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development. that follows the collapse of another cease-fire agreement in the battered battered southern city of mariupol. the second day of a row, an attempt to evacuate civilians from the area was halted after russian forces violated the agreement with a barrage of shelling. up north in a village close to kyiv, residents there desperately trying to escape. this is what they were met with. in that same city, the new york times is reporting that at least four civilians, two of which were children are dead after russian forces hit a bridge being used by people trying to flee. ukrainian forces have repeatedly accused moscow backed fighters of it in -- which as we noted would be one of many warcrimes that is being alleged. here's what the head of the european union had to say about

that on sunday. >> do you think that russia is committing war crimes in ukraine? >> i think that there needs to be a strong and clear investigation on this question. we need to make the case real clear and without any doubt. but whatever you have just described, has to be looked into. >> and her words come as the ukrainian ambassador to the u.s. pleaded with western allies to do something, anything to help. >> we now see that putin has retreated and his war criminals retreated two tactics of bombing outs. bombing us from the sky. in the street, everywhere. that is why we need the support. whether it is a no-fly zone, whether it is massive supply or anti air defense, whether it is airplanes, we need all of them. >> and the business community

continues to step up. just hours ago, tiktok and netflix joined a growing list of international companies that are suspending operations and access inside of russia. and it comes just as the international community tries to top putin down again. earlier today, the russian leader spoke with the both the turkish and french presidents. and a source tells and bc news that francis emmanuel macron pressed putin on his seizure of ukraine and urged him to coordinate humanitarian corridors so that ukrainian citizens could escape battle areas. macron's push comes just hours before both sides are supposed to meet for a third round of negotiations on monday. on monday excuse me. we start this hour with nbc's cal perry live with us in lviv where he has been throughout this entire conflict. as we just have that big picture overview there, we talk about the politics and the diplomacy, some of the developments on the business side, trying to squeeze russia even more. let us start with those negotiations set to kick off on monday after more civilian deaths and another broken

cease-fire. is there any hope that these talks could at least changed the dynamic on the ground for civilians? >> i think at best the ukrainian government is suspicious at worst we won't even see talks. i can tell you a couple of reasons, the main one is the one you lead with. which is that it is hard to create humanitarian corridors and evacuate civilians in the civilians do not trust that they're going to be safe doing so. today we had a number of instances across the country, captured not just by my colleagues at nbc news, but my colleagues that verified videos of civilians being targeted as they left the city. so central place that this is happening is the cities in and around marrow poll, around the black sea. it's an on again off again thing. ending in civilians being killed. the dynamic here is that the ukrainian is suspicious that russia is engaging in cease-fire talks to regroup. this is something that the russians did in syria,

something they did in chechnya, something that the ukrainian government says they are suspicious of. they do not want to give the russians a chance to regroup, if these karlyn boys are bogged down, if the cities are being contested and again, if the air battle is uncertain. why sit down and negotiate with somebody who do not trust. look, the flip side of that is, it is vital for this government to get civilians out of these areas. so they will go to the peace talks. they will go to the river that divides belarus and ukraine and sit down and talk, in the hopes that there will be a cease-fire. but the bottom line is, after what has happened today and after who arrived at those peace talks on behalf of the russian government, last time, there is little hope these talks will stick. the ukrainian government is going to go to the talks to show that they are willing to negotiate, even if hopes are not high. >> i was going to say, even volodymyr zelenskyy says he does not want to talk to vladimir putin. he has to talk to vladimir putin. i expect that tone is trickling down to all of the ukrainian

negotiation team. starting us off this hour, cal thank you stay safe my friend. from that we cross the border where we find msnbc's ali velshi, stationed near the hungry ukraine border. ali, it is good to see you my friend. if there is some kind of cease-fire or at least a humanitarian corridor that is established, it will mean that at the place where you are standing, going to see an influx of refugees. what have you heard from people on the ground there over the past couple of days? and if in fact that influx happens, whether they have the capacity to deal with it. >> yeah. the people have been coming here. more people have been going to poland and hungary. but hungary is getting the second largest of people. but 12 and a half percent of all people leaving ukraine. and they are not coming from the closed parts of ukraine generally speaking. we are talking to people from kharkiv and donbas today. and dnipro. they're coming all the way from hungary. and if this humanitarian corridors open, many more will

