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it is 5:00 p.m. in the east. good night in ukraine. and we have a lot of breaking news this hour. vice president kamala harris addressing the russian invasion of ukraine just moments ago in salma, alabama. >> salma, before i begin, i want to say a few words about the situation in ukraine. today the eyes of the world are on ukraine and the brave people who are fighting to protect their country and their democracy. and their bravery is a reminder that freedom and democracy can never be taken for granted by any of us. >> harris is going to travel to romania and poland this week to discuss u.s. support of ukraine's neighbors in nato as u.s. secretary of state blinken confirmed today the u.s. and

poland are considering sending fighter jets to ukraine, a question echoed on msnbc. >> we now see they retreated to tactics of simply bombing us from the sky indiscreetly, everywhere. so that's where we need the support. so if it's a no fly zone, missile supply or anti-air defense, whether it's airplanes, we need all of that. >> meanwhile, russia's aggression continuing to imperil civilian evacuations. three killed today as an evacuation of the city of mariupol was aborted for the second day to intense shelling from surrounding russian forces. nbc news just confirming that a tv tower in the city of kharkiv

was attacked. its signal has been lost. broadcast suspended. and the business world continuing to sever tied with russian. american express, tiktok join credit card giants like visa and mastercard who pulled business after yesterday's phone call. he talks about how he feels the ukrainian country feels alone right now, especially when it comes to support from the west saying this. russia announced the attack that will happen tomorrow on ukrainian territory. i did not hear a single reaction from the world leaders, from a single western politician. reaction to this news. he goes on. think about it. the feeling of impunity. they're announcing this ahead of

time. why? because there is no reaction. because there is silence. i want to begin on the ground in ukraine as the day is beginning. matt bradley is back with us. matt, we're just getting this new video in from the ukrainian president talking about the fact that he feels as if the ukrainians are not necessarily getting enough support, especially when you have a pre-announced attack from moscow. talk about if you are hearing similar sentiment on the ground there. >> yeah. we're hearing this on the ground a lot. and this is something that's interesting because it's coming from the top and it's coming from the bot democrat. we're hearing it from just regular people on the street. i spoke with a theater director whose theater had been turned into a donation center, so people were bringing tons of stuff, food, clothing, medicine, stockpiling there and all of it goes out to help displaced people coming from the other side of the country to here in the west. when we spoke to him, he was filled with the same old stuff,

save ukraine, all of the rhetoric we have been hearing from people time and time again. but he actually said, we need this no fly zone. this was part of his patriotic rallying cry. and i don't think it's something he misunderstood. i don't think it is something he plucked off television. this is a political talking point that we're hearing in diplomatic circles. but it is also something that ordinary people want. they want that no fly zone. it is the one wish of the ukrainian public because they are so threatened by the aerial threat of russia. the military -- excuse me, the air force of russia is so much more powerful than the ukrainian air force and the threat of bombing from the sky is so much more acute than even the tanks that are rolling into this country that ordinary people who might not be so politically engaged are really feeling very strongly about this because it is such a menacing threat. and, so, this no fly zone is something that a lot of people, i think they understand why the

americans don't want to implement this, why the west doesn't want to implement this because, of course, it would mean that the west would come into direct military conflict with the russian military, with the russian air force. they would be shooting down russian planes. that's the long and short of it. at the same time, they are so disappointed with the way the west reacted. from weeks before this, before the assault first started, from before the invasion began nearly two weeks ago to now they want to see more done. they're satisfied with a lot of the material that has been sent this way. they like hearing a lot of the political support, a lot of the, you know, the social media posts that really are seen quite widely here. this is a very tapped in and engaged country. but they really wish there was more on the military front because right now that is a threat they're feeling on a day-to-day basis. >> all right. matt bradley for us. thank you, matt. thank you for your reporting throughout the last few hours.

we very much appreciate it. we want to go from ukraine to poland talking about the humanitarian crisis, the million plus people that are fleeing ukraine right now for safety, some of which alison has been seeing on the ground. talk to me about what you have been feeling so far as this week begins, a new day and refugees crossing that border trying to find some semblance of safety as their country is being attacked. >> reporter: yeah. when we first started reporting along the border here, we would meet a lot of people who were crossing into poland to stay with friends or family members. now again and again we are meeting people who are crossing into poland because it was a safe place they knew they could get to, but they don't know anyone here at all. we have seen mothers crossing with babies, some as young as just one month old. that mother, she talked to us

about her concerns not only of safety, bringing her children through an active war zone but worry as she traveled into poland, worried because it was so very cold. she had bundled up her children. she was trying to keep them warm, but that was an added threat for their journey, was the dangerously cold temperatures. we met other people, older at other border crossings who they are coming to terms with the fact that, because of their age, they might have seen the very last of the homes, the communities that they loved so much. listen to what one woman told us we met shortly after she crossed into poland. >> when i was leaving, i had to take -- take all my life in this bag. this is all my life.

