier investigates and questions them and they produce their passports. and a young man not fighting is viewed with great suspicion. but he's satisfied they are ukrainians and cuts him free. those who fled are desperately hoping they can reach sanctuary. but it seems the russian military is moving relentlessly forward. and they're being transported into the capital, a few kilometers away, where they fear they will be next. inside kyiv, there's nonstop work to try to shore up defensive, to protect themselves. increasingly strident demands for international help. >> we are on our own land.
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our country. and we will fight for this country. in every town, in every city. on each street from each building. we're ready and we will fight. because we -- the truth is on our side. and god is on our side. so, we will win. >> they're calling for a no flight soon. but with the world looking on, all they can do is wait for an army they fear will inevitably are arrive. alex crawford, sky news, give. >> well, these visa massacred are suspending operations in russia, meaning credit and debit cards issued by russian banks will no longer were outside the country. let's bring in our -- who is in the newsroom for us this morning. morning, to this news breaking overnight. >> morning, kimberly. yes the latest in a raft of economic sanctions leveled against russia. mastercard said their cards
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issued in russia will no longer work. equally, kurds issued abroad will no longer be accepted by russian atms and in russian shops. the company did say they didn't take this decision likely, considering they've been operating in russia for more than 25 years. similarly, these are said that they were in talks to suspend all transactions in the country and the coming days. and their ceo said this was due to russia's invasion of ukraine. considering that those two companies handle more than 90% of all the and credit card transactions outside of china, this is going to be very significant. earlier on saturday, we also heard that people also has shut down their operations in that country and comes after swift, that inter banking global messaging system has cut out a number of russian financial institutions from their operations. that will make it incredibly hard to make international payments out of russia or to
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russia. this is all having a really detrimental effect on the russian economy. a national currency, rubble, has tumbled down by more than a third, to a record low. and the people who are really feeling this are the ordinary russian citizens. they're experiencing high levels of inflation, long cues in front of atms. and they're really feeling this economic pain now. the thinking behind these western sanctions is that that will compel russian president putin to get to the negotiating table perhaps. some sort of a compromise over ukraine. that really, so far, that does it seem to be any sign of that happening at all. >> molina, thank you. boris johnson has claimed vladimir putin is try to rewrite the rules of the international order by military force. mr. johnson has launched a six-point plan of how the international community should resolve the crisis, including sanctions and attempt to find a
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diplomatic solution. -- talks with leaders from canada, the netherlands and central european countries in london next week. our political correspondent has more. >> the language, the rhetoric from boris johnson here is typically tough. aimed at vladimir putin. what we've heard from the private sector in the last couple of weeks is the difference -- in the new york times. it follows those three interviews boris johnson gave to three different european newspapers yesterday in germany, italy and in spain. papers of record read by opinion former's. i think one of course he wants to try to get a broad coalition of support behind his response to ukraine. his idea of how to respond. but also, i think the back of his mind, he wants to change perceptions and improve his reputation. he's of course, a controversial figure. some on the european continent because of his --
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in the u.s., particularly on the democratic side of politics, some view him with a little suspicion. perhaps because of his relationship with president trump. but also, the comments he's made in pass about barack obama and his attitude towards northern ireland. all of this is a prelude though. the interview -- a week of downing street diplomacy starting tomorrow, when justin trudeau of canada a mark writer of the netherlands arrive at number 10 downing for talks. then on tuesday, leaders of the the for, for central european nations will be in london. those are the leaders of the czech republic, poland, hungary and slovakia. no doubt, boris johnson does really believe in the role of the uk can play in this crisis and the response to what vladimir putin has done. but also perhaps, he sees an opportunity to improve his slightly battered reputation, at home and abroad. >> well, the premier league has
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continued to show solidarity with ukraine falling russia's invasion. jacqui is here with me. now jackie, football again standing with ukraine? >> yes, football stands together is the motto and there are plenty of flags yesterday. there were lots of stories with the split ukrainian flag, yellow and blue. as you can see there on the picture, around the grounds. if this happened before every single premier league match. and it was all fine. everybody was observing it. it was all going very well. except, in the chelsea match against -- where the fans there decided that during the applause they would chance roman abramovich's name. [applause] [applause] >> as you can hear, they were booed by the fans. and people spoke afterwards, he
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was not pleased, he said this was not a moment for other messages. we do it for ukraine and there is not a second opinion in this situation. we should stand together. and i think he was pretty serious, actually that the fans had chosen that moment to do that. to do it well in australia, as well when they came to the news that shane ward had passed away. and there were people dropping off flowers, and beer cans at his statue at the c g. people are still shocked in australia, breaking news in the last hour that the premier, who offered to pay the funeral for the fan are all -- there will be more details in the next few days, but we will have a state for you. and they will name something for him at the acc.
