are on high alert. injuring 134 and killing 35 people in an air strike over the weekend. for the first time near the heart of ukraine's capital, striking an apartment building near kyiv city center full of ukrainian civilians. >> fortunately if you can describe anything as fortunate, the building was largely evacuated at the time, about half the people had already left but many people decided to stay behind. many people now have to find other places to live, some residents here who are just collecting whatever they can salvage from this building say they now are going to either live in shelters or with relatives in other parts of the city. >> today a kremlin spokesman is denying reports that russia may be seeking foreign assistance to topple the ukrainian resistance. the u.s. government has reason to believe russia has asked

china's leaders for military equipment and other support, more on that coming up. before heading to rome, national security adviser jake sullivan spoke to chuck todd on "meet the press." >> we made it clear to not just beijing but every country in the world, that if they think they can basically bail russia out, they can give russia a work around to the sanctions we imposed, they should have another thing coming because we will ensure that no one can compensate russia for these losses. >> president biden spoke again with france's president emmanuel macron one day after they spoke with putin, but reported he is not willing to backdown. this as a refugee crisis mounts with nearly 3 million ukrainians crossing into neighboring countries with no idea if they'll ever be able to return home. the war took the life of an award winning american

documentary film maker, 50-year-old brent renaud shot by russian troops just north of kyiv. richard engel joins us from kyiv. you saw the damage near the center of kyiv firsthand, richard. tell us about that attack and what's happening there in the capital. >> reporter: what many people here fear is that that attack was something of a bellwether, that the russians are going to be, if not pushing in physically deeper into the city, they're going to be carrying out more destructive attacks in the heart of kyiv. and it is what they've been doing in other cities, what they've been doing in mariupol, kharkiv, a destructive campaign to force people to leave, which puts pressure on the government, puts pressure on europe, on the west in general, and then trying to take territory after they've already scorched the earth. so many people have left the

city, many people are still leaving. other families are waiting it out a little bit longer to see if the russians do start pushing into kyiv, start cutting the power, start doing massive amounts of destruction, then i think another wave more final wave will leave this city. in mariupol, in the south, after days of being cutoff, some families are able to leave that city. which is a tremendous relief. the city had been cutoff from water, food, medicine, the red cross was sounding the alarm that families were starting to fight physically over food, but now some vehicles have been able to make it out of the area. but there's been a troubling development, andrea. if you look at the trends that are -- that seem to be emerging, russia is in many ways trying to make its occupation, particularly in the south, much

more permanent. russia has replaced already at least one mayor. they're also calling, according to radio announcements broadcast in the area, they're calling on people to turn in ukrainian passports so they can get russian passports instead and having told they have a week to do that. and some russian forces have begun to arrest protesters in areas under russian occupation. even though there are peace talks right now and presumably the peace talks would involve a negotiated settlement and withdrawal of russian troops in the places where russia has set up an occupation and authority, they are taking steps to make it more lasting, if not permanent. >> and richard, there had been some supplies that were outside, maybe 50 miles from mariupol, did any of those supplies get in? those people have been, as you know, without food, water, electricity. >> reporter: the humanitarian

corridor is working. so it could close, these humanitarian corridors across the country have been opening and closing with regularity and on any day there's between 10. >> 13 humanitarian corridors in operation. oftentimes they're closed down. but for the last several hours at least the humanitarian corridor from mariupol has been allowed to move with predominantly vehicles leaving the city, but some going in as well to collect people and bring in some supplies. so some very welcome relief to a city that has seen terrible hardship where they had to dig mass graves, had the maternity hospital destroyed, they are allowed, some of the more vulnerable people at least, are able to leave the city. >> thank you so much, richard engel, thank you so much for everything you're doing. joining us is former nato

supreme allied commander, admiral, first of all this morning you said everything needs to be on the table, including migs, back filling m-16s that were supposed to go to taiwan, a no fly zone? >> i think the images we're seeing from our very brave colleague, richard engel are remarkable if their tragic dimensions, and therefore, we need to continue to press to get weapons in the hands of ukrainians, move nato forces to the borders of nato to send a strong signal to putin, up the ante on these economic sanctions. i think over time that package will begin to change the calculus. here's what worries me. we're at a pivot point in this war. it began with a modern warfare blitzkrieg attempt by the

