good to be with you. i am katy tur. the situation in ukraine is bad and it's getting even worse. more civilians are coming under fire as they try to escape

russia's war. we want to warn you the images in this show are difficult to see. they are images of war, uncensored and unfiltered. there are multiple reports of russia breaking cease-fires meant to citizens to evacuate, and residents tried to cross into the capital hoping to find some cover. the only way out of that city and into kyiv was over a river, and ukrainians had taken out a bridge to keep russian forces from advancing. alex crawford was there as mothers, children and fathers and the elderly climbed through and over the rubble to get to the other side. >> translator: i was helping people evacuate, and i wanted to give chocolate to a child, and only the other survived, and the

child hit by shrapnel in the head died immediately. all of them died. >> putin says they are shot attacking civilians. what would you say to that? >> they are shooting at schools on hospitals, they are shooting everywhere all the time for the last three days. they show us the damage done to their home and the residential buildings around them and in their street. >> when we got out of our home, i saw five, six shells maybe. every building was destroyed from having been hit. >> later in the same down where the terrified people spoke to the news, a russian bomb fell and it was captured on camera.

[ bleep ] [ bleep ] >> what you see next in that video is a crowd that runs toward a family that was caught in the blast. the mother -- the bomb killed a mother, her teenage son, her younger daughter and a family friend. you can see them on the road still with their luggage, still with what little they tried to carry away from the war with what they were trying to take with them to safety. we want to warn you what we are about to show you is particularly difficult to look at in case you need to turn away. we are showing it because we feel strongly war should not be censored and made to look better than it is, and that being said we will only show it once.

our next guest saw it happen and will join me next. in the port city of mariupol, they had no heat and no water for several days, and there are reports russia won't stop shelling in violation of the cease-fires that are meant to allow people to get out. according to the united nation' human rights office, many children have been killed since the invasion, and the u.n. believes the number is high. with that mounting death toll, a third round of talks were held today and russia put forth a proposal to allow citizens from kyiv or kharkiv to evacuate but only into belarus. and ukraine rejected that.

richard, tell me what it's like there today? i have to say the scenes of people trying to get over the river are excruciating to see. >> reporter: so we were there today and there's a bridge down, and you showed pictures of the single blank that they are going across on foot, and the ukrainians blew up the bridge to slow down the russian advance, but now that russian troops have moved to the other side of that bridge, the people who stayed behind and are still there have just that one narrow slippery causeway to cross in order to come here into the heart of kyiv. according to the local mayor of that particular suburb, there have been about 10,000 people that made that precarious

journey over the single wooden plank bridge, and as they are doing it they have come under attack. the reason they are come into the center of kyiv right now is because the russian advance is not just on the -- on kyiv's doorstep, but it's trying to break into the city itself. it is not just that they are in this area, but we have heard multiple explosions, and we can see flashes in the distance along the northern edge of this city. they are still at a distance, but we have seen tracer fire and we have heard the explosions, and it seems russia is now trying in earnest to make a penetration into kyiv itself, and so far it has not been successful as far as we know. the people are heavily determined and there are many, many ukrainian troops and

volunteers at checkpoints across the city. >> if they are able to get into kyiv, are they safe there? >> reporter: are the people safe there? yes, for now the people who are coming into kyiv are safe. there's not gunfights in the city, nor is there heavy shelling. it's a city that is bracing for a russian attack. there have been air strikes, some missile strikes, but now all the attention is focused at the moment on the northern flank where the russians are trying to move into the city. this talk as you mentioned, of humanitarian corridors have not materialized, and they are trying to open up corridors for mariupol and when people have

left they have come under attack, and the russians say it's the ukrainians that were violating. we were there. it was the russians who were firing. you know where the russians are and you know where the firing is coming from. >> richard engel, thank you very much. also joining me from kyiv is photo journalist, lindsey. she's a macarthur genius grant winner and covered every conflict and humanitarian crisis of her generation, including afghanistan, iraq and syria. and also joining us another journalist covering conflict in the middle east and investigated corruption in ukraine. lindsey, you took that image that has been everywhere now, that family lying on the side of the road. tell me what happened there. >> we were at the location that richard was just describing. i went very early yesterday

