>> good evening everyone, i am ayman mohyeldin. you are seeing the continuing coverage of the crisis in ukraine for nearly three weeks, now ukrainian forces have stymied russian efforts to topple its government and bomb its citizens into submission, but now, russian troops are making progress in their push to take the capital city of kyiv. they are about 15 miles away from the city center. a senior defense official tells nbc news those forces could fully encircled the capital in the next week. ukraine's president, volodymyr zelenskyy, is warning that his russian --

excuse, me this russian progress comes as vladimir putin prepares a new phase in his, quote, war of annihilation. today, russian forces bombed residential apartments and stores damaged a cancel hospital in one southern city. they shelled a mosque in another. president zelenskyy said the war has already resulted in the deaths of 1300 ukrainian soldiers. and according to un estimates, more than 1500 civilian casualties. of the leaders in france in germany, for the, pride participated in a 90 minute phone call with vladimir putin that they made little progress and convincing him to end his onslaught. in fact, the french government said that putin's set showed no willingness to stop the conflict. and that as the war leads to the biggest refugee crisis europe has seen since world war ii. more than 2.5 million refugees have now fled their homes. we've got a lot to cover in this hour, let's start with nbc news correspondent allie a rookie who is live in ukraine for us. ali, we have been speaking

throughout the night in the earlier hours, we heard of air raid sirens. you are now hearing shelling, is that correct? >> we heard some loud thuds in the distance from where we are right now. certainly not in the center of lviv where we are. but there are four or five thugs that came in the distance. we're not getting any reports on what happens right now but it adds to that feeling of being disconcerted here. you don't know what's going on or where these thugs are coming from. but you know, as you have been reporting,, amen as, well over the last 36 hours, the russians have intensified and brought and their attacks. it's gone from the east to the center of the country. and now to the west. so things do feel like they are picking up and, just to give you an update of what's going on in the country right now, we know that the russian forces are probably about ten or 15 miles outside of the capital of

kyiv. the trips are amassed there. and from everything we can gather, the bulk of the russian troops that are on the ground here in ukraine are pretty much amassed on the outskirts of kyiv. of course, the fear, the concern is that they are going to try and launch a much fuller, broader attack on the capital city. that they may try to encircle the capital city as they have done with other cities and towns across the country. it's not clear if they have the capability to overrun kyiv firstly, they've been plagued with logistical issues and not least of all because of the fierce resistance that we put up by the people living in kyiv. which is essentially a fortress town. elsewhere in the country, mariupol has been shelled very heavily. they have been persistently shelled over the last few days. the town has been raised to the

ground. residents of mariupol, 400,000 of them, are essentially hostages in that city. as you mentioned, a mosque was bombed in that city, about 80 people were taking shelter in the mosques. all the windows were blown out. they don't have any water or electricity. they are taking shelter in below freezing conditions there. earlier today, there was meant to be a convoy of about 60 vehicles going into mariupol, carrying humanitarian aid. as well as buses to get civilians out of there. that convoy didn't make it in. the hopes are that that will make it in the morning. but as you well know, the russians have not honored those safe passages so far. so it will be a humanitarian disaster, broad and if those trucks do not get into there. but you know, as we speak, things are tense here. this was meant to be the peaceful part of ukraine. this is where the exodus of the

displaced people were coming either to stay here and move on, and now this is also a city shrouded in uncertainty. nobody is quite sure of what's going to happen next. when we spoke earlier, the air raid siren went out about two hours ago. all clear has not been given for everyone to come out of those bunkers. so everybody is still hanging tight in whatever basement bunkers they can get themselves into after those air raid sirens went off, about two and a half hours ago. >> all right, ali arouzi with us from the. ali, please stay safe, and keep us up to date on any information you get throughout this hour. we turn now to nbc news correspondent john lederman who is live in poland for us, a country that the u.s. -- has taken about 1.5 million of the 2.5 million refugees who have managed to get out. josh, it's good to have you with us. let's talk both about the humanitarian development but also let's talk about the

diplomatic efforts in these calls by the leaders of germany and france to, perhaps, tried to persuade vladimir putin to end his war which has been unsuccessful by the sounds we were hearing from ali arouzi. what can you tell us about these two developments? >> to start with the humanitarian issues, as we mentioned, poland has seen the vast majority of the refugees who have fled out of the ukraine. and it's really pushing the system here to the brink. the mayors of the two largest cities, warsaw, and crackle, both warning that they have just about accepted as many as they can without needing significant outside help, and they are calling for the european union, as well as the united nations to step up. this is not one of those situations where you have massive government run refugee camps. the vast majority of the refugees are being housed and helped by volunteers, by the average polish individual.

