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if city loses, of course a watchful nation plays they do, city and liverpool tied at the top of the table. >> a watchful nation hopes city loses? are we ever going to talk again, joe? my husband will be furious. i know it's happening because tom's taking half a day off to watch. we hope city wins. that's where my loyalty lies. >> that does it for us this morning. chris jansing picks up the coverage right now. >> i'm chris jansing. live at msnbc headquarters in new york. we are tracking dangerous escalations from russia on multiple fronts. this is 15 miles away from the border with poland. they show the aftermath of a military base targeted by dozens of russian cruise missiles. at least 35 people were killed, 134 wounded.
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the base had been used to train ukrainian soldiers often with the help of u.s. or other nato countries. in its statement, russian claimed the air strikes were targeting, quote, foreign mercenaries. president zelenskyy, who met with wounded soldiers on sunday, said overnight that the attack should serve as a warning to the west that, quote, if you do not close our sky, it is only a matter of time before russian missiles fall on your territory, nato territory, on the homes of citizens of nato countries. this is happening one day after russia warned the west that arms convoys delivering more weapons to ukraine would be seen as legitimate targets. and then there's this -- new reports from ukrainian forces claiming that russia has used white phosphorous bombs on a village in the east, a type of chemical that burns the skin and ignites fires. if true, it could test the red line that national security adviser jake sullivan talked about just yesterday on "meet
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the press". >> i'm not going to in public lay out the specifics of the severe consequences russia would face if they used chemical or biological weapons in ukraine. in the united states in coordination with our allies, is prepared to impose severe consequences. >> all this as russia continues to pound cities across ukraine, turning them into wastelands. this is what's left of a small city in the eastern separatist region that was once home to 20,000 people. the local governor says that city no longer exists. in mariupol, aid convoys have been stuck outside the city for days while inside bombs and missiles are taking the city apart piece by piece. more than 2,100 people have died including the pregnant woman carried from a maternity hospital destroyed by russian forces. the associated press said when she realized she was losing her
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baby, she told medics, kill me now. both the mother and baby did, indeed, die of their injuries. for hundreds of thousands of people still inside mariupol, the situation without food, water, heat, medicine grows more dire by the day. a top red cross official calling it nothing short of a nightmare. president zelenskyy said overnight that a convoy carrying 100 tons of relief supplies is the latest to fail, hindered by fierce fighting and roads planted with land mines. as we speak, ukrainian and russian officials have begun a fourth round of talks. getting help to places like mariupol and other cities under siege is the top priority. the suburbs of kyiv have been bombarded all weekend as russia's advance to the outskirts and capital and people try to flee. only sunday, we learned of journalist brent renaud was shot, the first american known to have died in the war.
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his colleague describing the deadly attack. >> it was across a check point and they started shooting at us so the driver turned around and kept shooting, two of us, my friend, renaud, and he's been shot and left behind. >> inside the city, the bombing is getting worse. a nine-story apartment building shelled overnight. at least two people were killed. hundreds of thousands of people, though, do remain holed up in kyiv bracing for a fight. similar story in odesa, where the records are making camouflage nets and molotov cocktails as they prepare to defend their city. many have fled the country, 2.7 million according to the latest count, but they still worry about the people and the places they've left behind. .
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>> i want to bring in nbc's ali, barry mccaffrey, and hagar chemali. she worked with the nsc and the treasury department. thank you all for being here. ali, let's start in lviv. about an hour from where this attack happened on that military base, actually between you and the polish border. tell us what the latest is on the ground. >> reporter: hi, chris. we were in between live shots yesterday morning, and just before the crack of dawn we heard a boom, weren't sure what it was. it is followed by a string of other booms and we realized that there's some sort of an attack
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taking place. we aren't sure where. several hours later it became clear that the russians had launched about 30 missiles into that military base at the very west of the country, only about ten miles from polish border. the ukrainian authorities said they had intercepted most of the missiles that had targeted that base. but the ones that did get through did significant damage. they killed 30 people. they injured another 134 people. and it's a very significant place. as we mentioned, it's very close to poland. that's nato territory. nato instructors and u.s. instructors had trained ukrainian forces there in the past, although there were no nato or u.s. forces there at the time. it's a placed that was used for evacuationings at the beginning of the war, and it's place where ukrainian conscripts go to get training and from there go to the front line. i can also tell you, chris, that attack kind of surprised people here. maybe they were expecting something to come to the west,
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but not this soon, and especially a place like lviv, a hub for so many displaced people in ukraine. this is the last safe zone for many of those people. i had a chance to go out yesterday and talk to a lot of people in lviv and they said if lviv gets hit, they don't really have anywhere else to go. they're down to their pennies, relying on friends and families to put them up, and if this place was to be bombed, they wouldn't know what to do. walking around the streets in lviv, chris, it's sad. i spoke to about a dozen people all around them. none were from lviv. they all come from the east. amongst them were two young girls, two sisters. one was 20 years old, the other one was only 13. their parents had put them on a train from the central city of dnipro as soon as that had gotten bombed, sent to lviv with what little money they had just to get them out of the bombing.