come out. they are timely that their families are still back there. so the people in hungary are getting ready for this. there are more people coming and every day i have been talking to refugees on a daily basis. hearing their experiences. but this morning i talk to somebody interesting, he is not a refugee, he is a deputy mayor of a city, about 250 kilometers from here. nine days ago, he came here to drop off supplies. i figured he would just go back home and he decided after what he saw, that he would stay. it is taking a toll on the hungarian civilians who are opening their arms to the ukrainians, but they are doing it. and it is pretty meaningful. listen to what he told me. >> it hurts you to see this? >> of course. you cannot prepare yourself for this, you can't. but, after now i have experienced. nobody has experience in this war situation here. but we have to focus. you won't solve everything and

every peoples lives, but you have to do one day. it is my subjective experience and it is the suggestion for or five tasks which is done, and it is okay, then you and your soul may be okay. >> and this is the kind of spirit that i have seen. he was saying, i cannot solve their problems for them, but if i can solve a few small tasks, talking about fixing toilets and stuff like that, your soul will be okay. because he felt that it has been so damaged by seeing what they are seeing. when you meet these refugees on a daily basis and you hear their harrowing stories and their entire lives in the bags that they can carry, you have seen this before in other parts of the world, it never changes. you can never be prepared for. that experience of seeing these people who are fleeing for their life, for a better life,

wanting to go home but not knowing with any certainty what comes next, it is devastating. >> to your point ali, what i've seen in the past in terms of what i've reported on, this is a generational trauma that gets passed down from one generation to another, even if one generation of ukrainians does well and survives, it will haunt future generations to know has happened to their families. ali velshi, excellent reporting as always, it is good to see, we will speak to you again. let's continue this discussion with clint watts, he is an nbc national security analyst and author of messing with the enemy, surviving in a social media world of hackers, terrorists, russians and fake news. clint, it is great to see you as always. let's start with some of the new reporting that we have just gotten at nbc news within the last hour or so. senior defense official telling us that he believes that roughly 95% of russian forces have now been committed into the ukraine. so the forces that were stationed in neighboring countries and the outside have now been deployed to the ukraine. and we have that here on the

map if you just take a look at it. it shows the russian troop locations on the southern border. what's, from a military perspective, can you tell us about the strategy here? what is the military strategy here that is emerging 12 days into this? >> amen, what you are seeing is in the south, a very different situation from what you are seeing in the north. remember creamy and 2014 was taken successfully. and those military units, at least in my opinion, much stronger and much better prepared. when you saw initially was make a right hook out of crimea and go towards marry a poll. we've heard a lot about maria poll. this is where they were trying to create the corridors. he showed a brief clip there as i was coming on. and that siege warfare and i think that is an indication of what they were going to do in kyiv later on. it creates a land bridge with the forces in donbas, which is the breakaway are here to the east of kyiv, which essentially putin used as justification. separately, to look at the

towns of kherson and nicola. to bridge cities, over major river. which they can continue to the west, those areas that you see there above odessa, they will potentially be able to go all the way to what is a contested area known as transnistria. right on the border with mel doba. it would link up russian peacekeepers, which are not peacekeepers, but really soldiers and would cut ukraine off from the sea. that would be a major reset back for ukraine. they would have no access to resupply from the sea. and remember, ukraine supplies a lot of the week to the rest of the world, that would be impossible to export moving forward. you see detail east, towards donbas, they're bringing in a loop, where they're bringing all their forces into a perimeter so that they can move on to kyiv and essentially take the eastern half of ukraine, even with that convoy bogged down to the north. week one, we heard a lot about russian setbacks and weaknesses. militarily they were

overestimated. we too we are seeing some russian successes at a pretty continuation margin. >> one of the things that has been discussed repeatedly is contesting airspace. obviously the ukrainians are asking for a no-fly zone. that has repeatedly been denied, at least for now by nato. and certainly the united states. however, one area where the u.s. and its allies can make a difference and we are starting to see some traction on this, the u.s. is i understand is in talks with poland to potentially backfill ukrainian fleets of fighter planes. that can basically allow ukraine to compete in this contested airspace. could that deal of poland providing russian jets to ukrainian pilots actually give a chance at victory. i understand that they would not be able to fly on short notice on american made fighter jets, but russian ones that they've trained on in the past appears that poland has some of them. >> that is right, and there is two parts here. aircraft an anti aircraft.