just this. it's not because i love things. it's just this is 68 years of my life in this bag. one, two, three. >> is russia committing war crimes from what you see? >> i think so, absolutely. we -- we are simple, ordinary people. we cannot get why this is happening. i'm telling them, but why our houses are being exploded. >> reporter: so many of the people we have spoken to, they will be very strong, very matter

of fact as they talk about what they have been through to get to here where they often get choked up. where they break down is where we ask them who they left behind in ukraine because almost everyone we speak to, they have someone very close to them who stayed behind to fight. remember, many were considered fighting age between 18 and 60. they cannot leave you crepe. we have met 16-year-olds, 15-year-olds who say their father sent them and their young siblings across the border and told them as teenagers to help their mother take care of their siblings, and that trauma, that emotion, it's beyond words. >> just beyond words. thank you as always, alison, for your great reporting on this. we want to go to the middle east

bureau chief for the los angeles times and is reporting now out of ukraine. thank you for joining us. we appreciate it. you have a gut wrenching piece in the l.a. times this weekend, and it is titled "raining rockets, scattered corpses, and existential battle: a 500-mile journey across a week of war." and you go on to say this. it is about more than ukraine. it is a contest between democracy and autotok rasy, freedom and dictatorship, whose implications will scatter across the world. it is not our fight alone, so please don't leave us alone to fight it. it is interesting. this piece coming out this weekend that you wrote and now hearing the ukrainian president in this newly released video talking about to a certain extent how ukraine now feels alone, what more reporting have you had on this?

>> well, of course, what you are seeing, of course there is appreciation and of course the question of anti-aircraft missiles as well. but at the same time, it is worth saying that there is, you know, a desire to see a no fly zone of course. we are seeing destruction inching ever closer to the capitol. today we went over. i have been going there for the last few days. i must say things have changed dramatically in the last few days. before we could walk-through the streets with some degree of safety in the sense that fighting was far off still. now, i mean, the city itself is just really -- i mean, 8 civilians were killed as they were evacuating, so it's become much more dire. >> so much more dire, it seems.

so much more video coming out of people dying, indiscriminate killing by russian soldiers. i'm wondering if ukrainians you are speaking to, if they understand the precarious position that the west is in, that nato is in, the united states is in by bringing more help and how a confrontation between the west and russia could mean so much more for the global community. >> well, i mean, the issue for them is really that they're trying to find safe passage, of course. for them, it is not even a matter of the geopolitical game. it is a sense that this is their country. what i'm hearing the most, actually, is this is our country and we have no choice but to fight. really that's the most common refrain. and before, that was always there, even before the invasion in a sense, that people were his toeic. they seemed almost nonchalant. but at the same time, they

believed they would stay and fight and now you are seeing that, of course. it is actually in a sense very widespread. you see it every place you go to and every check point. there is really a desire to exist. >> one of the assessments i heard about russian president vladimir putin, especially considering he is a former intelligence agent, is that he made a massive miscalculation with all of this, that he underestimated the ukrainian people. nce failure on his part and how long the ukraine yn people could fight, how many would stay belong to fight and lounge they could actually hold out. what is your assessment as to how long the ukrainian military can hold out against russian forces? >> that's a hard question to answer, and i will not surprise too much on it. but i will say this, that, you know, we have been seeing surprising success mostly because it should be said we're

seeing small skirmishes, which would indicate it has been breaking off. the great army hasn't attacked quite widely. and they are building an information war. what i can say is this. it is surprising they have lasted this long, based on what people were saying before, but i'm a photo journalist, so i'm not going to surprise too much more than that. >> los angeles times in ukraine reporting. thank you for all the work you are doing and stay safe. still plenty ahead in this hour, everybody. later tonight, my colleague sat down with the united nations high commissioner for refugees. take a look at this. >> in europe, here in europe, i

don't think i have been trying to reflect, but i don't think that since the second world war more than 70 years ago there has been such a colossal movement of people. we're talking about ten days, one-and-a-half million people in ten days. >> the full interview airing tonight at 8:00 p.m. eastern right here on msnbc. up next, diplomatic efforts are underway for a cease fire, anything really. i will ask an american congress member who participated in a zoom call with president volodymyr zelenskyy, can the u.s. do more to help ukraine? we'll be right back. ukraine we'll be right back. lan for my , but all my employees need something different. oh, we can help with that. okay, imagine this. your mover, rob, he's on the scene