russians. where we are now is headed back to 15th century warfare, reducing cities to rubble. it's going to look like syria if he's allowed to continue. the tragedy will just grow and grow and grow. >> obviously, that creates the risk the president says of, quote, world war iii of nato engagement. how do you, as a former, you know, supreme allied commander, someone who ran the war in afghanistan, knows what the risks are going up against the russians in particular, how do you deal with that? >> i think we need to not think about this like an on and off switch as though our choices are we just do nothing or we ramp up everything. it's -- you dial it in, you increase the pressure on russia, and i think a couple of immediate things would be upping the ante on the anti-air warfare

side of this, more systems that can reach higher into the atmosphere and i think you need to continue to look at this idea of jets. i understand it's complicated. i think it would be a huge morale boost for the ukrainians, send a strong signal and i think we can do it in a way that doesn't provoke us into direct combat with russia. >> we train them because as i understand it, they were not really trained on mig 29s and then get them to poland not ram stein and the u.s. as the go between? >> i think all options ought to be on the table. when i saw jake sullivan, who i think is doing a terrific job in a very hard spot. when i saw him on "meet the press," i was on that show also, as you know, he specifically said we're not going to telegraph what we're going to do. we are going to take appropriate action in response to russian activities. and when you look at the level of terror that the russians are

spreading, this is not an army at work. this is a terrorist force increaseingly attacking women, children, maternity wards, destroying a nuclear power plant, reported moments ago another explosion near a nuclear power plant. mayors being hauled out of cities. that's what we're seeing from the ukraine from the russian armed forces these are war crimes. >> the defense department is reporting the attack on that military base was cruise missiles launched from russian air base. >> indeed, look for russia, because they're not having success in the ground fight against the ukrainians, who are defending their nation remarkably, and their spirit and fighting will have become the center of gravity in this fight. the russians, therefore, are

using long-range fires, cruise missiles, artillery and they're directing it almost indiscriminately. >> i was talking to a former military official who said, just look at the way they're doing this on the ground. no night vision goggles, no position, dumb bombs rather than precision weapons. it tells you how degraded their training is and equipment. >> indeed. i spent four years shall we say closely observing the russian military, and i watched them gradually improve, improve but over the last few years clearly they have gone over a negative edge in the sense that their logistics are terrible. they can't get food and fuel and heat forward to their troops. they have bad connectivity and command and control. and above all, their morale

seems very weak. these are conscripts, reservists, it's not the force that many of us thought russia was aiming for, and i think putin has miscalculated. >> the president drew a red line if there's a chemical weapons attack. what kind of response could he have to a chemical weapon attack? >> some of the things we talked about, putting in place a no fly zone, i wouldn't recommend it at this moment but increasing the measures to the ukrainians and on the economic side there's still additional sanctions packages, so called secondary sanctions on nations that would continue to deal with russia. so we still have cards to play here. >> and our white house team is reporting that the president is considering, according to staff over there, considering a trip to the border nato states, as well as perhaps brussels.

>> that would be warranted. one silver lining coming out of the sea of tragedy in front of us is the way the west, the nato alliance and japan and other democratic allies were standing together. that's a positive. >> admiral, it's great to talk to you, but in person is best yet. >> so much better. >> good to see you. and the center of the storm, russian attacks intensifying on mariupol. air-raid sirens sending people running for shelter and one woman hiding in a hallway is consoled by her father. is there any relief in sight for the people bearing the brunt of the russian results. up next, the former ambassador to ukraine, marie yovanovitch joins us. this is andrea mitchell reports on msnbc. us this is andrea mitchell reports on msnbc for romance. your home for big savings.

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39 countries, including the uk have already reported that russia should be investigated -- well, russia should be reported to the international criminal court for war crimes for attacks targeting civilians, not even including the killing this weekend of brent renaud and now the death of another victim from the attack on the maternity hospital in mariupol. the pregnant woman carried out on a stretcher after the bombing and her unborn baby have now died. an image that has come to

demonstrate the horror of the war. joining me now someone with deep knowledge of russia and ukraine, marie yovanovitch. ambassador, it's a real privilege to talk to you. thank you for being with us. >> thank you. >> i want to ask you about your book, which is really wonderful, really catalogs what it's like to be a foreign service officer and the joy of being a u.s. diplomat. first i want to ask you about the attacks on the civilians in ukraine which are horrifying. we learned the pregnant woman has now died and her unborn child, of course. what is your reaction to russia attacking civilians in the way they have? >> it's horrifying. it's -- this is just horrifying. i think what you said earlier is right, i used to say that putin

