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could russia be preparing to use chemical weapons? the prime minister says he fears president putin may be looking at doing so, and all the while russian troops continue their advance on the capital of kyiv. at least one person has been killed in air strikes. as the exodus continues,
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families in britain will be asked to open their doors to fleeing ukrainians. it is friday, the 11th of march. edging closer. new images show russian forces organizing and advancing on kyiv and some units are ten miles from the city center. chemical weapons warning. boris johnson and the white house say president putin is aiming to use them in ukraine. >> the stuff that you're hearing about chemical weapons, it is straight out of their play book. >> the u.n. security council is to meet at russia's request, after moscow claimed the u.s. is preparing biological weapons in ukraine. a russian air strike on the industrial city, reportedly leaves one person dead. british families will be asked to open their homes to ukrainian refugees. a number of people fleeing the
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war continues to climb. chelsea football club is in limbo and its owner abramovich is sanctioned and fans continue to chant the russian oligarch's name. also ahead in the final hour of the program, on the ground on the ukraine/poland border, we're speaking to one of unicef's workers about a way to protect vulnerable families on the move. we will be speaking to the new surgeon who is training doctors in ukraine's conflict zones. good morning, all. u.s. officials have warned that russian forces have moved about three miles closer to the ukrainian capital kyiv over the last 24 hours. new satellite images suggest that troops have reorganized to
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the northwest of kyiv, and in an area with a 40-mile long convoy had been stalled for days. >> there are reports this morning, that at least one person had been killed in air strikes in the central city, and all of this, as both the white house and boris johnson warned that president putin could soon turn to chemical weapons. let's just take a quick look at the key developments, the ministry of defense says it is highly unlikely that russia has successfully achieved the objectives it outlined in its pre-invasion plan. the u.s. defense source says russia has moved moderate advances toward kyiv in the past day, moving three miles closer to the capital and just ten miles from the city center. the regional governor says the psychiatric hospital was hit by a russian air strike overnight. and said there is no word on casualties so far, but 330 people were in the hospital.
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boris johnson has told sky news he believes vladimir putin may be preparing to use chemical weapons in ukraine. sky's sunny lockwood has the first report. >> the miles of 40-mile military convoy has stalled up but by kyiv but images taken in the last 24 hours suggest russian troops have reorganized. u.s. satellite company maxar says vehicles appear to have dispersed and redeployed with artillery now in firing positions nearby. it comes as a senior u.s. defense official said russian troops have advanced on the capital, while the information war escalates as to whether a chemical weapons attack is being planned. >> no chemical or any other weapons of mass destruction were developed on my land. the whole world knows that. you know that.
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and if you do something like that against us, you will get the most severe sanctions response. >> the scenes of a former maternity hospital in mariupol suggest there is no boundaries to russia's barbarics ways, the concern now a chemical attack, russia has called a meeting of the u.n. security council later to discuss unsubstantiated claims ukrainian is housing biological weapons. but the u.s. has warned this is a ploy by russia, to create a pretext to deploy such weapons itself. with no desire to maintain military involvement it seems the west's warnings about red lines fall largely on deaf ears in moscow. >> there is strong evidence that we are seeing war crimes taking place, and we need to take that evidence and record that evidence and we are working to
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collate the evidence on the ground of what is happening, to make sure that putin acc and his associates are held to account for these appalling actions. >> the question is how to stop this now. ukrainians grieving loved ones and life as they knew it. the police sergeant buried by his wife and three young children, to the sound of defiant song. but in some of the worst bombed areas, there's no dignity of a funeral and no way to escape this fighting. just a couple of bits of breaking news to bring you, first, from the u.n. migration agency, it says, it estimates more than 2.5 million people have fled ukraine, as of the 11th of march and that figure is certainly starting to rise even
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further. and we've been reporting of course from kharkiv, reports of an attack on a psychiatric hospital, reports of other attacks that the region's governor has said that there isn't any danger to the civilian population from the shelling, however there are still a number of people concerned with what the russians have been doing in and around chernobyl and indeed other places where there is radio active areas, and you can understand perhaps why 2.5 million people have so far fled the country. latest pictures from ukraine showing the aftermath of air strikes in the central city of dnipro, three air strikes killing at least one person. those strikes reportedly hitting a kindergarten and apartment buildings as well as a factory. and dnipro home to a million people is of course a key industrial city within ukraine.
