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>> breaking right now on msnbc. russia strikes even further west, targeting a military base just miles away from nato territory. ukrainian officials say at least 35 people were killed. to the east, satellite images give us a closer look at the horrific destruction, left behind by bombings in mariupol. and, in the midst of all of the shelling, firefights, a reminder of the very real human toll. and medical team in ukraine, forced to load dozens of kids and battling cancer onto trains. president biden, along with viewers on capitol hill, get ready to send even more aid to ukraine. despite russia's threat, that
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it considers american convoys legitimate targets. plus, putin's crackdown on all independent media means that russians are only hearing his versions of events. we will talk to a journalist who spent days on and watching russian state tv. how it all aligns with some american media figures, like tucker carlson, and what they are saying, here at home. plus, as the bombings ramp up, hundreds of thousands of new refugees are flooding into eastern europe. how everyday people are doing their part by opening their homes. >> we do not speak to marta before she came here. she just turned up. so, we met them with -- and invited them in, made them feel at home. >> good morning. i am stephen romo, it is sunday, march 13th. a lot to get to today. we had a team of correspondents and analysts around the world this morning. following the latest developments, happening right now. and we begin with breaking news in ukraine. at least 35 people have been killed and 134 injured after
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russia launched an airstrike on the international scene of peace keeping and security. a military base in the western part of the country. this information, according to local government officials. the base is just outside of lviv on the western border. dangerously close to nato territory. but [noise] working right now, on the aftermath, we will show you those once we get it verified. other ports in mariupol, shelling has been relentless. russian forces, hammering cities downtown, including a mosque, industrial buildings and homes. satellite images show the extent of the damage to that city. outside of the capital of kyiv, fighting raged on the outskirts, northwest of their seven ukrainian civilians, including a child were killed in an evacuation convoy, targeted by russian forces. that, according to the ukrainian defense minister. all of this comes as russia now warns that western arms shipments sent to ukraine will
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be considered quote, illegitimate targets for russian forces. leading off our coverage, with nbc news reporters how he under, and kelly cobiella and josh off, poland. molly, first to you, you are near the military base in the, that was hit. what can you tell us about that right now? >> yes. stephen, that is right misses the westernmost attack so far the russians have launched i'm middle of a visit mentioned, it's almost all the way to the polish border. really it has been the relative combat, i'm at the transition and you can see this is the destination for anyone who is coming, evacuating from the east as the departure point for anybody going on to poland, where kelly's, or two surrounding countries. we did just get an update. this base is 15 miles from the border. 30 cruise missiles were shot at the base. the ukrainian officials say they shot down many of those, we don't have an exact number. but this is a base for nato exercises have happened, foreign military instructors have been there since 2015, according to sky news.
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american military structures houston time at the base. we asked the ministry of defense this morning whether any foreign military instructors were either part of those injured, or a part of those of course killed, or even at the base. we have not received an answer. but as you said, that death toll, really just skyrocketed in the last 35 people have been confirmed dead. 134 injured. stephen? >> that is concerning, indeed. we are also hearing reports, molly, of another mayor of the ukrainian city being kidnapped by russian troops. can you tell us anything about that? >> yes, that is right. this is the second day in a row this has happened. yesterday, stephen, we were talking at the mayor of mariupol who was apparently abducted, according to ukrainian officials. last night, ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy came on air and said no one was made dresses extra, and implored the russians to give up this mare and this is a tactic ukraine officials say is a psychological tactic, in addition to kind of rating food stores, terrorizing the local community and taking local
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officials. this with a second ukrainian official to our knowledge who has been taken, or abducted, if confirmed in the war so far, stephen. >> kelly. now, to you. as this humanitarian crisis worsens over there in poland, there are new warnings of ukrainian refugees that could be targeted by human traffickers. what are we hearing about that? >> that is right, stephen. we are talking about huge numbers of people arriving, just in poland alone, every day. nearly 80,000 arrived in poland yesterday. those numbers continue to be that large or larger, a huge volume of people. a lot who are arriving now do not have friends or family, or a place to go. not in poland, or the other bordering countries. this makes them more vulnerable. the associated press has reported that a man from poland has been arrested on sexual assault charges for allegedly luring a 19 year old refugee from ukraine, with promises of