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and the husband, has been speaking out about the shock they are all feeling. >> the three children are in complete shock. i think i spoke to them yesterday again. and i think that they -- jackson expected that they walk through the door. this is like a bad dream. i spoke to -- he was really upset. and obviously, get keith is a really strong individual. but like everybody, he can't believe what's happening. >> it is! 52! 50! to >> i think they are all absolutely broken. i saw some messages on instagram yesterday, absolutely heartbroken. i had a piece on shane ward spoke, and he dedicates a chapter to his relationship with elisabeth hurly. and she's absolutely does
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stated as well. it is very bleak and horrible news. >> it is, but you have some good news for us jackie. >> the only piece of good news! at the china limping, there was an unexpected gold, in the men's impaired super g. it was neil simpson, and his brother andrew who finished ahead, and they were not expecting this, but it is a very welcome gold medal. and a civil matter in the same event for fitzpatrick. they took silver in that, along with her guys gary smith. that is the fifth paralympic medal for her. so a very successful night for a team g b. and i don't know watch the summary of the paralympics,
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when the team came and i will caught very emotional. because it was such a battle for them to get their, but they got there. it's extraordinary, they're behind china. they've just been overtaken. >> jacqui, your ray of sunshine! thank you for the goodness. e goodness there will be a quiet week to the weekend, and the start of the new week. as -- keeps the atlanta grain from making -- . it is a cold start across scotland, ireland, and parts of new england. with -- these will clear to almost unbroken sunshine with overnight winds, which will make for a very pleasant spring
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the invasion in ukraine this morning. we have dr. --
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. he has tweeted and retweeted -- he has confirmed several attacks on ukraine, reporting multiple attacks being investigating. attacks on -- breach medical neutrality, and violates the human role. you see his re-tweeted, saying that w.h.o. has process six attacks on the ukraine. that is doctor -- . saying that there is breach of humanitarian law taking place. also, a briefing of general staff this morning, have said that more than 11,000 russian troops have been killed since moscow launched the invasion of ukraine on february 24th. so that is reuters, they are quoting the ukrainians. clearly it comes from the
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ukrainians, it's unverified. -- so there's a couple of updates for you. on the russian invasion of ukraine, it is day 11 now. hundreds of people gathered in london's trafalgar square, which is one of two protests that came in london with more scheduled around the country later today. some president at the protest described this as saying to fight. let's speak to -- . she is a ukrainian -- valeria, thank you so much for talking to us this morning. how are you? and how is your family? >> hi. these past days i do not answer this question anymore. i don't know what to say. and i don't ask these questions from the people in ukraine at the moment. my family is in ukraine, most of my friends are in ukraine. and there is no answer. >> do you speak to them? do you speak to them? often >> i speak to them.
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i speak to some. i do not speak to others. because many of them are in the army or [inaudible] . many of my friends are volunteering to deliver food to the areas that are now starving because of the russian invasion. >> what areas are those, phil area? >> kyiv. and suburbs of kyiv. where the situation is really difficult. it is back and forth between the russian -- russian army controls. i don't know who are saying exactly, but the russian forces and ukrainian forces. it's kind of those back and forth. and there is no humanitarian corridor. the russians agreed to have the corridor than they shell the corridors when people were about to leave the areas. so they were not able to evacuate people, or deliver anything. so the red cross isn't working. because the red cross only
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works when they're humanitarian -- russians are using the various attacks on civilians. obviously, now there's no people to evacuate or deliver medicine, goods. i've been spending my time between helping civilians evacuated new warrants from kyiv, and -- which is the suburbs of kyiv. where they have no nappies, no food. the mothers have no milk. so it is just devastating. and -- >> in that bombing of the humanitarian corridor, that was in marion poll yesterday. so let's just talk about -- >> it's not only mariupol, it's in -- . as well. it was near kyiv, but then they started shooting them. >> and that was near a collapsed bridge if i'm not mistaken? >> yes. >> so, let's talk about the practicalities of what you are doing. you said you're helping people evacuate newborns from kyiv?
