it is 8:00, this is sky news breakfast. could russia be preparing to use chemical weapons? the prime minister told sky news that he fears of vladimir putin may deploy them. there has been a similar warning from the white house, and also, president-elect ski. all the while, russian troops continue their advance on the capital of kyiv. reports this, morning one person has been killed in airstrikes on the central city.

as the exodus continues, families in britain, as to open their homes to fleeing ukrainians. we get a view from labor, and of course, our correspondents across the continent. and, also, on the ukrainians caught up in the conflict. it is friday the, 11th of march. new images show russian forces, reorganizing, and advancing, outside of kyiv. u.s. officials warn, some units are now ten miles from city center. chemical weapons are warning, and boris johnson, and the white house, a flood where putin is preparing to use them in ukraine. >> the stuff you are hearing about chemical weapons. this is straight out of their playbook. >> the un security council, meeting at russia's request, after they claim the u.s. is preparing biological weapons in ukraine.

the russian city of denis borough, and leaves one person dead. >> i'm in the polish capital of warsaw, which is close to being overwhelmed with the arrival of hundreds of thousands of refugees. >> british families, being asked to open their homes to ukrainian refugees. there is a number of people fleeing the war, as they continue to climb. chelsea football club, in liverpool, as abramovich is sanctioned. fans continue to chant the russian oligarchs name. this, the scene in kyiv this morning, we're almost half of the population has fled. also ahead on, the program this morning, getting an update from the others in ukraine, where you had to leave kyiv, and her husband, who is helping defend the capital. and, we will be speaking to a charity, helping house children,

who have had to flee ukraine. >> u.s. officials have warned that russian officials have moved three miles closer to the ukrainian capital, over the last 24 hours. new satellite images show the troops of reorganize to the northwest of kyiv, in an area where a 40-mile-long count voice has been stolen for days. there were also reports this morning, that at least one person has been killed in airstrikes in the central city of dnipro. all of this, in both the white house, and boris johnson, warned that president putin could soon turn to chemical weapons. let's just take a quick look at the kyiv element. the ministry of defense saying, it is highly unlikely that, russia has, successfully, achieved the objectives it outlined in its preinvasion plan. a u.s. defense source says, russia has made moderate

advances towards kyiv, in the past day. forces are now three miles closer to the capitol, and just ten miles from the city center. >> boris johnson, telling sky news, he believes that vladimir putin may be preparing to use chemical weapons in ukraine. of the g7 countries, and the eu, reportedly, moving today to strip russia of its most favored nation trading status, allowing them to impose tariffs on russian goods. skies sally walk would, with fresh reporting. >> days of military convoys have stalled outside of kyiv. images taken in the last 24 hours have suggested that they have reorganized. usa delight company, max, our say that vehicles have appeared to dispersed, and re-deployed. with towed artillery, now, in firing positions nearby. it comes as a senior u.s. defense official said that

russian troops have advanced on the capitol, while the information war escalates over whether a chemical weapons attack is being planned. >> no chemical, or any other weapons of mass destruction, were developed in my land. the whole world knows that. you know that. and, if you do something like that against us, you will get the most severe sanctions response. >> the scenes of a bomb to maternity hospital, and marriott poll, suggests that there were no boundaries to russia's barbarism. a concern, now, is a chemical attack. russia has called a meeting at the un security council, later, to discuss unsubstantiated claims that ukraine is housing biological weapons. but, the u.s. has warned, this is a ploy by russia, to create a pretext to deploy such weapons itself. with no desire for nato to see

the involvement, it seems that the west warning about red lines fall, largely, on deaf ears and moscow. >> there is strong evidence, that we are seeing more crimes taking place, and we need to take that evidence, and record it. we are working to call it the evidence on the ground of what is happening, to make sure that putin, and his associates, are held to account for these appalling actions. >> the question is how to stop this, now. ukrainians, grieving their loved ones, and life as they knew it. police sergeant, roman, buried by his wife, and three young children, to the sound of defiance sobs. in some of the worst bombed areas, there is no dignity of a funeral, and no way to escape the fighting. sounded lockwood, sky news.