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a free place to stay, possibly work. we talked to some volunteers as well who say they have seen this inaction. they claim, they have alerted police to it. they believe they have stopped traffickers from taking refugees. >> police and polish officials are doing this anyways, trying to really control these places where the refugees are arriving, like this train station and other train stations. they have put out a huge number of police, firefighters. there are also volunteers over here. they cut off the access points, so only people who are registered with the government can be host families, and can come in, park here, collect their refugee family and then, they are once again checked as they leave. so they are trying to get a handle on this. but steven, with such huge numbers of people coming in every single day, nearly 1.7 million people have now come across the border into poland,
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since this began. so it's a really difficult thing to get a handle on. stephen? >> so awful, these people already forced from their homes. now, dealing with that potential threat. kelly, reporting must from poland, and molly under reported much from lviv, ukraine. thank you, both. for more on all of this, we are joined by ukrainian member of parliament, -- and andrew shapiro, director and founder of beacon global strategies. first, enough, you are in kyiv, region of kyiv right now. how are you doing, first of all? what is life like for you right now? >> well, i think it is, well, now given the baseline, it is better than people living in mariupol, people living in my native kharkiv, which had been bombarded and destroyed. i am safe, to an extent. all of my loved ones are alive. of course, the situation in the city of kyiv is extremely intense, because we do see that the russians have an idea of gathering their forces and
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entering the city of kyiv. they have been held off by the ukrainian army, who have pushed them further from the northeastern side of the city. but they are still fighting. they are still trying to get their forces to root their troops out. we do expect they might try to get into the city. it has been fortifying itself, as much as possible. as of right now, it is almost impossible to get into the territorial defense, just because it is stuffed. as a member of parliament, i was asked by some friends of friends were asking me inna, can help us get into the territorial defense? because they are not taking in any more people. that tells me about the resilience of the ukrainian people and their willingness to protect our city. of course, there are those terrible bombardments, it is difficult to do much just on the ground, if our sky remains open for the russian attacks. >> and andrew, i wanted to talk about the air strike that has happened at that base, which we have just heard about. the u.s. and nato, regularly
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send instructors there to train ukrainian soldiers. there are also national nato drills carried out there. why do you think that location was targeted? >> well, as we have heard, the russian campaign is not proceeding as they had originally hoped. they thought this campaign would be over in three days. and they will be able to replace the government in kyiv. that has not happened. this has now turned into a longer slot. they are now looking for ways to put pressure on the ukrainian government as well as the western countries that are supporting them. so they targeted a facility where western military forces have worked with ukrainians in the past, as a way to send a message that they do not want the west to support ukraine, provide weapons and say they will be a price to be paid for
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those who support the ukrainians. i do not think that it is going to work. i think it wreaks of some desperation. but, they are clearly expanding beyond just the areas in the north, south and east, two targets in the west. to try and send a message to both the ukrainians and the west about the potential expansion of the battlefield. >> confirming that expansion. andrew, in an interview with a german newspaper, jan stoltenberg, un general secretary said that russia might use chemical weapons following the invasion, and such a move would be a war crime. having served as the assistant secretary of state for political and military affairs, how likely do you think it is that russia will use chemical weapons in ukraine? is there anything the west could do to prevent that? >> certainly, we hope that they won't. but the russians have used chemical weapons in the past. indeed, this week, white house press secretary jen psaki had
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noted that the russians had claimed the west might use them as a potential quote, false flag, meaning they would blame the west for their own use of chemical weapons. president biden has been very clear that there will be a severe consequence, if the west, if the russians used chemical weapons, and if the west would respond. so he has delivered a clear message. and again, president biden delivered a message about the consequences to russia's economy. putin did not believe it then, but the fact that his economy has suffered consequences, shows that the united states and the west would deliver on serious consequences if the russians engage in things that they have been warned against. so, the hope is that president biden sends a clear message that there will be severe consequences, which will have an impact on the calculus of the russians, and that pulling
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out there test to potentially blame their use on the west will prevent them from going down that road. >> miss sovsun, you have been active on social media calling for a no fly zone over ukraine. since the white house has ruled that out, is there anything out the west can do to help? >> well, i think the west she stopped being in denial of the level of threats we are dealing with. because the denial is exactly what it feels like, everyone in the west is behaving like. because, the west wants to think this is a war of russia against ukraine. but this is a war of russia against the hall of the civilized west. and, they have already started to talk in russian propaganda, though the next country after ukraine will be poland and lithuania. they are openly discussing this on russian television. i am sorry, but i can't understand why the west cannot respond right now. covering our sky would help us so much to keep them back to the russian territory.