showing up at the border with tea, bringing people into their homes. the government here is now offering 40 is lattes to each family that take -- takes in a refugee payday. that's the equivalent of nine or ten u.s. bucks. but it speaks to the immense challenge here as this country is trying to figure out how to care for their ukrainian neighbors with the mayor of krakow saying, they are now sending some of the refugees they are getting to neighboring communities because they just can't absorb it that fast. that's a city of less than 800,000 people that has already accepted about 100,000 refugees. many of them being housed in hotels where hotel keepers are simply offering up their services and their rooms to try to take these folks in. the humanitarian crisis is one of the topics that president putin was heard from in his

conversation with german chancellor olaf scholz and french president emmanuel macron, both of whom urged an immediate cease fire to try to prevent this humanitarian catastrophe from getting any worse. but a french presidential source telling reporters that it was a very difficult call, that putin -- suggested no indication he was ready at this point to end this war and that the two leaders left this without feeling like there was much of an indication that there's any room for serious diplomacy right now, even as they, along with the israelis, the turks, several other governments, we'll have offered to act as mediators and negotiators, holdout dim hopes that there will be some type of diplomatic way to prevent this violence from continuing at least in the medium to long term, even. >> nbc's josh lederman in poland for us, josh, thank you so much for joining us. stay safe, my friend. and turning now to one of the youngest groups forced to flee

-- orphans. debra ross's office was contacted by a doctor working in ukraine to get 20 to 30 orphans, most of whom, we should note, had been adopted by families in the united states, out of the war zone. but there is an issue. if these children leave to go to poland or another neighboring country, their paperwork, their adoption paperwork essentially becomes, or might become, invalidated, making it even more difficult to get to america. joining me now is democratic congresswoman deborah ross of north carolina. congresswoman, thanks so much for joining us. this is a heartbreaking situation. what more can you tell us? i know you've been working with a doctor who has been trying to get roughly 30 orphans out of the war zone. can you talk to us a little bit about that effort or this part of the effort to getting them out? where does that stand right now? >> so, what we have been doing and this is just heartbreaking

because these children have been adopted. it's a paperwork glitch. and they need the time to have the paperwork completed, but that's a very difficult thing to do when war is going on. and so, what congress has done is invest more in uscis which is the agency that deals with the adoptions. what we are trying to do is get the state department to focus on expediting these adoptions. just, it's a small number of refugees and actually these are adopted kids but they would otherwise be refugees. we want to do everything that we can to move this forward. it's a good thing that the government is aware of this and that there are resources for it, but with everything going on, we really have to highlight this and show that we can make a difference in these children's lives and that there are loving families in the

united states who are well ready to welcome them. there are also other categories of orphans who we've have been advocating for those, those who have been guests with host families in the united states. there are other members on congress who have been working on that issue, but these are the most vulnerable kids. they don't necessarily have advocates, and if they end up in another country, they might not be able to be with the families who want to love them, adopt them, and bring them to the united states. >> as i understand it, congresswoman, it's not just parents who have adopted the -- the new york times is also reporting that it's also other families, among, them ukrainian surrogates. what are the steps that the american government can take to perhaps make it easier on these families to connect with their kids? >> that's a great question and we have been reaching out to

the state department to ask them what we can do to help people go through the appropriate steps. this advocacy is ongoing, we've been working on it all week ever since we heard of the situation. several of my colleagues at the same concerns and we have been writing to the state department about this so they are well aware. we also, just this week, appropriated more money for refugees for usaid, and for the areas the state department that we'll deal with this issue. and we will not stop. we will be back in washington next week, lots of in-person meetings and calls. i know that dr. lynn is advocating for this. and i would just say that people should contact their congress people from all over the country. of course, i'm aware of it because i was contacted in my office and we have a very robust program to help people