>> let's look at some of the latest pictures overnight. the aftermath of airstrikes in the central city of dnipro. three airstrikes, reported, killing at least one person. a stretch, reportedly hit near kindergarten, and department buildings, as well as a shoe factory. then he brought home to 1 million people, and a key industrial city within ukraine. as you've already heard, the prime minister is told sky news, vladimir putin may be preparing chemical weapons in ukraine. discussing the matter with our political editor. >> concerns over the civilian casualties are pathetic shrieks. >> that is just where they are, and that is what we are dealing with. let me make you one other prediction, by the way. which is, the stuff you are hearing about chemical weapons,

is straight out of their playbook. they start to say, there are chemical weapons that have been stored by their opponents, and by the americans, and so when they themselves that they deploy chemical weapons, as i fear they may, there is a fake story, ready to go. >> you cannot see a way out at the moment? >> i cannot see a way out to, which does not begin with the realize a shun by the kremlin. they made a catastrophic mistake. i think that vladimir putin has, himself, made it very difficult to find an off ramp. he has, i think, driven his tanks, so to speak, down a coldest sack, from which it would be very hard to extricate himself. >> british families will be asked to open their homes to ukrainian refugees, fleeing the

conflict, mixed ongoing criticism, of the government's visa requirements. a little earlier, technology minister, chris philip, what the uk can do to help this growing refugee crisis. >> making announcements in the very near future, about a skate through the uk local authorities, and indeed, uk authorities. we've announced a principle, and how that scheme works will be laid out in the near future. >> would you take anyone into your home? do you know anyone in the cabinet with taking in the doris? >> in the very near future, it is personal circumstances, and an album to. as they've been able to, as some people, some people won't, they will make their own decisions. >> i speak again to the shadow international trajectory, nick symonds. great to have you this morning.

with chris philip, would you be willing to open the doors for the ukrainian family? >> seeing it's very good to join you this morning. we have experience here, locally, in our constituency of helping families. we have provided that helped to refugees from syria, and with refugees from afghanistan. and they've pledged to do again, and have a terrible situation we are in now, which are working with the local authority, to identify the appropriate properties, and the appropriate support and from those families. we have to remember, as well, yes, absolutely, we are providing sanctuary. we are making sure to, that we have provide the appropriate score that we need. i will be doing that work, once again, with the local authority, here and tore fine, which is extremely generous, and worked extremely well on refugee

programs in the past. >> i suppose the one thing we can say, is clearly, people and tore fan, and around the country, it would be more than willing, i am sure, to open doors, and to announce people, fleeing the violence, that letter putin is wreaking on their country. at the same time, they have to get here first. >> yes. that is where the government, really, doesn't need to step up to the plate, and do better. because, we did hear some improvement from the home secretary, in the house of commons yesterday, saying that those with ukrainian passports are, now, able to make a applications. with the home office has been, is simply, to slow. they have known. the home secretary has known, for weeks, and weeks, that there was this coming invasion, by vladimir putin, of ukraine, and did not put into place a specific, scheme, or a simple safe sanctuary route.

the government needs to do so much better, to live up to what is, frankly, our generosity, as a country. we are better than the schemes that have been put forward by the home secretary, so far. >> still, as i understand, the labour party has been calling for a visa, waiver has? >> what we have been calling for, is in emergency protection visa. the government has been presenting a bogus dilemma. it has, been on the one hand, trying to put this situation into the existing visa system, when it is not suitable for it. then saying, on the other hand, if we do not do that, the government says, there will be no checks at all. that is with the prime minister was talking about, with the prime ministers questions, only a few days ago. what they are saying is that you can put a specific, emergency protection visa in

place, allowing you to know who is coming into the country, allows you to know what support they need, that, also, to be able to do it extremely quickly. to help those who are fleeing this appalling war zone in ukraine. >> can we talk, briefly, about the threat of chemical, and biological weapons deployed in ukraine? given what we have seen the russians do in places like syria, given to what we have been hearing from vladimir putin over the past 24, to 48 hours, we have been concerned to you that they are on the cusp of those types of weapons being deployed. >> i am, extremely concerned, that that is the case. we know the history of vladimir putin, and the use of chemical weapons. we also know, the modus operandi of the kremlin. they tend to use these false flags. and, there is this ludicrous accusation that has been made