you saw what is called lethal aid military shipments, reports of stinger missiles being brought in, anti aircraft weapons being brought in. that is really the reason why the ukrainians have sort of been able to push russia back. they've downed a impressive number of russian jets and they still contest the airspace to a degree. separately they would need more aircrafts and the question is, how would that be re-supplied? is that bringing ukrainian pilots across the border to get into those planes and essentially fly them back across the border? would putin see that as an action by a nato country? this is the big open question marks that i think are really about the bait. so we have to ask, how many ukrainian pilots are there that do not have airplanes that could essentially fly these aircraft. i think that is another complicating factor, has not really been worked out. and poland, at least in those discussions that i saw late this afternoon, and some sort of a debate about how much they're really willing to do that, if there was more just a statement a couple of weeks ago about things that might do. it is unclear at this point. but no matter what happens,

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president vladimir putin. and against those of ukraine, nato and the west. in fact, in 2017, trump spotted the conspiracy theory that ukraine, not russia, interfered in the 2016 election. in 2019, he ousted marina bonavista as the u.s. ambassador to ukraine. rest assured, pro kremlin activists were happy to stop a crusader in the country. and then, don't forget, trump repeatedly refused to grant presidents ellen ski white house meeting. it's a symbolic gesture. but it is a crucial one. that would've signaled the west to continue backing ukraine in the face of russia's aggressions. and then there's the matter of trump putting his personal lawyer, rudy giuliani, in charge of u.s. ukraine relations. now, consider all of this. and then put yourself in putin shoes. why risk international pariah by invading ukraine when an american president is actively

undermining the country? joining me now to discuss this is our sunday night paddle. melinda, deputy director of the councils. tommy nichols, contributing writer for the atlantic. he's also the writer of our own worst enemy. and molly, contributing writer for the atlantic. it's great to have all three of you with us. molly, i'll start with you. to discuss this kind of historic with what republicans have been talking about for the past couple of days, then being pushed out there by fox news, suddenly, they're trying to paint trump as this anti-russian -- they would tell you one of trump's biggest accomplish is that he undermine nato and the relationship. >> yes, this is an animation talking point. and i actually wrote about. it because i sort of saw it coming. trump has up until about five days ago, was raising putin and saying that he's so smart. he even said that putin was smart to, you, know sent troops

to the southern border. putin had such because of their peacekeeping. with trump, he is always either repeating russian propaganda, like he did with the election. or he is kind of praising putin. so the idea that he would then be tough on russia is completely insane. we've seen no evidence to support that. and the idea that the gop is going to pivoted that is kind of nuts. and i think democrats should be seeing more. this is not what happens. the last four years, if we saw anything, was that trump was very negative on ukraine. and constantly talked about how was rock. and spread lies. he was very supportive of vladimir putin. >> tom, this isn't one of the segments where we're just trying to bash republicans for whatever it is. it's trying to understand the mindset of republicans in this conflict. because there are some

republicans who are engaged in this historical revision-ism effort. but then you have others who are still seemingly getting their talking points from the kremlin. because if you take a look on, friday you have the coolest macgregor, who was appointed by donald trump as a senior adviser to the secretary of defense. he was on fox news, and he accused zelenskyy, the ukrainian president, being a puppet. and said that russia has been, quote, two gentle. on their attack on ukraine. despite this horrendous imagery that we are seeing come out of what russia is doing in ukraine. what do you make of this current identity crisis within the republican party? because i'm old enough to remember the republican party from the 80s and 90s who did not talk about the former soviet union this way. certainly, not after the collapse of russia or the ussr at the time. >> i'm old enough to have voted for ronald reagan in the middle of the cold war. so imagine how i feel. but, let's understand that there are two separate things going on in the gop.