with immigration issues and with refugee issues. we did so with afghanistan as well and we have been doing that with central america. but the more people who bring attention to this issue, and the more people who contact their congress people, the better chance we will have of making this a priority during a very difficult situation for the state department. >> and it's one of the reasons why we wanted to do the segment put this spotlight on it to see if we can get some help. but let me ask you more broadly speaking but the u.s. government can be doing because as heartbreaking as it is to think about it, specifically for these orphans and parents were trying to adopt these children or be reunited with their children, what more should the u.s. government be doing to help with the nearly two and a half million refugees? how many refugees should we be taking in, what should the process be looking like? it's obviously very different for the people in poland in europe than it is for what we are doing on this side of the

atlantic. so what more do you think we should be doing as a country? >> we should be doing a lot more. so as i said, the united -- the congress just appropriated 1.4 billion dollars for refugees from ukraine. and that is going to be signed by the president within days. we've also appropriated more than two billion dollars for usaid and more money for u.s. -- for the immigration service. but we have a problem with how we deal with refugees in this country. and it is not just from ukraine. we have a broken immigration system. and we have got to have more humanitarian focus on refugees. there are problems all over the world, especially right now in the ukraine, and we cannot expect other nations to bear all of the responsibility for these refugees. we have a large population, we

have so many, nonprofit institutions, churches, people who want to help. so many of the churches and the ngos. in my district and in dc. they want to do what they can to help refugees and we have to loosen up our policies for accepting them. at the very least, in a temporary way. but, you know, granting them permanent status if they cannot return to their countries. so, those are topics for congress when we get back. i know i am not alone in caring about this. these have been issues all over the world for years. and we finally have an administration that cares about that kind of humanitarian relief. and i think it's time to act in a bipartisan way. >> >> congresswoman congresswoman deborah deborah roth, thank you ross, thank you so so much for joining us. much for i know it is late. joining us. i with the appreciate your time this evening.

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resources right now, like protective gear, medicine and medical equipment in ukraine. a lot of it available goes to the military, but civilian volunteer forces also desperately need those supplies. my next guest has been tapped by the zelenskyy administration, and ahead of the ukrainian territorial defence forces, to help out those forces and more. joining me now is timothy, president of keeps school of economics, and ukraine's former minister of economic development, trade and agriculture. timothy, it's great to have you with us. what's the situation like on the ground for the civilian defense forces in ukraine, as of today? >> so in the first two weeks,

overall, because of the clustering that most people are dying from shrapnel, from flax. and essentially you need a lot a lot of specific medical kits. which will help to stop bleeding mediately. and we're talking about hundreds of thousands of units that you need. we have the first shipment of 10, 000, sorry, 30, 000, but the ministry of health just requested another 200 from us. of course, there's a surge in demand, and you need it now, so the prices went up, and that may cost $100 per unit. we have been able to find ways about five to $10 million, so you know, it's underway. but this is essentially what's needed. protective gear, helmets and

medical kits to stop the bleeding. ever since the rates in ukraine, goes to protect the west, and ever since the rates in the west, what does medical kits, unless they say otherwise. >> rates, how concerned are you and there's been some current talk about the russians possibly attacking the supply route, bringing in much-needed equipment and medicine, and protective gear. how concerned are you perhaps that the russians may disrupt the supply lines? have you seen any disruption to the supply lines, to get this much critical needed stuff to the people on the frontlines in, who needed? >> essentially, get to some houses which are in the western border as much as possible and then the government will provide some security. they wouldn't tell us exactly what because everything is

changing. and it's also classified information. we can only say vaguely with the area is, and including the area in the country. for security reasons or for the things that are happening on the ground for several reasons. we sent our trucks there and then they can get it there. but i think the military convoys are great. >> you're obviously part of the effort. you've managed to assemble, i believe, about 3000 kits, as we mentioned, containing helmets, flak jackets, medical supplies, first aid gets. can you tell us about where you got these materials from? and where are you sending them to right now? which part of the country is in desperate need of them? >> yeah, mark brzezinski so mariupol, for example, everything in the east there requesting all protective kits, but you know, the really really in urgent need of medical kits, to stop this bleeding.

so that is mariupol, and also give,. from odessa to kyiv, to the north in chernihiv two sumy. there are borders on the ground. we are in the headquarters of the defense ministry of the house of ukraine and they're just asking us what to do. you know, it's everything from the u.s. to israel to central european countries. it's available to ship now because it's tiny. and then we're establishing medium to longer term contracts with suppliers who are ramping up production, but are willing to give us much better prices. >> i want to ask you about the broader medical condition right now the country finds itself in, because there is still a public health crisis that is unfolding. and obviously, not just the war with all the challenges that it's bringing. you're still dealing with a global pandemic.