morning to try and catch that scene of civilians crossing. right after i arrived i could sense that the mood was different. there was a lot of tension in the air. there were not that many civilians coming across. there was a steady stream. we found a position where there were ukrainian military lined up behind a brick wall, a cement wall, and they were not taking positions but they were there to help civilians across, and help carry children to safety and luggage and what not. we were standing behind this wall and about 15 minutes in a mortar round came at us, but about 200 meters away. i assumed they were targeting a position off in the distance and slowly they kept sort of zeroing in on the position of the path of the civilians. there were three or four rounds, each time a round came in it

came closer and closer to the path that was very well known, there were many journalists that had documented it the day before, and the video you showed was of andre who i have been working with the last three weeks. we were very, very lucky. the mortar came between us and the family. you said the mother and two of her children were killed and somebody who was helping them cross, the family friend. we're unsure whether he survived. >> russia said they are not targeting civilians, but you just laid out right there that this was a well-known passage, this was not a position for the ukrainian military. they were trying to get people across. tell me what you're seeing. is russia not targeting civilians? >> well, i think it's very important -- right now the role of journalists is very important, because a lot of people say things and we really

have to see it with our own eyes. we heard russia is targeting civilians. we have seen footage, but for me as a "new york times" photographer, i have to see it and document it and this is a situation where i watched the russian military bracket their air strikes on to the civilian path, and they started away from it and came closer and closer with each round. to me it was clearly intentional. the path of the civilians was well known and there was no mistake it was targeting civilians. >> tell me about the people trying to get out of earpin. >> volunteers tried to deliver bread and grain, but it was quickly depleted.

some were blocked by russian forces not letting them leave even though some of them are sick or injured or in a bad situation. others were reluctant to leave because they are afraid russia will mortar them like we have seen happen, or shoot them pointblank because others have seen and heard of people just getting shot by the russian forces. i spoke to people today that said when they ventured to leave, to escape across that little river, people were looking at them like they were completely nuts, like they were heading towards certain death but fortunately they survived and made it out okay. >> you talk about the lack of utilities there. how is the food situation there? >> some people have food. some people have not had food. i can't provide a global view on it, but there's certainly food

shortages. all the stores and pharmacies are closed and those that do have food should be running out soon as far as i am aware. >> lindsey, what are you prepared for next? >> every day is different. i think the trend is for us to see what happens overnight, speak to colleagues, monitor the reports and then decide. safety changes every day. that's obviously something we have to take into consideration. we will see what happens overnight and then decide tomorrow. >> igor, how about you? >> i will also adjust to the situation on the fly. obviously things can change very quickly, and i'm going to just pay attention to the situation and try to respond as quickly as i can with the aid of my colleagues. there are several of us here and we will do our best to show the world exactly what russia is doing to ukraine and to kyiv. >> what about president

zelenskyy? he's sending out messages and telling his people to fight. what is that doing to the mind-set of ukrainians? >> i think president zelenskyy has the same mind-set as his countrymen, his country people, which is this determination and unwillingness to back down and keep fighting to the end. zelenskyy is on the same wavelength as the people, and the russians are able to fight forces without taking losses, and they are trying to force a surrender or psychological break through the pressure on the civilians, and that's not enough to break ukraine or zelenskyy in my opinion. >> thank you for joining us and bringing us the truth of what

you are seeing there down on the ground. please do stay safe. more than 1.7 million people have fled ukraine since the start of russia's war. it's the fastest growing refugee crisis since world war ii. two-thirds of the refugees crossed the boarder into poland according to poland's border guard. hundreds of thousands of ukrainians are in a country they do not know unsure about where they will end up and whether they will ever be able to go back home. with that me now from poland is kelly cobiella. she has been there for us for ten days now, since the start of the crisis. in that time she has seen nearly a million ukrainians cross over the border. that's a stunning number in so short a period of time. just tell us what it has been like. >> reporter: well, we have seen the response progressively grow. we have also seen the numbers

progressively grow. in fact today the polish border guard is telling us there's increased traffic at the border yet again. 42,000 people arriving by 7:00 this morning. poland on track to hit yet another record number of refugees entering this country today. when you take a look at the numbers in the past three days, you can see the sharp rise. 106,000 refugees crossing on friday, and then 129,000 on saturday. yesterday the number was 142,000. the need is immense, katy, as we have been talking to these people and we hear similar stories. we spoke to a woman that arrived with just a couple small backpacks and her two young children. a 2-year-old boy, konstantin and her 8-year-old girl, margarete.