first of all, with people like macgregor and others, you have to understand that they're a group of right-wing republicans who really think of putin as this kind of white christian savior of civilization. with whom we can make some sort of -- we can link arms and make some sort of common defense against the islamic world. and against being coachman dove left-wing civilization. you know, the drag queens in the case. you know, beginning, spell in reformers. and all the other bogeyman of the right. that's different from the gop elected's who are drifting back and forth and trying to find some place to land on this issue. because they are fundamentally unserious people. they don't care about foreign policy, they don't care about the defense of your out, they don't care about anything except their own careers. so, what you are seeing, is a

bunch of cranks and cracked pots on one side. and a bunch of utterly hollow opportunists on the other. and the republican party, as the vessel of any kind of coherent foreign policy ideology is really a coherent ideology other than this kind of general, you know, white resentment that gravitates towards people like putin. it is really dead. so, it is a crack up in the republican party. but again, a kind of cooks on one side and opportunist on the other. and putting can really count on a vote to divide america. and that's similar for the reasons molly was just talking about. >> linda, can you give us the view on how the gop of all from the party of reagan's cold war mentality to where they are now? or where they were just prior to the russian invasion.

>> so i don't think we have time to go into all of that but there is some problems with some of the arguments that you guys have laid out. so, zelenskyy did get the white house meeting last year. and there's some other problems with some of the other arguments because of the dog. trump was terrible on ukraine, he was obnoxious, he got rid of ivanovich. he brought about -- but his actual policy was not bad. he was actually pretty tough on russia. and i think that gets lost in the debate. would he or would he not have gone in now? so, the interesting thing is that the russians are more scared of trump than they are of biden. the russians think that biden is weak. and that was one of the reasons why they calculated that they could go at it now. they were scared of trump because he was irrational. and he's erratic. so, i'm not sure, this is a highly speculative show but i think that has to be part of

the discussion as well. >> fair enough. but let me ask you really quickly, do you feel that trump weekend the european or transatlantic alliance. or we can nato? or sit in the senate to do that? >> absolutely. i think that's unquestionably true. but i think the important thing is -- >> sorry, can i just follow up on that real quick. if that was something that trump did set out, would not be in putin's calculation of saying, if he's weak in the alliance for me, then i don't necessarily have to do anything because the major threat to me that he perceived has been weakened for me without even having to fire bullet? >> no. it's a lot bigger than that. so, one of the reasons that he won, in one of the reasons why vladimir putin won it is because he saw weakness everywhere. he saw weakness in europe. he saw weakness in the united states. and he saw weakness in ukraine. there was no want to stop. it wasn't just about trump. it's much broader than that. >> all right guys, i'm gonna ask all of you to stick around. melinda, ice appreciate. that stick around, we have a lot more to discuss after the break.

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ukraine, an option that the u.s. and nato are rejecting to avoid a full fledged war in europe. i asked a member of the ukrainian parliament about this earlier in the weekend. he told me that conflict between the u.s. and russia is already inevitable, no fly zone or not, watch. >> this will get out. we think that putin has lost his mind and he will definitely try to attack one nato country in the future. regrettably, i think one way or another, the u.s. will be at direct military confrontation with russia at some point. because putin is just completely lost his mind and he is completely irrational. we asked to do it quickly now and to stop him. that is the only language that he understands. my panel is back with me. tom, what do you make of the parliamentarians argument there, that there is no way for the u.s. to avoid direct conflict with russia at this point. >> i think that is wrong. but before we get to that, i

cannot let it stand to say that trump was somehow tough on russia. there has to be a correction involved. because the policies of the u.s. government were tough on russia, put in place by bush and obama. trump was open because he was trying to get other people to break the law to undermine those existing policies. because he did not want to be perceived as rolling back those policies. he was trying to undermine the policies of his own government, by getting other people to break the law and to weekend ukraine. and that is why he was impeached. so it is not correct to say that he was tough. the existing policies were tough, trump had left them in place and then broke the law and reached the point of impeachment by trying to undermine those policies. i have to make that correction. as for the parliamentarians point, it may well be that at some point russia is going to last show. but nato is a defensive