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meanwhile the prime minister has told sky news he believes russia's vladimir putin may be preparing to use chemical weapons in ukraine. here's the prime minister discussing that with our reporter. >> there are concerns of civilian casualties -- >> i'm afraid where they are, that is what we're dealing with, and i'll make you one other prediction by the way, which is the stuff that you are hearing about chemical weapons, it is straight out of their play book, they start saying that there are chemical weapons that are being stored by their opponents, or by the americans, and so when they themselves deploy chemical weapons, as i fear they may, they have a sort of fake story ready to go. >> you can't see your way the way out at the moment. >> i can't see a way out that doesn't begin with the
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realization by the kremlin that it will be a catastrophic mistake. i think that vladimir putin has himself made it very difficult to find an off-ramp, and he has, i think, driven his tanks, to to speak, down a cul-de-sac from which it will be very hard to extricate himself. >> once again, that is our political correspondent, great to see you, tamara, can we start, with that topic that occupies a lot of people, myself included, the prospect that once again we are going to see chemical, programs even biological weapons being deployed in a theater of war. >> boris johnson called the attack on the maternity ward in mariupol depraved, and if the russians were to cross that line, and it's been clear from briefings from western officials over the last few days that that is something that they're very worried about, then that would pose some real dilemmas for the west.
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beth boris johnson speaking last night, and the u.s. administration have said that that is something they fear, because, we have seen there before, of course, in syria and also the russians, the u.n. is saying today they have called an urgent meeting of the security council to discuss what they call america's military biological activities in ukraine, and when you look at what president zelenskyy of ukraine said in his latest video message last night, if you want to know what russia is planning, you look at what russia is accusing others of planning to do. so if that is where this is going, of course, that would be breaching international law, breaching all sorts of convention, but what we heard the message from the former head of the british army chemical weapons unit, that they will do this, to test the boundaries and this is what he told us this morning. >> these are absolutely
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horrendous weapons. indiscriminate. many impact civilians and soldiers tend to have gas masks and other protections, so they are illegal and horrendous under every law that can be conceived. they give a green light to every dictator, despot, and rogue and terror group to use if vladimir putin thinks he can use them with impunity. >> given what we've been hearing from the white house, from the kremlin, frankly, it is little wonder that, you know, at a minimum, 2.5 million people have fled the country, and the question again becomes what are we doing in this country to prepare for the number of people that will eventually end up in limbo. >> it changes every day, neil, because the pressure of the numbers, the pressure of the pictures of our screens of many desperate women and children fleeing are putting a lot of pressure on the home secretary to change what happened, a very strict and restrict ive policy.
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we now have a family scheme to join a family member in the u.k., and that is relaxed if people have a ukrainian passport or i.d. document, they no longer have to queue in the freezing cold in poland, they can come and submit bio metric data when they get here. so that was a big change announced yesterday. scheme that we are waiting for details and we will get on monday, the prime minister confirmed in the interview last night is a humanitarian route for people who don't have a british relative, where they can be sponsored by councils and charities and by all of the people who may have a spare room in their home and want to support a ukrainian family. many people want to do it but there have to be checks in place, both for those coming over, the british government say this there have to be security checks and anyone opening their home will have to be checked as well. people in government stressed that is very important, you can't put people up with you can't have anyone checked out their background. and then of course, i understand
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the government meeting last night, to discuss things like what will be their status, will they be entitled to universal credit, will they be able to work here immediately, and all of this has not been hammered out yet, and also how long a family would have to support them for would be more than three months, minimum six months, and they will hit this on monday, we understand, but labor, government, has not acted fast enough and they should have anticipated this happening and this is what nick thompson said to us today. >> the government really does need to step up to the plate, and do better, because we did hear some improvement from the home secretary and the house of commons yesterday, saying that those with ukrainian passports are now bypassing line applications but the home office is simply too slow. the home secretary has known for weeks and weeks that there was this coming invasion and