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all right. welcome back, everybody. just moments ago, president volodymyr zelenskyy of ukraine posted a new video on his verified telegram channel saying sanctions on russia are not enough and promising to punish everyone who committed atrocities in this war on ukrainian land. i want to bring in mark, a democrat of texas and a member of the house armed services. congressman, thanks for joining us. we appreciate it. >> good to be with you. >> i want to talk first about this potential deal happening behind closed doors, this potential shipment of fighter jets, soviet air fighter jets from toe land to ukraine back filled by the united states. it requires white house approval. it also requires congressional approval. what is the likelihood this could change the game for ukrainians and get done? >> yeah. no. i think it could be a huge game changer. and i would certainly be for that. we need to give them any sort of assistance that we can without

america and american troops being directly involved in conflict which could obviously lead to a larger escalation. but absolutely. that's what we do here in fort worth. we made fighter jets for a long time here. i don't believe they're the ones they're talking about sending over there. but i understand being able to have that sort of weaponry in this sort of conflict and i also think that if you think about what russia is going through right now, they're having a very hard time advancing. they thought this was going to be easy. and if the ukraines were to get this sort of assistance, it would definitely make putin have to rethink what he's doing right now. >> it's interesting because we're hearing from president volodymyr zelenskyy. i got a read-out of some of the video in which he uploaded. we're trying to get the video now. but in this video, he talks about the fact that he feels as

if world leaders are not reacting enough. western politicians are not reacting enough to the preempted announcement by the russians, that they're not reacting enough to the deaths we're seeing in the streets of ukraine. yes, they're getting aid from the west. they may be getting these fighter jets. sanctions have been placed on moscow, but they're fighting alone. what do you make of this? >> i understand volodymyr zelenskyy's sentiment. i also understand the sentiment of the people of ukraine, to have nuclear power facilities purposefully bombed and shelled. to have missiles strike apartment buildings intentionally, to have people shot at just for protesting. i completely understand what they're going through, and we want to be as helpful as possible.

we don't want to make the situation any source, of course, but we want to get the ukrainian people as much help as we can. we're taking it very seriously. we want the best situation and the best outcome for president volodymyr zelenskyy and the people that he represents in the ukraine. we want to protect democracy in that part of europe. >> two things i want to get from you, congressman. i know you were on that zoom call yesterday with president volodymyr zelenskyy. what was your take-away. >> i was not on the call yesterday. i didn't have a chance to participate on the call. >> got it. >> go ahead. i'm sorry. >> no, no. for some reason i was told you were on the call. so i'm sorry for the misunderstanding on that. the other thing i want to talk about was this debate of the $10 billion aid package. democrats also pushing for a ban of russian oil imports. i want to play some sound for

you and then we'll talk on the other side. >> okay. >> there is very strong bipartisan support to cutoff russian oil and gas sales to the united states. while we're sanctioning them and trying to cripple their economy that we would help them in any way by purchasing their petroleum. but i think the administration wants to make sure we work with our allies. this would have an impact potentially on global oil prices including here at home. >> what's the over/under, congressman, that this is going to happen. the congressman, your colleague, makes a good point. >> i think that there is strong sentiment to make sure that we disinvest from russian oil imports. i also think that we need to make sure that we are being sympathetic and that we understand the plight of people in this country and the united states that are in transportation, for instance.

i was talking to a small transportation truck company owner. and he was saying if oil prices go up, that it's going to really hurt small businesses like the one he has. so we need to make sure that if we do keep russian oil out of the u.s. like we should that we do something to help some of these businesses that are going to invariably be impacted by higher prices. and we need to make sure that as democrats and republicans that we don't politicize any sort of higher prices that people are paying at the pump or in their homes. that is exactly what putin wants to hear. he wants to hear that we are divided and arguing over increases in gasoline prices because we're going to not go with this crude would be playing into his hands.

anyone that hears trying to weaponize higher gas prices, if we are going to get away from russian oil, they need to slap that down and say, don't do that. we are united and we will sacrifice through this together. >> congressman, thank you. still ahead, the latest on the ground in ukraine as russia steps up its offensive creating a catastrophe for civilians in the line of war. we will have a report in richard engel when we come right back. id engel when we come right back.