she could not carry anymore belongings. take a listen to what we said. how are your children? >> they're too little to understand what is happening around them. i think it's good because i think that people -- the children of older age were scared, they are crying all the time. >> reporter: so many children that we have seen crossing the border at the pedestrian crossing, we have seen them at the train station and have seen the guards helping them off the station and carrying them because their moms are tired and have been carrying them for 24 hours and longer. it's shocking to see. and to see it over and over and over again and no let up.

>> think about a toddler that can't walk for a long time, and they way 20 or 30 pounds, and carrying them for a very long time. you are also talking about the people going back into ukraine and there are a lot of ukrainian men and women going back to fight for their country. have you seen any foreign fighters show up? anyone from countries outside of ukraine looking to take up arms? >> reporter: we have heard the stories and we have heard the reports that people from outside ukraine -- nonukrainian citizens are joining the fight. we have not seen that ourselves. we talked to several men and a few women over the past several days that are going back. every day we're at the train station there on the border, you see a line of people waiting to take the train back into ukraine. that hasn't let up either. but most of the people -- well, all of the people that we have spoken to are going back to

fight are, in fact, ukrainians. >> kelly cobiella, kelly thank you so much. up next, josh letterman has a look at the troop deployment along nato's eastern flank. and president zelenskyy is helping to lead a group of women to fight off the russian invasion. and then the iron curtain, the crackdown on reporting inside russia's borders. (vo) right now, the big switch is happening across the country. small businesses are fed up with big bills

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reviewing the global posture of our forces to include, of course, here in europe, and we have to factor in any developments, any changes in the threat and we will do that. when it comes to questions such as permanent basing, these questions will come up and we will look to answer them in the

context of doing the review of our posture. but just to be very clear, no, there's no decision of that kind. >> joining us, secretary of state antony blinken saying they are considering a troops in the baltic areas because of the russian aggression. joining me now is josh letterman that got an exclusive look at deployments in latvia. why are they building up the deployments when russia said multiple times this is just about ukraine? >> reporter: katy, when we here president biden and others say an attack on one is an attack on all in nato article 5, it sounds hypothetical.

but here it's felt real, and also by the folks in latvia. the battlefield scenario these war games are simulating are entirely real. what message do you think exercises like this send to our potential adversaries? >> they send that we are ready and we are in a 30-member alliance that is based on common values of freedom. >> reporter: when president putin says nato's expansion into

eastern europe threatens russia. this is what he's talking about. last month the u.s. sent an additional 70,000 troops to the europe, activated for the first time in its history to defend nato territory. the u.s. deployed about 800 troops to the baltic nations as russia moved into ukraine. plus apache attack helicopters made in the u.s. this morning u.s. troops are playing the attackers. italian troops on the other side playing the defenders. they switch sides regularly to ensure they are ready for everything. >> we are training together in case any nation or other alliance were to impede upon nato. >> reporter: katy, as the west tries to show they are going to stand up for nato, and here in

the baltics, they are getting visitors, and just today the defense secretary announced the u.s. is sending another 500 troops to europe to shore up the continent defenses and that brings the troops in europe to about 100,000. >> josh, thank you. coming up, i will be joined to a former aide fighting back against the russian invasion. first, how ukrainians are turning to their faith for strength. th mine's unlisted. try boost® high protein with 20 grams of protein for muscle health. versus 16 grams in ensure high protein. boost® high protein also has key nutrients for immune support. boost® high protein. ♪ got my hair ♪ boos ♪ got my head ♪also has key nutrients ♪ got my brains ♪ ♪ got my ears ♪ ♪ got my heart ♪ ♪ got my soul ♪ ♪ got my mouth ♪