and although people may not be as afraid of the pandemic, there are still very much afraid of the war. but the unfortunate reality is that ukraine was not doing very well with the vaccination. i believe that only a third of ukrainians are vaccinated. and on top of that, you have millions of people fleeing. how concerned are you about that aspect of the public health, of ukraine? >> there are multiple concerns, you know, you can speak to three areas. first of all, there are areas which are under russian control, and there, you have all kinds of issues. people are not getting insulin, for instance. and we're switching regularly to supply that, because once the first need passes the first two weeks, then we are now in a country of supplies. and we need to do something immediate. and then, the problem is

delivery. and i think only a few organizations which are really capable of delivering to the cities which are occupied. for example, ukrainian red cross, just a ukrainian red cross, and some other volunteers, but they're working with domestic organizations inside ukraine because they will do everything to -- then the second one is, overall treatment. not only of covid, but all kinds of treatments. so the best ukrainian hospitals are open in central ukraine. but in the east of ukraine, obviously, there's no capacity to do that. and then, you are correct about the vaccination rates. it's not sufficiently high, and going into this period was actually an increased number of covid inventions. but it was expected to -- and to decrease where to have a unit for the continuous operation, they're working with the ministry of health on

covid. it feels like we have past the things that we were supposed to pass. but we don't know how this flows of refugees will affect the contagion, and infection rates. so we are worried about that, and yes it's a problem. you're correct. >> all right, mr. tymofiy mylovanov, sir, thanks you very much for your time. weekly appreciate your insights and please, please stay safe. thank you. still ahead, trying to understand the magnitude of this war through pictures. that's next. that's next. (vo) for me, one of the best things about life is that we keep moving forward. we discover exciting new technologies. redefine who we are and how we want to lead our lives. basically, choose what we want our future to look like. so what's yours going to be?

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of your photos which have been going viral on social media for weeks. earlier today, lindsey or dario spoke to msnbc, ali velshi, of the challenges in this conflict. >> throughout the last month that i've been here, i focused primarily on civilians, women and children, because i believe they are the people who pay the highest toll. and they are innocent victims. so for me, you know, i'm not a professional to decide whether they are warcrimes or not, but i've seen the intentional targeting of civilians. and to, me that is the most terrific thing that i could've witness since i've been here. >> lindsey, i want to show a uninvited of a foot or you took a for women armed in the back of the van. a lot of people have been struck by the strength of civilians, people who have never owned a gun, never shot at anything before, in particular men are compelled to stay by law in ukraine, men of

fighting age. the women are not. but they are taking up arms. tell me about this image that you have taken. >> this was in the first few days of the war. and what was incredible to me was seeing the unbelievable mobilization of civilians across the board. and we went -- it's hard to get access to these bases. we were finally permitted to go in this van where we watched for five women enter. and i started speaking to julia, the woman in the center of the photograph, and she started crying and saying, i'm a teacher, and i said, do you even know how to use a gun? she said, no. two days ago, they handed me a gun and now i'm here to fight for my country. and i said, are you crying because you're scared are you crying for your country and she said both, i'm scared but i'm most scared for my country. >> one of the things that i've seen here, as people come, in our children, lots, and lots, and lots of children. i want to put up a photo that you took of children waving

from a train. you've been talking to families, the children with -- its such a poignant photo. i don't know where these children are going or where they are ending up, but tell me about this one. >> i mean, it's they're basically going west. every single person who can takes the train west. they don't care where they are going, they try to get to lviv, they try to get to pull, and they try to go where they can. but the fact is, they are trying to get out of here because people are now terrified. last night was heavy, heavy artillery. we heard sums all night long in kyiv. today, i was in irpin, it was heavy artillery all night long. and now i'm just a mile away from that location, watching people get brought out, and it's almost dark so we will be pulling out of here now. >> generally speaking, everybody i see coming here is a military. they can walk. we have seen some people in wheelchairs or on crutches, or who look like they are unwell. you have a photograph though of