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unfortunately by vladimir putin of ukraine, and didn't put in place a specific scheme, a simple safe sanctuary route. >> when he was talking about the visa process that hasn't acted quickly enough, that is the same point they are making when it comes to sanctions and yesterday, roman abramovich despite the prime minister talking about being sanctioned. >> and what the governor is saying about the refugees, is that labor and the check, it is calling for them to be done somehow faster. on sanction, labor says, they are putting out an announcement the government has only sanctioned 41 of putin's cronies compared to 600 by the eu, and 240 by the united states. so he says that the u.k. has been too slow. now, what the government would say to that is that they have
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sanctions in really big fish yesterday including roman abramovich and that was the case, and many believe it will take weeks to be compiled and it has to be water tight, because people with a lot of money, a lot of access to expensive lawyers to challenge these cases in the courts and what the government put out yesterday was a document claims that roman abram ols ovich has received from president putin in the last couple of years and that must be enough claim to support and six other oligarchs yesterday, saying they will go further. when we spoke earlier about the issues surrounding chelsea football club and may be of interest to a lot of people, he said that essentially the club can be sold to another buyer, but that buyer would need to approach the government to try and get a new license, and you do wonder what this whole debacle will do to the price of the club and the issues
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surrounding. this is what he told us. >> people like abramovich have expensive lawyers and we want to make sure we don't get challenged so we have gone through carefully and methodically putting together a case that is water tight and yesterday we acted not just against abramovich but six other oligarchs. >> is the government ready to go through? >> as the russian's position today, the sale would not be allowed, however if a buyer emerged, it would be open to that buyer or to the football club, to approach the government, and ask for the licensed conditions to be varied in a way that allow that sale to be taking place. they will be able to approach the government to make a proposal. >> so it could happen, but we're talking to people in government who say that chelsea has to be informed basically last-minute that this was going to happen, they had to act immediately to slam the brakes on, on ticket sales and selling mlz and -- merchandise, and this is a huge
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blow to them and fans and the government defended it saying this is what we have to do, but roman abramovich is one of the many people who have been mentioned in parliament why, don't you go after him, he used to be a governor of a russian province under putin, but i think there will be calls from labor and others to widen that net, family members, to relatives of those close to putin who may be living lump urs -- lump urs lifestyles in london. >> plenty still to come on the remainder of the program. 45 minutes to go. what we will be hearing, from the assets that were frozen yesterday. and i will be speaking to one of unicef's lead workers on the ground about the scheme to prepare families on the move. and i'll be speaking to the new surgeon training doctors in ukraine's conflict zones.
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before all of that, the polish capital of warsaw, simply closed to being overwhelmed by the number of refugees arriving from ukraine. sky news has been there. >> poland has been taking in the lion share of the millions who have currently fled from the war zone in ukraine. in this city alone, the polish capital, we worked out with current figures, they have taken, in the last two weeks, something like an additional 15% of their previous population. and what they don't know is where people are going to stay and they have to work out what facilities to set up, arenas, sports centers, temporary shelters to put everybody, with women and children, more than 90% of the people coming are women and children, and they need to look after and entertain the children, and we also have learned that some have already started school here, in warsaw.
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so that is kind of an enormous things that i think one of the key factors as far as poland is concerned, and other than other refugee crises that we've seen in the path, quite often they transit through countries on the way to northern europe to potentially countries like the united kingdom, it is a very different situation here, because people want to stay quite close to ukraine, remember they have husbands, brother, fathers, fighting there, people have homes that they really want to go back to, they want to rebuild their lives and rebuild their families, therefore, there is immense pressure on warsaw and poland, it is complex and people are still trying to get on planes to elsewhere, within this part of europe, they're sleeping at the train station, and not even using the kind of temporary beds put up in shelters. it's really quite a sort of frantic and chaotic scene.