about the u.s. funded research, to the development of chemical weapons in ukraine. i am afraid to say, it fits, absolutely, defaults flag narrative. then the extremely concerned that that is, what is likely, to happen. if it does happen, you have to continue to tighten the economic sanctions. on calling, labor's calling, today, for us to close the sanctions gap, to be doing so much to sanction individual assets as the eu, and united states are doing. but, also, let's be absolutely clear, vladimir putin, and his inner circle, may have to face justice for the atrocities they have committed, and, they may well commit further in ukraine. >> the state was sanctions for a second, and for any number of regions, obviously. abramovich's sanctions are, typically, very specific. they are specifically regarding chelsea football club, as well.

if a buyer can be found for chelsea, should the sale go through? >> with regard to chelsea football club, i think what we need to remember here is that the fans, whether it is the fans of chelsea, whether it is the fans of other football clubs, the away team, that will be coming to stanford bridge to finish the season, they should not be punished for the sanctions being put in place, and putting through the chelsea football. in terms of the transactions that can be carried out at the moment, the government has announced a limited number of transactions, for example, with their pre-existing contracts that can be carried out. when i think the government should do is find a practical, pragmatic way, so that chelsea football club has a future, and that is fans are not punished. also, by the way, this is a

salutary reminder of the need for the government to implement the recommendations, the fan led review of football governance. those recommendations are published in november, including things like an independent regulator of football, and also, to be in a position where the premier league is, actually, tightening up on those who opened the football clubs, and that fans have a proper voice in that. >> nick thomas, great to have you on the program this morning, good to have you with us. let's bring in our correspondent once again, let's focus on the refugee situation. clearly, as ukrainians walked their way through the visa system, which seems to be changing on a day-to-day basis. there will be more and more arriving in this country. >> that is, right and the government have already changed the system significantly to a lot more ukrainians with a family member in the uk to come out here without having a visa center in the region.

that was causing a huge backlog. the next bit of the scheme is going to be something announced on monday which is the root for people who don't have a uk relative, a humanitarian route. lots of british families have watched what is going on and thought i have a spare room, i wouldn't mind putting some desperate people up for a few months. that will be part of it. alongside councils, charities, churches, allowed to bring people over and put them up in any accommodation they have. now this has been delayed a bit but we are going to get it next week. there are so many details that need to be worked through. there was a meeting last night to talk about some of them, what status will they have, what benefits will they be able to claim, will they be able to work straightaway. all of these things need to be hammered out, by the treasury, and -- >> started thinking about i don't know where the russians appear of the board of ukraine? >> well, that they could've possibly thought about it earlier. but the difficulty is when afghan refugees were resettled

here, some of the normal rules that would apply for example, people who are refugees not being able to waive universal credit -- so there may be normal rules that don't apply in the situation. so they're trying to hammered out before monday, but there will be a scheme by which british families can put up ukrainian refugees in their homes. of course it has been stress to me that only to be security checks on both sides to protect everybody involved, but you can only imagine this getting worse with boris johnson's rather chilling warning about chemical weapons potentially being used. >> -- tamara cohen thank you. still to come on the program, -- we'll be joined by former defense secretary doctor liam fox. joining us live from poland. we will also be speaking to a youtuber who is documenting his journey from ukraine to germany. and the and of the hour we will be speaking to the director of a children's charity to find

out about his efforts to help children fleeing the situation. the polish capital warsaw is close to being overwhelmed by the number of refugees arriving from ukraine. let's bring in our correspondent lisa holland who is in warsaw this morning. good to see you again, lisa, when we say close to being overwhelmed, how close this close? >> yeah, i mean they say they are struggling to cope, but of course the million dollar question is they don't know precisely how many more people are going to be crossing over the border. now poland has been taken in the lion's share of the millions who have currently fled from the war zone in ukraine. the city alone, the polish capital, we worked out that on current figures they have taken in in the last two weeks something like an additional 50% of their previous population. what they don't know of course, is how long people will stay. therefore they're having to work out what kind of facilities to work up --