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russia came to ukraine and we need to pack all our things to get in safe place. and first day of the war we left kyiv to this area. and we were at the house of our friends. so -- and after we went there, after that, we went to bukaviv and now we're here. >> and how did you decide to come here? >> it was really like -- we decided to come here maybe two or three days ago, but we knew that we will get out of ukraine. but in what time, we decided two or three days ago. >> all right.

that was my colleague interviewing a 15-year-old refugee in hunga rrkshungary. we want to turn now to richard engel. >> reporter: a second attempt to create a humanitarian corridor so ukrainians can evacuate the city of mariupol has broken down. ukrainians saying russians opened fire. russians saying the same. it means the people are without food, power, internet and not able to leave the city and still at considerable risk. here in kyiv, the russian forces are slowly making an advance from the northwest near the areas. i spoke to the mayor of kyiv a short while ago, he said he's getting about 10,000 people,

total ukrainians and russians have been killed so far and we're not two weeks into this fight. he anticipates the number will grow considerably, but he believes the city is strong enough to defend itself. i asked him how long he thinks that kyiv could hold out. he said he didn't know. but he thinks it could hold out for a while because the people here have fighting spirit compared to the russians who are fighting for the mission and agenda of one man, vladimir putin. >> the russian offensive according to sources i'm speaking to, the russian offensive is not going well. it is -- it lacks cohesion. i was told the russian special forces are particularly angry because they have been sent into battle without proper support that the national guard forces or the regular army are divided. they are not communicating with each other on the ground, and that overall the battle plan lacks a consistent message with

some units being told that they're operating under a war plan. others operating under what is more of a police action or a special military operation to, quote, unquote de-nazify this country, which is the way vladimir putin is describing it. so much of it goes back to the man that ordered these operations, vladimir putin. yesterday he gave a bizarre speech. first of all, he was speaking to a group of flight attendants, which is a strange place to have a big speech on war and talking about nuclear weapons and the future and potential sovereignty of his country, but that was the forum. that was the location, nonetheless. and in this speech, he was describing how ukraine is run by a bunch of nazis, which of course is not true. he said that the people here are machine gun -- the government here is machine gunning anyone that doesn't agree with it. that there are cam kaz si

vehicles roaming around looking for russian troops to attack. it seemed somewhat unhinged and the angriest speech i have ever heard from vladimir putin. >> all right. our thanks to nbc's richard engel for that. coming up, everybody, searching for a diplomatic solution. we will talk to a former ambassador and intelligence official about what's going on behind the scenes to deescalate the situation on the ground in ukraine. that's coming up. wayfair, you spend less and get way more. so you can bring your vision to life, and save in more ways than one. for small prices, you can build big dreams. spend less. get way more. shop everything home at wayfair today.

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hi, everybody. we seem to be getting some breaking news. a senior defense official tonight saying roughly 95% of the russian forces that were around ukraine are now inside that country. i'm going to read off my phone a bit because we are getting news in about what is happening when it comes to ukrainian forces on the ground and the russian military advance inside the borders of ukraine. saying russian forces continue to isolate the city of kyiv, kharkiv as well, being met with strong ukrainian resistance. the u.s. has observed fighting in the south as well. they have observed ongoing fighting and efforts to.

ukrainian air and missile defense remain effective and in use. the ukrainian military continuing to fly aircraft and to imploy air defense assets as well. both sides being reported have taken losses to both aircraft and missile defense inventoinve. they cannot go in to speak of the numbers being reported when it comes to those losses as well. the u.s. assessing that approximately 600 russian missile launches have occurred since the invasion began and also that they believe ukrainian people in those parts of the country still have means of communication, access to internet and theting from a senior official on the ground. correspondent on the ground there. john and tracy, former officer and fbi special agent.

thank you both for being with us. obviously getting breaking pentagon news there talking about the lay of the land. what the ukrainian military and russian military are doing as well. tracy, i just want to talk about the failure of this cease fire for a humanitarian corridor. it seems that the russian are not allowing it. there is a complete and utter failure when it comes to getting people out of areas being shelled by the russian military. what do you think is happening there? >> you know, i think that it really shows how difficult it is to trust putin and to really take anything that putin has to say seriously. you know, i think that he is trying to play this game almost of emotional tug of war. yes, i'll let people pass through this corridor unharmed. however, he then goes and makes statements typically through force to sort of, i guess, ruffle and puff up his feathers a little bit. that's really what we see with putin. he sort of talks on one side of