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known as ukraine's bible belt. they are finding strength in their faith as they fight for their country. joining me is nbc news correspondent, matt bradley. tell me what you found there? >> reporter: we found a city that is rallying, as you said, around faith, but not just faith around religion or faith in god but faith in ukraine, in this belief in their country. one of the things we kept hearing, especially from that mayor, is the ukrainians have vested the russian forces more than they ever did, and those that believe in god, they see it as a miracle. here's a report from earlier. the small city of rivne is praying for peace. the people here are returning to

church. what did you come here to pray for? >> the soldiers, my brother and ukraine. >> she's a few years shy of joining. >> i know as a man i need to fight for my country. >> ukrainian military impressed the world with it's defense against overwhelming force. many here in ukraine's bible belt see this has a blessing from god. >> i see to my people, we have a real gun and a prayer as a gun. >> in ukraine, war is hard to forgive. >> sometime we will forgive them. we will fight and we will protect our country and everybody who break our borders will be killed. >> the whole town involved in the war effort -- the grand ole opera house is staging a different production. the actors have new roles as

volunteers, and the cloakroom donated cloaks for displaced families. ukraine is a strong country. ukraine cannot lose, he said. ukraine is always a peaceful place, and of course, we will win with the world's support. like much of ukraine, r aoeufpl -- rivne runs on faith and >> it's a small town and it has survived the shelling, and that could change. they are giving what they have, and not to the soldiers on the front line, but that is going to people showing up to lviv, and

they are thinking the tanks will come through the city and that's an acute worry. this place is peaceful but doesn't have to be, and it could change very, very quickly. >> matt bradley, thank you very much. ukraine's defense minister said more than 140,000 ukrainians have returned to join the effort to repel russian forces. then there are those that never left, and volunteers made molotov cocktails and now have learned how to shoot and are now ready to use those weapons to defend their country. joining me now is anna, currently the leader of the women's fighting group that is coordinating with the ukrainian military. she previously served as deputy head of president zelenskyy's office, and is a member of parliament. anna's husband is a general and the head of ukraine's armed forces. i see you smiling there.

tell me what's going on. >> hello, everybody. today the whole country is resistant to the russians. our forces, armed forces are 250,000 people, but in reality, when the bombs fired in the region, the whole citizens got united and came to defend ukraine as even the constitution of ukraine allows that anybody can defend its homeland. >> i am sorry to interrupt. women are not required to stay in ukraine, it's men ages 18 to 60, and we have seen so many women that have turned around and gone back after dropping their kids off or have not left. tell me why you are staying and why you organized this force.

>> i am not like others. i do my best in this fighting, and our organization continues to find help for the army as well as humanitarian assistance for ordinary people, and now it's important to cooperate with the armed forces. today there's an active request for representatives in the region, and transmitting information to the ukrainian army. we give step by step instructions to a local how-to and deliver the information to the military. we help ordinary people to help the army tear tore annual

defenses. it shows the resistance to russian invasions, not just the military one, but we as a whole country do this together. and there are foreigners joining us, and we are connecting them with the minister of defense and makes the negotiations easier for both sides as well as being an expert of defense and security and have experience in top management. i help civilians to find common language and i think that's important. president zelenskyy invited polandars to join the army. i have a post on facebook to

join our defense units. >> i was going to ask, the foreign fighters, we have seen reports from all over the world coming to help ukraine try and keep russia at bay. who were you seeing? where are they from? >> different part of the world. bellarussia, and canada, and other places. they want to help ukraine, and they do right things. >> anna, thank you so much. as we say to everybody out there, please, if you can, stay safe. >> thanks. still ahead, the kremlin's new crackdowns on social media

and dissent amid russia's invasion of the ukraine and how the conflict is leading to a massive hike of oil and gas prices around the world.