turning arenas, sports centers, and temporary shelters to put a roof over the head of these women and children. over 90% of the women and children need to look after an entertain the children, they -- some have already started school here in warsaw. so that is really an enormous thing that people are putting down roots. i think on a key factors as far as poland is concerned, is that unlike other peaks of refugee crisis that we have seen in the past, quite often refugee migrants want to transit through countries like poland on their way to northern europe, and potentially countries like the united kingdom. that is being referenced here. people like afghans, iraqis, syrians who may have relatives, they are keen to get to the uk. it is a very different situation here now because people actually want to stay quite close to ukraine. remember they have husbands, brothers, fathers, fighting,

people have homes that they really want to go back to, they want to rebuild their lives and families. therefore there is an immense pressure on warsaw and poland, and across this neighboring countries to ukraine to sort of taking the refugees. the refugees to be staying here, having said all that, one family that we have been talking to were saying look, look around you, you can see the pressure on the polish authorities. so frankly, we are just going to try to move away from poland to get somewhere little bit quieter and they were trying to get a train to germany. so it was pretty complex but you have people who are still trying to get on trains to elsewhere within this part of europe, so sleeping at the train station and not even using the temporary beds put up in shelters. it is really quite a frank thick and chaotic scene. >> thank you very much indeed. now admits the refugee crisis, a new visa processing center will be set up in the french

city of -- praying ukrainians trying to come to britain. let's speak to our correspondent who speaks to us from -- just explain to us exactly how this visa processing center will work. >> well that is the big question, isn't it? let's face that we were supposed to -- be and here we are in harass on friday. now this is the center it is a french administrative building here like a council building. basically ukrainians who want to apply for british recess will be able to be referred here. they can't turn up. they won't take appointments. but they can be referred here to help fill out the paperwork, carry out the biometric tests. now, the amount of effort has taken to get this center, this locations that up is pretty unbelievable. it is having a huge impact on the ukrainians who are trying, with legitimate rights to get

-- spoke to three cousins, they are traveling with four children, they left ukraine and lived in kyiv, their husbands all staying behind to fight. they have family in the uk, they didn't want to stay in poland or any other part of europe because they don't speak any other language. but they have faced these huge difficulties these hurdles in getting anywhere. they were moved to little, and this morning they have gone to paris with all their children and stuff to try and stored out more tests and finish that application. but it has been absolutely exhausting process for them. bear in mind, there are huge long difficult journeys they have had to make to come to france and and up in france. i think they summed it up to me when they said yesterday, i don't want benefits, i don't want british money, i just want to go stay with my family. i don't want to stay in britain, i have a job, i have a husband, my life is in ukraine. i just need to be somewhere for

a few months. but at the moment, they are just simply facing these enormous bureaucratic barriers which has left them literally lost in limbo. like i say, they face these horrible difficult decisions, these long journeys. they are far from over those journeys right now. >> laura, many thanks indeed. vladimir putin's invasion of ukraine and has left millions of civilians displaced across the bordering nations. my next guest is one of those who has fled the capital kyiv, but her husband stayed behind to help bolster the city's defenses against russian forces. sonia joins us on the program. it is great to see you. i'm -- let's just out there, how are you and the girls coping? >> i, thank you, yes we are fine. it is actually my father and -- left kyiv also, so now we are

mostly a big part of our family here. we are doing pretty fine. >> a big part of your family is there, but a big part of it remains missing. your husband. have you managed to keep in touch with him? >> yes of course, we talk call each other ten times a day asking if he is all right. if we are all right. we are always in touch. so far, he is safe, he is doing fine. i hope it is going to stay the same way. >> we all do. we all do. i don't want you to go into any kind of detail that might put him at any kind of risk, but can you speak to us just a bit about what he is doing? and whereabouts in the country is at the moment? >> well, he is in kyiv and he is volunteering their. they are helping with medicine courses to help the territorial defense in case of anything, and that is exactly what he does. there's a lot of people who