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how do you go about doing that? you are here in london. how do you go back doing that? >> we have a lot of networks of these people, so i have different contacts of people doing different things in kyiv. i've been delivering medicines to older people, or delivering -- i have a network of young mothers who are helping pregnant women just after birth. they are helping them trying to deliver nappies and other things they mainly in the first days. >> how do you get to the? if you don't mind me asking. >> sometimes we get them to them, sometimes we don't. depending on what is happening on the ground. the people in kyiv, they now have a lot of different cars that people of donated to them. volunteers for humanitarian aid, or needs of delivering food to our forces, even. i'm coordinating a lot of it because i received a lot of requests from different people around kyiv, or around the
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country, to be honest. from -- here -- also a hot spot. i know a lot of people in different areas who are working on that. so i transfer that information. and i help with donations, and coordinating with donors, and coordinating with different communities in london, but also in other countries like netherlands, germany. people are coming from everywhere. and i'm just -- there's a lot of work to be done in making all of these efforts, to make sure these efforts are helpful. >> it seems to make sure that this network has sprung up, i want to ask you, because we are running out of time here, but how do people get involved in this effort? a lot of people will want to do something. they'll see what's going on, they'll be seeing all those people fleeing, and they'll want to do something. so how do they? yes they can go the protests,
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but how do they actually provide you with support? >> exactly. very good question. so one, there is a website called defend ukraine dot org. where you can find information on various directions of work and donations, humanitarian support. cutting times with russia, and destroying the economy so they finally realize what they are doing is unacceptable. and you can also go to, for example, in london there is a ukrainian embassy who both are helping people directs their efforts to the right direction so that the donations are helpful. so they get close, and they're bringing actually something that people need there. and they all have different work screens where they can advise what is the best. >> thanks so much for talking to. us president zelenskyy says
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that ukraine will receive more starlink internet terminals next week, following a conversation with elon musk. mr. zelenskyy said in a tweet that he's grateful to the spacex chief for supporting ukraine with words and deeds. last week, mr. musk warned that star link could be targeted as internet is disrupted in ukraine. it's the only active non-russian communications system. the chinese foreign minister, wang yi, has told the u.s. secretary of state antony blinken and china opposes any moves that fuel to the flames and ukraine. china has broken ranks with europe and u.s. on opposing sanctions against russia, and called for negotiation to result the crisis. meanwhile, u.s. officials have traveled to venezuela for talks with the country's government, to determine whether or not they're prepared to drop their close ties with russia. the -- highest level u.s. visit to venezuela since the countries broke diplomatic relations and
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made a campaign of u.s. sanctions. coming up on sky news breakfast, we'll take another look at this morning's papers. -- do you struggle to fall asleep and stay asleep? qunol sleep formula combines 5 key nutrients
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england correspondent.