is a bully and he only understands strength and now i say he's a war criminal and he needs to be held to account as well as the people implementing his orders. >> explain the diplomatic evidence of the u.s. government, almost standing alone among western governments in not saying these are war crimes, saying they need to be investigated. i understand that we're not members of the icc, the international criminal court, we don't recognize it, there are other venues, other ways. but how can you look at these attacks and not call them war crimes? >> i really don't know. as you are aware, i retired so i no longer speak for the u.s. government. >> i know. >> but there are processes for all of these things and so perhaps that is the hesitation that we have not gone through a process of investigation and so forth. but i think for the average person, such as myself, it is pretty clear that the indiscriminate killing that is going on in ukraine right now

targeting everybody is a war crime. and again, putin needs to be held to account. this can never happen again. >> russian forces are fired on an apartment building in kyiv today, in the center of the city, hitting a training base also around 15 miles from the border over the weekend. if we don't stop russia now, what do you fear could happen? >> well, i think that we need to -- we need to make sure that russia is not successful in ukraine. personally, i believe that ukraine -- that there is no path to a clear cut victory in ukraine for russia because the ukrainian people will continue to resist. you've seen how they are putting up, you know, the fight of their lives right now, because this is about their homeland, it is about their families.

and i think that that will continue, even if the russians are able to dominate militarily, there will be resistance. there will be, you know, guerilla action, civil disobedience. i think russian commanders are going to be very frightened as they pursue an occupation in ukraine, if that is what eventually happens. but i think at the end of the day, the ukrainians will be victorious because that has been the history all along. >> but the population, so many are going to be exiled, they're going to be refugees, displaced people and the cultural heritage, the churches, the museums, the buildings, the whole historical heritage of ukraine could be destroyed, as syria has been. >> well, i hope that doesn't happen, i hope that the

ukrainian people can stop this mad destruction, and i hope that we will continue to review -- we've done a lot already to provide support for ukraine but i hope that we will continue to review what forms of assistance the u.s. can provide, as well as the rest of the west, to ukraine to continue to fight back. that is absolutely essential, because if -- while nobody wants to push putin over the edge, we also can't let him set the terms of this war. he is the aggressor here. he invaded ukraine. and frankly, isn't even acknowledging that there's a war. the russian people, if they listen to government tv, they don't even know that. and so, we can't let him set the debate. because what we know from history, you know, whether it's syria, georgia in 2008, ukraine

in 2014, ukraine again in 2022, if putin isn't stopped, he will continue. that has been the history, and we need to make sure that he is stopped. >> and so, would you -- i think you would support the jets, no fly zone, tell me in your words what steps should we be taking? >> honestly, i would leave that to military experts. but i think we need to be stronger and perhaps more creative in our approaches, because this is a challenging situation. and the future of ukraine is on the line, but perhaps even further down the line, as you indicated, putin has made no bones about the fact that he wants to reconstruct the russian empire, the soviet union, however you want to look at it, and he wants to destroy the

international rules based order, an order that has brought unparalleled prosperity, freedom and security since world war ii. >> now, lessons from the edge, a wonderful book, spans your career of 33 years in the foreign service, your childhood, of course. but the state department was so hollowed out during the trump administration, a lot of people left after you were impacted because they were so outraged by it. talk to me about donald trump but also mike pompeo, who clearly has ambitions to run himself in 2024, what about the character of the man who led the state department? >> well, secretary pompeo came in promising swagger to the state department, not usually a term associated with diplomacy.

but i think people in the career foreign service welcomed him in part because his predecessor had been a bit of a disaster. we welcomed his arrival and hoped that he would, in fact, help to rebuild not only the core of the state department but also resource the department accordingly. none of that happened. >> and what is your concern about the state department now? it's being reinvigorated, but how much has the u.s. lost by all of these veterans leaving the government? including yourself, of course. >> i think any time -- any time you have a hollowing out of an institution, it takes years to rebuild. so i think we're in the beginning of that process. we need the resources, we need the personnel, we need political -- political cover to

do our jobs and to do them in the way that we -- that makes us most effective. we also need to look at the challenges of this century. and modernize how we do our work. so there are a lot of challenges ahead but i think the state department can become that strong diplomatic force again. >> and and your thoughts about volodymyr zelenskyy and the way he's leading the nation now? >> it's incredible. it's really inspiring. the way he has rallied his -- his countrymen and inspired the world, it's -- the man has met his moment, he is a hero. >> the book is "lessons from the edge" thank you so much for writing it. you pay tribute to your parents, who were russian immigrants and teachers, and they would be so proud. >> thank you very much. >> thank you.