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ip asked them what's your next move. they said they'll try and get themselves to poland, maybe try and find some work to survive somehow. you wonder what's the fate of a 13-year-old girl with her 20-year-old sister, leaving her parents behind and taking a step into the unknown. this is a city sh roulded in uncertainty and some fear that the fighting may come here. for now. it's relatively safe, but as we see, the russian bombing has expanded quite greatly to where we are right now, chris. >> of course that story of the 20- and 13-year-old is hardly the only one of its kind. the tragedy continues to mount, hagar. president zelenskyy says it's only a matter of time before russian bombs hit nato countries. do you see this attack in the west as a step in that direction? >> it's hard for me to speculate as to whether that will happen, but i think the message to president putin of how we would react should he go after other
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non-nato countries is clear, that we wouldn't militarily intervene. you saw it when vice president harris last week went to do her press conference this poland. she continued to reiterate at a time when we were at a height with this war with ukraine, she continued to reiterate that we would defend every inch of nato territory and didn't go far into whether we would do anything with ukraine, didn't go into the question of what would happen if another non-nato country were to be invaded or attacked by russia. i think that's the message that president putin is listening to. while i don't want to be alarmist, as you know, i have a lot of experience handling the beginning of the syria crisis, with nsc for the first two years of it, and i only see this going south. putin will not stop at anything until the last man standing in ukraine, and there's something that the united states and europe and nato have to understand when they communicate
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that everything is reactive. to putin, that is a carte blanche. reactive doesn't work. if we say, as vul san said, if president putin did xyz, we would consider certain military steps or serious consequences, it's not how to deal with an adversary of this kind. >> general, do you see this as putin is going to just keep pushing the envelope until the west, until the u.s., nato do something even more to stop him? >> well, clearly we're at a point where putin has moved to his primary military target, terrorizing the civilian population. he understands he must seize kyiv as a political headquarters of ukraine. he's not going to be able to do it street-to-street fighting, so kyiv is likely to become the target also of bombardment. and i think nato has reached the
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limits of our ability to influence events inside the country. watching this horrific scenario play out over the coming 90 days, i don't believe putin is stupid enough, nor does he have the military forces to continue by attacking nato territory, not at this time. not even the baltics, never mind poland, romania, the west, which clearly in every sense overmatches russia. but we're in a position of great desperation with very few tools left to wield. >> hagar, i want to ask you about these reports that russia has used some chemical weapons. we haven't heard from the administration about that yet. but i want to play for you what lindsey graham had to say about it just a short time ago. >> i want to open up the new front. i want to go hard on military assistance for ukraine b.