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>> the new visa processing center has been set up in the french city, where we find our correspondent, laura good to see you again. explain exactly what is going to be happening in arias at some point in the future, why there rather than calais? >> well, that's a very good question, because you're right, on monday, it was supposed to be calais and then on monday, it was meant to be here, and lots of people from ukraine were bussed from calasis to leo and now, it is friday and this is a fren of administrative building behind me, and this is where the pop-up visa application center will be, helping ukrainians fill out those forms, processing their applications for british visas. no sign of any activity here yet. it has been a long process getting this place up and running and it has made life even more difficult. the ukrainians we've been meeting along the way, we met
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three cousins, and their four children, they all left kyiv, they all left husbands who are now fighters in ukraine, and made the journey from ukraine all the way to northern frnce where they knew they had family in britain, that's where they wanted to go, and assumed calais was the place for it, it wasn't and shuttle around from low quality hostile to low quality hostile and on the way to paris right now and bio metric testing but their journey, their experience has been awful, and they said they have family and they know where they want to go and they have the paperwork is a nightmare, because it is in english and they needed extra documents and it was over an hour for seven forms, seven hours of paperwork, and we don't
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want money, we want to go to their family and in a few months, they want to go back to their husbands, their lives, their schools, et cetera, they need somewhere safe to go and the problem is they have been hitting bureaucratic barrier after bureaucratic barrier, which means at the moment their lives are simply lost in limbo, and are struggling to get to the u.k. >> thanks very much indeed. some related news, meta is allowing to call for violence against russian soldiers in retall anyfor what is going on in ukraine and the social media company is making temporary changes to the hate speech policy that will allow some posts to call for death to vladimir putin or alexander lukashenko. >> the government has been trying to block social media platforms from russia as part of the disinformation campaign to
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essentially trick the russian people, they are lying to the russian people about what is happening, because if the russian people realize the the full extent of the atrocities being committed by putin in their name, they would be extremely angry and that's why putin is trying to hide. that the ukrainian army and the ukrainian citizens have every right to defend their homeland, to defend their cities and their town, to defend their hospitals against this aggression by russia and if somebody was attacking the place i represent, if somebody was bombing the university hospital, i would tell you what, i would be in the streets defending my hospital, i would be in the streets defending my town and my neighbors as the ukrainians are quite rightly doing. >> here's another bit of news to have a look at. i spoke a little earlier in the program to a student from glasgow, who plans to drive an ambulance that he's bought all the way to the polish ukrainian border so that it can be used to distribute supplies and
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transport refugees from danger. buying the 2.5 thousand pounds vehicle, is not far from helping those fleeing invasion. >> i've got a class at the university, and i will finish up here and after class, i am going straight to england, and getting a ferry to the netherlands and then enter germany and enter poland and the ukrainian border is where they are meeting me, and to have the responsibility with the ambulance, everybody is trying to help, there's a lot of people in the community that are trying to help in their own way, by donating money. we can make a difference. >> you can see more from my discussion with him on the app sky news. meanwhile, russia's invasion of ukraine is creating significant economic
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uncertainty. ian king joins us from the city, and of course, he is talking on the day that we learn about gdp numbers as well. >> that's right. the gdp figures for january were actually pretty good. the growth figure came in at 0.8%, which was appreciably higher than anyone in the market had been expecting. the city consensus was growth of 0.2%, during the month, so much, much better than expected. obviously the economy contracted by 0.2% during december. what is interesting about all of this is it shows potentially that the economy is well on track to meet the growth forecast. and the bank of england is expecting gdp to grow by some 0.75% this year. so that is certainly the right way to go about reaching that sort of number. mr. sunak very, very worried about inflation, the potential of inflation picking up on the back of the war in ukraine. we obviously talked about oil
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and natural gas prices at elevated levels, soft commodities such as wheat and copper and aluminum and nickel, all at record levels or there-abouts and that is potentially going to lead to higher inflation late in the year and crimp on oil prices, and higher oil prices are often referred to as a tax on growth. this isn't just a u.k. situation, it is worth pointing out yesterday, the united states, we learned that inflation last month came in at 7.9%, that is the highest level in four decades, and in the euro zone, inflation is running at 5.4%. more than double the european central bank's target rate. and indeed bcb hinting yesterday that they may be forced to raise interest rates sooner than expected this year, all to the backdrop of the war in ukraine which does as i say threaten to destabilize growth. this is all playing out on global stock markets right now. europe sounded off yesterday