first responders carrying an elderly woman out of rubble. i want to put the photograph up and i was wondering if you could give us some of the context here. >> she is -- it's apocalyptic. these are people, people are still making their way out of irpin, and the village. there's heavy fighting there. and the last two have remained behind, the elderly, the ill, people who cannot walk. those are the ones coming out today who were coming out this morning, we have been coming out for the last few days. and it is the saddest thing because they -- most of them are so old they assume they would die in their homes, they would die in their villages. and here they are being brought out across the bridge, carried out. they have no idea where they're gonna sleep tonight, they have no idea what remains for them. i think that's the tragedy of war. >> lindsay, this tragedy in every conflict and war that you have covered. you've even been -- you've been taken -- you've been held by

authorities. you faced it. all tell me, what stands out about this one for you. >> i mean it's just completely unprompted invasion of a sovereign country. and it's just unbelievable, it came, we watched it sort of in slow motion. people are being bombarded for absolutely no reason. they are fleeing, we have millions who have fled. this is -- it just seems completely unjustified. it seems completely ridiculous. >> that was new york times's photo journalist lindsey odario with ali velshi. and coming, up to point -- the polish people are welcoming them with open arms. with open arms. and doug. we gotta tell people that liberty mutual customizes car insurance so you only pay for what you need, and we gotta do it fast. [limu emu squawks] woo! thirty-four miles per hour!

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rally in warsaw where polls wave ukrainian and polish flags, the ukrainian ambassador to pullen says he is grateful to the polish people for their support during the russian invasion of ukraine. poland has accepted more refugees more than any other countries since the war began, and, fortunately, they have been welcomed by locals eager to help. lisa hollander from sky news has more. >> this is what we organized temporarily. this >> is just one of the dozens and dozens of refugee centers being set up in warsaw.

a welcome camp bed after the bunkers and the bombs, and the days of travel. >> ukraine, i love you. >> they long to be home. but family after family tells of the trauma of escaping war. you will be a struggle to reach kyiv train station with her daughter with epilepsy and her son who is autistic. >> what can i say, she says, it was so hard trying to hold my children's hands in case they fell and carry their luggage. then, she reveals 11 year old nikita after being born with deformed feet. she got here getting one of her children was barely able to walk. others at the shelter in need medical help. a young girl is on a drip, dehydrated after the exhaustion

of the journey to poland. now made by 1 million and a half people. >> so the problem now, because so many refugees have come to the polish capital, because the authorities are so stretched, they have to provide more permanent accommodation, or bus people to other polish cities. this refugee crisis is defined as an exodus of women and children. across the city, there are makeshift nurseries to entertain the youngsters. and women distraught, they've left husbands, brothers, and fathers behind in ukraine. i know has left her husband in kyiv. she also has to contend with a mother in law in russia who refuses to accept why she has fled to poland. >> she said, oh it's just a little -- not big situation. just a little. i said, mom, we have no house. russia's destroyed our house.

>> across poland, thousands of people who needed no persuasion of the horrors of this war are taking in refugees. english teacher, victor johnson, and his wife offered a home to marta and her grandchildren, both of the children's parents are still in ukraine. >> i didn't speak to marta before she came here, she just turned up in a car. and so we met them with high fives and hugs, invited them in, made them feel at home. and that was the most important thing that we felt -- that they felt safe and secure. >> we asked them how they're settling in all things considered. >> okay, nice. >> just one example of kindness of strangers in the midst of war. lisa holland, sky news, warsaw. ws>> that was sky news is lisa hollen, thanks for that. still ahead, we will hear from

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miscalculation since he invaded ukraine. he underestimated ukrainians's will to fight, he underestimated zelenskyy's leadership, and he certainly underestimated the backlash that came from the west. but while those miscalculations have cost him on the battlefield, it's also hardened him even further against ukraine to the point where presidents ellen ski said that putin's assault has become a war of annihilation. ukrainian officials are saying that russia is the deliberately preventing civilians from getting out of besieged port city mariupol, and stopping humanitarian convoys from getting in. ukraine's accused russian forces from shelling residents

and my ripple. presidents in the city of mykolaiv were sent to bomb shelters after buildings were shelled, including a cancer hospital. and ukrainian officials claim that russia used high precision weapons to destroy a military airfield southwest of kyiv. joining me now is igor novikov he's a former advisor to zelenskyy. he's chosen to stay in kyiv with his family. igor, thank you for joining us. , i greatly appreciate it. i know that britain's defense minister says that russian forces that are about 15 miles from kyiv city center. our colleagues at sky news are reporting that kyiv's mayor said that he believed the city has enough vital supplies to last a couple of weeks with nearly 2 million people who have remained in the capital. what's next for the 2 million people who remain in the capital city, including you and your family? >> well, hi, good evening. first of all, next as we fight. this is our homeland.