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>> hello again. -- the mornings papers with the entrepreneur keep hard castle, and matt stalin. good morning to you both. thanks a lot for joining us. kate, do you want to kick us off. seven pounds a gallon for oil. the male, page four. >> i didn't think we would reach that day when we would see that price at the pumps. obviously, feel and the impact of that cost and that market and the push for demand that
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was already happening because of the demand post lockdown has now exacerbated. as the market is certainly challenge with what's happening in russia and ukraine. and we'll see this article very much focusing on a call from bodies to try to do something, we have to remember obviously, the impact of fuel go so much further. it's a key ingredient to most of the things we buy, the food that we buy, the goods that we buy. it's a huge impact for businesses and manufactured goods to. while we turn our attention to things like the costa feel, the cost a living crisis in the uk. there's no lack of understanding from me -- this is a real challenging time for so many families. we had those headlines just a month ago, people having to make the choice between eating and heating. this is going to carry on in terms of the cost of living crisis right through. i fear where the impact will be
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moves felt. >> so interesting. we were talking about the cost of living crisis. this is really just not something we would've ever anticipated. it's really going to get hard for a lot of people. isn't it? >> yes, it's absolutely no doubt that the crisis in ukraine is piling on the misery for people up and down the country. as kate was saying, we've already got a cost of limiting living crisis. people choosing between eating and heating. i just got my email through this week from my suppliers in my prices are going to go up. we've got that around the corner. and huge inflation. because of what's going on in ukraine, because of putin's monstrosity, is when her even more. but i think we have to accept that were not watching children being murdered by the russian dictator. we have to take our own share of the pain on this. while we have imposed sanctions, it is true to say that europe
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is still addicted her russian gas and oil. in other words, we are pumping billions of pounds a week into putin's war effort, because we have not cut off his gas supply. so, to the extent, we continue to be complicit. >> kate, what do you think? is this something that we're going to have to act on sooner, rather than later? >> the uk is relying on that, but we buy from world market and that is where it's bought out on. and i think we are taking actions. you asked me earlier, we were cut short -- no one is ever going to feel, that we're doing enough. when that bloodshed and every day tire pressure is piling up. we're watching and feeling pretty helpless. i think we've got to make sure that the intensity increases, day by day. i think what i am pleased to have seen is the stepping up of organizations, charities and just people like you and i out there trying to do everything we can do to support this. it's never going to feel enough. >> matt, let's have a look at
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the from page of the sunday marie. a striking picture. just one of so many that have come out of this crisis. >> yeah, we've seen all week, haven't we, the quite breath bravery of people in ukraine. that's why i say we have to be prepared to accept in ourselves. in the southeastern city of mariupol, it went viral yesterday. an arm ukrainian civilians, facing down russian invading soldiers who were firing into the air. and forcing them to retreat. one of the big stories of this war is the russian soldiers, i think many of them did not realize they were going to war. and those that did, thought they would be welcomed with open arms. and of course, that has been very, very far from the reality. we also know in the south of you kate, the only major ukrainian city to have been captured by the russians, there's also been incredible defiance. 2000 people, i think yesterday, out on the streets.
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that extraordinary image of ukrainian protester putting out ukrainian flag on a russian tank. i was saying in the last hour, we've also seen ukrainian farmers literally turning away russian heavy armored vehicles. the bravery of you the ukrainian people has just followed the bravery of their extraordinary president zelenskyy. they should inspire all of us to do our bit. >> a lot of people have come out, haven't they, and join these protests. guardian online. tens of thousands joint rally around the world. >> that's right, yes. and there has been the public outcry. the cities like new york, paris, full of tens of thousands of protesters. many of them raising the national flower of ukraine. placards reading peace is wanted. there are certainly many people wanting to have their voice
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heard. wanting to come together. wanting to stop the bloodshed and their terror. i think that it is for many people, not anywhere near the feeling that they can do enough. many people rallying to get donations two organizations that are going to try to get those items, you just heard in the last feature. the nappies the, sanitary products. this is about people trying to do the right thing, when i feel they feel incredibly limited in what they can do. it's heartbreaking. >> it's heartbreaking all around, isn't it? matt and kate, thank you so much for talking to us and being with us this morning. hopefully next time will have a bit more -- i don't know, happier news, to talk about. but thank you so much. enjoy your sunday, both. coming up in the next hour on sky news breakfast, the w.h.o. confirms several attacks on health care in ukraine, causing multiple deaths and industries
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injuries. as russia's attack continues.
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it is 8:00, this is sky news breakfast. these are top stories this morning. >> a woman's health organization confirms several attacks on ukrainian health care is's facilities, upon escalation of the crisis. >> -- track record at the moment. it is quite easy to have a sketch of power between nato and russia. >> ukraine's parents didn't

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