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when the ecb indicated as i say that rates may have to go up earlier than expected this year. we've seen a sell-off in asia overnight. here is the situation in europe right now a bit of rally in europe this morning. european stocks sold off heavily yesterday. on those comments from the ecb. so we're seeing a little built of a rally today. it is a similar situation here in london. the ftse 100 is also currently trading, i think we can show you that one, here it comes, yes, the ftse some 68 points to the good there, up just shy of 1% higher, as i said, across the board rally, really, and on the currency market, very interestingly there, sterling didn't really react to the better than expected gdp figures at all. trading slightly lower against both the u.s. dollar and the euro. the euro popped higher yesterday on the ecb comments. >> ian, many thanks indeed. now chelsea football club waking up in a state of limbo
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this morning. with sanctions imposed on roman eye bramovich yesterday. and dominic joins us, who has written a biography of roman abramovich. good to see you this morning. let's start with the sanctions and the pace or lack thereof, with which they were brought in. why do you think it took the government quite so long to arrive at the position they did yesterday given the fact that roman abramovich when he bought chelsea, all that people could talk about was his links to the kremlin. >> with oligarchs, they have a lot of money to spend, and they wanted to get their ducks in a row, before taking action like this, because they know that if they don't, that then lawyers will turn on them and it could all be reversed. >> obviously we understand that
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abramovich has a strong personal connection to challenge sy, but are they going to have an offer? >> yesterday, the football club valued at 3 billion, it is now getting responses, with the merchandise, and with the market, their chances are that at least a lot of, you know, it is losing because of this, but you know, it is frantically trying to sell properties, and he's got something like 70 properties in london, 170 million pound number. and he can no longer sell. so this is a lot to deal with. >> this kind of sums up the con tent. the billionaire from nowhere. but those who have managed to delve into the biography of roman abramovich, his story is an incredible one. >> yes, i mean he was a
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entrepreneurial young man, selling designer clothes to body guard, and body improvement, and then he hit the jackpot and managed to get a piece of the action in the mineral sell-off in the mid '90s, and $200 million, and going up to a billion, which if you do the math, is 75 times more. and he has lost some money in more recently steel but now his numbers might be 2 billion. >> and what is his relationship with vladimir putin? due get to that level of wealth in russia without having played a part in it, but in terms of the way in which they work with each other, how would you characterize it? >> well, i mean, it has absolutely been hand in glove with the kremlin over 20 years. and one of the scoops in the book, is he stepped aside when
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putin was prime minister, and he created a political unity, designed to be supportive of the parliament. and if they wanted a party which would back the president. which putin began shortly after becoming prime minister. and later he became governor. and he has had' active literal roles for some time. and more recently less so. but certainly going back, many, many years. >> given that he has, frankly if there is an invasion of ukraine, you would have imagine that roman abramovich would be on a sanctions list, how much of his u.k. asset does you think he would be able to move elsewhere? >> part of his yachts, one left barcelona and another in the middle of the caribbean sea, and
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you can't move property, you can't move football club, and while the government took their time to sanction them, it appears that he hasn't been able liquidate many of his assets. >> thanks for joining us. as we head into the weekend, time to have a look at the weather. r. the next few days will be pretty unsettled. strong winds bringing rain to most places today in britain. for the moment, a fine start, and i live in southwest britain and we will see the wind moving in, and northern parts of the country will stay largely dry, with sunny skies. just a few showers for central and western scotland. mostly mild. and probably won't feel it in the strengthening winds.
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coming up, after the break, i will be meeting with one of unicef's aid workers on the front line in poland. that's next. e front line in poland that's next.
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welcome back. just a reminder as to the top stories this hour, russia's military could be within ten miles of the center of kyiv. new satellite imagery suggests that artillery units are setting up. russia could be preparing to use chemical weapons in ukraine. the prime minister has warned of an exclusive interview. and the u.n. security council will meet today, as
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russia's request, preparing biological weapons, washington calls the allegations incorrect. and looking at the situation in ukraine in morning, let's start in the eastern city of kharkiv where the regional governor says a psychiatric hospital has been hit by a russian air strike and he said there is no word on casualties, but perhaps as many as 330 people were in that hospital. three air strikes were set to hit the dnipro area overnight, and emergency messages show one person was killed as a result and two other strikes at the western cities of lutsk and cashes -- casualties recorded.