stay in kyiv who are just volunteering, helping to get food to those who are ill, or those who can't just go out and go to the store. there are a lot of men and women in kyiv who are just staying to help each other to keep the city safe. >> how concerned are he and the others that he will be working alongside? how concerned are they about that russian advance that continues to appear to be edging closer to kyiv? >> well, everyone is concerned about that. that is why my parents, my father and stepmother left kyiv. cities right next to kyiv are blocked right now. there is a humanitarian catastrophe, and there's a lot of people who are blocked there without any food, without water, without electricity, and they just can't get out because russian forces just block them and there is a lot of stories from people who just try to get

out from that trap and they had to run under missile attacks and shooting. some of them get lucky, and they get out. but some of them don't, and there's a lot of civilian people who died just on the roads and the fields because they just tried to escape, and they didn't have a chance. >> -- sorry what -- you carry on carry on. >> this is the reason why we begged our father to leave kyiv, and mostly he did that because he lives on the border of kyiv, which is really close to those cities which -- so if there's going to be more attacks from russian troops, he's going to be there on this first line. this is why we wanted him to leave and come here. so now we did that, he is here, he is safe, and he is -- my brother, and we hope that

this step was just for, we hope it wasn't needed, we hope nothing is going to happen, but we all do believe that it might happen to our city. >> so, what are your plans obviously things change within minutes in ukraine at the moment, but i'm wondering, are you reconciled to the fact that you may will have to leave the country at some point? >> well, you know, we are in a situation where we don't have any plans because we don't know what's going to happen next day, or in the next minutes. but yes the situation is going to be worse, i have my children and responsibilities to keep them safe. so the situation is going to get worse, yes, i think we will go abroad. but i really hope we won't have to. i hope we can stay here and in sometime like weeks, or even

years, we can go back to kyiv. >> we keep our fingers crossed but of course the latest that we have been hearing in the past 24 hours from the white house, from downing street, from president zelenskyy is perhaps that vladimir putin is preparing to use chemical or biological weapons. >> oh god, that is something that just, i can't realize. this is, i mean, everything russian forces are doing here on our land is a crime against humanity. but this sounds like an absolutely crazy plan. i don't know how -- what kind of person has in their heads or minds to do that! to do that against civilian people! i don't know ... it is something i'm never going to understand understand taking trulicity, and it looks like he's gotten into some new healthier habits, too.

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our top stories, we it is within ten miles of the center of kyiv. with new satellite imagery, suggesting that artillery units, set up close to the outskirts. russia could be preparing to use chemical weapons in ukraine. the prime minister, in an exclusive interview, with sky news. the un security council, meeting today at russia's request, after moscow claimed, the u.s. is preparing biological weapons in ukraine. washington has called the allegations laughable. richie sunak of this morning said russia's invasion of ukraine is creating significant economic uncertainty. a british presenter, and king, joining us from the city. good to see you in. that's a statement of the obvious, isn't it. we? have to go into a bit more detail. >> inflationary pressure, being

created across the piece from what's going on in russia right now. obviously, we have talked a lot about the rise in oil, and natural gas prices in, the price of wheat, which has risen by getting by on a third, since the invasion as well. they get here together, and 30% of global wheat exports. they are talking about metal prices as well. there is many commodities, aluminum, nickel, all racing to record levels over recent days, and indeed, nickel trading was suspended on the metal exchange, after the price, more, quadrupled in a few days. those are the concerns that richie sunak is expressing now. all of this, coming, of course, as we've had the gdp data for january. this morning, the uk economy grew by 0.8%, with four fifths of 1%. really, a much more strong performance than anyone expected. the city, looking for a growth of 0.2%.

obviously, you will recall, in december, the economy contracted by 0.2% because the last hurrah of covid, if you like. so, really, strong numbers indeed. it puts more pressure, on the back of england, to raise interest rates. they have their next polity means and for the committee, this thursday. but, to give you an idea of how strong level was, it now means that the uk economy, at some point, 8% bigger than it was in february 2020, going into the pandemic. it is worth pointing out, as the office for national statistics does today, that had we not had the pandemic, than on the previous trend rate of growth, the economy would be some 4% larger than it is today. nonetheless, very encouraging gdp figures. very strong bounce back. it puts a lot more pressure on the bank to raise interest rates. indeed, inflation is becoming a real issue. yesterday, we had numbers out of the united states.