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that is the only thing that they can do this, can gain superiority. because they can't fight on the ground, they are losing to the ukrainian army on the ground. i am just asking everybody listening to this, please understand this is a real threat to all of you. not just to us here, with our houses, our children being attacked from the air. we are asking for a no-fly zone it to be established. we can work that out ourselves, as long as we have the jets and the air defense systems. we can operate them ourselves. our pilots are ready, our armies are ready to operate them. but we need to have them. those 35 people who died today could have been saved if we had some sort of no-fly zone established over the ukrainian territory. we have been asking about this for so long. and if we have this established, i am sure we can keep them out of our territory. i am sure this can lead to much sooner victory. and we are just asking to get that done. i am sorry, but hearing that
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chemical weapon use would be a red flag? to me, that sounds like there is a number of people we expect to die until we actually intervene. and i don't like the idea of putting the price on human life, basically that's what we are hearing right now. as long as it's 35 people, it is okay. but over 500, now we can intervene? i am sorry, that is not how the west should act. i am sure about that. once again, i'm asking everybody to reconsider, to accept this as a real threat to the western world overall, and please help us save the west and ukraine from this hitler of our time. >> a disturbing premise there, inna and andrew. thank you both for your input this morning. we'll, coming up, building a war crimes case against vladimir putin. will u.s. congressmen leading the charge on hospital hill. and later this hour, this small valuable size of hope beneath the cities under attack. what life is like in ukrainian bomb shelters.
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anywhere, it threatens us all. and the ocean that separates us will not leave us untouched by this aggression. >> russia's invasion of ukraine took center stage at the dnc winter meeting in washington. vice president kamala harris comments you just saw there, came after she came back from a trip to europe, which included stops in poland and romania. now, the biden administration is set to ramp up support to ukraine as russian troops continue to inch closer towards major cities. now, with a closer look, they're emerging julian dollars in additional aid. how is that expected to be used to support ukraine? >> good morning stephen. that is right. secretary of state, anthony blinken announced this additional aid last night and
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for security assistance for ukraine, it will go towards and i thank javelin missiles, and the aircraft similar missiles as well. something that ukraine already has, but it will supply them with more. now, this brings the total security assistance the u.s. has provided to about 1.2 billion dollars and it also comes as congress last week approved 13.6 billion dollars, in not only defense assistance for ukraine, but also humanitarian and economic security aid for that country. but something the ukrainians really want that the administration is unwilling to do at this point is implement that no-fly zone. also, help with the transfer of these russian airplanes from poland to ukraine. those are the planes that the ukrainians know how to fly. in the meantime, they are providing more and more support. the ukrainians are asking for these other things as well. but the biden administration say they are doing as much as
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they can at the moment, including imposing war sanctions on the russians on friday, including some of putin 's top oligarchs. also, starting the process of removing russia's most favored trade nation status. so these are some of the tools in the tool box that the biden administration continues to roll out, stephen. >> a lot of pleased that no-fly zone which is something we heard this morning. and ali, walk us through what's happening on capitol hill. we know about the trade status, the effort to revoke russia's trade status. what is going on with that? >> well, stephen, early last because our president biden announce, as we are awfully or that ban on russia's oil imports after growing calls for lawmakers here on capitol hill. and following in that pattern, we saw him on friday announced that with european allies and g7 nations, that the u.s. would cut off, as leigh anne mentioned, russia's favored trading status with the united states.