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we have more images of an air strike. >> we have managed to verify this footage, posted on social media, these strikes took place on an airfield in the city this morning, and the mayor ordering residents to head to shelters after an air-raid sign. it is believed to be the first time the city has been targeted, it sits around 80 miles away from the major western city of lviv, which has become a refuge for ukrainians from across the country. and as we've been reporting this morning, the u.n. migration agency says that more than 2.5 million people have so far fled ukraine. and the u.n. is introducing a new scheme to try to protect vulnerable families who have left their country. and let's speak now to unicef communications specialist, joe english, who joining us from poland's border with ukraine. good to see you. i understand you and your
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colleagues are very busy at the moment and thank you for taking the time and perhaps you could start with exactly what unicef is doing to help people fleeing ukraine. >> thanks much. good to be with you. yes, so the blue dot centers are a way of providing two functions really. first of all, they provide a safe place for children and families. children to play. parents, mothers mostly, who are here with their children in the country. and to find a way to be safe, but it also allows us to have specialists here who are there and able to identify vulnerable families, to ensure that they are getting care, and they have services and they require more aid from local authorities, so there is a path forward in the days, weeks and months to come. >> and in warsaw this morning,
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our colleague had made it pretty clear, given the boarder that exists with ukraine, that so many of 29.5 million people that have -- of the 2.5 million people that have left the country have arrived in poland and they may want to move on to other countries but i suppose that the process that if you have to assist that allowing them to do that, it takes some of the burden off of the polish authorities. >> very much so. the people we have spoken to, the mother and grandmother that we have spoken to, they are in two camp, one is they have a clear idea of the friends and family that they can go to, and they're doing their best to get there, and others are saying they don't want to go too far, everyone we speak to want to go back to ukraine, the kid, the families, that's home and they don't want to be anywhere else and they would don't want to go too far in the hope they can make it back. with the protections in place for the children, it is absolutely huge. we have seen an incredible plan
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in response to poland. but you've got a huge number of people coming in offering goods and services and offering to children and women, and if there are bad actors among those, that we are making sure that there is information, in terms they identify the child and they can know where to refer them and also the people themselves and if you're a mother and cross the border, you're exhausted and you're scared and you're being offered help, you're not necessarily always going to be quite checking that and we have to make sure that there are gangs who are illegal groups who are looking for profit to exploit these people, that they are not able to do so. >> and you have been speaking to a number of women and children who have been crossing over the border and as you said, they have already had to deal with, you know, the trauma of getting to the border, the trauma of leaving their homes and leaving friends and family, but also
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many of them dealing with the fact that they have left their husbands or their father behind to fight. how does an organization like unicef perhaps assess them in keeping in touch, finding out what's going on with husbands and other family members? >> certainly. i mean the feeling is the vast majority of families are in touch. i was at a center yesterday, there was a grandmother and two young children, staying around her, and a young mother, and the kids were saying they were in a safe place, there were toys and the mother was texting furiously on her phone and she had tears rolling down her face and i think the level of sadness, the level of fear and unsureness of what is next is a burden for these families to face and anything we can be doing in the unicef space, providing for kids to be children again, to play,
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to do puzzles on the floor, that is often the first step in their recovery from these traumatic experiences. >> tell us then just a little bit more about the facilities that will be available to the children in these blue dot centers. as you say, just five minutes, sitting and watching cartoons, doing some coloring, and perhaps it may be enough for them to briefly forget what they've been going through. >> very much. so and this is something that you know unicef does all the way around. >> i've seen this areas, in somalia, where you can provide places where kids can feel comfortable with their friends and crayons and coloring books and paper. and for the first couple of hours, the first couple of days, they may be silent, withdrawn, not playing with friends and angry or lashing out, and slowly but surely they start to come out and they start to act more
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like you would expect kids to do. they're playing. they're laughing. some of these pictures that we see the kids here, it really shows the reality of what they've experienced, and the trauma they've been through and you see a steady pictures of the pictures of guns and bombs and airplanes, you expect to see trees and flowers and football, and so that is going to be critical, in allowing these kids to just begin to rebuild their childhood. >> many thanks for what you're doing. and there is a child near you who might need some attention. >> yes. >> and working on the ground here with unicef, i know from the social media this morning, any number of people getting touch, after the interviews we have done in and around ukraine at the moment, that people want to help, and how can they? >> yes, definitely, so go to unicef.org.uk and you can donate
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to support our work there. absolutely critical. not only for the refugees of hosting countries but also for our work inside ukraine, with more than 130 colleagues on the ground, and as long as we have the safety and security guaranteed, you know, we're trying to reach every child, to be protected, no matter inside the country or whether they've been brought to safety. >> we will let you continue. give that little one a big hug for me. and thanks for joining us. we appreciate it. >> thanks very much. in just a moment, i will be speaking a surgeon training doctors in ukraine, coming up. doctors in ukraine, coming up.