u.s. inflation standing at 7.9%. significantly higher than anyone expected. that is a four decade high. that is when we talk them, you're getting top, that the u.s. federal reserve will raise interest rates again, more rapidly, than previous expected. >> and, thank you for putting that in context for us. i want to bring you some breaking news, from the kremlin. a meeting of the russian security council, chaired by vladimir putin, currently, taking place. the russian defense minister, in attendance at that particular meeting, claiming, the military operation, in ukraine, is all going to plan. something the minister of defense would have something to say about, certainly, showing that, it has not been going quite entirely as planned. but, a new development in all of this. vladimir putin, earlier in the meeting, talking about the need, perhaps, for volunteers to come and support the russian forces.

the russian defense minister has said this of the russian security council meeting. 16,000 volunteers, from the middle east, are keen to fight with pro russian rebels in ukraine. it will delve a little bit deeper off with that, and as when we get it. as with russia, they're clearly fearing the sanctions around the world. but one former defense secretary thinks, economic pressure may still be the best way to deal with vladimir putin. joining again, with their program, and at the former defense secretary in the program. obviously, good to see you, doctor fox. i wonder if i am slightly springing this on new. those words that we are hearing, from the russian security council this morning, head about the possibility of the russians bringing in troops, bringing in volunteers from the middle east, is that posturing by the russians? do you think there might be some truth to that?

>> giving us nonstop propaganda, i would doubt anything that they told us was true. they denied that they're using conscripts on the front line of ukraine, and we now know that they were. and then told that we are making great progress, and they have said that they would be welcomed in ukraine, as liberators. we know they've had heavy resistance from the ukrainians. here, more, so in poland. we have been talking to some of the people, doing the humanitarian, runs into ukraine. they have been telling us about the appalling state of some of the cities there. people with no food, and no water, who are being purposely starved by the russians. it is an act of cruel aggression, with no respect whatsoever, for human life. yesterday, the bombing of a maternity hospital, these are all just certainly war crimes, and all words coming from the russian propaganda's. >> as we were speaking, doctor

fox, reaching the by the world service, that the russian forces, hitting a psychiatric hospital in ukraine's kharkiv region, that's according to the kharkiv regional government. looking at the tactics we have seen the russians deployed so far, we hear the downing street talking about the potential use of the chemical, biological weapons, indeed, with lamar putin talking about that. with some concerning indeed. >> it is already very concerning. remember, this is a humanitarian crisis, brought about by choice. it is brought about by choice, with against ukraine, and a country that didn't threaten russia, in any way. he talks about them being one people, and yet, he is willing to inflict an appalling level of death, and suffering, on men, women, and children. so, the fact that he escalated by using chemical weapons, actually, would not surprise me. >> absolutely appalling. when you have an individual like vladimir putin in charge

of russia, who has you see it has been shown to use chemical weapons, even in the united kingdom, in the past, how, then is it possible, that keeping our nerves, as you will see today, and using our economic might, is the way to, ultimately, when this conflict? >> we have two choices. one as we can enter the military conflict, and cause a major escalation, and possibly a war in all of europe, or, we can use the most effective tools we have, which is to cripple the russian economy. putin needs the war machine to be set. we can stop it being fed, by reducing the amount of money and has access to. the sanctions on the russian central bank, i'm not sure people understand, exactly how severe they are. they will actually stop russia getting access to the money that is put aside putin's war machine, being funded by foreign currency reserves, with banks around the world. they don't have access to those. about 600 billion dollars.