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joining me now is former under secretary of state of public diplomacy and affairs in the obama administration, richard. he is also an msnbc political analyst. also with us, former cia officer for 26 years and deputy chief of operations for the europe and asia mission center. he was one of the most highly decorated officers. let's talk about misinformation and disinformation inside russia, western outlets and western reporters have mostly left that country. what does it mean for russia's ability to get accurate information? >> well, it's pretty tragic, katy. russia is an information -- i could be standing in red square now and read "the new york times" on my phone. they never had a firewall like

china had. they had it ten or 15 years ago, an interesting independent trance section, moscow, and putin used to boast about it to show that it was not an authoritarian state. but now russian is turning from an authoritarian state to a totalitarian state, where one man rules everything and there's not allowed to be dissent and there will not be able to be any other political parties and that's the situation that we're in now. it's unfortunate for russians. the other thing, it was always funny about the russian information space, and even though russians could listen or watch western media, they overwhelmingly get state-run media. >> as somebody who has spent so much time there in russia, and i wonder as you are watching what is happening, what are you

thinking? >> i think there's a role the u.s. government could play and that is getting the truth into russia, and the truth is our most powerful weapon in this whole affair. our audience is really the russian people and we have to put forth the notion that this invasion was a catastrophe, and there are staggering russian military losses, and russia is turn into north korea. there are mechanisms to push this forward, and we are not talking about the regime change and the goal is to put pressure on russia to withdrawal from ukraine, and the first thing is to get the truth to the rush -- russian people. >> there are so many people defying the russian law that will put you behind bars for 15 years for basically saying things that are fake, which they

have deemed anything about the war in ukraine. we're still seeing thousands of people protests from videos and arrests from the watchdog groups. how effective can the russian people be in pushing back against this authoritarian government? >> sure. i think there are multiple audiences, and we are talking about information operations. it's going to be the russian people, and if they come out not just 1,000 or 10,000, but hundreds of thousands, and it will send a message, and it's going to the russian oligarchs and the circle around vladimir putin, and the russian officials posted overseas. that's our audience and together the hope is that could force vladimir putin to realize that he must withdraw, but look at the protesters on the streets of russia in awe. they are risking their lives and it's quite extraordinary. they know what has happened is a

catastrophe, and we have to push forth to the rest of the population that this is a disastrous choice by putin. the truth, again, it's our weapon. we are pushing forth the truth, and this is what is called information operations. that's a big difference. it's not propaganda, it's telling the truth and that makes it easy as a u.s. government official as they are deciding what to do in order to go forward with this. >> when you are looking at russia from a state department position, what does diplomacy look like right now? how do you even try to make a diplomatic effort to get inside the kremlin and get vladimir putin to back down? is there even an effort at that any longer considering what we are seeing? >> i mean that's the paradox of sanctions, katy. you are hurting the people that you are also trying to help. ordinary russians will be cut off from the world economy.

they won't be able to do any of the things that civilized people in the west would like to do. that, we hope, will drive putin to the bargaining table. there's no diplomacy right now because he uses diplomacy villa himself to continue bombing. the point about sanctions and the u.s. companies cutting off russia is it's a long game. it's taking the idea that ordinary russians don't want to live in a totalitarian state where they don't have anything available they want. i disagree somewhat with mark that the long-term purpose is that there are protests that cause regime change. as much as putin fears sanctions, weapons and nato, what he really fears is democracy and people wanting to

express themselves. that's what happened in russia in 2013 and 2014 when hundreds of thousands of people protested. >> we're seeing a lot of people taking to the streets defying those laws. there's a real question about what vladimir putin does if he's backed into a corner. that's a conversation we'll continue another time. i'm fresh out of time right now. mark, rick, thank you very much. coming up next, gas prices here at home are at the costliest since 2008.

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the biggest record is $4.11 and experts anticipate u.s. price prices to hit that later today or tomorrow. what's hurting people is inflation out pacing wage growth but about 2%. so many having to make adjustments to their but sets as the war intensities. several of the drivers i talked to today say they're willing to pay more if it means supporting the ukrainian cause. it doesn't take away from the fact it's a very expensive situation for budgets. 60% of americans live paycheck to paycheck. when your gas bill goes up so much, you feel that. looking ahead, gas buddy says prices are expected to rice another 40 to 50 cents perhaps in the coming days and weeks. >> $7.19 for plus at that station. jo ling kent, thank you very

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