his mouth and kind of does something else. what i think this really shows is just how much we really can't take him at his word. >> ambassador, talk to me about the involvement of israeli prime minister bennett. we know he flew to moscow, had a three-hour meeting with vladimir putin where they discussed possible cease fires. nothing comes of it. what do you make of israel's involvement in these talks? >> well, i think israel is doing that because they are a friend of the united states and they also have good relations with moscow. ukraine could have used drones, but they were afraid of what russia would do. so there is no reason to expect anything to come of it. there is no reason he would give

him something he would not give the others. >> we're obviously talking about the failure of these humanitarian corridors. you talk about the fact that vladimir putin cannot be trusted. he's talking out of both sides of his mouth essentially. is there any diplomatic way to negotiate your way out of this thing, considering we're talking about putin who seems to be headed towards a scorched earth mentality when it comes to ukraine. >> everyone said this sounds incredibly pessimistic. i agree. there is no reason to see why any of these diplomatic channels are really going to be successful. i really think it is just for show quite frankly at this point. i agree with you. i don't necessarily see here a diplomatic off ramp. stallin famously said, i trust no one, not even myself.

we know putin very much speaks highly of stallin and i think he operates in that same off space in that he, i don't think, sees a diplomatic off space here. i think he wants to return russia to what their borders were pre-fall of the berlin wall. i think he's always viewed the west as the enemy of that and he's taken issue with the idea of what we calls american exceptionalism. he wants to return, really, russia to the soviet union. i don't think he's going to necessarily stop. i don't see a peaceful off ramp here. >> ambassador, you recently criticize the biden administration for, quote, being weak on sending major weapons systems to ukraine. can you elaborate on that, ambassador? >> well, i don't know if i used the word "weak," but i said cautious, overly cautious.

after the russian buildup in the spring of last year. by serious weapons, not just stingers, but also anti-ship coastal rockets. if we had sent those back even last fall, you wouldn't see those big red parts on the map with control along the sea line and along the black sea line. there is still time to get them there to defend odessa and the coast. you're also looking at anti-missiles to get to ukraine. finally, we got to see those bombers that are right now held by our nato allies to ukraine quickly. the administration has been slow on this. they're getting pressure from the hill and also there's been some public criticism. >> former u.s. ambassador to

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need to know and we're ask the same questions you're screaming at your television. we'll be driven by the facts, not hyperbole. there's a lot of confusing information. some people call it news. it's not. we'll sit here and tell you the truth. today the eyes of the world are on ukraine and the brave people who are fighting to protect their country and their democracy, and their bravery is a reminder that freedom and democracy can never be taken for granted by any of us. >> that was vice president kamala harris in selma today at the anniversary of bloody sunday making remarks about ukraine ahead of her visit to bulkans

later this week. josh letterman has more from latvia. >> reporter: world leaders are pleading with president vladimir putin with russia to allow civilians to evacuate out of harm's way. over the last 24 hours or so putin has spoken with the leaders of france, the uk, turkey and israel. all of them looking for ways to de-escalate this conflict, but none of them hearing from putin that they wanted to hear, that he's willing to go ahead with a ceasefire. president macron sent about an hour and 45 minutes on the phone with putin. macron called for putin to not hit nuclear power plants in ukraine. putin telling the french president he has no plans to

attack nuclear sites in the future, but also saying this special military operation, as russia calls it, will continue until russia's unconditional demands of ukraine are met, namely the demilitarization of ukraine. secretary of state antony blinken made some news indicating that the u.s. is speaking with its allies about banning russian imports of oil. this is a step a lot of countries have called for to cut off a critical source of revenue for the russian government. there's been a lot of reluctance because of the way it could affect prices in the europe and the united states. blinken saying the u.s. is now speaking with poland to try to see if poland might be able to give some of its old soviet era

planes to ukraine to use to fight the russians. that would occur with the u.s. then replenishing poland's stock of aircraft. these are the discussions the u.s. and its allies are having right now. the u.s. and nato still insisting they won't put boots on the ground in ukraine and will not do what president zelenskyy has been calling for, imposing a no-fly zone over ukraine. >> thank you, josh letter. ally velshi reported from the ukrainian border. >> reporter: did you pick up the things you could carry and come to hungary? >> we had to fight.

there is no work to do. we can't make a living without work. we cannot finance our lives with no money and the country has stopped existing. we had to leave. >> how are you feeling right now? >> not really -- i'm scared. my country, my town, all my friends are there. my friends are sleeping on the -- something like this. it's not really comfortable. >> i was living -- i had to take all my life. this is all my life. this is heart breaking. it's not because i love things. it's just this is 68 years of my life in this bag.

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