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as russia continues to rage its war in ukraine, the casualties of the conflict, speaking to us, teaching surgeons and professor hanly marsh, professor, great to have you on the program this morning am and just tell us a little bit about what you and indeed david north have been doing, there can't be many people who haven't conducted at least some of their businesses and indeed we are right now, over the past couple of years, but the idea of teaching someone trauma medicine
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in the field, i mean that's quite something. >> i've been working in the ukrainian context, i've worked in ukraine for 30 years, and david is britain's most experienced war zone disaster surgeon. and he has a foundation with teachers, with surgery and doctors, he has produced a webinar, the first was 12 hours long, and he has now worked very hard to produce a three-hour version, which we are trying get out to as many ukrainian doctors as possible. war zone surgery is profoundly different from peacetime surgery. and very few doctors in ukraine, until now, would have had any experience of it. >> well, one person who has plenty of experience, we will look at momentarily, david was once described as knowing more about war surgery than perhaps anyone on earth, so clearly, a
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lot of information can be imparted, but does teaching in this form not suffer from being done, at such a removed way. >> it must inevitably, but it is better than nothing. we are watching a huge humanitarian crisis, a terrible historical crime, and we feel helpless, and at least we must try to do what we can. >> how is it being received by the medical practitioners, the professionals? >> well, my colleagues have got back to me and say they're getting some help and they want an abbreviated version they can download themselves, and the foundation at the moment is looking into ways, how we can distribute this as widely as possible. but of course, as the war progresses, the internet fails and i just heard that the hospital in the middle of
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bombing there has now lost its electricity supply this morning, i think. >> professor, clearly you have a number of your friends, your colleagues, working in and around ukraine, that's why you have been able to pass those contacts on to others, and just tell us, from a personal view, your feelings about what you have seen fake place in ukraine over the past -- what you have seen take place in ukraine over the past couple of weeks. >> personally, it is agony and then it is 100 times worse for my friends in ukraine. i talk to them on the phone several times a day. they find it kind of helpful and reassuring to hear a voice from the outside world, but i know all of these places, i've been to them all for 30 years, and i know kyiv the same as i know london and it makes it painful, but anything i feel is trivial compared to what my friends and colleagues are having to suffer
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at the moment. >> indeed. so perhaps you right could tell us, professor, a little bit of the conditions that they are working at the moment, clearly, anyone with medical knowledge in ukraine at the moment will want to do as much as they can to alleviate the loss of life, but it must be pretty difficult to put it mildly. >> well, i mean in the middle of the war areas, like mariupol, and kharkiv, i know no more than what we're seeing on television, and i have no contact with anyone i know there. my main friends, most of my friends are in lviv and kyiv, and kyiv is still quiet, the hospitals are quiet, and they're not yet admitting mass casualties, but the russians are lining up all around the northwest of kyiv, and i'm afraid mass cashes will be happening. and then the situation in the hospitals will become dire.
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they are fairly well stocked at the moment, with equipment, and supplies, and there is no word how much longer that will be the case. >> professor marsh, just a final word from you on the courses that you've been doing, it is clear they will be benefitting for those who will be able to get a hold of them and people who are watching this, if they want to get access to these course, where can they find them if they haven't necessarily seen them so far? >> well, the david knot foundation, which has a web site. >> we will direct them to it. professor, we appreciate your time this morning. >> thank you very much. time for us to take a quick look at weather. s to take a qui look at weather.
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the next few days will be unsettled with strong rain and winds, and a mild start, but ireland and southwest britain will see the rain moving in. it will spread northeastward during the morning. and northern and some eastern parts of britain will stay mostly dry with sunny spell, a few showers for central and western scotland, it will be mostly mild, but it probably won't feel it, with the strengthening winds, with coastal gales possible. across the rest of britain, brighter conditions will move in to ireland, wales and western england. heavy downpours will bring the risk of hail and thunder. the rain will clear northeastward overnight. leaving plenty of showers. >> and that is all for today. i will be back tomorrow. up next, we will have all of the
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latest on the war in ukraine. i'll see you tomorrow.
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russia widens its attacks on ukraine with air strikes on new targets including two in the western part of the country, pushing closer to nato territory. meanwhile, russia continues to pound the battered city of mariupol, refusing to let up. preventing much-needed aid from getting in, and civilians from getting out. plus, the u.s. continues to sound the alarm, warning that russia may be gearing up to use biological and chemical weapons. we'll hear from the cia director on that. and vice president kamala harris on the move this morning, this video just coming in from warsaw, as she met with

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