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if there's a use of chemical weapons, that's time for a no-fly zone. >> you know the impact of chemical weapons because of the time you spent in syria. is this escalation that's giving the message to the u.s. it's time for a no-fly zone? if there's chemical weapons entered into this conversation, into this equation, where does the u.s. and nato go? >> well, first, i would hope that the u.s. government is totally prepared that the likelihood he uses chemical weapons is very likely. when president assad used chemical weapons, most u.s. government officials on the inside didn't think it was a possibility. although the experts said otherwise. the problem with the messaging i saw from senator graham is, again, very reactive. a no-fly zone is not an offensive measure, first of all. it is an effort to create a safe space inside territory that is
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in conflict so there's a place for civilians to go that is safe, a people for displaced people and so on. and while i understand the merits of a no-fly zone, it's -- to me, it's a weird response to a chemical weapons attack. if you have a war criminal pursuing something so horrific and heinous, just say, what we're going to do is carve out an area of ukraine and make sure that people can go there safely, it doesn't exactly -- to putin's ears it's not a punitive measure in any way, shape, or form. i remember being on the other side handling syria, the debates around the no-fly zones, which never materialized, took forever. forever. and time is not on our side on this because putin, like i said, will not stop at anything. he is not going anywhere. so he's not going to fall. i think representative spaerz said something on msnbc recently that we're going against all tradition, that we have to give putin to stem down and go home
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and stop this because our tolerance for these atrocities is going to -- is going to be very low, number one. number two, as the general mentioned, it will only get worse in the next 90 days. we have to give him something to stop and we have to figure it out together with europe, nato, and ukraine. >> is that the answer here, general? i mean, look, we have the possibility of chemical weapons. you have strikes coming a day after moscow warned it would consider arms delivery to ukraine as legitimate targets. i wonder you would know what the attacks in the west do to our ability to keep arming the ukrainian military. what do we do now? >> well, who knows? you know, i would probably disagree that confronting a no-fly zone wouldn't be an offensive action. we have to give nato airpower, brits, french, u.s., the authority to go after the russian air force over ukraine
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and to strike their air defense systems on the ground, which would include the s-400 systems inside russia. there's no halfway measures here. we did that within 30 days, we would pound the russians into absolute tragic situation. we'd probably end up going after their ground developments. it would be an opening step to war with russia. i don't think putin is capable of taking on nato. so it's a political option. it's there for biden and nato leadership to consider. they're not going to do it. by the way, i don't think the russians are going to use chemical ls. it would invite total war. i do not think we'd tolerate it. at that point, to stop chemical attacks on the civilian population, we'd have to go after his delivery systems, the cruise missile systems, airpower
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systems, some which are in bell -- belarus or russia. putin is waiting to see where the limits are. he hasn't had a pushback that bothers him yet. he'll cut off the flow of supplies to include humanitarian aid unless there's a clear way to do it by nato. i think probably what's being talked about at the pentagon now is how do we put a significant, conventional, war-fighting capability, 150,000 u.s. troops, back into germany and poland with the implication that now strategically we're back in europe, we're prepared to stay. >> general barry mccaffrey, hagar chemali, and ali arouzi, thanks to all of you. coming up, after russia asked china to help support their efforts in ukraine, what role could president xi play in this conflict? a former ambassador to china joins me next.
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and warsaw, poland, running out of room for ukrainian refugees. first, a moment of unity on sunday. lead opera singers gathering at the center of lviv to sing ukraine's national anthem just hours after russian missile ls hit a military training base nearby. it killed 35 people. that did not stop them from standing up to moscow with music. hey, bud. thanks for coming out to cheer me on. dad, i'm -- i'm always here. i'm always here for you, too. okay. go, dad. [ chuckles ] thanks. no, everyone's passing you in the race. oh. you got it, coach! switch to progressive, and you can save hundreds. you know, like the sign says.
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national security adviser jake sullivan meeting with china's foreign policy adviser in rome today. three u.s. officials confirming that the u.s. government has reason to believe that russia has asked china for military equipment and other support. this morning, the kremlin is denying that. the u.s. is also accusing china of spreading russian disinformation that could be used as a pretext for chemical or biological weapons attacks. all of this as russia looks to china for help to withstand the crippling economic sanctions from the west, something national security adviser jake sullivan has bluntly warned china to avoid. >> we are communicating directly, privately to beijing that there will absolutely be consequences for large-scale sanctions, evasion
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efforts or support to russia. we will not allow that to go forward and to have a lifeline for russia from these economic sanctions from any country anywhere in the world. >> david ignatius, associate editor of "the washington post" and former u.s. ambassador to china, gary locke. ambassador locke, this morning's "new york times" has an article about china seeing one winner emerging from the ukraine war and that is china by e merging as pillar of stability on the world stage. what do you think their goal is coming out of this? and when you look at that, then, how does the u.s. use that to get china to help us with russia? >> well, obviously, they're a winner because russia will be looking to china to sell a lot of their energy supplies and a lot of their agricultural output that is now basically -- cannot be sold to the west. so they hope to benefit a little