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and biden actually needs congress's approval to get this done. the fact that there's already been calls from both sides of the aisle on capitol hill to get this done, it is a print -- pretty promising start. the house was scheduled to vote and already drafted a piece of legislation to do exactly this early last week. but at the presidents request, they held off on this vote. president biden said he needed a bit more time to get all of the allies on board, all on the same page before he got the real swing on this. and now, president biden will have to wait and see how long it will take on capitol hill to get this done. we know that it has to go to the house first. we heard speaker pelosi say on friday, after this announcement, she hopes for a strong bipartisan vote. she said she could expect a vote on the house floor as early as this week. and because, as i said, this has already been drafted, there is a pretty promising outlook for it. then of course, it heads to the senate. we hear the same from senators here on capitol hill, that there is widespread bipartisan support for it.
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so, really just a show of unity here on congress. we have seen so much partisan mudslinging, so often on capitol hill. it seems the situation in ukraine has really united people here. >> certainly, bipartisan support we have not seen in a long time, allie and leigh anne thank you both. we sides from the sanctions against russia, there are many questions about what else can be done to hold vladimir putin accountable for the invasion of ukraine. now, joining me is new york democratic congressman adriana as fiat, who aimed at doing just that. congressman, thank you for joining us this morning. we have seen so many disturbing images of russian forces striking civilian targets, including that maternity hospital in mariupol, firing all of those humanitarian corridors, of people trying to get out of the country. do you think these are war crimes? >> absolutely. there is no question that the putin war machine has targeted civilian sites. they have targeted nuclear power plants that could put
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really not just the ukraine, but the entire continent, the european confident in peril, in jeopardy. so clearly, these are war crimes. we do not have the complete details yet, but i'm sure they will be trickling out of ukraine. and putin should be held accountable for this. he introduced a house resolution nine 60 which calls for him to be held accountable for any and all or crimes committed, during this incursion. >> well, u.s. ambassador to the un later thomas-greenfield is the first senior official, accusing moscow of war crimes. there's been pushback since administration officials the worst crimes case could and any possible diplomatic ways out of this crisis. what is your response to that? >> i don't believe so. it is clear to the rest of the world that these atrocities are being committed. it could lead to more atrocities, if you don't call
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them out. he's in circling kyiv, the major cities. and perhaps in an unprecedented fashion we've seen what they did in syria, in chechnya. this is the mode of operandi -- >> modus operandi's. we are really concerned, genocide could occur over there in the ukraine -- ukraine. if we don't call these war crimes, in a timely matter, it will lead putin to continue forward and commit greater atrocities. >> former president trump was back on stage at a rally in south carolina last night. he blasted the administration, and said putin would not have invaded ukraine under his watch. he said if the invasion continues, it will lead to world war iii. what do you think about the former president's comments? >> you know, you will hear a lot of monday morning quarterbacking, not just from the former president, but from other members, from the other
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side -- the fact of the matter is that we have a strong bipartisan support in congress. and like we have seen perhaps, in the last 5 to 6 years. not everyone seems to be really responding to this aggressive action against democracy in the world. so trump is, he is so out of contact with the rest of the country. maybe even his own party. when you see the leadership of his party, and the rank and file members of his party the supportive of many of the measures that president biden has put forward regarding ukraine. >> we just watch that. we've seen a lot of bipartisan support in congress. meanwhile, you have called for the biden administration to provide temporary protected status for ukrainians, and special student relief for ukrainians to dance. how are those measures working? have you seen any progress on them? >> yes. in fact, i sent a letter to the
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white house, signed by 50 of my colleagues, asking for tps benefits for over 100,000 citizens in ukraine, live in the united states, and over 2000 students that are currently in some university across our country. that has been extended through a significant period of time. we will provide them the security they need, during these difficult times back in their homeland. so this is the least we could do back at home to provide ukrainians and ukrainian americans the kind of security and comfort they need to have while the country is going through this unprecedented time. >> truly appreciate that help. congressman adriano espaillat, thank you so much for your time this morning. meanwhile, tv news under kremlin control, described like something coming from a parallel universe. disinformation running rampant. we are taking a look at what the russian people are being told about this invasion on state tv. that is coming up, after the