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in recent weeks. his colleague in the field described what happened while being treated at a nearby hospital. >> we crossed the checkpoint and they start shooting at us. so the driver turned around and they kept shooting. there's two of us, my friend is brent renaud and he's been shot and left behind. >> renaud a 50-year-old documentary film maker seen here won a peabody award in 2014 along with his brother craig for "last chance high" a documentary about chicago students striving for a better future. joining me now helene cooper and peter baker. peter, you've reported from war zones in the past, the danger is always there. you were in chechnya, i believe. this comes as a shock. i want to read for you something that was said at the united

nations by the ambassador. we regret any people who die in conflict but i want to make two points first he wasn't a journalist said the u.n. ambassador from russia, there's information circulating that the other part of his actions were not actually journalistic activity, it's film making and that's open access, that's information. i just want to put that on the record. >> yeah. >> a media critic, the u.n. ambassador from russia. >> i never had the great honor of meeting brent renaud, but he made a point of his courageous work long before ukraine. i think the sad thing here is he's the first foreign journalist to die in this conflict but if history teaches us anything, he will not be the last. of course, he's a journalist, film making is a form of journalism, it's bringing home truth to the world.

truth the russians clearly don't want to have out there. the russians shutdown their own independent media, made it a crime punishable by 15 years in prison to use the word war to describe the war. i think their version of media criticism should be remembered in that context. you're right, i've been in war zones a long time ago. helene i know has. ask her about being run over by a tank. but our colleagues there now, the ones on the ground, they're taking their lives in their hands every day, every hour, there's no safe place in a war zone and they're doing it to bring home truth. i think about this a lot andrea because in the last two years americans have been bombarded about messages of enemies of the people, fake news, the maligning of the media and there are the people on the ground, risking their lives, to bring truth home. i think that brent renaud situation reminds us of how courageous and important that work really is.

>> you know, and the work that many of our friends and colleagues did in syria and in iraq and afghanistan. richard engel and our colleagues right now in ukraine. and helene, a lot of journalists, myself included, thought being in lviv, western ukraine was, quote, relatively safe but from a cruise missile attack, the attack that killed 35 people in that military base, 11 miles from the border of poland. there is no safe place in ukraine. >> no, there isn't, andrea. and i would like to take one -- another -- peter did a good job of knocking down russia's u.n. ambassador's ridiculous statement but he also misquotes the new york times because they did not say that brent renaud was not a journalist. we said that he actually was --

once worked for "the new york times" and was not on particular assignment in ukraine for "the new york times" he was actually there for time magazine. so in the world of russian misinformation, this one is a doozy. you know, this is sort of the horrifying and sad part of reporting and covering war zones. we all have, andrea, you've been in war zones we have our colleagues we're worried about in ukraine, all over the country, i know you feel the same way. it's just the reality of covering, bringing these stories of what's happening and what's happening on the civilian front, to the people of ukraine, back to an american audience. there's a -- or to a global audience. the world needs to see what is happening. that vladimir putin is certainly at war with journalism since he shut down all these media outlets in russia and the

russian people are not, at this moment, seeing what's happening in ukraine, but the world is. and that is thanks to these very courageous colleagues of ours who are on the ground there, putting their own lives on the line to make sure that history has a record of what's happening. >> indeed. and, you know, we never want to be part of the story, we want the civilians, the soldiers, the troops, peter, to be the story that we're covering, but the tragedy here is that brent renaud became part of the story, and others are -- are in danger every moment of every day. peter, on a related subject, the president, according to nbc's carol lee and our colleagues at the white house, is considering a trip to the nato border states, to poland, romania, where the vice president has just returned, maybe brussels.

i don't know whether you think that would be a valuable, you know, trip right now, especially after this breach with poland over the migs. >> i think it would be a big symbol to see the american president there on the ground in eastern europe, would be an important statement about american resolve and american commitment to its eastern european nato ally, like poland, romania, that feel threatened by what's happening right now. the presence of an american president always makes a difference, sends a statement to the world and i think that would be a big deal if he decided to do that. >> peter, thank you so much. and helene, and to all of you, stay for the next segment, please. because it's about a woman in kyiv staying put to take care of her mother. giving her firsthand account to "today".com of what it is like to live inside the war zone. zo.