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bit economically because they are in great need of energy supplies. and russia now has an abundance since it cannot sell much of it to the west. but china's also in a predicament because they have up until a few weeks ago recognized the independence, the sovereignty of ukraine, and they've always taken a position that countries should not interfere in the affairs of other countries, should respect those boundboundaries. but china is also a very close ally with russia and, in fact, has been spreading that propaganda through the government-controlled media within china that the conflict in ukraine is really the fault of the west, america and the nato forces. >> david, your paper puts it this way -- quote, china, despite claiming neutrality has maintained a pro-chem lin lead and is opposed to sanctions, stating it will continue to trade with russia as usual. but questions remain on how far china's systems are able to
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cushion the blow of western sanctions and how far beijing is willing to go to help its economic partner. i mean, yeah, china has economic interests in russia, but they're small compared to the west. what kind of conversation do you think is going on right now in rome? >> if i had to guess, chris, i old say the ambassador is saying to his chinese counterpart, which side are you on? where do your interests lie? china is centrally linked to the global economy. the idea that china can stand separate, side with russia, they had sanctions embraced by essentially the entire advanced world, and still be part of that global economy easily, that's not going to work. you have to make a choice. the chinese i think have been waffling. i was in munich in early
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february where the chinese foreign minister said in effect, we're opposed to any violation of international borders, seemed to be saying china was against the invasion of ukraine, which hadn't happened yet, but he seemed to be staking out that mark. since then, the chinese have been hard to read. i think this is an attempt to drive china into taking some distance from russia. i think the message in part will be russia is going to fail in this effort. and if you side with russia, as russia's only key ally, you will join in that fail krur. >> as usual, ambassador, david gets to the key question that is here for china -- which side are you on? asking asked that, talk about the cost-benefit analysis here. does xi get more with siding with russia, siding with the u.s., or trying to play both sides? >> i think you'll see china trying to play both sides. they'll continue to stress the
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need to respect sovereign territories. they're also going to say this is the fault of the united states. they will try to say, well, we're willing to help bring the parties together and help seek a resolution and be a broker of peace. but we know that those efforts have not been working, and how can china think that it can really make a difference? and so, it will try to present that image of being a conciliatory entity, a player on the world stage without really doing anything. china has been working with russia over the last several years since the invasion of crimea by the russians to set up these independent financial transaction systems so that the countries can evade these sanctions. these workarounds are of very limited use, but i'm sure jake sullivan will be saying to china, don't try to use those systems to benefit russia because we will impose secondary
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sanctions on chinese entities. but can the west really impose severe sanctions on china? because if china is not allowed to use the international trading or financial system, that could also hurt american companies since so much of our trade and so much of what we use on an everyday basis comes from china. so how will u.s. companies pay for that? how will china receive those payments? and how can transactions go back and forth between american companies, american consumers, and chinese entities? >> one more, we're almost out of time, david, but it's clear this has reinvigorated nato. as russian attacks are closer to nato countries, it is not to china's advantage to further reinvigorate nato and further the resolve against anyone who would side with russia in any way? >> exactly.
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the message is you're not just standing against the united states, which you see as challenging your rise. you're standing against the united states and europe and almost everybody else. you're standing against japan, south korea, singapore, australia. you're standing against pretty much the entire advanced world, and be careful. that's the heart of the message. one more thing i want to say, russia's failures in ukraine show how hard it would be for china to take taiwan, and i think that's another message. >> david ignatius, ambassador gary locke, an entire on conversation on that should have that. lgbtq people more likely to face violence fleeing war zones and refugees from ukraine are facing discrimination in new countries with some of the harshest anti-gay laws. because your body is capable of amazing things.
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of what it's like for those who haven't fled ukraine. this 30-year-old decided to stay put to take care of her parents and she's been leaving daily voice mails for our reporters at msnbc offering a heart-wrenching view into a war zone. >> last night i heard aircraft so close that i was really scared. i had no time to go anywhere to bomb shelter. it was the most scary moment from the beginning of this war. i don't want to be a refugee. i didn't do anything bad. and when i read about each death, how they killed some ukrainians, you know, it's like losing part of me. because we're all one nation.