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in the early stages of the invasion, some observers believe that an uprising by the russian people could have been one of the few things that would sway vladimir putin. we saw scenes across russia showing hundreds of people gathering to protest the invasion. according to a group that tracks arrests that these demonstrations, nearly 14,000 russians have been arrested at protests since this all started. but, we're not seeing much of these images anymore. that is thanks, in large, part to putin's crackdown on both independent journalism and on access to social media. now, russians can basically only watch what the kremlin wants them to see. which is putin's version of the war. if you're wondering what that looks like, -- staff writer at the atlantic watch russian state tv to find out. she writes, quote, in russia's version of the war, russians are liberators, ukrainians are
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nazis and the west are full of hypocrites. to turn on russian tv news is to enter a parallel universe, one where even the word war is forbidden. she joins me live this morning. from reading your article, it sounds like russian state tv is basically telling people that they all aggressively agree with putin and that he is doing the right thing. what else did you notice about it? >> yeah. it's really the exact opposite of the actual news that we are getting here in the u.s.. there's a lot of talk of ukraine being liberated from nazis, by the russians. pretty much any of the bombings or the shelling that you see on american news, all of that is attributed to ukrainians. there's also a lot of -- they spend a lot of time featuring the donbas region, and how russians have suffered there, and also how russians are suffering under the unfairness and the sanctions of the west. >> there are russian state
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polls that say most people there supported this war. but, of course, those are staples, not exactly trustworthy. how does this control of information in russia affect how citizens feel about what's going on in ukraine? >> yeah, it's really kind of awful. it's tearing families apart. because the people who rely on tv news really only have this one option, they only have state, tv news as their source of information. so, they kind of believe that putin is the good guy, that this is only a special operation and there aren't a lot of casualties. and so, you have younger people who are, kind of, trying to convince their older parents that this is actually not reality what our. seeing people in ukraine trying to convince the russian families that what they're seeing isn't true. >> an important reminder about how interconnected those
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countries are. so many people there know one another. let's talk about media coverage here in the u.s., about the war. last week, fox news host tucker carlson had thoughts about the moment in the news conference with the polish president, where vice president kamala harris seemed to laugh at the awkward moment where the two didn't know who should speak first. let's watch. >> more than 1 million people fleeing, in the wake of an invasion that you, kamala harris, incited. certainly failed to defuse, made much more likely with your recklessness. and then you laugh about it. that's who she is. >> well, we should point out, tucker didn't actually offer any evidence of have ice president harris incited that war. by all accounts, the administration was trying to prevented and warning about beforehand. but those comments are just affecting people here in the u.s., a reporter posted a screenshot of tucker's clips being used on russian state television. what is your response, olga, to all of this happening? using american house for
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russian state tv? >> yeah, it's funny, i was actually just watching russian tv last night. they played a different clip of tucker who was, sort of, saying that the sanctions were, the bans on russian vodka and such, that it would primarily affect the middle class. so, russian state tv was playing his clip and saying, look, even americans agree that these sanctions are bad. anytime they can find an american expert, or an american military guy, who has appeared anywhere on america news, they will play that on the russian shows and be like, look, we're on the right side of history here. so, it's definitely fodder for their own narrative. >> and olga, in your article you are writing about talk shows and how people seem to be just agreeing with one another. of course, in america, talk shows need that disagreement for them to work. how is that happening on russian tv? everyone is just, sort of, nodding their heads yes? >> yeah, it's kind of funny
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because they can't actually stray from the official narrative. they can't report, kind of, independently. so, they all have to agree with each other, and agree with the official kremlin. line but you do need that controversy, that conflict, to make it work. i found that they just started escalating and kind of yelling at each other, but what they're actually saying, they're agreeing with each other. they're all saying that america's bad and russia is good, but just at different levels of volume. >> another sign of the alternative reality, the parallel universe you mentioned earlier. thank you so much, olga khazan, for that report. meanwhile, next. desperate ukrainians are looking for shelter and they're finding creative ways to stay safe. we go underneath some of the hard-hit cities and show you what life is like in a makeshift bomb shelter. it's dynamic weight that adjusts for you in real time for a more efficient workout. and you can only experience it...