alliance. and what people are out there arguing for right now, is a preventative war against russia. we are nato should something mobilize and attack and go into the skies over ukraine and start destroying russian assets. people want to argue explicitly for going to war against russia right now, then i think they should say that. and i do not criticize president zelenskyy or anyone in the government of kyiv right now. they are fighting for their lives and they are fighting for the existence of their country, i understand they're trying to mobilize all of the support that they can get, but the idea that nato should go from being an alliance that defends the territory of its members, to being an offensive organization that jumps into this conflict based on the possibility that at some point putin may lash out, i think that is simply an argument for going to war, and i think that if people want to have that discussion they should flame explicitly. >> kamala harris addressed ukraine before her speech, take

a listen to this. >> today the eyes of the world are on ukraine and the brave people who are fighting to protect their country and their democracy. and their bravery is a reminder, that freedom and democracy can never be taken for granted. by any of us. >> tony blinken, the secretary of state, stepped in to ukrainian soil i believe yesterday or the day before. he is obviously just coming off of a trip in europe where he met with nato allies, and the vice president is set to travel to eastern europe next week. how important is it to have these high-level visits both on a diplomatic statewide but also on a policy side to our allies both in europe and in ukraine in the middle of this war? >> i think that it is really important i think that the biden administration has done an extremely good job of getting in there with the nato

and making sure that everyone was together and putting together a coalition and having a very good message, which is we are for democracy and we are not for autocracy and we are going to support ukraine and biden talked about it in his speech to. i think that there is an opportunity here for democrats to see will republicans did. we saw that they were very chummy with putin. and here is an opportunity for democrats to say no, we are on the side of democracy. and i think that is huge and i also think that it happens to have the benefit of being the right thing to do. right? democracy is what has gotten us through. and so i think that it is very good. and i think that it is very -- i certainly feel better knowing that there is a white house filled with people who know how to do this. and who have had experience with government. and who are not tweeting crazy stuff or trying to get dirt on their political opponent.

>> mueller -- sorry melinda, i wanted to get your thoughts on this new policy proposal if you will. secretary of state tony blinken saying that would give a greenlight to nato countries deciding to give fighter jets to the ukrainians. noting that they're in talks with poland over how to do so. how sharp of an escalation will this be perceived in moscow, within vladimir putin's inner circle? and is this from your perspective the right thing that the u.s. should be doing now? >> absolutely. we should've done it days ago. it is absolutely the right move. and it is unlikely to cause an escalation. if you keep the -- look there is ways to do this without causing an escalation. we've spent a lot of equipment and there is ways to paint the jet to make sure that the russians do not know where they're coming from. so we should absolutely do this, especially if the no fly zone

as a no go. >> what do you mean paint the jet so that the russians do not know where they're coming from? >> so that is correct. you could paint them over. one of the concerns that the russians will know where they are coming from. some military specialists of said to paint them, that is the easiest solution. >> all right. linda, tom, molly, thank you so much for your time and expertise tonight, greatly appreciated. still ahead, inside of russia's capture of ukraine's power plant, plus the blanks that refugees are going to get to get help, stay with us. >> some countries help ukraine, help ukrainian cancer patients to get better treatment and with the help of my friends, i hope to meet doctors you'll --

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that russia is reportedly in control of the ukrainian nuclear power plant that it had seized on friday. the international atomic energy agency says that quote, ukraine report that any action of plant management, including measures related to the technical operations of the six reactor units, require private approval by the russian commander. here to get into all of this is a distinguished fellow with the quincy center and a former u.s. diplomat and president of the global situation room ink. gentlemen, great to have all of you with us. president zelenskyy speaking out this week saying that an explosion at the site would have been quote, the end of europe. the u.s. envoy to the un saying quote that the un nearly averted a nuclear catastrophe. exactly how great put an explosion beyond his nuclear facility? >> i don't think it is quite at that level. quite at the chernobyl level. but it is at the fukushima

level. this would have been quite serious. could've been multiple ways that they could have been a meltdown. that there could've been a breach of the containment facility. could've seen an artillery shell hit the spent fuel ponds. which are unprotected, completely unprotected. having those fuel rods feet up and explode. this is a disaster waiting to happen. it is not over yet. the fact that they are operating at gunpoint, under duress, without a shift change, cut off from their family. even under the best of circumstances, operating a nuclear reactors tricky business, but this, this is disaster. >> brett, even though we have avoided an explosion thankfully right now by the grace of god as ambassador greenfield said, russia has tight control over this facility, why is this situation particularly dangerous at this point. it gives russia leverage, if not on the battlefield, off the battlefield, in terms of electricity supply being used