that's a question that i get asked the most. why do ukrainian state to -- why do they choose to stay, why don't they just move to poland? they're too answers. as i mentioned yesterday, just ask the veterans.

described. the situation is bad, don't get me wrong. but at the same time, saying that russian forces are 15 miles out of central kyiv is true only they move into -- they fly over kyiv. it's not that easy to get at the center. people who live in kyiv, with all the traffic, and all the guns stepping sticking out of every building and high rise building, it might be difficult. so it will take some time. on top of that, look, kyiv is a huge city. it's split in two by a big river. it's not easy to swim circle it. and if you carefully look at what's happening in mariupol and other cities, they are smaller than kyiv, they are not capital cities, and they are still standing. so with conventional weapons, seizing kyiv is either huge mistake or a miscalculation, or

a bluff. at the same time, we won't get our hopes up. it has become a war of annihilation, and it's a war for territory, not the people. so putin doesn't care about the ukrainian people and if he annihilates us, and gets the territory, he will be okay with that. so it's going to get ugly if they move close. if they move against kyiv, that's a separate question. because they plan to take it within 48 to 96 hours. so we are now on day 17, and they are not even close. the southern parts of kyiv, where i am, we haven't even seen some major fighting yet. so we are hearing everything, by the way tonight, it is a surprisingly quiet night. it makes you worry, actually. you get used to the bombs and explosions. but i think that we are still a few days away from anything major happening in kyiv.

>> do you have any faith in any of the diplomatic processes that are underway? you have the israeli leader speaking to both, you have the foreign ministers meeting in turkey. today, we heard some calls from the french and the german leaders to vladimir putin. somebody inside of ukraine, as somebody who knows the leadership of that country, what is your assessment of all of these diplomatic maneuverings? are they just a waste of time? >> i don't think diplomacy is a waste of time. diplomacy should be practiced up until the very end. but at the same time, look, we don't know what the endgame is for president putin. i'm not even sure he knows what the end game is for him. diplomacy will only work if he's looking for an off ramp. if his endgame is potentially challenging the very foundation

of the architecture of, global politics and geopolitics, it's not going to work. and look, if i may, i'd like to take this opportunity to actually argue with the rhetoric that i am hearing about world war iii. i don't think, even if the u. s. or nato, or certain nato members, helped ukraine with an ukraine that's going to be a pretext that we're at the beginning of the world war iii. let me remind you that in the 20th century, during the cold war, there was a korean war, nearly open fighting the soviets against the u.s. army. you know, there were certain elements to the vietnam war and so on and so forth. and none of that led to world war iii. but, what i think is going to happen, if ukraine falls, and without major help from the west, we will fight until the very end. but you know, it's difficult. there's always a likelihood that we will fall.

then, when putin gets our western border, that's when you are looking at world war iii. and something tells me that putin is not going to stop there. and what should be done? that's the most important part. the west needs to understand how president putin operates. he is practicing a new type of warfare, a hybrid warfare. we have talked about the information war, we've talked about cyberattacks and everything. but he actually weaponizes every day phenomena and things against -- to work against you. he weaponized your fear, that's why he's kind of escalating this war in ukraine, by simply using your own fear as a weapon. fear of nuclear attacks, fear of chemical attacks, fear of world war iii. he's weaponized corporate greed against you. basically, he's encouraging with rubles and with dollars, he is encouraging international businesses to actually stay in russia. kind of teasing it in. and that makes you weaker. that destroys the consolidation

of the west. until there is an understanding of that, and until there is pushback on those fronts, nothing is going to work against him. he's going to keep escalating. and let me remind you one last thing, at the moment it's only russia, but potentially, i mean there's a certain alliance kind of brewing there. and you know, what we have seen today in iraq for example could just be a coincidence or a could be a first small step to bigger action and we will see it happen over, and over, and over again. to disperse and to dissipate the tension. it might get really ugly for the world. >> very interesting observation. igor novikov thank you so much for joining us, i wish you and your family safety. i will see you tomorrow on nbc. tomorrow on nbc

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