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back a look now at other top stories we're following. this, morning still no arrest in the stabbings of two employees at the new york museum of modern art. officers say the suspect is a 60 year old, former member, who is membership had been revoked due to previous incidents. police say he jumped over the reception desk and attacked the two employees there, when they would not let him in yesterday afternoon. that scary scene sent visitors rushing out of the museum. those two employees are expected to be okay, the museum and stores are closed today. a pennsylvania highway is open
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this morning after a massive 70 car pileup, near harrisburg. heavy snow and 40 mile per hour wind gusts were hammering that area, crash happened. ten people were, heard no deaths have been reported. overseas, in iraq, over a dozen missiles hit an area near a u.s. consulate. there are conflicting accounts this morning about what happened. u.s. officials say there is no indication that the consulate was an intentional target, but an iraqi official says it was a targeted attack by iran. the building was hit by several missiles. though no injuries were reported, they're the building is currently occupied. russia's invasion is forcing thousands of ukrainians to seek shelter, virtually, anywhere they can. msnbc's matt bradley went underground to give us a firsthand look at how ukrainians are living, underneath their cities. >> under constant shelling from above, life in ukraine has moved down below. for two weeks, this family in
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kyiv made this their new home. we gave them a hug, a case, we say it will come to an end soon, she says. we are staying nearby our house, we're not leaving the city. they sleep on mats, their food isn't jars, they're water in bottles. for some, this is the only life they've ever known. these babies were born in a shelter in the southern city of kherson. -- life underground. even a bit of drama. actors in the city of -- perform a play about war, as a real one rages above. often, the bomb shelters are improvised. like here in kharkiv, ukraine's second largest city. we were here right when the bomb started falling. yesterday, this was a subway station but, today, the trains have stopped and people have flooded down here seeking refuge and safety. they are terrified, and they don't know what's next. when veronica woke up to the
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send of bombs, he didn't know where to go. she heard about the metro from her friends on instagram. are you gonna spend the night down here in the subway? >> yeah. i have a child, 1.7 years old. and a sister, 3.5 years old. we just don't feel safe, you know, risking with our kids trying to live anywhere. so, for now, where here. >> for hanukkah has left ukraine. she told us, she's and berlin. the trains here don't run anymore, but you can still get around town underground. dark days, but ukrainians hope, there will soon be a light at the end of the tunnel. matt bradley, msnbc news, ukraine. >> wow, a stunning view of life underneath their cities. thank you matt, for that report. targeted by human traffickers, the new warnings for millions of women and children in particular who are trying to escape these unfamiliar, to these unfamiliar countries, from the war zone. we'll have more on that, after
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as the russian assault on ukraine enters a third, week the humanitarian situation on the ground is becoming more dire by the day. now, there are new concerns this morning. the millions of women and children escaping ukraine could fall victim to human traffickers. german police are warning ukrainians arriving there to not accept rides from men who are alone, and who claimed to be volunteers. so, far the un says, almost 2.6 million refugees have escaped ukraine since russia's assault began. that number is expected to eventually be 4 million. we are joined now by unicef sports person joe english, who just arrived in lviv, ukraine. after spending time in poland. joe, the washington post is reporting that they may not be able to take any more refugees from ukraine. what did you see there in poland, is that situation becoming unmanageable? >> hi steven, thanks for having
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me. yeah, honestly, i've spent the last five days on the border between ukraine and poland. and the sheer number of families, women, children, who are coming across is staggering. it's been a steady flow every day. some of them are coming with a plan of where they want to go next, it may be germany, it may be france. for many of them, they don't have a clear idea. and, so the towns nearby, also the large cities in poland, an obvious place for them to be able to convalesce. if there isn't a level of support that's going to be provided to these families, especially the most vulnerable children and families, then we are very quickly going to get to the point where there is going to be a crisis. whenever you have these kinds of loads of people, large numbers of people, especially women and children, the protection risks for them are sky-high. absolutely catastrophic. >> joe, there are increasing concerns, as we are mentioning, about human trafficking for the refugees there.