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we were out with my dad, and tried to buy something to eat, but, you know, food of first need, not enough. a lot of chips, nuts, salt nuts and all that. i'm okay. last night was really quiet in kyiv. and that quiet all around me made me more nervous. more stressed, because you don't know when will be the attack. they shelling civilian. they shelling kindergartens, i can't even believe that human can do that to other human. outside kyiv, it's really hell

on earth. when i saw photos of killed family, now i think more safer to stay in kyiv. hi, it's many e. i'm okay. today was rather loud bomb bomb. even my house shaked. hi. it's me. i'm okay. last night i heard aircraft so close that i was really scared. that i had no time to go anywhere to bomb shelter. it was the most scary moment from the beginning of this war. i don't want to be a refugee. i didn't do anything bad. and when i read about each

death, how they killed some ukrainians. you know, it's like losing part of me, because we're all one nation. we all stand together. it's unbelievable that months ago, i celebrated my birthday with my friends here in kyiv in part of the bars, the biggest dream now is to see the church here in kyiv and drink wine with friends. >> joining us now is the reporter who's been receiving those daily check ins. danielle, it's just incredibly moving. you've been in daily contact with larissa since february 27th. did you receive any kind of voice message from her today? >> hi, andrea, thank you so much for having me.

yes, i did. per usual, about 2:00 or 3:00, i had my daily voice mail. i promised her last night that i would take video of the nbc "nightly news" coverage. so i sent that to her right away. this morning she responded with hearts that were blue and yellow and then her voice mail update that she is -- as she says always, hi, i'm okay. and then she told me that she's scared, that the bombing was more intense than previous nights, but they're staying put. she also shared with me, pictures of the church outside that she says when this is all over her and i will get together and have wine and celebrate and embrace in the free streets of ukraine. >> how did you first come across her story? >> so that's a wonderful question, actually. for today.com parents i have been following the war since the

beginning and part of my coverage was interviewing ukraine americans here who had family members and friends overseas. once i spoke with them and published that story and went back and asked them if they knew of anybody who was still in kyiv or in ukraine who would want to speak with me and share their story, and that is how i came across larissa. i've been speaking with her since february 27th, as you mentioned. and she has been extremely candid. our initial conversations were just text messages, then she started sending me those voice mail messages. at first they were very, very brief. but over time they've gotten longer and she said at one point i think i'm going to keep doing this, because i want to remember what this was like. i want to remember what myself and my family and community is going through, what ukrainians are experiencing. so it's become a journal of sorts for her. and now for the world to see exactly what this assault is doing to people in ukraine. >> danielle, it's incredibly

moving, and it is so -- it's so graphically illustrative of what people are going through and such a personal -- very deeply personal way. and honest way about her fears, and it just incredibly well done. i think the imagery, the pictures your editor, whoever put it together for today.com and for you, thank you from all of us. >> thank you very much. and for sharing her story and her voice. larissa is the strongest person i know. it's an honor to hear from her every day and i hope she stays safe. >> we pray she will. thank you. and far from the homeland how ukrainian and russian americans are reacting to the war and how russian businesses are facing backlash as well. first opera singers in the streets of lviv sunday to sing the ukrainian national anthem.

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5,000 miles away their relatives are at war, but here in the u.s. ukrainian and russian residents are united in their opposition to the russian invasion on ukraine according to "usa today" suffolk university polls. joining us is susan page. this is really interesting in your poll. 80% of russians living in the u.s. are against the war and we're seeing similar numbers from ukrainians. i guess it's sort of self-selecting in that people who would leave russia or leave ukraine are coming to america for reasons that do involve politics and the conditions back home. >> that's true for i'm sure for some of the u.s. residents with russian heritage whom we interviewed, but i have to say we were surprised by these numbers. almost nine out of ten russian

americans oppose the invasion and three out of four want it to fail and three out of fourth have family members fighting in ukraine. so do half of the ukrainian americans. so you can see the real depth of this war touching the lives of people in both ukraine and russia. >> and we're seeing that russian restaurants are unfairly being boycotted, being harassed, sometimes vandalized, sometimes cancelled reservations, hate mail. how can we persuade americans to disassociate russian americans living here from vladimir putin. many left as ex-pats because of what's happened in russia over these decades. >> and some of russian restaurants are owned by ukrainians. what we found in a survey was

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attacks on ukraine move west. and president zelenskyy prepares to deliver a joint address to congress this week as a bipartisan group of lawmakers push the white house for more action, including the transfer of fighters jets to ukraine. plus, the tragic scenes in kyiv amid more deadly air strikes as food, water and medicine are all running out. i'll speak with ukraine's youngest member of parliament and who is staying in the capital city to fight coming up. welcome to "meet the press daily." i'm garrett haake in for chuck todd. the intense fighting moves