that, suddenly, isn't available to the kremlin. that makes a big difference, because he is unable to support the value of his currency, and is unable to main banking stability in russia, which means, there is the possibility of bank runs, on banks themselves, and the possibility of hyperinflation in russia. now, as you correctly say, when you have a sociopath like putin in charge, he may not care what happens to the ordinary russian people. but, they care about what happens to them. that, therefore, threatens the stability of the regime. the best thing to happen is that him or putin, himself, is not there. >> certainly is. in your mind, do you think that vladimir putin will, ultimately, faced charges at the international criminal court? >> he could face charges will, whether he faces court is another matter. people like putin, have a way of avoiding justice. it's very clear, if warcrimes

had been created, and it looks as though we are seeing indiscriminate shelling of civilian targets in, hospitals, psychiatric hospitals, as you see this morning, these are grotesque crimes, and for what? what does putin hope to gain from this? he cannot occupy ukraine, he does not have the troops to do it. clearly, the ukrainians do not want him to be there. ultimately, it seems a high price will be paid for the fact that vladimir putin lives in his own, bizarre world, with very few advisers, willing to tell the truth about the world outside, and living with his own fantasies, and demons. it is a very depressing picture. the best tools that we have our to deal with the money with which he finances the war, and the russian economy, which prompts of his regime. >> doctor liam fox, thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >> now, people are continuing

to pour out of ukraine, to flee the conflict, as russia evades the country. the youtuber, joseph myo, leaving his home in kharkiv, taking home with one of his subscribers in germany, documenting his germany to safety. i am pleased to say, joseph joins us now. joseph, great to have you on the program. tell us a little bit about the journey, and with kharkiv, all the way to germany. >> thank you for having me on the show. it was been living in ukraine for a few -- for a long time. i consider my second home from nigeria. the journey was not easy. they are leaving for ages, and are making the decision, to suddenly, just leave. it's a very painful one. in the very early morning, and

they documented the situation, with a third day of the invasion. and, i went to the streets, and i could see long lines of people who just wanted to get food from the supermarket, and grocery stores. long lines of people who just wanted to get money from the bank, and also, from drugstores. it was a painful journey. it was a very painful journey. there was a popular saying in english that no place feels like home. really, i do miss ukraine. >>,,? , first of years you would obviously make plenty offense, but you also have to understand that the ukrainian mindset, the ukrainian culture just a bit better than the rest of us. >> yeah, you know, the fact that i lived there for eight years i also speak the russian language, so i was able to -- you'll find that a lot in my youtube channel, on my youtube

videos. you see me speaking ukrainian, speaking russian for example eating with strangers, having fun with them, and they were like a family to me. they are a family to me. so the fact right now that i'm losing that connection, right now one of my friends, a good friend of mine who lives in the city of mariupol had been trying to contact him for the past five days, i'm unable to contact him. i'm hoping the worst hasn't happened to him because there is a lot of bombing, a lot of atrocities going on. it is heartbreaking. it is heartbreaking. >> it really is. and genuinely, i do hope you managed to make contact with your friends very soon, joseph. but i want to ask things stand, with the russians talking -- potentials of chemical or biological weapons being used in the country, with forces continuing to advance on kyiv, i just wonder right now, do you think you will ever make it back to the country? >> that is a deep question.

because, katie >> take your time. take your time. >> can i share one story before i left, i went to the basement and of my neighbors and i spoke to them, and i could see women crying and they were like why do we need this? i could see the tired faces on the people. this was just the third day of the invasion. using chemical weapons? i finished in medical university in kharkiv and ukraine, using chemical weapons that is the atrocity of the highest order. i look forward to going home one day, i look forward to

going to ukraine one day. but with everything going on, it is almost like the hopes are fading. i really do want the ukrainian people to leave, because some people are dying every day. i have no words. >> joseph, it is -- it would be utterly abusive mean to suggest that there is a silver lining in all of this. there is no silver lining. but the one thing i think you may agree with is, you and others, the perception that you have had in countries like germany, as i understand you are actually staying with one of your subscribers from youtube. >> yeah that is the positive thing. the beauty of humanity has been really, really, really a highlight to see. i remember when i first got to poland, because when i first left ukraine i only had two shirts, two trousers, and my shoes camera, and laptop.