across europe. look, what we witnessed in the attack on this nuclear facility is just how rock plus russia is ready to be. it speaks to the danger that ukraine and his neighbors are in and clearly as president zelenskyy has underlined, immediate threats to the rest of europe requires the rest of the international community and the united states in particular to look at what additional measures we should be taking to protect not only this facility, but other nuclear facilities that ukraine has across its country. because russia has not shown a commitment to steer clear of these kinds of sensitive targets. joe, approximately 95% of russia's forces that were previously on masks along the border are now inside of ukraine. what happens if they take

control of other similar facilities? what concern to the most about ukraine's nuclear facilities being controlled entirely by russia? we >> sure, just to be clear. this is never happened before. a new killer power planters never been attacked. a nuclear power plant has never been seized. a new killer -- has never been forced to operate at gunpoint. so this is uncharted territory. what does a russian -- do you think that they're engineers? that russian engineers accompanied these tanks forces? i doubt. it and it's moving on the second largest nuclear plant in ukraine as we speak. for more reactors will come on the threat for these attack. you're risking, number one, a meltdown. some kind of meltdown that will damage or activity in the ground, water and in the air. you're looking at contamination. just weeks that could come out and might not be explosive.

but it could contaminate the site. and finally, when you're looking at this gross violation of international law, as brett said, this is a brutal war that apparently has no limits for the russians. they just don't care. they are attacking at will at any target that comes into their site. it's going to get worse before it gets resolved. >> does that basically, joe, does that weaken our billet-y? and i say our ability as in the west. the west ability to resolve this conflict that's not gonna be unfavorable terms. forget the nuclear weapons. we've talked about gaining out. what would happen if the united states and russia would go to war. but just the fact that they have this leverage of these nuclear facilities, is that, in of itself, enough to tip the balance to russia's favor in the outcome of this? >> no. i don't look at the seizures as

leverage. i take them as one more reason why the west might have to go in. if there is such an accident or the threat of sabotage for these plans, that might tip the balance. then concerns about engaging russian forces because of the obvious risk of no killer escalation might be overshadows, overcome. by the actual threats that are happening on the ground. but i think seizing these is a liability for putin's invasion. not an acid. >> brett, i'll give you a chance to respond to that. what is your thought on that. do you see the same way? what is your assessment? is this a red line that maybe this is the straw that breaks the back of the western forces to get involved? >> amen, all have to share a story. i was talking to my eight-year-old son today. and obviously, the images of civilians that have been targeted in these rates, additionally, the attack on

this nuclear facility have him very word. and he was asking why is the u.s. not doing more. what are we doing. and the legal defense of weapons that we've provided. but i was really at a loss to try and explain to a word eight year old, here in the u.s., why we were doing everything that we could. why he would be safe, and obviously, our friends in europe and elsewhere would be safe. i think that there are some serious questions that loom large over the situation. i believe, and i've worked in that position, and i know that the pressure, i know that they obviously have to balance a whole lot of factors. but i think that the u.s. in this moment has to look at all of the potential risk, all the potential dangers. we were one step away from the major nuclear disaster. we've gotta do more to prevent

the next one. >> i want to ask you joe, really quickly -- >> and your previous panel that was talking about the risk of a no fly zone, you, know the war with russia, all those reasons, i do not think nato should intervene. but we may have to. only if this thing gets out of control. if there is a mass casualty event which shelling that kills hundreds of ukrainians, it could just tip the balance and force us to do what we don't want to do. which is get into a war with russia. >> really quickly, joe, do you share this assessment that was put out by the u.s. embassy in kyiv that said that the nuclear power plant constitutes a war crime? >> absolutely. it is against the convention to attack infrastructure, to attack civilians. and there's a separate invention from attacking nuclear power plants. which is why no one's ever done it before. it's extremely dangerous. this is a terrorist act. it is just that the terrorists

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