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we all stand together. >> our next guest also stayed in kyiv. joining us from the ground, a member of ukraine's parliament. thanks for coming back to talk to us. last time you joined us, you were joining in with civilians in the fight. i'm sure you also know people like larisa, relate to what she had to say. take us to what it's like on the ground right now. >> hello. thank you so much for having me. so today we had increasing shelling throughout the city. we had a bus destroyed and the war is getting very real in kyiv. before we had the shelling that were intercepted by our air force protection system. today, the amount of shelling was so intense they just didn't take everything down.
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so people died, and right now it's about four people died in the building crash after the rocket hit it, and nobody died at this rocket that hit the bus. so we are getting ready for a siege. we are working with the civilians, with the resistance teams to make sure that we are all ready for a siege, because we know that this is putin's plan. and we know that this is what russian forces are preparing for. we are getting more and more water, supplies, food, everything. we are training with our resistance teams to make sure that we are able to protect ourselves. however, there is no way to protect yourself from the missiles coming from the air. and this is the most desperate part. you can fight with your klatch anykov, you can be the best
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fighter, be brave, get many people to support you. you can all fight as hell, but there will be no way for you to protect the ones you love because it just comes from the air. this is why we have been constantly asking for additional weaponry and for the jets, for anything that would help us to protect ourselves from the russian air force. this is why we are still waiting for nato to make the decisions to get us either jets or additional systems so we can survive it, we can win this war. what is happening right now is absolutely terrifying and absolutely inexplicably scary. we are trying to ignore it is coming to our homes but it is coming to our homes. it is so close, a ten-minute drive from where i am right now. what happened today, shelling,
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ten-minute drive from here. >> i can't even imagine. and now we're seeing reports of ukrainians who fled returning to ukraine, returning to fight. officials say that number is now more than 200,000. would you encourage that people who have found safety in poland or other countries coming back? and are you surprised that so many, 200,000, have said i'm going to leave my family, the other people who have gotten here safely behind and come back? >> i'm not surprised. i knew that this was the plan for many people. today their families -- to take their young kids to the safety and then to come back and to fulfill our duty to our motherland and fulfill on what we have to do because this is ours. we don't have any other country. we don't have any other homes. we don't have any other cities. this is where we belong. this is what we are protecting. this is where we live. and russians are coming and
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destroying this, but even if they destroy our cities, it's still our cities and we still don't have any other country, any other place to be. so this is why we need to protect what is ours, and this is why we are protecting what is ours. for everybody who can hold up a weapon, we need to hold this weapon. bum elts don't care which hands are sending them. russian soldiers probably don't care who is killing them. and this is what we need to do to make sure that we push back, the crazy force that came in to destroy us, that denies us the reason and ability to exist. and this is why we need to stand up. and i'm not surprised that 200,000 people returned back. i think there will be more who are returning. today i was at a camp here in kyiv, the refugee camp, and people are saying we just get our children to safety and we'll
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be coming back and then saying you are 75 years old, how are you coming back? she's telling me, shush, i'm coming back because this is my home. >> the determination, the bravery, the love of country displayed by the ukrainian people continues to just inspire inspiration here to the extent that the american people can send it in thoughts, all of our support for you. thank you so much, kira. we hope to talk to you soon. >> thank you. glory to ukraine. the mayor of warsaw, poland, pleading for international help there. he is struggling to find places for people who escaped ukraine.
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volunteering at reception centers, but the mayor says it's not sustainable. train stations are inundated with refugees who have to sleep on the floor. so more e far, more than 1.6 million of the 2.8 million people who have fled have thread into poland, ukraine a level 3 emergency. that's the highest level there is. at the same time, ireland reports it has now taken in 5,500 refugees, a relatively small number, but a potential sign of more doors opening in western europe for those fleeing ukraine. let's go live to nbc's kelly cobiella, in poland, near the ukraine border. kelly, many polish cities are overwhelmed. there are also growing fears that poland could be in russia's si sights. what are you hearing there on the ground? what can you tell us? >> yeah, chris, nerves are definitely rattled, especially in these towns close to the border with ukraine. we spent some time with an older
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couple in their 70s. they live in a very small town of about 500. their town has taken in 80 ukrainian refugees. and the wife was telling me, look, we're concerned, we're worried. she said, i think about a possible russian invasion every day. we think about the possibility of bombs falling close to the border and having to be evacuated. it is a very real fear among people, particularly in this part of the country, when it comes to this war. at the same time, they're seeing this massive influx of refugees. and as you said, volunteers are coming out by the tens of thousands, to help them. we've seen, i can't even count how many soldiers, volunteers, firefighters, paramedics, walking up and down this path behind me. sometimes putting kids in shopping carts, along with the luggage that these families have been carrying for hours, sometimes days, even longer, and pushing them up to the end of the line here, where they get on a bus and go off to find some
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shelter and some longer-term shelter. and people are doing whatever they can to get across the border. we spoke to one woman who came across with her daughter and her 85-year-old mother, and she told me that they walked the last 50 miles. take a listen. >> when we cross, my mother began to cry, because my mother needs help. all of these people, thank you very much. thank you. i'm sorry. >> and as you mentioned, a lot of these places are becoming overwhelmed. we've seen that happen over the past week, really, in these border areas, where really, they can only manage to have people stay overnight in shelters for a couple of days, before they try to move them on into bigger cities, because they just don't have the space. they need to make room for the next wave of refugees. and yes, the warsaw mayor has been asking now for several days, for the international community to get involved.