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the director of operations at the human trafficking foundation telling the ap, quote, when you suddenly got a huge cohort of really vulnerable people who need money and assistance immediately, it's sort of a breeding ground for exploitative situations and sexual exploitation. are you concerned about human trafficking, related to this crisis? and is there anything unicef can try to do to help make sure this doesn't happen? >> it honestly is one of our top concerns. we have a huge number of vulnerable women, vulnerable children who are coming with a little idea of where they're going next. one of the practical things that unicef is doing, along with -- and local authorities and the countries where we're working, around ukraine, it's a set up blue dot centers. these are safe spaces, where parents and children can come. the kids can play, color, watch cartoons, the parents can take a load off their feet. get a little bit of red rest amidst the chaos. we also have child protection
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specialist and counselors on hand, to identify vulnerable children, children who maybe unaccompanied or separated from their families. and then make sure that they are, then, referred to the services that exist within the host country. child protection services, wider social services. so that we can make sure that we are really breaking down this risk of people being dependent on the kindness of strangers, when we don't know how kind those strangers maybe. >> joe, it's just heartbreaking. as you're speaking, we're seeing images of children who are fleeing ukraine. they are leaving their only homes, their only lives that many of them have ever known. hearing about human trafficking, as well, just another risk to children. obviously, unicef focused on helping children deal with all of these issues. what else are these children facing? >> it is a children's crisis. we know that, both inside the country, where more than 40 children have now been killed and 50 injured. it's really worth noting that these numbers are just the numbers that the un has been able to verify, the true number
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could be far higher. we've seen schools bombed, we've seen hospitals bombed, we've seen homes bombed. and so, children are going through all of that trauma and then, even for the ones who reach safety, it's a sense of safety but then, the idea that they are suddenly going to be able to deal with this, they need specialized care. specialized attention. it's going to take a lot of work, it's going to take a lot of funding. and international solidarity. to make sure that these children are able to take a moment and start rebuilding their lives, hopefully start moving towards a brighter future. >> a lot of help needed. joe english, from unicef, thanks so much for your time this morning. still to come, the ripple effects of the war in ukraine. why extra fees are popping up on, possibly, your bills on the pump and more. how long you can expect this all to last. we will be back. we will be back. elp. ♪ oh, oh, oh, ozempic®! ♪ ♪ oh, oh, oh ♪
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>> it's crazy out here. it's really crazy, it's rising overnight. >> do the steep spikes, uber announcing a surcharge to fairs and deliveries. riders will pay 45 to 55 cents more per trip. and, for deliveries, 45 to 45 cents. >> it's a good move, but i'm not sure if it's enough. >> the increase will last at least two months. >> a lot of ride share drivers are already struggling to make, basically, a minimum wage. >> to ease the burden for all behind the wheel, a growing number of governors want to suspend state taxes on fuel. saying that they'll save drivers up to 60 cents a gallon. state and federal taxes, combined with refinery distribution costs, and the price of crude oil, add up to the price you pay at the pump. the majority of americas gassed asians barely break even when prices soar. >> destination owners actually hate high gas prices, as much as we do. >> they are hoping customers will splurge on snacks and drinks at their convenience stores instead.
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but, recent studies show that americans are responded by driving less. some, already with reduced travel due to pandemic work from home setups. >> so, how much higher can these prices go? >> most experts i've spoken to say that we should expect this to go on for at least several months. there is an old adage, in the industry, that gas prices rise like a rocket and fall like a feather. >> catie beck, nbc news. >> that's going to do it for us this morning. thanks for watching msnbc reports, i'm stephen romo. velshi starts right now. good morning, i'm ali velshi. it is sunday, march 13th. it is day 18 of russia's war against ukraine. it is 8 am eastern, 1 pm here in the han, hungry. on the border with ukraine,
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where i've been reporting this weekend. though it feels like there are no weekends, let out for the more than -- refugees who have fled here to hungary, out of the nearly 2.7 million refugees in total. when you are watching now is more arrivals, another train has just come in from ukraine, from the town of chop just over the border. where they go to border formalities, and they are received by volunteers. they are coming off the trains very, slowly because they are now being agreed that the trained by police who are helping them get off the train, and are determining what help they need. they then come across here, you'll slowly see people coming across. everybody who comes across is greeted by a volunteer in a red vest or a green vest or an orange vest. these are typically church groups that are greeting these people, they've got food, they help them with their bags, they help them with their children. they've got medication, they've got water and then they are taken inside the train station, if they need to go there, to determine what their next step
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