i left with the mindset that even if i lose everything, with my camera, my laptop, i can recover everything back because i'm very good at storytelling, and i can make more youtube videos and hopefully my audience grows from there. but something happened in poland, because in ukraine it was snowy, and i was wearing winter socks, and when i got to poland it was a bit warm. so i began to feel itchy. and i did have socks -- extra socks on me. and i polish woman, and i told her my problem, she took me to the supermarket, and sorry, the shopping mall, and she actually bought me some socks. she even bought me some other clothes, the beauty of humanity has just been a highlight here. >> it certainly has. well, you keep telling those stories, joseph. joseph, thank you so much for joining us.

i really hope you managed to make it to ukraine sometime soon. >> my pleasure, thank you. >> well, those fleeing the war in ukraine are mostly women and children. in many cases they are separated from their families, and often unaccompanied. these children are clearly at a heightened risk of violence, and in need of protection. we are now joined by the chief executive for hope and homes for children, mark wellington. mark, you are speaking to us from moldova. on the ground, tell us how bad things are, your first impressions of what you have been seeing? >> well, yeah, this morning we are seeing quite a lot of people crossing the border, where we are establishing a reception center to help process refugees, and then support the emergency reception

further down the road. it is really cold here it is minus eight this morning, it colder overnight. it is a pedestrian border so people walk several kilometers just to get over the border. some of them don't have the right clothing. they're absolutely freezing when they get here. >> and of course, those conditions are difficult enough to survive for anyone, but we are talking about unaccompanied children dealing with those, it must be pretty horrific. what level, in terms of numbers that you are seeing, are you seeing lots of women and children, lots of unaccompanied children going through? >> not so many unaccompanied children going through, but a big worry at the moment is the 400,000 children in the orphanage system, and during the course of the conflict we are seeing staff who support that -- not turning up for work because there are prioritizing the

security of their own families. so those children are left unattended. we are literally hundreds of people trying to move these children around. but there is no central tracking system to do that. our big fear is that many of them go missing, we saw that in the syrian war, we absolutely don't want to see that here. so huge population of 100,000 children with no central -- tracking where they are, and where they are getting to. with the borders being so busy at the, moment it is a real risk for child trafficking. >> a huge, huge risk clearly the logistics and wild over and if people are watching this and they do want to help particularly as they hear about children passing over those borders what would you recommend they do? >> well, there's a lot of professional organizations out here, but i mean for organizations like -- we have been in moldova for 20

years, in romania, and also in ukraine itself. so we are headed into the systems, they're the biggest thing you can do is just to donate and support on the ground. >> just a quick word then in terms of the agency approach, there are a lot of agencies, is there enough communication between you and the other ngo organizations that are on the ground? is there any way of coordinating that side of the effort? >> yeah, there is, and we are working with -- along the border there in ukraine and here in moldova and it is a very well joined up. obviously, there are glitches some time to time, but the organizations do work well together, we have to in order to create the correct services that are needed and particularly for these children who are expected to first wave

of people who can afford to move and transport and move on through moldova, through romania, and other parts of europe. it is a second wave that we are worried about, and that is going to need coordination and significant resourcing to meet the demands of food, blankets, and so on. many of these people coming over the border and particularly children, they are in a position of destitution. >> mark, some best wishes to you and indeed the team working there. mark washington the chief executive of hope and homes for children. thank you so much for joining us. meanwhile, european union leaders are in versailles for an -- council meeting on the ukrainian crisis. slovenia's minister says a majority of eu leaders support sending a strong message to

ukraine that it will be granting membership in the european union eventually, not tomorrow of course, tomorrow they can just become candidates as he said they arrived for the second day of meetings with european counterparts. more from versailles, let's have a quick look at the weather. look for to brightest guys, the weather sponsored by qatar airways. >> the next few days pretty unsettled, strong winds taking -- across most places. today a mild and fairly fine start. ireland and south britain we will see rain moving in, that rain will spread northeast in the morning but some eastern parts of britain will stay largely dry with sunny spells. >> the weather sponsored by qatar airways. >> coming up in the next hour,

we will have all of the latest developments from in and around ukraine as u.s. officials warn the russian forces have moved up that bit closer to the ukrainian capital.

could russia be preparing to use chemical weapons? the prime minister says he fears president putin may be looking at doing so, and all the while russian troops continue their advance on the capital of kyiv. at least one person has been killed in air strikes.

as the exodus continues,