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he's talking about worldwide relocation programs. it's difficult, chris, because a lot of these people want to stay close to the border. they want to return home. >> yeah, i know we've had conversations about people coming to the u.s., coming to canada, you know, but again, it's one thing if you know people here. it's another thing if your ultimate goal is to go back to your country. kelly cobiella, thank you for your ongoing stellar reporting. thank you so much. also new this morning, "time" magazine is reporting that advocates in poland have started working to support lbgqt refugees coming in, with safe housing, transportation, and medical care, teaching them how to operate in this new social, political, and legal landscape. as human rights groups fear that lbgqt ukrainians fleeing to neighboring countries like poland, like hungry, could face discrimination. the european union has already condemned both countries for anti-gay laws. in poland, around 100 towns across the country have declared
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themselves to be lbgtq free zones. let me bring in erin morris, executive director of immigration quality. thank you for being with us. i understand you've actually been able to talk to some people in ukraine. what are they telling you? >> well, thank you for having me. you know, i think, like a lot of refugees currently contemplating whether or not to leave ukraine, it's a really difficult decision. and for queer people in particular, leaving can have a lot of danger involved. and so a woman i spoke to yesterday was really concerned that her partner, that they have no legal relationship with one another. so negotiating how to stay together, when the international refugee system really requires that legal relationship, is really complicated. she was also seriously concerned for a transgender individual, whose i.d. document did not match her gender identity. and negotiating that can be really risky. >> so how do you help those
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individual case? i mean, literally, tearing people apart, who have been together for maybe years or even decades. what can an organization like yours or some of the other advocacy organizations do, realistically, to help? >> well, all of what needs to be done with advocacy is done out of the immediate refugee camp on the border. as you mentioned, the sort of gay-free zones that were passed a bill on, almost all of those municipalities are on the eastern side of poland. and those, in fact, border ukraine. so moving people out of that immediate danger, either to western poland, preferably to western europe and/or to the united states is really ideal. and the biden administration has recently announced that, you know, that the u.s. will receive up to 125,000 refugees. and we're nowhere near that cap now. >> we have less than a minute, but i know this isn't just ukraine. this is a pattern i know you've
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seen before with lbgtq refugees fleeing african, central america. is there something in the bigger picture that the international community needs to be doing? >> well, i think that one of the biggest problems when a refugee moves to an even unsafer country, sometimes, is that if they are a queer person, they don't disclose that fact to the refugee offices. it's not safe. so things are inherently more unsafe for lgbtq people, so we must find a safer and more expeditious to relocate people. and maybe one thing is for those individuals to be designated as refugees in country, so if someone was looking to flee russia, they wouldn't have to go to another nation. they could just be relocated through the state department. aaron morris, thank you so much for your work. that's going to wrap up this hour. i'm chris jansing, but i'll be back for another hour of breaking news right after this quick break. breaking news right after this quick break. you'll love on way.
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good morning, once again. it is 10:00 a.m. eastern, 7:00 a.m. pacific. i'm chris jansing in for jose diaz-balart. right now, an alarming escalation of russian attacks in ukraine, with new shelling near the capital, just hours ago. and the closest air strikes so far to nato member poland. the casualties of war are growing. more than 1,600 civilians killed, including award-winning american filmmaker and journalist, brent renaud. he was killed outside of kyiv yesterday. and a
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